#fandom drama bullshit
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Learn to deal with your feelings without equating it to Systemic Oppression when you aren't happy.
'they killed off a protagonist' no they didn't
'they killed off one of the only characters in the show that's played by a queer actor' not really
'well they killed off the only character in the show that's played by an actor that's vocal about queer rights' 1. no 2. please don't say shit like this when vico ortiz is right there 3. no again
'they fridged him' nope
'they only killed him for ed's development' also nope
'they caved to anti pressure' lmao
'they buried their gays' 1. [hot fuzz voice] just the one gay actually 2. that's not what that means
'this is ableist' it's not
'this is homophobic' it's not that either
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I think forgetting about dream studio in the second film was a mistake. It has so much potential!
#art#artists on tumblr#fanart#inside out 2#inside out fandom#inside out#inside out fanart#inside out anxiety#inside out ennui#tags are always so hard for me#think about every time you dreamed about something as a teen and it was terrifying as hell#that's what i am talking about#teen dreams has so much absurd and drama#like i was literally watching the most intense drama every night and then wake up realising it was a complete bullshit#BUT I HAD SO MANY FELLINGS ABOUT IT!!!
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Not even a little bit interested in getting into a shipping war because Buck is happy. He is getting a chance that Dean Winchester never got.
#evan buck buckely#bucktommy#This fandom is driving me nuts over the whole Buddie bullshit#Like can't y'all just be fucking grateful?#We waited for 15 years for Dean to end up with Cas and Cas ended up in Superhell#Buddie may never be canon and you need to be okay with it#Leave the actors and your drama out of it#You are acting like children#911 abc
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Crazy thought, it's almost like the nevercord mods have never heard of this
#nevermore#nevermore webcomic#nevermore webtoon#nevermore discord#rnf#rnf bullshit#silly how refusing to tell someone why they were banned just makes everyone mad#it goes in the nevermore tags btw because it’s relevant to the fandom!#oh well! there is no drama in nevercord :)
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Open letter to the chucklehead anon going around harassing people,
You need to take a breather and work on your emotional maturity before you start interacting with fandom spaces.
"Wildly inappropriate" doesn't begin to cover your behavior over these past few days, but it's a good start.
It was bad enough that you made a fatphobic fool of yourself not once, but twice in @/mire-draws-things askbox. When things didn't pan out the way you hoped, you tried the old "I'm neurodivergent and a minor!" spell in hopes of turning people into bullies. (No; not how that works.)
You have since made it infinitely worse for yourself by showing up in the asks of blogs like @/kimiheartblade, @/wings-and-beskar, @/moonlightwarriorqueen since then, doubling, tripling, and quadrupling down on your absurdity and a warped sense of "canon compliance". Several blogs you have interacted with are run by adults, who regularly/often post and share adult content. If you are a minor, you should not be interacting with them. Go find other blogs who are not 18+, and share your view of canon compliance ((likely) whitewashed to hell and dangerously underweight).
Additionally, your neurodivergence does not absolve or otherwise excuse you from the consequences of your behavior. If you behave like a shitty person, chances are people are going to tell you you're being a shitty person.
As a neurodivergent adult, I'm going to give you some very blunt advice that I wish I was given as a neurodivergent minor who was getting their feet wet in fandom spaces: You need to learn when you're wrong. You need to learn that fighting tooth and nail like this, trying to "prove" your point, is a waste of breath. What you are doing is only to your detriment. You are not doing yourself any favors. You are going to come across artwork, headcanons and stories that you do not jive with: it is an inevitability. So instead of making yourself look like an ass by arguing (or sending hate), you will need to walk the hell away. You can even block or mute them for good measure.
At the end of the day it is you and you alone that will be responsible for curating your fandom experience.
Someone's Clone OC having a bit of a belly is not "subjecting people to a fetish". It is not "making them unrecognizable" either, if you could still tell he was supposed to be a Clone.
Your victim card has been declined; it is time to log off.
#frosts fandom freakouts#(fandom drama edition)#I've been away mourning the loss of my cat and I spy some absolute *bullshit* in my peripheral vision#you're going to have to forgive me for not having a lot of tack right now#and I don't expect this to get far as I've been inactive; but it should be said all the same#bad anon no biscuit
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I really don’t understand why people hate Tommy so much? Like. It’s okay not to like the guy, but if you think he’s just a temporary love interest anyways then literally why do you care???
#and this is coming from a buddie shipper!!!!#I’m mostly over bucktommy personally but I still indulge from time to time#but honestly I’m following more bucktommy people than buddie rn bc some of y’all have lost your damn minds over hating a fictional guy#like jfc get a grip and utilize tumblrs filtering features like the rest of us#facism is on the rise and I just want to enjoy my stupid firefighter show without having to see this dumb stuff#WHICH BTW if you’re gonna act foolish then can you at least tag it properly? I’m so fucking tired guys#anyways this is me humbly asking folks to learn the wonders of bitching in the group chat and letting people live#thank you and goodnight#911#fandom drama#phil speaks#oh ALSO#BUCKTOMMY SHIPPERS ARE NOT OFF THE HOOK#if I see ANYONE saying stupid shit I’m blocking so don’t come at me with any bullshit#anyone participating in this stupid ship war is annoying to me and that’s that
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I'm convinced it's because they don't actually have a real stance other than "I'm upset by this and I want to punish it for upsetting me". They'll say anything they think will work to get people to agree that they've been personally victimized and that the thing is Bad for upsetting them.
i have such a weird time reading post s2 metas from izzy enjoyers who are still mad abt the season tho bc they are so clearly reading against the text that at times im convinced they HAVE to be aware of it (“the season isn’t a happy ending it’s a horror story waiting to happen”) but then other times they’re pulling scenes clips from the show as evidence for their takes (ed head butting stede in s4 when his brain is couscous and he can’t even talk is proof that he’s going to physically abuse stede) and i’m like, are you trying to convince me that this is the Correct Reading Of The Show? and do you think the Correct Reading is the same as the Intended Reading That The Writers Were Trying To Convey? or are you looking at this like we’re analyzing real people with free will who are capable of making their own autonomous decisions? or is it some other thing that makes this The Correct Way To Interpret OFMD?
bc a lot of these metas are like, Arguing A Point and i’m not sure what metric they’re using to judge themselves as Correct. like the “ed is a domestic abuser” interpretation: do they think that’s the story the writers intended to tell? or do they think that’s just the objective moral facts of ed’s actions????
that read is wild to me too bc if that IS what they think the writers were intentionally trying to do with ed idk why their criticism of s2 is “they killed ed’s abuse victim” and not “they wrote the indigenous lead in a romcom to be a domestic abuser which was like, really fucking racist of them” like they should’ve been angry at the writing in this show WAY before izzy was killed off but lol whateverrrr
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This is the bully list after what happened to @abby118 . It comes from a famous Loki GIFS creator on tumblr who is also getting harassed & showed in the toxic behavior of this person behind these many alts accounts. Share it with everyone !!
lokilaufeysondiaries strangegodsloki queenofstarsign85 dreamingofimpalas hereitgoesagain067 buckybarnes-winters0ldier themoonsmaven nerdconpp crackships-r-us69 lokisimp89 lowkey-lokid souls-for-fandoms cassius-blackwood fandemoniumfantasies ladylovelyfan2014 lokismilkshake goddessofvictoryy
PSA for people being targeted by any or all of the above blogs.
personally, I am agnostic on the topic of preemptively blocking people (and sharing block lists, for that matter). I don't usually block people myself unless I'm getting directly harassed and they're becoming a distraction/it's the only way to get them out of my notes. with that being said, that's a personal choice of mine, and I fully support the rights of any blogger to block any other blogger for any (or even no) reason. nobody is entitled to read or interact with anybody else's blog.
this should also go without saying in this day and age, but I do not condone nor encourage anyone going to any of the above blogs to counter-bully them. do not spam their posts' notes, do not send them anon hate, so on and so forth. just block (or don't, if you prefer) and move on. not only for your own sake, but because from my limited direct interactions with/knowledge of a couple of them, it's clear that they crave the attention and it only feeds into their self-pitying view of themselves as the perpetual victim (despite them being the aggressors in each instance I've borne witness to). don't feed the trolls, etc etc.
stay safe out there and do what you need to do to take care of yourselves, loki fandom. 💚💛🖤
#barring further updates to the names on this list#(in which case i will likely just edit this post to avoid this nonsense taking over my whole blog#rather than publish any additional asks on the subject)#i do not intend to address this topic any further#frankly it's bullshit high school drama that i'm way too fucking old to engage in#but just a reminder once again#that you are perfectly entitled to block anyone at anytime for any reason#there's absolutely nothing wrong with curating your own tumblr experience#to provide the greatest joy/least amount of stress possible#whatever that means for you#doing so is normative and healthy actually#ok /psa back to our regularly scheduled nonsense#fandom wank#send me asks
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Jeez, I'm not even as into LU as I used to be, but antis still exist? Especially for a ship that pre-dates LU in general. Why does ship-and-let-ship not exist everywhere?
Anyway, shipping drama is dumb and always will be dumb to me. If you don't like a ship, just block the tag. It is literally that easy.
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*coughs up mic* Hey Gals :DD
A.U where before Telemachus meets Athena he decides “Y’know what? I’m gonna go find dad myself >:((“ and goes sailing off on their own journey to find Odysseus. Aaand somehow, somewhere along the way ends up gaining a only kinda ‘crew’ consisting of:
—a Lotuseater who Telemachus names ‘Gát’ (nickname is jst the Greek word for cat without the last ‘t’)
—a bunch of dumbass Sirens (their all a mix of their more accurate designs AKA bird ppl & the modern Mermaid lol haven’t thought up any name for the 3 of them yet L)
—feral ass sea wanderer of a homeless (Gran)Demigod (former) princess (thinking of naming her either Koinós or Mēdén idk I apologise for my shitty Ancient Greek O.C naming attempts jjhhh I am using google for it 😭)
—another O.C whose a fankid of Notus (God of the South Wind)
—teen pirates (even as they become closer, a small part of Machus’s’ brain would still like to casually yeet them right overboard whenever any snarking & / or little shit questioning happens)
…& Thanatos, Personification of (albeit peaceful) Death,,,,,
damn, that’s one crazy tourist group right there I’ll tell you what,,,
also, in Telemachus’s absence, Penelope kills all the suitors hehe :)
#bullshit to keep me going ♾️✨#shitpost#epic fandom#epic the musical#epic telemachus#epic penelope#greek mythology#greek gods#greek tumblr#greek myth retellings#epic lotus eaters#epic sirens#epic Thanatos#Manifesting him in dw#Idk where I’m going w/ this lol I just wanna give Telemachus some other weird friends apart from Athena#Speaking of her. Athena shows up at Ithaca n sees the aftermath of Penelope’s massacre is like “wtf????????” Is filled in of the situation-#Including the fact that the prince is missing. Comforts Penelope about it n then is like “Chaosdamn it not his son disappearing as well-#-hhhhhh I’ll go find he >:(((((((((“ & ye Athena is like the main force chasing after these fools unbeknownst to (most of) them lol#IDK WHY TELE’ WOULD LEAVE WITHOUT TELLING HIS MUM I JUST WANT DRAMA#LET ME COOK BROS🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥#Telemachus keeps missing death by a mere inch everywhere he goes so that’s basically why Than’ is there lmaoooooooooo their kinda-#Exasperated by this lil guy’s constant nu uhing to dying but also intrigued :0#epic au#The Horizon to Beyond: Telemachus Journey A.U#epic the musical oc#epic athena#greek mythology oc#fic ideas#Death & the Dodger duo
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I think a lot of it was entrenched before s2 was even confirmed, let alone filmed or released, making it even more weird because at that point Izzy didn't have a queer realization story, wasn't disabled (ok you could make a bit of an argument about his toe but that was not true until the very end and also I never saw anyone going on about how he's such disabled rep until s2 so I know that wasn't a major fandom motivation for latching onto him) and hadn't come around to Stede's way of doing things. He spent the entirety of s1 being a truly horrid little rat bastard to everyone he interacted with -- at best, to those he was actively trying to collaborate with (like Spanish Jackie), a tolerable degree annoying to put up with for the sake of the shared goal. He was randomly both physically and verbally mean to his own underlings, lied and manipulated and was at least verbally rude to Ed constantly, and both encouraged and engaged in verbal and physical abuse toward Stede's crew. He then tried to kill Stede, threw a fit when the duel didn't go his way and he was held to the terms he himself chose to set, then betrayed Ed and put all of them in mortal danger by calling the cops, got put in charge of the crew BY said cops and treated them so horribly they were ready to mutiny in two days, then proceeded to verbally abuse and berate Ed for daring to try to change and find a healthier way to live that he liked better.
I want to be very clear that by no means am I talking about "everyone who likes Izzy" here, since some dipshits love to make that unreasonable assumption every time anyone criticizes ANY Izzy fans, but I honestly think a factor was that there are some people in the world who are just mean, nasty, manipulative, abusive little assholes, and who are actively invested in trying to keep as many people as possible from realizing how shitty they are. And I think some of them they saw their chance to play the victim with Izzy. He's just like them, in s1. A mean, nasty, manipulative, abusive little asshole. And they managed to spin enough meta to convince the gullible to join them in an echo-chamber pit, spread a bunch of shit about how "everyone" "harasses" Izzy fans so if you like Izzy at all you'd better block anyone who ever says anything critical on sight or you'll get doxxed and whatever else, probably fueling that by sending themselves fake anon hate and using sock accounts to pretend to be Izzy haters being horrible, and also definitely blowing ANY instance of someone Izzy-critical being so much as mildly rude in response to a frustrating interaction, let alone actually acting out of line, out of proportion as a huge victimization of Izzy fans, and amping it up for a fear tactic to create a walled garden of people willing to believe that Izzy's abusive behavior in s1 is somehow "romantic" and also willing to immediately cut off all contact with anyone who so much as suggests otherwise.
It's shockingly cultlike and it genuinely worries me for people's safety who are involved in "The Canyon". I'm not trying to be mean, honestly, I am deeply concerned. They're also annoying as fuck on a regular basis, but like, GUYS. Do you want snapewives? Because this is how you get snapewives.
The thing that still absolutely baffles me about that corner of the fandom that are utterly convinced Izzy is not just the main character but also a character he just never was in the show is, like...why Izzy?
Like, I actually like Izzy. I love Con O'Neill as an actor and the things this man says are so fucked up. He compells me. I like Izzy, I even enjoy his s2 arc overall (especially knowing how it ends).
But fanon Izzy over there is not my Izzy. It's just straight-up not the same guy.
So why did Izzy, of all characters, get this huge fan reaction? I literally can't think of many traits that Izzy actually has in canon that are unique to him.
Queer realization story? That's Stede's whole s1 plot.
Disabled? Izzy isn't even the only character with a wooden body part.
Initially reluctant to Stede's way of doing piracy but comes around due to the power of queer community? My man Black Pete is right there.
Even when I'm trying to be charitable, the only thing I can think of for why a portion latched onto Izzy and became so determined to create a whole new character there is because Izzy doesn't commit any of the "crimes" our actual main characters or the other characters he shares traits with do. He's White, he's comfortably masc in a way Stede and Lucius just aren't, he doesn't have a lisp like Pete. Even his queerness is honestly subtextual. So he becomes a very easy slate to fans to add traumatic backstories and sympathetic motivations that weren't in the show onto.
It's just...weird, but in a really predictable way, I think, that a portion of fandom imprinted on this guy.
#ofmd#fandom drama bullshit#yeah yeah every izzy stan has their story about 'I got death threats and someone actually got doxxed'#sure you probably did. Are you SURE they all came from actual Izzy haters & not sock accounts or just plain ol petty drama llamas on anon?#and I have also not seen any evidence proving that the ONE doxxing was actually by an izzy hater#if it was it was wildly out of line no one is contesting that. It was wildly out of line either way#but my point is it's either manufactured drama or if real was taken advantage of to scaremonger beyond the actual danger#also I know they passed around an 'izzy haters' blocklist that included literally everyone who said anything critical about izzy#or about even the most unhinged takes from ANY izzy stan no matter how specific in saying 'this take *in particular* is bad'#got one of 'em to admit it obliquely on twitter once#it's REAL sus for culty bullshit
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all this picture does to me when i look at it is reminding me what a great love triangle these 3 would have been
#idc idc#young justice#artemis crock#wally west#am i back on my yj bullshit?#yeah a bit#this show is that one ex i keep getting back together w and i don’t mind 🤷🏻♀️#zatanna and wally are both in love w artemis#it’s canon TO ME#i love drama idc#also don’t mind bb and sb they have nothing to do w my point#you can keep the ch*lant vs d*ckb*bs crap out of here#this was supposed to be it#the true debate of this fandom should have been abt who ARTEMIS should date not dick#snaibsel
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This controversy over ownership is getting me pissed. Every gif, every picture we use is already stolen, property of Amazon. Characters property of Tolkien stolen every time we write fic. Actors faces 'desecrated' every time we make art. EVERY TIME. So we're ALL guilty. I don't see why people need to point fingers when we all take part EQUALLY in this 'sacrilege'. Mea culpa. I take part and I won't pretend that some usage is more acceptable than others.
People shouldn't be claiming they 'own' gifs and sign them. You don't own shit. Amazon does. They own every frame of 'your' gif. But then again I'm guilty of using faces and characters and I tend to sign those creations so I'm not going to shovel shit on someone else for how they use the material that doesn't belong to them. Is similar behaviour from everyone else too much to ask?
#needed to say this#thranduil#saurondriel#galadriel#tolkien#fandom#fanfiction#trop#There's a lot of bullshitting#goodnight#don't make me wake up to a dumpster fire#unnecessary fandom drama
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#not my place to say because i have no clue what's happening and don't involve myself in any of this but like.#it really does make the fandom experience worse when the only thing people are absorbed in is drama.#i feel very isolated from everyone rn and it's making it very hard to be online#no matter where you stand it's isolating and it sucks. feels like everyone is bonding over gossip that i truly Do Not Care About#and i'm just. sadtoad.jpeg#(not that i don't care about my friends getting bullied or anything!!!)#(this isn't even a vague this is about fandom issues that have Always Existed)#(it just feels like i stay in my lane and anytime i veer out of it i'm bombarded with crazy bullshit LOL)#i miss my friends and my rp partners and i just asfdajdgfasvjd i'm having a hard time being here rn#anyway if you made it to the end of this vent this is all to say: SORRY I'M NOT WRITING AND SORRY I'M NOT ON DISCORD LMAO#tua s4 ruined my life and now i'm trying to get away from vagueposts and bullshit and i just. I CAN'T FUCKING TAKE IT i'm sorry#*【 ❛I'm not the spirit of any age. ❜ 】 ➤ OOC
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GIRL (gn) come sit with me. Your friends suck and that's cult mentality you're describing, seriously. Not being allowed to have a little different take about fictional guys is not a good friendship.
Let 'em call you whatever. You know it's not true. The rest of the sane people know it's not true. Block 'em if they stir shit.
Yes, losing friends sucks! But it's better to get out of that kind of toxic circle based on callouts and us-vs-them all the time and find new friends who aren't constantly looking for excuses to bully each other.
I cant fucking take it anymore. I love Izzy all my friends love Izzy but I love the show too. I’m sick of being called an abuse apologist because I like Ed. I never shipped edizzy bc the interesting part is how unrequited Izzy’s feelings are. So he can pine for Ed and maybe someday realize his attempts to keep Ed are only hurting them both. Maybe find a new love. And okay he died and I was devastated but his speech was perfect. His apology. I loved it. He was wrong in season one everything he did was wrong. Ed deserved an apology. Now Con says that Ed and Izzy never had a romantic relationship and I feel vindicated. I was right. People tried to convince me otherwise but Ed was not attracted to Izzy. Now my friends are telling me that “not romantic” means “purely sexual” and for fucks sake ship whatever you want but don’t tell me the stuff you made up is canon. Izzy was never a sexual prospect for Ed or Stede. Steddyhands was never ever going to be endgame. I’m starting to lose friends because I don’t treat fic as canon. I feel insane I feel like I have to be wrong that the main romance is Ed and Stede because everyone around me insists Ed and Izzy were together.
My friends think I’m a traitor I don’t know what to do. I am sick of them complaining about “antis” and David Jenkins all day. I have to get out of here slowly and quietly so no one calls me out for being an abuse apologist, it’s so hurtful just because I like a fictional character I will be called an abuser and shunned.
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Sometimes there's simply no such thing as being "neutral"
Everyone is allowed to hang out and befriend whoever they want; just as others are allowed to notice it and take their distances if needed
It's not even about ""choosing a side"", it's about reading the room, having critical thinking or realizing that things aren't always "personal beefs" - sometimes people are just assholes and shouldn't be comforted or encouraged in their behaviors; hell, if you're their friends, you should even call their bullshit out, that's what friends are supposed to do
and if you're too scared to call their bullshit out cause they might attack or bully you, well I don't think that "friendship" is worth it in the first place but y'know
#I'm getting a bit tired of this fandom's Neutrality you know#So called Neutral people have blocked me because I replied to wash and skd bullshit over my flat chest mod#So called Neutral people keep on supporting them and their tantrums as well#and I'm sorry but like I said in the past - if I see that you're enabling them I'll simply block you#and I won't interact with you anymore because this isn't being neutral at all 🤷♂️#there ARE actual neutral people who are just chilling in their corners without giving two shits about any dramas regardless#who are talking to whoever they want regardless of who have beefs with who - those people are thriving deadass#I'm not a neutral person 🤚 If I see a drama take place I can form my own opinion and take my own stance#ESPECIALLY if it affects a friend of mine or someone I appreciate - even if we don't interact#fandom wank#blah blah
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