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i think it's so funny that sqq is so soothed by binghe's supposed obedience because binghe literally does whatever the hell he wants for 100% of the novel. if shizun tells him to do something else he says okay shizun ^___^ and then continues to do whatever he was going to do regardless. it just happens that their intentions line up most of the time. binghe is not going to stop doing this because he knows full well if he sits pretty and agrees he will still get scratched under the chin and told how good he is even if he then goes and blatantly does the opposite of whatever sqq wanted
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The thing with stories of any type is that everything is a translation. Sometimes literally, from the author's own head, from another language, from book to TV.
Then there's things like visual metaphors, props and fake backgrounds, set pieces, onomatopoeia, paragraphs of description that everyone will visualise slightly differently, animated contortions, unrealistic but helpful sound effects, camera angles to emphasise mood.
In fantasy or scifi settings you can't even assume they're speaking the language you do. That their culture is exactly what's shown and nothing more.
So much of what makes up good world building is shorthand, is making it work to the audience, is using something in the right context rather than digging up every detail that would make or break the illusion.
A character in a magical world, or even simply a non English speaking country, would not use the same curse words. Leather could be presumed to be cow but could just as easily be any number of bizarre creatures. Booking a hotel could require a very different system to one we're used to. Champagne, the word, wouldn't exist without France but it carries the meaning of expensive alcohol for celebrations and parties, the readers would understand what it means.
Tolkien did it with LOTR and it was a masterpiece. The prevalent themes of dark and light being mere shorthand for expansive good and evil, used to convey the messages it needed rather than entirely new words the readers wouldn't intuit? The characters not even going by their actual names? A whole entire conlang that never even gets mentioned in the actual story??? That's a man who has a grasp on how tightly interconnected the world, history and culture all reflect each other. I mean of course he did, it was his job, but what he did was nothing short of fantastical.
All this to say, I believe this is the root of all world building. Cohesive, well balanced, feasible, detailed-but-not-too-much, no words that'd break a reader's/viewer's immersion, expansive enough, realistic, resonant, coherent, believable. All of it, whether fantastical or realistic, stems from one thing.
Is this a good translation of what you had in your head?
#All of this and it's a post about how people occasionally have svsss characters swear which is great for making them feel alive#But it's also a pretty big plot point that Sqq caught sqh out as being from another universe entirely after hearing one (1) f bomb#Of course neither Sqq nor sqh would be saying that PARTICULAR word because they're Chinese but that's the literal irl translation lmao#That's what I mean though!! *slaps desk* isn't it so cool??#In cartoons and animation when backgrounds change and people get big heads when yelling and lightning crackles#The characters aren't actually seeing that. That's just the way it's (emotion) being conveyed to the viewer.#It can be a weird way to think of it because they're not real they're not seeing anything lmao but it's massively helpful#If you want to make your own thing or struggle to reconcile an immerse breaking moment in media.#Lampshading is a perfect example of this. There's always going to be cracks in the immersion mask - how are they dealt with?#svsss#world building#worldbuilding#story writing#story ideas#writing#fiction
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wait. since im on my svsss/hlvrai kick. cumplane as the chuck e cheese debate
#there's a lot of people on this video and idk which characters would be who#but i know sqq would be mira (blue text)#and sqh would be wayne (white text)#sqq in sqh's comments going YOU'RE ALL DUMBER THAN ME#every time i rewatch this video it cracks me up all over again oh my god#I think about ''your house is a grain silo :)'' all the time#and ''THAT'S REAL LETTUCE THAT THEY BOUGHT FROM A F A R M''
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I have this idea for an SVSSS fic where SQQ winds up regularly sharing dreams with both his LBH and OGLBH. I'd need to do a reread for it but I'm gonna post the broad strokes because I can't stop rotating it in my mind.
It's Abyss time but SQQ puts his foot down. No he's not pushing his Binghe into the Abyss, shut up System. Oh you're going to kill him? Then do it.
Then he throws his sword away and pulls LBH away from the Abyss.
SQQ: Ok honey I'm maybe about to drop dead but it's not your fault ok?
LBH: WHAT???
And then the System does indeed try to rip SQQ's soul out- except LBH, right there and terrified, mentally grabs hold of his Shizun's soul and won't let go.
MQF rolls up to a fucking nightmare, SQQ is in the process of having his soul ripped out by some kind of mystery curse? LBH is burning through his own supply of qi to stop it but that's a napkin on a stab wound- Liu Qingge put your sword down right now! Yes MQF can see LBH's part demon, now help him keep SQQ alive or fuck off - you too Sect Leader!
Meanwhile the System is glitching out, and decides to initiate a Punishment Protocol because this mess is all SQQ's fault and he won't die like a good user.
So it dumps him in the dreams of OGLBH, who's just been pushed in the Abyss by his own Shizun.
Faced with a very upset teen Binghe, SQQ does the only thing that he can. He hugs that boy and tells him none of this is his fault and he didn't do anything wrong.
It probably only works because OGLBH is very upset and desperate for comfort- and when OGLBH said "SQQ??" incredulously SQQ says "No, I'm sorry I know I look like him" and this man doesn't act like the SQQ he knows at all, and he gives really good hugs.
SQQ is stuck in OGLBH's dreams when he's not just... nowhere and after a few more short hug sessions (OGLBH can't usually sleep for long) OGLBH finally asks who exactly SQQ is then?
Right around this time MQF figures out how to stabilize SQQ without requiring LBH to be awake and actively channeling qi the whole time. So LBH passes the f out and goes to look for his Shizun, turning up right when SQQ is dreaming with OGLBH.
After a little Binghe stand off SQQ sits them both down and decides to just, tell them everything -he can here, the System can't stop him and it's already killing him what else can it do?
So he tells them about parallel universes, and his own original world, about Proud Immortal Demon Way, and his decision, upon waking up in his favorite book in the villian's body, to meddle every way he could. He tells them about the System and explains that it probably sent him here thinking OGLBH would hurt him, thinking he was OGSQQ. Everything.
Eventually MQF and a bunch of other cultivators untangle SQQ from the System, letting his soul come back to his body but leaving that door open between his mind and OGLBH's.
From there I just have ideas I'd want to explore, some of my favorites:
-OGLBH finding out about Without a Cure and that SQQ isn't telling his Binghe about the easy fix and having to decide if he's going to spill the beans or not.
-Every time I think about what to do with SQH I wind up thinking about what would probably be a whole side fic of court wranglings, political assassinations and interspecies dating drama after SQH runs away to hide with MBJ when SQQ wakes up and goes "you're cursed too right?"
-Both Binghes and their Meng Mos coming along on SQQ's scenic tour of SJ's traumatic backstory (I just need SQQ to hug that little tea-soaked Binghe only for him to split into the two older Binghes because when they entered this memory both of them inhabited the baby Binghe's avatar)
- The whole sect deciding that actually LBH is their half demon son and none of the other sects better even look at him funny. (The biggest reason for this might be SQQ waking up from being cursed and immediately threatening to kill everyone in the room and then himself if anything happens to LBH even though he can't even sit up. Also like, the kid's been crying nonstop for days now, not exactly scary demon behavior. Kid needs a hug and some juice)
-A very fraught conversation when OGLBH gets out of the Abyss where he tells SQQ he's going back to the mountain and SQQ refuses to ask him not to kill everyone because he knows exactly what OGLBH suffered at the hands of those alternate versions of the people SQQ loves.
-Every now and the the Binghes just meet up to hiss at each other like angry cats
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Au where SQH messes up a little too much during their head disciple days and System punishes him not with death, but by ripping him of his personality and memories, leaving him a husk of his former self. For years, the mountain has tried to fix him but to no avail, Mobei—Jun kidnapped him and forced his underlings to fix SQH but
Nothing worked. Eventually, An Ding Peak worked without a Peak Lord, and they all mourned for SQH’s technical death/disappearance.
When SY appeared as a disciple of SQQ and helped to fix his relationships with everyone, aka SQQ and LQG become bffs, YQY reconciles with SQQ
And SQQ started to treat LBH better, he still calls him little beast though, but anyway,
Despite that, the cliff scene still happens because the system wants tragedy, and now SY stresses out alone for the next few years, vaguely remembering the plant body
The plot still continues, meanwhile while they’re both dead for a while, when the peak lords found out SQH’s body was in Mobei—Jun’s palace, they tried for years to get both SQH’s and SQQ’s body
And more of the plot happens
And eventually, SY and LBH get together and there’s a happy ending for them, until SY remembers that he’s never once seen the An Ding peak lord,
He’d felt unnerved when MBJ was the one who invaded instead of the rhino, but he didn’t have time to question it
He asks YQY about which leads him to asking LBH to asking MBJ if he would let SY to talk to SQH’s body. MBJ only lets him go inside because LBH mentioned how knowledgeable SY was about various things.
MBJ protectively stays in the room, LBH stays to protect SY
—
“Shang Qinghua?” He says aloud, staring at the traitor spy cautiously. He didn’t really understand why MBJ was protective of the man, though he supposed it’s because SQH couldn’t have betrayed him in this timeline if he was just a husk.
Still, he wondered, what changed? Why had SQH lost his soul? Was it like… Him? Was the system preparing for another transmigrator? But YQY said that he’d been in a sort f a coma for years! Why would the system wait this long?
Suddenly, the system beeped
[Would User 02 like to free User 01 from his punishment?]
!!!
User 01?? What!? System!??? You can’t use spring that up on him without context??!?
[Would User 02 like context?]
YES PLEASE??
[User 01 transmigrated here as a baby! Unfortunately, User 01 lost too many points! Too much OOC! So the System has inflicted punishment on User 01!]
This is… so severe! Shen Yuan frowned and kneeled down to his level. His heart churned for the former user, he didn’t think there could have been such a severe punishment.
“Who was he…?” He murmured, not noticing that the two demons in the room was heard. MBJ restrained himself from responding, it hurt to remember the small little human that vowed to follow him for all his like.
[User 01’s USER ID is Airplane Shooting Towards The Sky!]
“…”
“You..” MBJ gritted out after a long silence of SY staring at the body, it was getting irritating. It also unnerved him. He wasn’t doing anything, but he seemed to reach a level of understanding that no one else could.
Still, LBH gave him a look, even if he was also doubting SY’s actions a little, “Have patience.”
This time, SY took care to say it in his head.
‘Can’t you free him from his punishment?? It’s been years! The plot is practically over now! Just—! He doesn’t deserve this suffering!’
[The System thought User 02 hated User 01 for writing Proud Immortal Demon Way OwO]
‘That doesn’t mean I want him to live as a husk of his former self! He had a life! The peak lords never described him as a bad person! What would it take for you to give his life back!?]
[Hm…]
What do you mean HMM?!?!?
[Analysing.]
[Analysing.]
[Analysing.]
[Congratulations! Congratulations! Congratulations! Good things must be said three times! Due to User 02 managing to complete the plot, the System will reward User 02 by freeing User 01 for free! No points will be deducted! The data of User 01 ; Shang Qinghua will be transferred slowly!]
Shen Yuan only sighed in relief and stepped back when he spotted Airplane’s soul flowing back into his body.
He didn’t wake immediately, it’s been far too long for that, but he saw two light streams of tears running down his cheeks, barely breathing as his body worked up to becoming functional.
Mobei Jun gasped and rushed to his side, his cold hands freezing the tears, but he never stopped holding SQH’s body closely.
#svsss#my post#svsss au#shen qingqiu#Shen Qingqiu is not Shen yuan#Shen yuan disciple au#shen yuan#Shen jiu#shang qinghua#i haven’t read the entire svsss#I watched the show#svsss fanfiction#headcanon#mobei jun#luo binghe#using hand wavy things to talk about the plot#I have bad memory guys…#I’d be fine with it if someone decides to take up the au idea lols
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Much as I love the idea of PIDW being rife with terrible porn tropes and interesting (if contrived) erotic writing conventions, all actual evidence in canon would seem to indicate that apart from some sex pollen and "uh oh, the protagonist has gone into a fugue state, whatever shall calm him down?" type stuff, it was fairly vanilla.
Like, that's part of both Shen Yuan and Airplane's frustration with it, I think. It's full of sex and it's not even sex either of them enjoy the concept of. Airplane was fully just trying to pander to an audience he felt he knew and could manipulate, but not one either he nor his ultra mega hate reader were actually part of.
Not that they understood that themselves at the time.
I mean I know fandom likes to make Airplane less closeted than Shen Yuan (for a lot of reasons), which I support, but I feel like in canon at least... he didn't cotton on to Luo Binghe's change in interests at first either. It wasn't until he was watching his protagonist obsess over resurrecting Shen Qingqiu at any cost that the light started to dawn. For Shang Qinghua, also, many more years have passed since he was back in their original world. He's had more time to reconcile himself to certain ideas.
What glimpses we get of the person he was before he died, was reborn, and lived a whole other life well into adulthood, would seem to indicate that he probably wasn't much better than Shen Yuan back when he was writing.
I mean he probably was still BETTER (the bar is on the floor), like I bet he could have a fantasy featuring Mobei Jun without having an existential crisis or pretending it didn't happen, but he would have probably been like "wow I guess I've been writing so much m/f porn that I can't even enjoy it anymore and my brain had to come up with something else, anyway Mobei would make a hot chick tho, I'm gonna write one of his cousins as Binghe's next wife" and gotten on with things.
Basically I guess what I'm driving at is that it would be funny if SQQ and SQH figured they had a solid handle on the kinds of sex pollen-y porn tropes to expect from the world (mostly just the occasional fuck-or-die that missionary can cure), only for the rug to get ripped out from under them because the system incorporated a bunch of stuff from Airplane's subconscious to fill out the gaps. Not even his notes. His daydreams and fantasies.
SQQ: what the hell?! PIDW didn't even have werewolves or tentacle porn monsters!
SQH, suddenly reminded of some very specific fap sessions: right?! this is definitely weird and in no way my fault! it must be because of the genre switch!
SQQ: *suspicious*
SQH: which is your fault! you made the protagonist gay! in fact it's probably your fault that I'm gay too now!
SQQ: bullshit. what did you do. was this in a draft?!
SQH: *sweating* I can say with absolute confidence that it was not! I never wrote anything like this!
SQQ: *having a crisis now because maybe he DID accidentally cause the monsterfucker stuff and he desperately doesn't want anyone to realize that he's actually into it*
SQH: *continuing to sweat because the world is consistently manifesting content from his personal spank bank and if cucumber ever figures that out he's a dead man*
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I wanted to answer this question: (it's only a speculation)
"How intense is Luo Binghe love for the original Shen jiu and why is he so damn fixitated him for is it his looks or personality lol ? I'v read so many fics of Shen yuan identity reveal with Luo binghe and the peaklords that always ended positively but do you think it'd be the same in the canonverse? Like if Shen yuan were to reveal he wasn't the original would they react positively or negatively?"
I think 1st thing he feel in love was SJ's looks
"Shang Qinghua: “What was your first impression of the other person?”
Luo Binghe continued to reminisce and lightly said: “An aloof and remote, distant and untouchable immortal.”
then he started to do anything to gain SJ's attention/favor... He befriended with SJ's favorite disciple NYY, even if she always got him in trouble, then after he was pushed down to the abyss he realized that SJ would never return his feelings so he decided to destroy him, meanwhile he started to cope with it and started to pretend that SJ was a scum villain who couldn't love anyone but himself (that's probably why he never seen SJ's memories even if he was able to do so) and when YQY died he and SJ's reaction finally shattered his illusions...
Well, in my opinion, you pretty much nailed it. Especially keeping in mind the original intentions of Airplane to write PIDW as a yaoi novel with SJ (SQQ) and LBH as a OTP.
P.S.: Apparently I better quote the text of SVSSS, chapter 81 to be precise, to avoid ignorant comments. There's a huge misunderstanding going on in the English-speaking segment, probably dew to an English translation of SVSSS. Some readers are mislead by two quotes, that they take as a contradictory, which in truth, they are NOT.
The first one is from a Chapter "The story begins". It is the last chapter of the novel, after this the extras start. And this particular chapter is a culmination: this is where the truth is reveled. Like in a detective story, where we finally find out, who the killer is. This meant to become a real "bomb", that makes a reader go WOOOW!!! And this is THE KEY for understanding the whole story: the plot and the characters, especially Luo Bing-mei (and Luo Bing-ge). And speaks about the intentions of the Airplane. (original scrapped outline(c))
The second quote on the other hand speaks of an EXISTING PIDW. (original outline(c))
The first quote, from the final chapter:
Shen Qingqiu looked him up and down. “You don’t look crushed at all after all this foolish messing around ended up completely changing your own novel.”
Shang Qinghua said, “You can’t say it like that ah. Maybe you think it’s just all foolish messing around that isn’t worth a damn, but for Bing-ge, your foolish messing around is probably the meaning of this entire world.”
... holy s***, Great God Airplane Shooting Towards the Sky was able to say something like that?!
Shen Qingqiu was terrified. “F***. You didn’t turn back into the original character, did you?”
Shang Qinghua said seriously, “Don’t be like that. I’m also a young person with literary ideals. Of course, I have my own reflections and emotions.”
Shen Qingqiu laughed coldly. “What literary ideals? How come all I saw in the original work was shameless fanservice?” Not to mention his hand speed that could produce ten thousand words a day, and the courage to even occasionally explode with twenty thousand. If he didn’t have such equipment, there was no way 《Proud Immortal Demon Way》 would have been able to hold out before it was serialized!
Shang Qinghua spread his hands. “You think that I always wrote shameless content that lacked any integrity from the very start? I’ve also written belles-lettres4 before, but they were all unpopular, so I had no choice but to go down a path that catered to the masses. It must be said that writing novels is a very lonely undertaking. Rather than writing a stallion male protagonist who’ll be stereotypical in the end, it’s more in line with my philosophy for writing to create the current Bing-ge━this kind of weirdo male protagonist whose character is a bit more complicated, has contradictions and conflicts, and has a rough destiny.”
Shen Qingqiu concluded, “So, your philosophy for writing is to write about gay guys?”
Shang Qinghua: “Do you look down upon gay male protagonists? Works of art and artists all like to create gay guys. Belles-lettres favors gays, do you know that?”
He waved his arms wildly and passionately. “Cucumber Bro, if the System hadn’t chosen you, this faithful die-hard reader, perhaps the plot wouldn’t have deviated so thoroughly, thoroughly to the point that it deviated all the way back to my original scrapped outline. Even though the me back in reality━who couldn’t endure the loneliness and was under financial pressure━chose to finish writing 《Proud Immortal Demon Way》 according to other people’s preferences and what they found cool... now, all thanks to you, essentially everything that I wanted to write has already unfolded in front of my eyes. Cucumber Bro!”
He patted Shen Qingqiu’s shoulders with deep sentiment and solemnity. “You... are the chosen one; as for my career, I have no more regrets!”
... why did it sound like the System and this world were both products of Shang Qinghua’s resentment over scrapping that outline and going with what was mainstream?
Shen Qingqiu, who shamefully became this kind of “chosen one”: “Who’s your faithful die-hard reader?”
Shang Qinghua waved his hand and one-sidedly declared his victory. “I’m not going to talk to you; you’re an anti-fan.”
Shen Qingqiu was about to say, “I’m only an anti, not a fan!” when he suddenly heard Shang Qinghua starting crooning something like, “Emotions are warm, kindness hard to bear, lips moving together, desires turning the evening to the next morning, never resting from dawn to dusk.” The crucial point was that melody, which sounded extremely familiar to the point that it made Shen Qingqiu’s hands and teeth itch. He pointed at him and said, “Shang Qinghua, what are you singing?”
Shang Qinghua continued to croon. “The warmth of emotions makes gratitude hard to bear. Lips to lips, locked in a kiss. Let this night linger ‘til tomorrow’s dawn. Day after day, night after night; never to end. Will tomorrow be another today? When ‘til Zheng Yang reaches its zenith? As Zheng Yang ascends, the voice of Autumn stirs. A sheathless Xiu Ya, a spurt of cold nectar. Tragic pleas amidst choked sobs, thus in vain; for he rises again5...”
Shen Qingqiu was in disbelief. “F*** you—why don’t you just try and sing another line?”
Shang Qinghua said, “Great Lord Shen, why aren’t you listening to what I’m saying? You must never go around casually f***ing people. Bing-ge will go crazy. I’m telling you, this Resentment of Chunshan is equivalent to Shi Ba Mo6. You two are the legendary national homos, do you understand? I have no problems with you shutting me up, but ultimately it’s useless. You can’t possibly make all the countless people in the world shut up...”
The second quote, from the extras: "
System: 【Basic accomplishment of《Proud Immortal Demon Way》’s original outline, slight deviation of romance plot, objective accomplished. Function to return to original world download complete. Activate return home sequence?】
Basic accomplishment of the original outline, that he agreed with, all the holes which needed to be filled were filled. But, this “slight deviation of romance plot” isn’t quite right. Bing-ge is gay no━how can you say this is a “slight deviation”? Ay okay, okay. In fact, in his original outline, Bing-ge didn’t have a romance plot; he was doomed to fade away, alone and unaging forever. If you insist on adding a plotline, that’s whatever, but he’s wasted this many words… you mean he can return to his original world?!?!"
The second quote is very poorly translated into English. What it actually means, is that Bing-ge does not have ANY SIGNIFICANT RELATIONSHIP, LOVE. Nothing to do with he amount of partners he fucks. And yes - the ending for the tyrant he became in PIDW is not happy in a slightest. This is how his relationship with the harem is described by the PIDW reader's forum in the novel:
"Airplane really doesn’t know how to write romance plotlines, best if he just doesn’t. I feel like Luo Binghe doesn’t have feelings for any of his wives, he just wants to use them. And I can’t see any of those women with real moving emotion for him. "
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parting shot "you know you can do better than this"
my gift to tshirt for winning my raffle!
#lesbingqiu#bingqiu#shen qingqiu#shen yuan#luo binghe#binghe#lbh#sqq#fem!shen qingqiu#fem!luo binghe#f!sqq#f!lbh#genderswap#rule 63#goth trans butch binghe#cursed scum villain academia au#svsss#scum villain#i watch movies now#wanted to do something kinda cinematic#like star wars episode three revenge of the sith#(lmao)
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it's impossible to convince people to read scum villain unless you know them like the back of your hand because how do you tell a stranger that the ml holding the mc's corpse hostage and keeping it as lively as possible with qi is actually very heartwarming and tragic within the context of the story. you sound crazy
#sqq really was like. my poor sweet baby he was so lonely i can't take it :(#they're so . weird#they were made for each other in some cosmically fucked up weird way. they have to be together so no one else has to date either of them#t#svsss#f
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f!sqq in pretty clothes
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Shang Qinghua is one of the SV characters I can most relate to purely in terms of also being a writer. I know that a lot of the stuff I want to write won’t end up being super popular (a romance with a purposefully unsexy vampire? a story between an m/f best friend pair with a really deep emotional bond and no romance? come on) and publishing is a nightmare anyway. But the difference is that I don’t plan to make a living off my writing. Poor SQH does. So if he wants to do fun things like pay his bills and eat food every day, he has to pander to the big audience.
He’s written other things that weren’t PIDW. Things that weren’t trashy stallion novels. Things he might’ve had a passion for and put his heart into. No dice. So PIDW it is and my god I can’t imagine how annoying and frustrating it is that the one work that you purposefully sold out on so you can, yknow, survive, is the only one that got big. It got really big. Really popular. That’s gotta be so fucking enraging. Imagine that, you think sitting down to write something you like is hard? Try to pump out a few thousand words of some crap you don’t even like every day, crap that you know had potential if following your actual ideas and plans for the characters would allow you to pay rent. Alas. The characters you lovingly crafted are watered down now. No one cares that you came up with a really compelling backstory for this one villain, he did bad things and he got murdered and that’s all anyone wanted to see. Not a real story, not something you put love into
In a way I think that’s partly why he and SQQ became friends. I’m a writer, we like feedback. We like to hear what people think of the things we write, even negative feedback can be appreciated. So if you have this one guy who reads everything, comments frequently, and (most important) can see how absolutely shitty this work of yours is? Someone that also sees the wasted potential of this story? Gotta be worth something.
#svsss#shang qinghua#I get him bcus if I wrote some idfk what’s popular rn#some cliche trope filled garbage romantasy book and everyone devoured it up like no tomorrow#and that’s all anyone ever knew me for and no one wanted to read my other stuff that I actually liked writing#that would be sad! it would be damn near infuriating I’ll tell u what#I really like all the characters I make and their stories and know what I *am* their dad#I don’t even care if I write smth I like and it doesn’t sell well I expect that#it’s just that if I wrote some shlock to pander to a wider market and that got really big
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How much lesbingqiu is there?
Since exactly One (1) person asked for the femslash slash stats on my post about the proportion of hetswap in the bingqiu AO3 tag, I have obliged.
I used the bingqiu tag and filtered by F/F. Obviously many of these results are F/F side pairings with M/M bingqiu, so from there, I counted them by hand.
I excluded crossovers from my search criteria, but I did a separate search to include the fics tagged with both SVSSS and Scumbag System. At time of writing there were 257 and 18 fics respectively, or 275 total.
I have included fics with multiple pairings and polyships. Iirc this was only relevant to Bingliushen.
I counted collection fics that had at least one fembingqiu ficlet/chapter.
I included art posted to the archive.
I included podfics posted to the archive, and counted them and the fics they were based on as two separate works.
I am excluding fics where male characters' bodys or genitals are temporarily changed for a plot device but the characters maintained their original gender identity.
By these criteria, I counted 140 lesbingqiu fics on AO3. At time of data collection there are 7005 total fics in the bingqiu tag, meaning lesbingqiu makes up 0.01999% of the bingqiu tag
For funsies, I have also noted instances of trans bingqiu!
I am including fics where amab Shen Yuan Transmigrates into a cis woman and decides they're okay with this body in the trans category.
If gender was not mentioned in a fic I defaulted to cis.
I am lumping all iterations non-binary bingqiu into the trans category, including afab non-binary bingqiu.
Not all fics with trans characters are tagged as such, so I skimmed any fics I was unsure of, but I'm sure I inevitably missed some.
Cis bingqiu - 118 Trans SQQ x cis Binghe - 8 Trans Binghe x cis SQQ - 6 T4T bingqiu - 4 Monsterfucking body weirdness, gender fucky omegaverse, or high tier SQQ gender shenanigans that I didn't know how to categorize - 4
Reflections
WAY LESS THAN I THOUGHT??? I think my perception has been skewed by what a high proportion of my fandom friends are lesbians, and how often femslash AUs feature in our discussion.
Similarly, the fact that there are only four T4T fics was genuinely shocking to me-- I forget sometimes what a bubble I'm in lmao. I also noted that trans bingqiu was a more recent development, at least on AO3; the first fic I found to feature trans girl SQQ was from January of 2022.
I don't have exact numbers because I didn't think of it until halfway through, I noticed that in almost all the NSFW fics where just one of bingqiu was trans, the trans girl topped. This was an interesting mirror to the trend I've noticed where, in cases where just character is a trans man, he almost always bottoms. I'll shelve speculation about that for another post tho.
#This is the adult equivalent of counting my favorite rocks#some times you just want to count and/or sort things (normal neurotypical sentence)#svsss#luo binghe#shen qingqiu#genderswap#genderbend#lesbingqiu#bingqiu#fandom meta
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I feel like bingqiu (sqq to lbh) are the "Well, now I've gotta f*ck him." "You don't have t-" "No, I'm gonna f*ck him" meme.
#svsss#bingqiu#lbh#sy#sqq#sqq is so obsessed and he's just like “of course I'm obsessed! it's the law of the universe!”#but he's the only one still obsessed with lbh in his bingmei form#they are both obsessed with each other to an unhealthy degree and i love it
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Favorite WN Quotes - Bonus: MXTX
Quote A: Shi Wudu's Fate
“Everything I have today, I have fought for! I will fight for what I don't have. I will change fortune if fate denies me! My fate is up to me and not the heavens!” - Shi Wudu, Heaven Official’s Blessing
Quote B: SQQ's Period
“Shen Qingqiu panted, his heart flooding with tears-- his period was finally over!” - The Scum Villain’s Self-Saving System
Quote C: Maiden Luo Binghe
"To push him away at this moment would be like giving a young maiden-one who'd finally worked up the courage to call and brokenheartedly weep to an older sister fotlr comfort and encouragement-a face turning slap. It was really a bit cruel". - Shen Qingqiu’s narration, The Scum Villain’s Self-Saving System
Quote D: Not Interested
“Even if I like men, I don’t like all men, and I definitely don’t just go home with any man who waves at me. I’m not interested in your type.” - Wei Wuxian to Jiang Cheng, Grandmaster of Demonic Cultivation
Quote E: Difficult to Bear
“Hanguang-jun endured the wait for so many years, but even now, his efforts have come to naught. Not only does Sect Leader Lan have reason to be impatient—it is also difficult for those of us watching from the sidelines to bear." - Jin Guangyao, Grandmaster of Demonic Cultivation
Quote F: Wanted to Sleep with You
“Lan Zhan! Lan Wangji! Hanguang-jun! I...I genuinely wanted to sleep with you earlier!” - Wei Wuxian, Grandmaster of Demonic Cultivation
Quote G: Infinite Glory
“To me, the one basking in infinite glory is you; the one fallen from grace is also you. What matters is you, and not the state of you.” - Heaven Official’s Blessing
Quote H: Humanity
“Remember: when humans ascend, they are still human; when they fall, they are still human.” - Heaven Official’s Blessing
[Propaganda below]
Quote A: Shi Wudu's Fate
Submission: THE most badass delivering in all of danmei history!! Bro is literally faced with death, covered in blood! He Xuan asked him if he showed remorse and Shi Wudu was like 'bitch no, remorse isn't real!' Shi Wudu is a BAMF and we all should be appreciating him more!!
Quote B: SQQ's Period
Submission: Trans rights 🏳️⚧️
Quote C: Maiden Luo Binghe
Submission: this is the mc talking about the ml in a danmei.
Quote D: Not Interested
Submission: MC tries to escape an awkward situation by saying THIS to his estranged adopted brother, who doesn't know it's him but STRONGLY suspects it's him, and he says this BECAUSE HE THINKS HIS BROTHER WILL BE PERSONALLY OFFENDED BY THE THOUGHT THAT SOMEONE IN THE WORLD IS INTO SOMEONE ELSE MORE THAN THEY'RE INTO HIM. And he's RIGHT. it's so funny
Quote E: Difficult to Bear
Submission: tfw your sworn brother's brother's boyfriend doesn't know they're dating and it's SO agonising that you are compelled to interrupt your own hostage situation to chew him out (politely, of course)
Quote F: Wanted to Sleep With You
Submission: tfw you realize you're in love with your boyfriend and express it so poorly that the guy holding you at basically knifepoint lets you go out of pure shock. who is doing it like wei wuxian.
#tgcf#heaven official's blessing#svsss#the scum villain's self saving system#mdzs#grandmaster of demonic cultivation#mxtx#polls#wn quotes bonus polls#webnovel quotes tournament#my polls#queue#long post
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Bing-mei: "Shizun is so wise.... so sublime and mysterious! He is as restrained in the spring games as the celestials, even better!
SY/SQQ *brought up on public pages with alpha quotation, Internet sages generation X, And he's a millennial who has only seen naked people on you-know-what-sites*: If you fallen, get up, are you dying? f up.
(there should be a cool quotation from the pubs of 2010, but they are not translated into English with rhyme. by the way, I think SY even if he was born in China, he still grew up like in the West, well, like all sorts of Coca-Cola, Maincraft. idk)
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