#fan discorse

[a-roguish-gambit]

I love how when someone headcanons a not totally sex repulsed character as asexual or on the aro/ace spectrum people can't just... respectfully disagree. They gotta pull out ALLL the aphobia.

"x character can't be asexual cause they enjoy sex and have it often"

"X character is too dirty minded to be ace"

"x character can't be in a healthy relationship if they are ace"

"some ace people I met don't agree with this headcanon that means you can't headcanon it either."

"as a non ace person this character doesn't seem ace to me"

I've come across so many comments on ace Gambit posts alone and even anti ace Gambit posts....like Jesus fuck what is this, 2017 again? Let me enjoy my dumb headcanons in peace. It's my comfort character and I get to decide how to project onto it!

[scarletbegoniasjunk]

Omg, I had no idea there was a lot of tag clogging bc of the Leosagi tag until I watched this video. So sorry Leo x Miyamoto shippers! Just as a general rule, and as a little thing for my followers, I’m gonna be tagging Rise!Leo and Yuichi Usagi stuff as “Leochi” and “Leoichi” from now on :) and i would suggest you do too

I know it won’t get me the same reach as just tagging Leosagi would, but the Miyamoto fans ARE the blueprint and they don’t have a lot of wins. This one’s for you guys, love y’all.

[roxannarambles]

Aren’t Luz and Hunter siblings? /gen

(I'll answer this in good faith, even though there's a chance anon is trolling.)

No, they are not. They are not related. They were not raised together. At no point did they ever state in the show they consider themselves to be siblings. Camila Noceda did not adopt Hunter. There is zero support for this claim.

The "siblings" thing is a popular fandom headcanon, nothing more. If you watch the entire show, you will notice this fact.

I don't blame you for feeling confused, since this headcanon is extremely popular, and fans tend to be very aggressive if you dislike this particular headcanon. But that is unfortunately how fandom works a lot of the time; popular headcanons become so widespread and people grow so attached to them, they start to forget that other interpretations are possible and also valid.

[undeadfvckgirl-base]

I need people to understand that is you say "I won't judge you for a ship" and then go "Oh but if you ship incest I'm reporting and blocking you" then I'm blocking you because you're tone deaf as hell and I don't like you. Idec if I don't like the ship if you are that hypocritical I don't want to be around you and you people need to just be straight forward and say you're a judgemental person because the way yall hold out on saying you'll report someone's account over fictional characters is actually wild and its not a good thing or something to be proud about.

[robotclownindulgence]

We had fandom discourse class today☺️

[theramblingsofadork]

It’s a new year! 🎉 Exciting times ahead!

I have been finding it tricky to find and interact with other Sonic fans. Especially those who like IDW, so I figure, I might as well shoot my shot here and ask!

If anyone knows any Sonic servers/groups, or wants to chat about anything Sonic related, (especially IDW), please reach out! My messages are always open!

I know this blog may be mainly focused on my AU and Dr. Starline, but I do enjoy all the other characters too and am up for chatting about all of them! :D (Your OCs and their stories too! Gimme!)

[tweedfrog]

What do you think would be funnier, Rhaegar being super average looking and everyone thinking he was gorgeous because of a beautiful singing voice, or him being a terrible musician, but everyone being too distracted by his beautiful face to recognize it?

BOTH AKSKDJSLSJS I'm sorry the comedy of him being so hot he manages to distract people into not realize he's absolutely butchering the harp is priceless

[dimensionhoppr]

ok you'll have to forgive me i haven't played the game in over a year but i have absolute brain worms rn.

WHY do i never see anybody talking abt gundam beating the final dead room. like. not only was he smart enough to beat it but he also went through the russian roulette game before komaeda even thought abt making his way through.

maybe it's my gundham goggles but bear with me here. we already know he viewed his life as expendable and despite all his bravado, he was more than willing to put his life on the line if it means potentially saving his classmates. a gamble on his life? easy for the supreme overlord of ice. there's just, so much to explore in this aspect of his character than i feel most ppl just. overlook lol

[batsarebetterthanpeople]

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[ghostthecryptid]

I love when theres art/writings about discorse on the base.

Like theres bound to be discourse amongst them. Their all pretty different from being loud to being quiet, introverted to extroverted, and their from different areas. From the states to Europe, to Australia.

But its just funny to have someone flesh out the idea of the different types of discourse they may have.

Fights over someone taking a sandwhich or drinking all the coffee. And then fights over name calling and pointing fingers and blame for a lost match.

And my personal favorite, Scout finding out Spy is his dad and they get in a physical altercation and at the same time some of the other mercs are either trying to pull them apart so Scout doesnt kill Spy and the other half are laughing their asses off

I think when any one of them get into a fight it depends on whos in the fight and thats when they determine if they should break it up or just let them get a few bruises and work it out. Usually its just a few punches are exchanged and boom problem solved.

Other times its imperative that they do seperate the fight because shit is hitting the fan quick and someone might die and Medic does not want to put up with that.

I also think usually when Scout and Spy end up in a fight, no one pulls them apart because its basically just a wrestling match (Spy restraining Scout) but when Scout finds out Spy is his dad its just pure murderous intent behind his eyes. Its just heat of the moment things. Just a flood of emotions realizing the guy hes been working with and most likely the one he hated the most on the team was actually his father? Yeah shit is gonna go down

[tea-cat-arts]

FUCKING TAG YOUR MADAM YU BASHING POSTS AS "Yu Ziyuan critical," "Madam Yu critical," "Yu Ziyuan bashing," OR "Madam Yu bashing"!!! IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING SHE DID IN THE LIVE ACTION EXCLUSIVELY THEN DONT TAG THE BOOKS!!! GIVE FANS OF THE CHARACTER THE OPTION OF OPTING OUT OF DISCORSE BEFORE THEY HAVE TO SEE IT AT ALL

I can't force you guys to like Madam Yu but my god do I want to be able to block these posts before having to see them

[cearthduo]

tbh I've been thinking about this and like people in this fandom need to remenber we all are real people, im not saying liking or even being kind to each other's takes but just remenber we are all real people. Like in the apologists discorse for example, people will call each other names or acuse them of stuff just bc they like a characther or are a apologist or ship x, etc. And like you can frustated at them or dont like them but I think insulting/acussing of stuff each others goes too far. Bc at the end of the day, cdream, ctommy, ctubbo, etc etc are fictional, not real. Someone saying "cdream did nothing wrong" for a example but aplies to all the characthers, it's not right but it's not hurting anyone irl. You can dislike it or rant about it on your blog but the moment you go out of your way to insult them directly you're the one atacking someone real, bc the person behind the screen is real, the victims of cdream's doings are not. it reminds me of people hating on twillight fans that loved edward even if he was a bad person and like yeah but he's also fictional.

I think people should just be nicer with each others, at the end fandom is for fun. You can make the fan content more out of characther and canon or the perfect canon compilant work ever but the way you treat others it's what actually talks about you in my opinion. That's why I hate the apologists fights like guys cmon this are fictional men, none of you are better than the other. All these characthers have been dicks at some point anyways just have fun on your corner.

Also I really like our takes on cgeorge and cdream, your are is so cute too i love it!

i want to add to this but i literally just agree. my replies can be passive aggressive (because i'm just a hater like that) but i don't have anything against anyone. i'm glad people have opposing takes and that lore discourse is still alive and well. i think without it this fandom just wouldn't be as fun. also tysm!!! i have more art and a dnf lore analysis in the works but i've been distracted by discourse and replying to asks </3 (please keep the asks coming guys i love them they make me feel like i've made it even though i have 30 followers to my name)

[sanjiafsincedayone]

SaNa is enhanced by Toei? Filler vs manga and a shipping narrative + SaNa in new arcs and Nami's feelings

Sorry for the long title, but I decided to answer two asks in one post since they are in the same ask... And I also wanted the topics to be clear. Anyways, let's get to it because this will be a rather long one. :)

Hi @trompas-kun :) Thank you so much for liking my blog and my "Why SaNa over other ships" post. I apologize for it taking me so long to answer, but I kind of wrote more than I planned, and then I got sick for 3 weeks. I’m so sorry. T-T I hope it will be worth the wait.

I also want to say thank you for your questions! I find them very interesting, though I first hesitated to answer the first one due to the SaNa vs Lu/Na nature of it. But considering I still get random hate from Lu/Na shippers despite being fairly civil I suppose it doesn’t matter what I do. Besides, this is my view on the whole thing and I think it’s important to maybe add a counter to it since this concept of Toei being pro or anti various ships seem to have spread more and more the last couple of years, basically all of it coming from the Lu/Na shippers. Sadly the Sa/Na fandom doesn’t have as strong a voice as the Lu/Na one so this might go unnoticed to most, but I hope this view of Toei having their own secret agendas can die down at least a little as time passes.

Regarding Toei adding or changing things, they do it all the time to all kinds of moments. I personally think that the “Toei enhances Sana but downplays Lu/Na” is an exaggerated discourse that has spread because the Lu/Na shippers read the same analysis and spread some examples and trust it blindly instead of actually watching the anime and reading the manga with unbiased eyes. Not to mention when you have a bias you tend to notice “negative things” or things that go against your belief more. So because of this negativity bias and it being spread and talked about it has become “accepted” in the Lu/Na fandom that SaNa being pushed by Toei (at the expense of Lu/Na) is how it is. And because the Lu/Na fandom is loud and big it spreads even outside of their echo chamber to some degree, but from what I have seen this is mostly something that Lu/Na shippers claim and talk about and not the general fandom. So to begin with I wouldn’t say it’s “people saying” this, but rather fans that are Lu/Na shippers or anti Sa/Na.

I think it’s very convenient how the Lu/Na shippers ignore when the Toei makes things that highlight Nami and Luffy’s bond but say they favor Sa/Na when the truth is that Toei adds a lot in all kinds of moments, to fill out and make the anime longer than the manga. We for example have the whole Nebulandia thing which they praised to no end when it came out.

Not to mention in the WCI arc (around when this whole discorse started to spread) where they added a full moment of Nami going to Luffy and crying first after his fight with Sanji, though in the manga she goes directly to Sanji and has no interaction with Luffy until he wakes up again.

But I suppose Toei’s added moments are only “good” when it benefits them. For example how they love Nami wearing Luffy’s hat in Skypiea despite it being filler. She carries it in the manga, but she doesn’t wear it. It’s a small change, but one could call it “pandering” since Lu/Na shippers love to bring up Nami wearing his hat.

I could say in the same arc Sa/Na is “downplayed” by Toei making Sanji give flowers to both Nami and Robin when he only is shown wanting to give one to Nami in the manga. Of course over such a long show you can find various examples both for or against most ships being favored or “downplayed”. I do think these small changes can in some cases change an anime only watcher’s view, but most of the time it’s not really any huge changes that are being made.

They also forget that many of the “negative” Sa/Na moments are enhanced in the anime for gag purposes, something that makes many see Sa/Na in a worse way than they are portrayed in the manga. (Actually gags in general seems to get kind of overused in the anime.) For example showing Nami having to physically stop Sanji at times.

Sometimes Toei adds things that, though small, might change how the watchers view the characters but in no way do I think they are doing this to push one particular ship over another. I think this view that Toei pushes SaNa has more to do with recency bias and negativity bias in the shippers that don't like SaNa. They focus on only what they consider bad for their own ship, especially after having this theory being presented to them, and make it into a bigger thing that it likely is. Then they more easily remember these examples rather than things that in contrast might be “bad” for Sa/Na as a ship.

I’ve spoken about Sa/Na and fillers before in Hidden SaNami - Manga and filler, and I am not going to lie and say we don’t get really good fillers at times. But I am also of the belief that what Toei does is add things mostly based on what they think fits. And it just so happens that Sanji is very much specifically attached to Nami and their dynamic works well both for gags and in some cases even “romantic looking scenarios” when there is real drama going on. The writers at Toei see that and so they fill out scenes that already exist or create new ones that are in their opinion in character for the strawhats. For example, they know Sanji is a heart-eyed pervert, and so they added more moments for him with the mermaids in Fishman Island as an example. During WCI he had a romance focused storyline and thus they also added moments between Sanji and Purin that were not in the manga.

Sanji saving her from falling and San/Pu holding hands is one example of something that never happened, which to me clearly shows it’s more about adding what they think they can in regards to the characters and the current story, rather than having some secret agenda for certain ships.

Another San/Pu example is this tiny panel where Sanji is carrying her being zoomed in and changed to a bridial carry. It happens to many ships and moments so the "Toei loves SaNa" simply isn't true in my opinion.

Pandering to ships happens in most anime, and even Sanji x Zoro has gotten some rather obviously shippy moments. But the Lu/Na shippers don’t focus on or care about these other things, because Sa/Na (and to some extent Lu/Han) is their main target.

What I think Lu/Na fans might have a hard time accepting is that Luffy and Nami don't have a relationship where you can add shippy types of moments as easily. Not that it hasn’t happened, just look at the Nebulandia special again. But Luffy in particular is simply ill-fitted for shippy moments. For Hancock they added a “shippy scene” with Luffy but that was of course a dream and a gag, because it would be weird to see Luffy act like that towards anyone. The whole joke is that it’s out of character for Luffy.

Toei saw a chance to be funny and took it. Similarly we have seen Sanji “dream” of having a child with Nami in filler, which is also more in line with Sanji but would be really weird to see coming from Nami.

From what I recall this whole idea of Toei being pro Sa/Na was born in the Lu/Na fandom after the Zou scene with Nami running after Sanji. Then they just looked for older moments to add to their already decided hypothesis that Toei is biased (while still being happy about whatever added Lu/Na moment Toei has made and saying things like “they got it right this time”). 

Granted that scene between SaNa in Zou is very dramatic and even slightly romantic looking, but Nami during all of Zou was very much highlighted as the most worried about Sanji in the manga. Thus Toei likely took the chance to add this scene. Likewise Nami was hurt by Sanji in WCI and thus they added the corridor walk scene (which I’ve seen anti Sa/Na people use as an example of Nami hating Sanji by the way). It’s extra drama added based on similar previous moments and the feelings they expressed in the manga.

There is actually a particular post from a Lu/Na shipper that I suspect made this viewpoint more widespread through their community, and in that post they even use Sa/Na examples that aren’t correct. For example, they claim that Nami’s reaction in the moment in Skypiea when Sanji saves Nami and Usopp is exaggerated in the anime. (And that Toei stole/copied the moment from a Lu/Na scene). Let me just show you a piece of that post here.

But, it isn’t really the way this post describes it. They excluded some manga panels in their “analysis” post, making the change seem more dramatic than it was.

Maybe they read this very incorrect old translation and trusted it? (Personally I don’t understand how this translation could happen to begin with.)

I don’t know, but Nami is saying exactly the same thing she did in the anime, asking why Usopp is accelerating and mentioning Sanji before Usopp interrupt her. The scene is longer than the small panel, but that is literally the purpose of making an anime based of a manga. But the dialogue is the same in the manga and the anime, and thus the whole point of the anime changing this "move or be toasted" moment to be more pro SaNa is simply false.

I remember seeing this post when it was new, and admittedly I have not checked all comparisons and I am sure some are legit changes/filler additions, but the Skypiea moment in particular made me annoyed because I know they described it incorrectly and it’s a moment from the manga that I really like, where Nami is showing a lot of concern for Sanji. I won’t share the link or full original post, because I don’t want people to go there and comment and make a fuss, but I also wanted to mention it as I do think it has affected the Lu/Na shippers view a lot.

More than anything though I think that Lu/Na shippers forget how many Sanji x Nami moments Oda himself has written in the manga. Then they use the fillers as an excuse or even anti-SaNa propaganda to lift their own ship and downplay SaNa. This is the perhaps radical opinion I have about it at least, because honestly when going through a manga that is 1000+ chapters and adding filler moments to that you can probably find a lot of inconsistencies that align with whatever agenda you try to push. You just have to use the right angle and ignore examples that might go against your point. (Which the Lu/Na fandom clearly has done) "It's Toei's fault SaNa looks like a good ship to some" is such a weird rhetoric to have considering how many great SaNa moments there are in the manga.

For me Sa/Na in the manga is a good ship that has had a lot of great moments. I feel like Lu/Na shippers tend to ignore or downplay how much Oda has given Sanji and Nami time to have their own relationship development and that Sa/Na is far from a shallow gag ship that’s promoted by Toei as some of them try to claim. Luffy himself said in WCI to Sanji that “Nami and the others worried about you more than anyone” and Nami and Sanji had their own storylines with serious interactions in many arcs despite Sanji not being the main hero.

In the end, maybe Toei’s image of the manga and the characters simply doesn’t fit with what the Lu/Na shippers want it to be? Maybe they have read too much into things that don't really suggest what they want it to? And then consequently get angry when other pairs get more shippy moments than their own.

Also, in general I find the filler excuse kind of funny, because they imply that Oda has no influence over the anime whatsoever and that Toei animation are the bad guys going against his will on purpose. Yet Toei also makes the movies, and some of those are extremely well-received, praised and used as “proof” amongst the Lu/Na fandom. So the movies are just this big exception when Toei does what Oda actually wants, while when it comes to the canon story being adapted they totally ignore Oda’s wishes and story? I very much doubt it. It’s simply Lu/Na shippers needing a villain for why things don’t look the way they want in the added anime moments, which are supposed to be extended filler based on the manga material and characters’ personalities. Of course they might not get it all right when making the anime, but I very much doubt they are adding things for some targeted reason towards shippers. (Though, again, pandering does exist to some extent where it might work in line with the characters).

In my opinion there are fillers added that are both positive and negative in regards to most fans’ views of the characters. But they are there to fill gaps, and to prolong the anime. Some are extensions of scenes Oda wrote, others are complete AU’s like the Edo Historical Special fillers. But it’s still going to be based on how the writers, producers and directors have interpreted the characters in the manga. Often that will mean things like more exaggerated gags or rehashed stories with new filler characters or the existing scenes getting more “flare”. 

Of course at times the anime does very stupid additions that doesn’t always make sense, but even so the manga is still their source material. Though of course they only know what already is and not what Oda is planning to write. Hence we can sometimes see things lean more into what is going on in the current arc sometimes. Like in the 3rd movie when Sanji says he wants to be a prince, likely because of his Mr. Prince portrayal in Alabasta happening close to the movie being made, despite this clearly going against canon now years later when we know he is a prince and doesn’t like his heritage at all.

If Lu/Na shippers say Toei adds more shippy moments for SaNa than Lu/Na then it’s likely because Toei thinks it’s more in line with Sanji and Nami as characters compared to with Luffy. In the end though, filler is filler, and what Oda writes is what truly matters.

Personally I think the portrayal of Sanji and Nami is better in the manga compared to the anime (as most things) and never has filler been a reason for me personally to ship them or think they could become canon. It’s simply added moments, sometimes they are nice and other times not so nice. I know many other SaNa shippers are the same. I wanted to say this because too many times I see anti SaNa fans say those that ship them together must not read the manga. Trust me, we do.

But who knows, maybe I am the salty and biased one and Toei is actually pro Sa/Na against the will of Oda.

As for your second question I touched on it veeeery briefly in THIS POST speaking a little about SaNa in Wano. But I must admit this question is a lot more difficult to me than the first one. Especially since you ask about Nami’s feelings manifesting in particular and also asking for a prediction. 

Honestly I don’t think we have gotten anything major from Nami herself except her worry and involvement in Sanji’s story during Zou and WCI. We got a few moments in Wano as well, like Sanji carrying her again, protecting her and of course the “Take care of my Nami-san” line. For me it’s the possible changes in Oda’s writing of Sanji and Nami and some of Sanji’s interactions and reactions to Nami that makes me think feelings from Nami’s side might be slowly developed and could appear in some form further ahead.

I know you said “recent arcs” but I hope you will allow me to go back a bit to other arcs as well to explain what I mean.

In my opinion I don’t think it’s impossible that Oda has escalated Sanji and Nami’s interactions and highlighted their interest and worry of each other for a long time now. Of course it’s always been there, even back in Arlong Park, Drum Island, Skypiea and of course Enies Lobby and Thriller Bark. Often Oda has paired the two together or at least made one chase or help the other. As Oda once put it, after he draws Nami it’s simply natural that Sanji follows (Watch video at 46.40). And this might be partly a joke, but we also know it’s true and we have many good interactions between them in most arcs.

What I think is that during Fishman Island, Punk Hazard and Dressarosa Oda started the more obvious set up with Sanji for Whole Cake Island and what was to come with his family and backstory. What Oda did before WCI with Sanji was to set up and remind the readers of four things in particular; his kindness, his doubt in his value to the crew as more than a chef (as part of his sacrificial nature), his chivalry and lastly even his character's “chance” for romance. I think Oda brought back these things to remind us clearly who Sanji is and what he is about before his fate during Zou and WCI was revealed. The fact that Oda has used Sanji in two romantic plots with first Viola and then Purin and with both of them ending up liking him despite their initial goal and them turning to the aid of the strawhats because of him says a lot on its own.

So why does this matter for the development of SaNa? Well, first of all Sanji was clearly seen leaving both these women behind for Nami in particular. We even saw Purin’s reaction to SaNa specifically. Of course one could say it’s simply to foreshadow Purin liking Sanji and it being read as jealousy, but in the end it’s still Oda drawing Sanji with Nami happily in his arms after everything they have been through.

I’ve said it before but I don’t think Oda keeps making moments like this at random. Nami has been there in several pivotal moments for Sanji, and she and Sanji have in many instances been placed together to add to the other’s story or highlight the other’s character traits. For many of the plot set-ups with Sanji prior to WCI Nami was there to explain or show it to us readers.

For example saying Yonji is nothing like Sanji or through her doubting the Sanji clone is really him due to him not helping them.

Other characters also mention often how kind Sanji is and honestly I think people need to remember that this is a trait Oda sees in Sanji and keeps mentioning. I say this because in the WCI arc in particular Oda portrays Sanji as a good potential love interest and a very good person in general. A lot of anti-SaNa fans seem to think Nami sees no positive traits in Sanji, despite Oda writing Nami saying good things as direct opinions from her that she has about Sanji. Clearly she sees a lot of good in him despite his flaws and Oda had her point it out clearly.

We also know Sanji has risked or straight out sacrificed himself for Nami many times, but she has most times not seen it or even known about it. Of course she cares about her nakama and Nami has been used in this way before (and with other crewmembers as well), but even so I think Oda’s focus on Nami in particular is there to clearly show us her image of him before everything unfolds in the Zou and WCI arcs after. He is someone she can trust and depend on, a savior and protector, and she doesn’t want to see him get hurt.

We even got Nami coming out of hiding in Zou because she was worried. Not to mention she willingly goes to a Yonkou territory for Sanji’s sake, and actually she is insisting on following despite being told no at first. She also defends Sanji against Zoro and gets offened on his behalf and is in general the main driving force behind going to save Sanji.

Another rather subtle change from Oda (though noticable amongst SaNa shippers for sure) is the increased amount in touching between Sanji and Nami. Something that has been seen through several cases in WCI, and that continued on to Wano as well though most of it was Sanji carrying many people at the same time.

I also think WCI could have been a turning point for Nami’s feelings even though she isn’t showing it openly yet. Maybe she will keep being tsundere about it until the end, or maybe she isn’t really aware of her own feelings herself yet. I could also be reading things wrong. But I don’t think we should underestimate Oda adding one sign of Sanji seeing mutual affection, one joke about a proposal and a possessive claim of Nami being “his”. Because Oda likely won’t write something like this for no reason, and though two of them are hidden behind gags, it’s a change compared to earlier moments that are similar. 

I am actually writing a small theory on this and how Sanji might sense Nami’s feelings slowly changing for him through his observation haki. I would love to talk about it more because I think this could be Oda’s way of changing things very slowly without making it obvious, but I kinda think it needs a post of its own.

I think that either Oda will keep adding these small types of moments but not really commit to making anything official until the very end, or if we are lucky, he will write more to build on the conflict in WCI and what Nami knows about Sanji to add some bigger moments between them. But I doubt any of it will be any type of confirmed relationship as I don’t think Oda will want to change the strawhat dynamics until the series is ending.

(Though Purin coming back is also likely happening and I think that is definitely going to show us if Oda has intentions for San/Pu to develop to something more or not.)

Anyways, to sum it up I think Oda’s way of writing SaNa and adding more touch and things like that between them is a sign for SaNa to possibly happen further ahead. But I think Nami is still either tsundere or maybe even unaware of her feelings, and Sanji is sensing them but letting things stay the way they are. I think Oda might be stalling so he doesn't have to write actual romance or change their interactions too much. Does that make sense? So Nami’s feelings are right now mostly manifesting through Sanji sensing them change slowly, basically. Hence comments like “My Nami-san” only happening in Wano despite Sanji being the way he is since the very beginning. At the very least Oda has definitely given SaNa a lot of great looking moments in the New World and I hope he will keep it up.

I could probably go into more details or examples, but I hope I kind of answered your question at least. I know I wrote a lot more about the first topic, but like I said that was a lot easier and more straightforward.

I hope this was all an interesting read for you. Either way I want to say thanks for asking it though, because I had a lot of fun writing this.

[ronnieloveskorn]

Introduction post!!!!

Hi!! We are a DID system and are 15 y/o bodily. we go by ronnie primarily on this account, but the alter who uses the account the most goes by doll and uses she/her!!!

We will be posting stimboards and character boards, so request some! Im okay with any fandoms! if im not comfortable with something, ill add it to my dni here :)

Im okay with any asks really, im just here to be a silly guy :3

Dni ;; Endo-genic systems , any type of discorse , dteam fans , any nsfw (moreso p*rn, gore is on VERY thin ice as long as its art.) , any meanies , proshipping / comshipping

Examples of my character boards,, will be posted on their own later!!

Thats it :) have a good day lovelies !!

[rammonymous]

@schlittymilk is me btw under a different email and blog

WSS, chances youve interacted with me already and don't know it as i keep my side blogs seperate from one another

Heat Break Trio fan, but i like Sweater, Pumpkin and TnT duos of corse they are my dads

DSMP (and lesserly QSMP) are my source, DSMP is my home. Id never dare move on.

"Endo I dont get paid enough to care nor do i get paid at all to preform an opinion for you", though this sentiment can be and is held for near all drama and discorse.

And yes, my name sake is my favorite gamersups flavor. Its pretty ok. My favorite rammies are Midnight, Classic and Stranger Things.

[spiltambrosia]

Leads into a chat with Hermes more directly about thoughts on gods in media.

I was so afraid to listen epic! The musical because I didn't want to offend Poseidon.

A friend of mine/student pointed out he wouldn't care so I went ahead and then tumblr ruined it for me lol

I cannot stand some of the people and the way they talk about the gods, I just can't stand it anymore, but the gods themselves are actually pretty humored by the media at least and don't seem to care about the fans too much, Hermes even sat with me and explained why

I can't recall everything but it translates to something like this...

(Paraphrased from memory)

Hermes: "you have to realize we don't operate like that, there isn't really a set good or evil spectrum, I mean if you applied the one you used to belive I would be a horrible person! A liar, their, cheat? How could I POSSIBLY be redeamed?" He gasped and put a hand on his chest, he's always so expressive

"Well back in the day, theater was used as a more, but not entirely, spiritually driven activity typically in revrence to the gods, basically this has been happening to some degree since the start.

People just used to ask us more directly for our input and respect that....but in any case the point is art represents a lot of aspects of us, the good, the bad, the ugly, and because Zeus is a god who values preservation of history and unique viewpoints he dosnt really give a shit if that girl across the street thinks he's horrible because she read a comic. He's kinda got more important things to do...and she never bothered to actually know him, so shes just some one who dislikes an aspect of him that may or may not have been portrayed properly"

"So we don't really care too much. Well, I do some times, but Apollo says I shouldn't get so caught up in the discorse"