#flame chaser expys
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My children are back
I am genuinely about to start playing starrail again just for my beloved children
In order I think it goes:
Aponia
Griseo (? my best guess. She looks a lot like Senadina though.)
Su
Rin (you can’t see her cuz i accidentally cut her out of my screenshots, whoops)
Kalpas (?)
Pardofelis
Mobius (i say this because of the headpiece)
Kevin
Sakura (? i only think this because of the hair)
? i can’t tell who this one is
Elysia obviously
#honkai starrail#2.7 honkai starrail#flame chasers#flame-chasers#flame chaser expys#starrail expy#honkai expy#WHERES VILL-V#I WANT TO SEE MY BEAUTIFUL WIFE AGAIN
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Haven't really played HSR since Robin's first banner but damn they really just dropped all the flame-chasers on us huh
#i actually saw the intro posts on insta before watching the livestream and was like 'huh. is that kevin'#amphoreus is gonna be super exciting it seems!#kinda wanna see if i can pin-point whos the expy/equivalent to who but#1) im like suuuuper behind on the story in hi3 (ive met kevin tho) so most of my info on the flame-chasers#is kinda scattered#and 2) not all the chrysos heir members have been shown properly#some of the members are easy to connect tho#like phainon-kevin & cipher-pardofelis#oh & cerydra-elysia obviously#i can speculate on the others but those are the only ones im like 100% sure on#honkai star rail#hsr#honkai impact 3rd#hi3#< mostly bc of the rambling in the tags tbh#i need to catch up man#in both hsr & hi3#xander rambles
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THAT ISNT A KE🅱️IN LOOK ALIKE THAT IS KE🅱️IN AAAAAA
13 heroes including Elysia, the journey of the flame chase and the mission of deliverance. Yup this is the Elysian realm arc AND IM HERE FOR IT
I'd say ena was the god who looked over amphoreus and built it up to prosper, the eye was shown multiple times, when Sunday joins the AE he'd be reality checked again and Ena's worlds have all perished/fell apart eventually.
The eye closing probably was Ena's fall?
But the black sun represents IX. If they're flame chasers fighting something from beyond, that would be a honkai variant like what happened in Izumo I suppose. And Izumo was taking over by IX. Whether IX brings forth the honkai or they come along to witness the death of the world after the honkai already attacked is still a mystery, but at least it could be the case in amphoreus. It would explain how -just like izumo- this world's existence is basically wiped out of the map and can't be seen by anything else except from the remembrance.
This world would then be a better, hopeful iteration to what happened to Izumo, and happy ending to the flame chasers (HOPEFULLY!! Altho, I personally want real deaths this time)
Now that we have alt Kevin, and the Kevin who failed to save Izumo, I hope bro can finally have a good life, and it would be nice if we dragged Acheron here lol
Reminder that Izumo ALSO had flame chasers.
I was thinking that golden blood is a characteristic of destruction too, but it's the heroes who fused this golden ichor into their bodies. So I'd say it doesn't mean something gloomy unless taking on the power of destruction leads up to severe side effects eventually (like how the surgery in hi3 led to some having uh complications)
Also, Elysia said "this is different than before, it's a romantic story" HMMMM SUS unless she means the history of amphoreus, this is a throwback at hi3
Imo the characters might be loosely based on the flame chasers
I mean we got a su look alike (was said to have knowledge) , I'd argue that aglaea is inspired from aponia if she wasn't nuts (the prophecy spoke to her, and she's guided by destiny)
a guy that feels like kalpas, pardo but more confident, AND BARBARA FROM GENSHIN IMPACT
Real ke🅱️in
STILL WAITING FOR MY EDEN HOYO
Forgot to mention that I'm glad we've stepped back from the stellarons for a while, since they don't exist at every single corner in the world. Means no stellaron hunters BUT THAT ONLY MEANS ENOUGH TIME FOR ELIO TO APPEAR
My dreams of diamond being Kevin are broken tho but fine I'll take any ke🅱️in 😔
#it's best that hoyo doesn't make EVERYONE into expys#i love the of flame chasers but come on#new faces i want new ppl to attach to#it would feel lazy if it's just a complete retelling of their story but in a different game#honkai star rail#hsr#star rail#hsr theory#hsr thoughts#yes i came back just for this pv#life was too busy and i need to study as we speak but NAH#my last braincells were burned on this
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ohhh the eyepatch guy looks like the ice nihility unit from the leaks...
#gam3 bo1 posting#i need him playable or i'll die i really will#i can't handle another baizhu or screwllum he needs to be playable SOON#well not too soon since i'll be completely dry after sunday#but i need to keep my status as a nihility main#i'm so fucking stupid i really thought i was going to be safe on amorpheus because i don't like the whole greek mythology aesthetic#dumb fucking idiot just look at you you're so dumb#also people being excited for the flame chaser expies and i'm sitting here like 🥰 wow 🤗 i sure know the hi3 lore and who they are
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Chrysos Heirs
people who play both hi3 and hsr are WINNING rn
anyway. i've determined likely flamechaser parallels for a majority of the chrysos heirs. most of them do not actually look like their flamechaser counterparts, which makes me think they're not direct expies but merely parallels.
I also sprinkled some minor analysis of what little lore we have on these guys. Amphoreus is massively inspired by greek mythology.
watch this before reading!
Aglaea = Eden (both associated with gold)
Eden owned the Elysian Realm previously, but at that time it was called the Golden Courtyard
Eden is also called the Bearer of the Gold Signet
Aglaea is called the Goldweaver
You're not going to believe this-- Aglaea is named after the Charis called Aglaea.
The mythological Aglaea basically runs errands for Aphrodite, which would explain why HSR Aglaea bears the Coreflame of Romance.
HSR Aglaea is from the city of Okhema. In greek thought (plato I think?), Okhema is an intermediary between the body and the soul. I did as much research as I could and the best I could figure out is "it carries the soul through rebirth". SORRY IF THAT'S WRONG-
HSR Aglaea has the "divine authority of mnestia". After lots of research, I think mnestia can be loosely translated to Remembrance, so perhaps that's the Amphorean way of saying she's a pathstrider of Remembrance?
Aglaea's drip marketing references the myth of Prometheus, where Prometheus stole fire from the gods and returned/gave it to humanity.
Tribbie = Vill-V (multiple 'selves')
Tribbie is called the "three-faced messenger"
We see Tribbie adopt multiple personas in the video. She can even take multiple forms at once
Vill-V has partitioned her personality into 8 different segments
Anaxa = Su (both associated with knowledge/enlightenment)
Anaxa is said to have "enough knowledge to refute faith, and to stir up a torrent capable of slaying gods."
Su is called the Enlightened of Bodhi, Enlightened One, and other similar titles.
These two have lots of physical similarity
Anaxa's namesake has some interesting connections with Nous actually
Hyacine = Griseo (both Asleep)
In the video, when Hyacine is on-screen it says "let the sky become the slumbering cot from which she wakes".
Due to the 8th Honkai Eruption, Griseo fell into a deep sleep.
Could be named after Hyacinthus
Mydei = Kalpas (fire in battle)
In the video, Mydei is seen in a post-battle poise surrounded by fire.
Kalpas is constantly surrounded by fire during battle.
Both characters constantly seek out fighting/strife.
Mydei is likely related to the greek god Deimos
One of the unnamed people has a mask too though, but these guys are too similar in aesthetic and personality
Cipher = Pardofelis (...come on.)
Cat girls.
Same eye and hair color
Castorice = Aponia? (butterfly theming)
Castorice is pictured with butterflies both in the video and in the twitter art. These butterflies look highly similar to the butterfly motif in Aponia's design
Aponia is very strongly associated with butterflies. Her dress is patterned like one and she has butterfly wings in her ult
Both seem to have devastating levels of power
IDK about the greek origins for this one. Castor? Kratos (who is actually a child of the Styx)?
Phainon = Kevin (deliverance)
Yeah they're both related to deliverance. They literally outright said deliverance in the video, and Kevin bears the Deliverance Signet.
Also they look EXACTLY THE SAME
Also both seem to be the 'leader'
In mythology, Phainon is the star of Cronus/Saturn (cuz they thought saturn was a star)
Cyrene = Elysia (...COME ON.)
They look identical and have almost the exact same personality
i have yet to figure out the two unnamed ones, Hysilens, and Cerydra. nor can i find their name origins... the closest i found, after ages of digging, is this for Hysilens
the remaining flame-chasers are Kosma, Sakura, Fu Hua, and Mobius. only one of the unknown people seems to be male ("unknown 2"), so that one's probably Kosma.
And yeah that's the culmination of me losing my mind for the past 6 hours. lucky you, you didn't have to watch me try and fail to decipher what the 12 titans might be connected to. (greek titans, 12 olympians, and HSR aeons all didn't line up easily waaaaaa)
here's the failed attempt to figure out the aeons if anyone else gets ideas from this
OK thanks for reading. normally I post my loredumps in discord servers with my friends. this is my first time posting it anywhere abfiushdliueh
#hsr#hsr lore#coreflame#chrysos heir#i need to do my work#but this has been on my mind all day#and i can't rest until i write this out#hsr aglaea#hsr mydei#hsr phainon#hsr castorice#hsr anaxa#hsr tribbie#hsr cyrene#hsr amphoreus
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HOLYFUCKINGHAIRNWOW WTFFFFF ELYSIA HELLO WTF MY WIFE MY WIFE HELLOOOOOO???? WTFF SHE'S ALIVE AND WELL SHE'S FUCKING ALIVE AND WELL I'M GONNA CRY I LOVE HSR SO MUCH
SHE FINALLY HAS AN ENG VA TOO IT SOUNDS PERFECT I'M GONNA CRY SHE'S REAL AND ALIVE
"It will be a romantic story like none that has come before-" YES YES YES YEE PLEASE PLEASE I'M ON MY KNEE STAY ALIVE IN JUST ONE UNIVERSE ONE FUCKING UNIVERSE. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE. I NEED YOU MY BELOVED. I'M SORRY KAFKA BUT IF YOU DO NOT GET YOUR ASS HOME SHE IS GOING STRAIGHT TO NUMBER 1 IDGAFFFFFF (Lies, Kafka still solos but I love Elysia equally, she's my #1 in hi3) 😭😭
AND KEVIN WTFFFF KEVIN EXPY I'M CALLING ITTTTT
Flame chasers comeback FRR. But I'm scared... Himeko please stay alive too hahahahahahahah....
Sorry for spamming, this is HUGE news. I'M SO FUCKINF MOTIVATED TO WRITE NOW I CANNOT. ELYSIA IS FUCKINF BACK WTCKAOQJQKEBE
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SOPHIE SOPHIE SOPHIE OH MY GOD HAVE YOU SEEN HSR'S TRAILER FOR AMORPHEUS‼️‼️ FLAME CHASER EXPYS ARE HERE WE ARE SO BACK‼️‼️‼️
IRYTH IRYTH IYRTH I HAVE AND OHHDHSHHDH WHEN I TELL U I WAS WHISPER SCREAMING IN MY UNI LIBRARY WHEN THE AMORPHEUS TRAILER WAS PLAYING AND TRYING SO SO HARD NOT TO JUST SHOUT WHEN I SAW THE FLAMECHASERS AND KEVIN MY BELOVED AND ELYSIA MY BELOVED OHHHHHHHEHEHDHHDJSJSJKA
#omg a convo !?#mutuals !!#may the stars guide you <3#FCUK WHY DID THEY HAVE TO BE SHOWN RIGHT AFTER SUNDAY I HATE IT HERE#SUNDAY SUNDAY PLSPSLPSLSPSLSPS HAVE MERCY AND BE KIND TO ME I NEED TO FINALLY HAVE KEVIN AND SU AND KALPAS PLSPSLPSSLPSLSP#when i get abck home im gonna be rewatching the trailer again and again and analysing it until i get sick of it#<- it wont happen. i could never get sick of the flamechasers.
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i wasnt planning on watching the 2.7 livestream but i knew they were gonna drop the teaser for the next planet, amphoreus. i was already looking to going back to hsr because ive seen rumors that amphoreus was going to be greek myth inspired. i did not actually expect they would bring back the 13 flame chasers. they used too many specific keywords for it not to be the flame chasers, “deliverance” during phainons section (kevin expy) and “the path of the flame chase” during the end section of the teaser. seeing cyrene i was hit by visions of the past. it was like seeing my dead wife alive.
elysia. *it is elysia*. cyrene is 100% an elysia expy. listening to cyrenes jp voice confirmed it for me. i recognize that voice anywhere. its marina inoue.
it is so over for me.
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The flame chaser expys in amphoreus omg
Kevin
Pardo
AND MY WIFE ELYSIA OMG
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in my summoning circle waiting for all the flame-chasers to appear in star rail, no matter if it's like Welt or just expies. i just need Elysia there so bad, hoyo pls
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Any permutation of "March is connected to elysia" misses the primary function of elysia's writing which is that she's there to look pretty and be waifu bait elysia is a character who is the "heart" of the previous era, hence why she's the signet of ego. She's the emotional core who's death further emphasizes the loss that everyone who remembers her feels.
March is about the future!!! FX's quest being a memokeeper telling March to keep moving forward and not to dwell on things that happened before obviously is gonna be expounded upon later but I feel like it's a bit insane ppl behavior to argue that March being nice and having pink hair makes her an ely expy.
Firefly being a proxy for kalpas is just funny as shit. No notes. Nothing I even wanna dissect there it's just obviously a comparison made by someone who doesn't have category 5 derangements abt the flame chasers writing
The marchfly kalpely allegations were the funniest thing to come out of penacony just for how wrong they were
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Okay now that you've fallen into the Alhaitham hole somewhat, lemme show you the origin.
Su my beloved part of the Flame Chasers, Kevin's bestie, a doctor/scientist and would still be one if Honkai hadn't fucked the world up, a very pretty man he even got mistaken as a lady once
The man who I very much wanted to be the Sumeru Archon or at least the former when news of a Su expy would be in the game, that is until hyv nuked the whole thing by making the dendro archon female thus dashing my hopes 💀💀
He even made a bubble universe named Seed of Sumeru how can I not want him as the dendro archon ajshdjdgdjs
IT'S A SETUP HAHAHAHA
OH YEAH SU!! *eyeing the Kevin* I heard about him because of the design rumors yes, and what?! Sumeru?! Okay okay I have this FEELING that he actually was planned to be the Dendro archon (wasn't there like mentions of the dendro archon being male before until they changed it up?) But they vetoed it? Because because
What if Alhaitham is actually related to Su? Or at least, in some sense, because have you seen his design?! He's too futuristic! He wears headphones permanently with a wire that sticks up to his as- there's that crystal literally imbedded into his chest! what does that mean?! What does that imply!?
There's still a whole lot to unpack about Alhaitham which we wouldn't really know until he gets released next year, but there's definitely a lot of things going on with this man besides just Akademiya lunatic with big booba, and I wonder if he would have unsaid connections to Su
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i’ve got flame chaser brain rn and HHHFIFIFOOKF I WAN MORE FLAME CHASER EXPIES
WE GOT SU AS AL-HAITHAM SO NOW I WANT MY BOY KALPASS
AND KEVIN
AND MFING ELYSIA
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Weibo games award popular vote for 2024 (Female version, ongoing)
This ranking can change later on as it's not the final result yet
HELLOOOO SHALOM??? LMFAOOOO MY GLORIOUS QUEEN BEING SO HIGH UP MAKES ME SO HAPPY. WELL DESERVED 🫶🫶🫶🫶
ROBIN, LANGLEY MY LOVE & FURINA MWAH.
I'm low-key shocked Kafka is up there considering her year long absence with only the occasional screen time outside game but it's almost not a shock looking at the china HSR concert. 😭 LEGEND NEVER DIE, MY QUEEN STAYS ON TOP FR.
Kafka comes back when huh hoyo, I know everyone will lose it when she comes back. Like look at the Elysia and Kevin expy impact on the Honkai fandom. They really brought back all of the hi3rd fandom back from the ashes. #1 flame chaser glazer, yes i will sneak them in my post every time🙏
#erise podcast#kafka hsr#kafka honkai star rail#shalom#shalom ptn#path to nowhere#langley#langley ptn#ptn#genshin#genshin impact#furina#hsr#honkai star rail#robin hsr
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SORRY FOR ALL THE ASKS BUT I can't get over how in HI3, the Flame Chasers sacrificed everything to save humanity only for them to (more or less) fail and go unremembered by humanity with the exception of Kevin (and Mei, after she entered the Elysian Realm)... And how their expys now appear to be the main cast in the HSR story arc revolving around 'Remembrance'... Oh Amphoreus is gonna DESTROY ME I CAN ALREADY FEEL IT
ITS FINE IM SUPER EXCITED TOO 😭😭
and no bc…
what if i. died. what then. what.
they did everything and fought for the love and greater good of humanity only to go largely forgotten, and istg if we see a repeat of that in amphoreus ESPECIALLY with the theme of remembrance being the most pronounced then i think i will never be able to recover….
and apparently the storywriter for amphoreus is the same one who did the kolosten, durandal, and anti entropy arcs in hi3 🫠🫠🫠 its so over
#omg a convo !?#mutuals !!#may the stars guide you <3#iryth…. i cant do this….#amphoreus is going to be the end for me#IMAGINE THEY PULL AN ELYSIAN REALM TYPE THING BUT INSTEAD OF RUAN MEI WHO REMEMBERS ITS US THE TRAILBLAZER 😭😭😭#also waiting for that fu hua drop still 🧍♀️ praying for marshall hua AND fc fu hua 🙏🙏
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