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People on TikTok coming into the Beetlejuice fandom since the new movie came out: OMG WHY ARE PEOPLE SHIPPING BEETLEJUICE AND LYDIA NOW?! WHAT A BUNCH OF FREAKS!
Me, who’s been in the fandom since 1999:
#first it was after the musical now this#it’s like freaking clockwork#beetlejuice#lydia deetz#beetlejuice movie#beetlejuice beetlejuice#beetlejuice 2#beetz#beetlebabes#beetlejuice fandom#fandom discourse#don’t take this too seriously
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spoilers? i don't even know what is or isn't a spoiler anymore.
i like to imagine this is what had to be happening at ithaca during the events between little wolf/we'll be fine and get in the water
#like as poseidon said#poseidon: i've been waiting for this moment#do you think the people of ithaca just looked out from their coast one day and saw him waiting#people of ithaca: whose horse is that?#they were scared at first#but after a few years no one batted an eyelid#visitors/tradesmen coming to to ithaca: uhhh you realise the god of the sea is just chilling just outside your shores right?#people of ithaca: yeah- but he's been there for years now. at least it's keeping the pirates away *shrugs*#epic the musical#epic the vengeance saga#poseidon epic#telemachus epic the musical#epic the musical spoilers#epic the vengeance saga spoilers
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coffee cheetos chicken
#jerma985 fanart#jercula#jerma985#ster#jerma#sterlovesfood#can his bitch ass get a fanbase. or a tag that works. thanks#my favorites :) also I’m in Vegas RIGHT NOW and I’m not at the nyp show… the world works in mysterious ways#i was at wwwy fest and it was so much fun :) my first music thing ever and it was so cool and it was w my best friends one of which is our#first irl meet up after over 6 yrs:D no one cares I just wanna say it whatever anywyas ily all have a good day jerma was so fine last night#also I hate how this looks but I need to post jerma jerma jerma my autism yay ok bye
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Odysseus with his head in his wife's lap, happily not paying attention to anything, humming one of athenas song and carving something
Some random guy: your majesty----
Odysseus: not bothering to sit up: whatever my wife decided is fine.
#the odyssey#epic the musical#Odysseus#Penelope#Odypen#Post-canon my beloved#Odysseus tried to hold court exactly one time before he 1. Realized he's very out of date with everything and#2. Remembered that these meetings sucked so much#Odysseus then quickly climbed into his wife's lap and was like penelopes been ruling for 20 years she's got this#The first time someone tried to insist that it wasn't acceptable for penelope to answer ody nearly killed the guy#Nobody tried to force the issue after that#The only time odysseus sits up to contribute is to be like 'no no we can take that route now I killed the monster that lived there years ag#This is not to say he isn't listening and paying attention! He is! He's just scoping everybody's out#Noticing who's more pushy when they're trying to deal with penelope than they are with him#He's got twenty years of politics to catch up on! And he's going to be sneaky about it#Odysseus post return gaining a reputation for being uninvolved and uncaring only to pull the rug out from underneither the other person#Penelope is a okay with this for many many reasons#First off her system is one of beauty and the fact that her husband didn't spend all her hard work to take back over the second he came bac#Is rare and penelope is grateful everyday for who she married#Second she gets to show off look at how well she did odysseus look at how clever she is ody ody watch as I scam these people isn't that hot#(It is and yes of course odysseus was watching)#Penelope enjoying how odysseus lays out over her like a lazy lion#It scratches her possessive side to show him off like this and she gets to play with his hair#Telemachus attending some of these meetings to learn (tm) and spending the whole time deeply embarrassed#Odypen being 🥰🤝 rat bastards in love
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Nothing will ever top my first experience watching The Guy Who Didn’t Like Musicals. Watching that show with no context but still expecting there to be a happy ending because of course it would have a happy ending it’s starkid and then to slowly realize during inevitable that, no, they lost. We lost. There is no happy ending. There could never be a happy ending. Unparalleled.
#starkid#the guy who didn't like musicals#tgwdlm#musicals#paul matthews#I couldn’t watch this show for two years after my first watch#I was so angry and confused and betrayed#but now I can accept it as the masterpiece it is#what an iconic show
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(check the tags for more and also the tag for other fics in the story!)
athena, scowling as she gets bullied into marrying the people she pined over for the last 1000 years, suddenly realising something: wait a minute
odysseus: what?
athena, frozen: wait a damn minute you know what this gives me rights to do
penelope, also realising: oh fuck yes
odysseus: I don't like the sound of whatever's happening here what are you two fucking talking about?
athena, grabbing the marriage wine and tossing it back, then kissing her new wife and husband and handing penelope a spear as she picks up a mace: we'll be back shortly, you can start celebrations without us.
penelope: do u have anything that can start a fire
athena, pulling out an old contract and scanning it before throwing it over her shoulder: yes. are you scared of heights or can we fly.
penelope: fucking bring it I've waited years for this moment
zeus: where are they going
hermes, picking up the contract: they're going to... Ogygia? Oh fucking shit they're going to fucking kill Calypso- hey, hello, WAIT-
#odysseus disappears midway because athena plants one on him so hard his soul evaporates#(strategic to make him stop from coming after them and also from passion she forgot to hold back for once)#(and also shes maybe possibly in love and cant wait to get vengeance on Calypsos bitch ass who hurt him so much for so long)#penelope has had to deal with calypos afteraffects for literally the rest of their lives. from flashbacks to odysseus inconsolably crying#at her feet for forgiveness some days even though shes always said frim the first moment that it wasnt his fault#the rest of the gods have to chase them down to prevent them from eternally torturing calypso (goddesses cant die <3)#athenas blazing mad and sick with guilt and horror. she couldn't attack before because it would be seen as an attack from olympus#but as a wife! as two wifes! no political implications there no holds barred calypso gets her ass BEAT#but also pls imagine them chasing her and gods chasing them round and round the island while screaming#odysseus wavered like 17 times on whether to ask hermes for a lift there or not but goes in the end#their honeymoon in truth ends up being on ogygia#athena lovingly and seductively teaching penelope how to fillet a person both of them covered in ichor#odysseus with a hand over his mouth blushing grinning tears in eyes torn between turned on and terrified to be back and crying coz they lov#him that much.#((he goes to her just before they leave in the cave she used to drag him to. she can barely hold herself up and hes shaking to approach))#((but he's stronger now. settled and satisfied and content. he kneels by her and sets down bandages next to her.))#((i told you i was married he says. and because his truest weapon is his tongue- if youd just listened i wouldve found us both a way out))#she sobs and he leaves. the scars will never fade fully but he feels lighter as he steps out into the sun where athene and pen are waiting.#bloodsoaked and being shouted at by hera but smiling at him widely and gleefully as he approaches. takes a hand each and presses him btwn.#he squeezes back with a smile and leans into them. his beautiful horrifying wives#odypenath#odypenetha#odysseus#penelope#athena#odypen#odyath#penath#epic the musical#love in paradise
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while the concept of samuel existing in maia's room as some sort of afterlife has been wonderfully and sincerely portrayed in some recent fanworks, it's also very funny to me because I imagine the first few moments of samuel being in the room going something like
#on a less funny note#go check out its-short-for-jackalope's really cool art for this concept#as well as snarky-wallflower's and midnightnautilus' fics about it#their art and fics are incredible!#pulp musicals#samuel stratford#maia pulp musicals#m.a.i.a. pulp musicals#<- not entirely sure how to tag her#the searcher in the shadows#pulp musicals spoilers#the searcher in the shadows spoilers#tsits spoilers#pulp 4 spoilers#my art#also a side note about the “grappling with his own demise” part#i. definitely think he had accepted his own death in samuel and the sun (reprise)#but i would imagine the first few moments after it occurring would be. quite disorienting. hence him being understandably shaken#(at least at first)#have now made myself sad. oh dear
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im like 90% convinced that the Doctor is of the same species that the Toymaker and Maestro are
#doctor who#doctor who spoilers#they can hear the music of the show itself#the fourth wall breaks#they were found by a portal that could've led from anywhere#in a season where theyre outright saying EVERYTHING IS CONNECTED#why else would we suddenly be seeing the Toymaker again#and now Maestro- his child#both of whom exhibit the same fourth wall breaking powers#this also isnt the first time#10 broke the fourth wall- thinking specifically of his staring into the camera in Family of Blood#and 12 implied he could hear the show's music when he played the intro on the guitar#the big question for me would be what is the thing the Doctor has power over#what does the Doctor personify#if Toymaker = play and Maestro = music#what does the Doctor equal?#workshopping the idea that its memory#stay tuned I may elaborate after I think this over some more
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"Ready to go on an adventure?"
(lore in tags ahem ahem)
Some more centipede Adventure Line™ art (featuring other artists Adventure Lines™ from this reblog chain!)
#(this takes place in the skip ending)#After a few thousand years skipping ahead into the future: the Adventure Line™ has grown and mutated in order to adapt to the harsh–#– environment of the hot desert.#Stanley and the Adventure Line™ meet and had a bit of a fight at first before Stanley realized he could sing to the Line™ to tame it#like a flute and a dancing snake kind of thing#so now Stanley uses a flute to play the adventure music and they go on a quest to fix the Parable#the stanley parable#the stanley parable ultra deluxe#tsp#tspud#stanley tsp#tsp stanley#mine 💗#(this is just a concept and idk if I'll actually make it canon in my au)#paraverse#narratorverse#tsp reblog chain#tsp adventure line#adventure line™#tsp au lore
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Since I’ve been lurking real deep in the Outsiders fandom lately I figured I’d share what I honestly consider my magnum opus of the last four months since I listened to the musical: a stupidly-giant mostly-accurate spreadsheet detailing what I’ve pieced together to be how old pretty much all the characters are during the plot of the book (and That was Then, This is Now because I got so hyped over Pony being in that book I had to include it), as well as what grades they would’ve been in during what (school) year (so like from September—June of a given year).
Occasionally I’ll see people bring up the age old argument of who’s the oldest/youngest of the gang, and what grade is Ponyboy supposed to be in during the plot of the book, and sometimes I see you guys talking like Darry would’ve been in school with Soda, and like you’re not entirely wrong because it’s all up to interpretation, and he could’ve been at high school with him for a year, but personally I think I could go on for a million years about Sodapop Curtis and school alone, and I’m not going to get into fights over that, but with all the little details about the book that are given to us, that’s not really possible and—whatever. And like how Ponyboy is actually the age he should be in freshman year, because everyone in his grade after being pushed up who has a late birthday would’ve just turned/would be turning 14 in freshman year, but I digress. Not the point here.
The point is, I spent eight hours about a month ago piecing this all together over the span of like three days, and I wanted to share it. I guess it’s important to note that I had to make up some birthdays that I couldn’t find mostly-confirmed somewhere online (someone PLEASE tell me how old Angela Shepard is because she’s the only one I couldn’t find an agreed-upon age for), and that I don’t live A) in or anywhere near Oklahoma or B) in the 1950s/60s, so I took a lot of liberties with when they would’ve started school and whatnot and some of that is based on personal headcanon, like the Curtises having Pony start school a year late because Soda struggled so much in kindergarten and beyond and Pony also had a late birthday and they got worried so they kept him home an extra year.
Basically please just be nice to me about this and please I’m begging you give a poor girl with a brand new teaching certification a reason to talk about how her favorite characters got through school and whatnot I could talk about this for hours clearly thanks and goodbye.
**Also please note this timeline is based on the musical taking place in 1967, but I believe the book takes place in 1965 and I was going by that version of events anyway, so if you’re using this as a reference (which is what it’s meant to be for those who need/want one), you can just subtract two years from everything I guess. It’s all up to interpretation and I’m not saying that everyone needs to agree with this and I don’t WANT everyone to agree with this, I just figured I’d share it for fun, so go nuts.**
#the outsiders#the outsiders musical#ponyboy curtis#darry curtis#sodapop curtis#dally winston#johnny cade#twobit mathews#steve randle#dallas winston#darrel curtis#curtis gang#the outsiders Broadway#the outsiders 1983#the outsiders book#if you send me asks about why I chose to put soda starting school early and how he falls through the cracks badly after I would cry#to quote a teacher I worked with last year who said this is the most loving way possible about a first grader we had:#‘he is just so learning disabled’#(he’s in second grade now and I work with his new teacher this year and we’re working toward a few diagnoses so <3)#my post
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smth smth about 'the thing that the character did that you thought was rly rly funny in the moment is actually linked to a terrible trauma that lies within said character.' or wahtever.
#jrwi show#jrwi fanart#jrwi riptide#gillion tidestrider#made this within a short span of wahtever bc i gotta go up to the mountains for my stupid gay job tonight n im trying#nnot to frrRREAAAK THE FUCK OUUTTTTTTi dont wanna work but. get that bread we fuckin shall i guess#ONWARDS TO THE FISH TORMENT!! sometimes flowers feel pain when you trim them before their blossoming. atleast i imagine so#i used to draw gillion with loooong hair tied into a big ol braid. and then it was confirmed that he had short hair when he was little.#AT FIRST I WAS SAD. but then i realized the duality of. when they were little. gill had short hair. edyn had long hair.#AND NOW THEYRE OLDER. and gillion has long hair. and edyn has short hair#both mirroring eachother. looking up to eachother. subconsciously or not. they most certainly care. and most certainly miss eachother.#GILLION ALWAYS LOVED HOW LONG HAIR LOOKs. atleast i imagine so. he hasnt cut it since he left the undersea. sure he wanted to go back home#but even at the very start. he knew he was free in some way now. free to grow out his hair. an adventure would await him before he returns.#he knew it would be a while. so he cant let this go. he cant let this sought-after hair-length get cut away from him again#not yet. not yet. i like to think he loved music too. I SAW SOMETHING INTERESTING A BIT AGO#i see alot of ppl commenting on my baby gill comics like;'i wouldFIGHT this teacher i wanna KILL EM i want them DESTROYED#all very good and nice sentiments! i LOVE the energy here! and it would be nice. to have that catharsis#but the story of young tidestrider is not a story of catharsis. it is a story of agony and being so so small and so special and also so dum#and sucking so bad. and just being a kid and doing the things that a little kid does and so many tired tired people reacting badly to it#youre supposed to be the hero that will save us. our world hangs in the balance and you are the one who tips the scales.#YOU are supposed to SAVE US!! you NEED to SAVE US! CAN YOU PLEASE STOP SQUIRMING IN YOUR STUPID CHAIR!!#you'd think that young tidestrider ought to prevail. and be tucked someplace all safe and sound.#elders gone missing and rotting in a jail. their cultists nowhere around. but theres no happy endings. not here not now.#this tale is all sorrows n woes. you may dream that justice n peace win the day. but thats not how this story goes#BIG ideas for this lil baby gillion series. if anything i make ever gets disproven im killing myself in a well as to poison a water supply
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They probably fell asleep after a game
Here's more jerejean, including the projectile squean @emry-stars-art
#soft jerejean my love#i really want to know what theyre listening to now#it's probably Jeremy's music but i still don't know what he would listen to#and they're kissing in the rain bc i thought it would be cute#sorta#its actually bc i waa thinking about the first time jean got to play in the rain#i think he used to hate the rain bc it made the nest feel even more gloomy and prison-like#but then after practice with the trojans on day it had beed raining and Jeremy started splashing in puddles#jean definitely hated it a little less after that#projectile squean from an emry live#this felt so dumb to draw but i love it so its fine#jeremy knox#jean moreau#jerejean#all for the game#aftg#aftg fanart#fan art#my art#mer au#kevin day#kefin#david wymack#abby winfield
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Okay, we all know being a demigod is a shit position. Its scary and gets you killed in really nasty ways. But I feel like being a Big Three Kid has to be the shitiest position in all the shit positions.
Like, imagine being Thalia Grace. Your dad is king of the gods, lord of the skies. Led a war to get rid of a tyrant. And the only thing you get is his scorned wife AND brother, who both try to kill you (with one technically succeeding), a drunk of a mother, and brother who you thought was dead. Oh, wait, he’s not dead! No instead he was used as an offering to appease your dad’s wife and help fight in a war and prevent mass destruction.
Or maybe you can imagine being Percy. Son of the sea god, the stormbringer, the earthshaker. You get to live with a disgusting, abusive man for around 6 years. Who smells like literal shit. All because your scent as a demigod is too strong, BECAUSE of who your father is. You see things that you aren’t supposed to see and do things that people can’t do and go years thinking something is wrong with you. That your the problem. Then you get to the one place where you’re supposed to be save. But! Here is the kicker! You’re not! Your uncles hate you and you’ve been accused of stealing a symbol of power. A series of events that will kick off a war, and guess what. You’re a center point for it. Welcome to Camp Half-Blood.
Mhm, but then there’s Hazel. Daughter Pluto, god of the underworld and riches. But that doesn’t really change anything does it? She’s still living in 1930s America, in a red state. One where confederate flags still hang if you go deep enough into the city. She go to a school where the kids are supposed to be just like her! They still don’t like her tho. She’s got no idea who your father is, only that he left her with a parting gift. Only it’s not really a gift. Sure, she can pull rubies and diamonds from the earth, all worth millions. But anyone who’s ever gonna touch it will die. She lives with her mother, a woman gone so mad with greed it kills her. And Hazel, by the way. Laying dead Alaska, inhaling oil. But it doesn’t end there! She can’t have her mother suffering for eternity, can she? The answer is no. Hazel gets to spend the next 70 years in the Fields of Asphodel. It still doesn’t end! Because when she’s brought back to life, she gets to fight in a war against giants, her sad story seemingly never ending.
Nico’s a son of one of the Big Three, one of the most ancient and most powerful. But most people look at him as something bad, something not worth taking a second glance at. Something too look away from, mostly. He’s from the 30s, spent years in a magical time casino with only his sister at his side. She doesn’t stay for long though, she dies soon after they discover their heritage. And he doesn’t remember his mother much, a name without a face. A face without a name. He survived an attempted assassination at 2, though it wouldn’t be the only time his was life was threatened. He clings to his sister, even though she’s dead. He’s the son of the god of the underworld, is he not? There had to be a way, and there is. Only she won’t talk to him, she seems more concerned with communicating with the guy who got her killed instead. She chooses rebirth, and he decides to lay it to rest. She’s not coming back, and he has a war to fight in. (He gets stuck in a jar and forcibly outed a few years later, but that’s a lot to get into for now.)
Jason Grace is a pillar of New Rome, their golden boy, their American boy. He’s a son of Jupiter, a natural born leader. He’s been at camp for as long as he can remember, he wants to be praetor soon. He’s had a rocky start, but maybe he’ll be one of the lucky ones. Retire a veteran and live a long life with Reyna in New Rome. Only that never happened. He has no idea where he is, there’s a girl holding his hand, and she’s cute but it feels wrong. They get attacked and people come in and call him a Greek demigod, familiar, yes, but still wrong. It doesn’t feel right. It doesn’t put things into perspective the way it does for Piper and Leo. He’s goes to a quest to rescue Hera, the name sounds wrong. He nearly dies but at least he remembers who he is. He spends the next 6 months trying to get back home, even though he isn’t too sure on where or what home is. He gets there, eventually, but it doesn’t stop there. He’s dragged on quests and battles and fights in the war but at least he survives it, he’s still there. Apollo needs help, he and Piper give him aid. He gets dumped. He doesn’t get to he a veteran in New Rome. Not with Reyna, not with Piper, not with anybody. He doesn’t get kids or grandkids. No, he gets shot down, another demigod buried.
You could be any one of them, really. Pick your poison, but I guarantee you won’t like any of them. Spending years trying to find a place where you belong, where you feel safe. Only for it to never come.
Percy, who, if you really look at the books, isn’t really all that well liked until he’s at least 2 years into camp. Only to then be sidelined because the courages, brave, fearless daughter of Zeus is back from the dead. Nico, the son of one of the most feared and hated gods. Who has death written all over him, who excludes it so much animals can smell it and humans can sense it, who’s been ostracized and pushed off to the side since he was 10. Hazel, who was treated like disease as soon as she stepped foot on camp soil. Who’s gone her whole life looked as something that’s cursed, that will only bring misfortune, a bad omen.
Shit positions, all of them.
#Hazel and Jason make my head spin#also jaosn and Percy#I like how they both in a way didn’t want glory or to be some hero#i don’t think Jason mentions it much but they kids and grandkids mention in BOO is very telling#Percy’s is from the musical but whatever we all know the musical is canon#and show Percy thinking something is wrong with him and that he needs a mental evaluation of some kind is#everything#I’m making that canon now#I’d love to get a Thalia book#a trilogy maybe#first book is her with her mom and Jason + Luke and Annabeth on the run#ending with her dying#2nd book takes place after her resurrection and during the the war#final book is life with the hunters#and how she found peace in a world designed for her to struggle#I feel like out of all of them big three kids she’s the only one who got her happy ending#and in the fandom the hunters have gotten the reputation of being where Rick puts characters that can’t be shipped with anyone#but I really don’t think it’s the case with her#she’s also one of the only demigods where I think her story has come to a close#like it’s done#Percy’s story is almost done too#Nico and Hazel I feel aren’t quite there yet#percy jackson#thalia grace#hazel levesque#jason grace#nico di angelo#pjo hoo toa#heroes of olympus#percy jackon and the olympians
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Wait going off the idea that Athena keeps things from her favorite people:
What does diomedes give her?
#epic the musical#The odyssey#Greek myths#Athena#Diomedes#On one hand I would love to see diomedes gifts up on the same shelf of odysseus's carvings#But on the other hand diomedes and Athena have a much more traditional mentor relationship#Verse her absolutely batshit insane relationship she has with odysseus and the love she has for the rest of the family#And diomedes prays /interacts with Athena in a much more traditional way too#So I imagine he gives her proper sacrifices instead of yeeting random wood carvings at her#Maybe this is something that happens later in life for diomedes after he's retired and founded a couple cities#He finally has time to 1. Discover what he actually likes to do and 2. For his relationship with Athena to soften into actual friendship#Diomedes (now forty): carefully placing his first actual gift (instead of sacrifice) on Athens alter#Diomedes: goddess Athena i hope this indulgence is okay. I made this for you as a gift for all the time you have spent helping me#Diomedes: now that my fighting is done i hope you will grace me with you presence from time to time. Thank you goddess for everything.#Athena: who didn't realize she was upset that her and Dios relationship never developed into friendship until this second#Athena: clutching the gift to her chest and using quick thought to scream internally#Athena: voice cracking : It's FINE#(Later Athena dragging odysseus from his bed at 3 am screaming at full volume diomedes finally gave me a gift#He's never given you a gift proof that he likes me better than you get fucked#And then disappears before odysseus can retort because she has to spend hours finding the perfect place for her gift)
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I might be killed for saying this but there is something so smart about opening your (arguably worst) new album with "this isn't rock and roll, this is music for children"
#joker out#was this on purpose? God i hope so uts hilarious#it has sass it has BITE#its camp idc#i came with zero expectations for this album then I was hit in the face with an actually very good and fun song basically calling me a Kid#amazing#there is something so fun and honestly cool about eurovision artists admitting that they have Become Mainstream#that their music is not as good as it was#that it has become POP#that their music is now for literal children#and that we are children playing along with them#its also kinda liberating#the idea of music for the sake of being playful and fun#because idk about you i came with big expectations about big lyrics about big things#we kinda got them dont get me wrong#but i liked being slapped in the face and being told Shut up let's just have a little fun#i had fun! i wouldnt have liked this album as half as i did without Muzika za decu being first#wonderful opener and my favorite song of this album#overall i think there are a lot of very smart songs in this album#that kinda play in my opinion with their shift of perception after eurovision#i think its a very contextual maybe even subjective album#and while i think musically its not as good as demoni or um it gives you a lot to think
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Hermes: this is unfair. you are all MY descendants WHERE is the loyalty???
Athena, sipping sedately on wine and being cuddled by grey-eyed ithakans: you're welcome to come to family debate night if you want
#hermes#athena#shes the god who stepped up#Extremely funny to hc odysseus has grey eyes after meeting athena#cause now the first reaction u have is oh wow children of athena#odysseus at least looked somewhat like hermes. post telemachus it was all just dark hair and grey eyes lmao#epic the musical#greek mythology#one thing they all have in common tho is the laughter. every single one even ten generations down has hermes' laugh#and a penchant for thieving and trickery
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