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insanelyadd Ā· 2 years ago
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OKAY SO THE FRESH ANALYSIS
ME DEARLY BELOVED FOLLOWERS, you probably started wondering why I like Fresh so much. Why I have been lovingly rotating him in my mind like a rotisserie chicken.
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SO ANYWAYS I AM GOING TO DO MY BEST TO WRITE DOWN EVERYTHING Iā€™VE READ ABOUT HIM. This is not complete simply because I havenā€™t read EVERYTHING on the old RP blog CQ ran for him. This is also mostly from the perspective of his character so other facts like Fresh using he/they pronouns and having furby bombs and canonically liking kissing (okay actually that does play into his character slightly) wonā€™t be the primary focus of this analysis. This also, All, my own interpretation.
This analysis will be in three sections: His original characterization, his Monologue, and finally what could be inferred about how how his character changed due to the Event that gave us the Monologue.
His Original Characterization
The first thing you need to know about Fresh is that his goofy 90s persona was chosen specifically because they thought it would be non-threatening. This plays into a major part of his personality, which is that, baseline, everything he does is for survival. Once everything needed for that is met and taken care of the next major component is that he does whatever he wants to do to entertain himself.
He possesses people to live, but torments people on occasion (not too often, making enemies would go against the survival thing, unless heā€™s assessed that they would be a harmless enemy perhaps). All his weapons are innocuous at first glance to once again pass himself off as non threatening (oh hey the furby bombs come into play here, huh, he also uses a wiffle bat).
He doesnā€™t feel most emotions, but he can feel a few, (and at one point CQ said that the longer Fresh is in the same host the more he can feel? Not sure if that still applies, take that with a grain of salt) but those emotions are fear, anger, and amusement primarily (though affection and others are not off the table, it would just take A Lot of work for him to get to that point). Primarily his emotions that he portrays are all ones heā€™s imitating based on what he thinks are non threatening reactions. He easily pretends to be chipper or indignant but he doesnā€™t truly feel most of these emotions. According to posts written by CQ he is not genuinely flirty though him imitating ā€œsafeā€ emotions might put him in situations where he does that (most likely just to entertain himself, which is the primary reason he likes kissing. He doesnā€™t understand why kissing is meant to be important and does it because heā€™s amused by peopleā€™s reactions to it. Absolutely no thoughts [about kissing] behind those glasses.)
He is also very full of himself. He thinks heā€™s better than other people (but obviously he recognizes that as being a negative/ā€unsafeā€ thing to voice so he keeps it to himself and privately believes it). He thinks heā€™s better and deserves good things (this is directly stated in The Monologue), which is another reason he amuses himself by scaring people. ITā€™S IS ALSO A RESULT OF ANOTHER MAJOR COMPONENT OF HIS PERSONALITY: He has an ideology that people are primarily driven by selfishness. This is likely a direct result of him being a literal parasite who needs to harm others to live. He is really unable/unprepared to comprehend that people can care about others so much that they would put their loved ones before themselves. When this is challenged it typically makes him irrationally angry and ready to hurt people (even ones he ā€œpretendsā€ are his friends, and even though this contradicts his need to survive at any cost) to prove to them that they should never trust anyone. This is also why on occasion in a few comics CQ has done Fresh will offer up being possessed to desperate people with the lure that they wonā€™t feel pain anymore (which is implied to be a lie because people who can read souls and Fresh himself say they can hear the host screaming, possibly in agony).
THE MONOLOGUE
Okay so Iā€™m going to explain the events leading up to The Monologue, and then Iā€™m going to share the whole monologue here, then I will analyze it (plus here is the link to the post with the monologue and a more in-depth recap of events from Freshā€™s old RP blog)
There was a huge multi-blog RP event (these used to be very common, I donā€™t go to the RP scene anymore though so Iā€™m not sure if they stopped or I just stopped seeing them, basically a whole bunch of blogs get together to RP through one big common event, typically a party that they are all attending) called the LoveBall that Fresh went to with the plan to infect as many people as possible with parasites he produced and from there infect the whole multiverse (which he claims is to ā€œhelpā€ them all). Fresh directly states that heā€™s not a Sans here, even though this was before his redesign when he was still possessing one (STARES DIRECTLY AT EVERYONE CLAIMING I AM A SANS SIMP FOR LOVING FRESH).
Anyways he gets confronted by another Not Sans, who takes him to The Last Corridor (judgement hall) and Fresh is sure heā€™s going to die, though he still tries to act unbothered. They talk a bit and it is revealed to Fresh that he is a fictional character (he could see the whole multiverse was code too which is a fun detail), heā€™s clearly taken aback but still tries to play it off as itā€™s explained to him that him and the other Not-Sans and everyone theyā€™ve ever known are Nothing, and that it would be for the best if he doesnā€™t try to get OUR attention.
SO NOW WE COME TO THE MONOLOGUE ITSELF WHICH IS SO GOOD THAT I WANT TO EAT IT. Anyways:
ā€¦ā€¦.Iā€™ve thought about a lot of stuff lately. Ya know. All these inner thoughts I ignore or avoid listenin to. And I realized. Ya know. Maybe I wasnā€™t lookin to ā€˜help everyoneā€™. It was some excuse, ya know? I like messin with people. I like the concept that in some way, Iā€™m more clever, or amusing, or hilarious, or-ā€¦. simply put, Iā€™m BETTER then the rest of em. Iā€™m better and I deserve to get what I want, and I wanna mess with people and I want to hurt people, and since, ey, I gotta possess people to survive, I might as well ENJOY the process as well, ya know dawg? I wanted to take over the multiverse because yeah, it extended far beyond somethin so noble as ā€˜helpinā€™ people, I wanted to take over because I COULD, and because it was FUN, and because I couldnā€™t be STOPPED. I wanted the power to enslave EĶĢ·ĶVĶ€ĢØĶœEĶ Ķ ĢøRĢ”Ģ¢Ķ YĢøĶ¢ĶŸTŅ‰Ģ¢Ķ HĶĶœĶžIĢ“Ģ•Ķ€NĢ•Ģ”ĢØGĶ”. The power to enslave everything. But. I canā€™t do that. Can I?
BĢ·Ķ EĶ¢ĶĶ”CĶ ĶĢ•AĢØŅ‰Ķ€ĶĶ€UĢ”Ģ¢SĶ€ĶEŅ‰ĶĶ¢ĶŸ Ģ·ĶžĶœOĢ”ĶĢ¢FĢ¢ĶĢ§ Ģ¶YĢØĶ€ĶOĢ¢Ģ¢Ģ¢UĶ€Ģ¶Ķ”.Ģ›ĢØ ĶœĶœĢµRĶĢ·Ķ¢IĶ€ĶGĶĶĶžHĢ”ĶŸĢ”TĶĶž?ĶœĢ›Ķ  Youā€™re the voices Error hears. Arenā€™tcha. The voices Error always talks about. Always chats with. Youā€™re ONE OF THEM. BEYOND THE CODE. YOUā€™RE WHAT I WAS WARNED ABOUT. YOUā€™RE WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT. BEYOND ALL OF MY KNOWN EXISTENCE. BEYOND ā€˜THE GAMEā€™. Youā€™re toying with Error. Askin him questions. Weā€™re all your toys. Every single thing Iā€™ve seen, every Universe, every single creature Iā€™ve come across or possessed, every bit of dataā€¦. is something you are capable of manipulating, right? And now.I got your attention. Just like he warned me against.
ā€¦.y-ya know. I wonā€™t stop. Right. Iā€™m gonna keep possessin peeps, and runnin around and having a radical time.
Thatā€™s what you WANT, right?? Thatā€™s what youā€™re lookin for, to be amused, and have a laugh! Well youā€™re in luck! THATS WHAT THE FRESH IS HERE TO DO! No worries, my good ol chums!!Iā€™ll keep it up. Everything.
Right?? THATS WHY YOUā€™RE TALKING TO ME NOW. Right?? You are amused by me!!! Ah hahaha wicked brah! Iā€™m glad! Iā€™ll just- keepā€“
I-Iā€¦. Iā€™ll just. Keep up my dated lingo. Iā€™ll heelie right into every situation and make a joke of myself, and then when peeps drop their guard Iā€™ll do somethin creepy or hilariousā€“ OR BOTH! Ah hahahahahahaha. Thatā€™s what you want. THATS WHAT YOU WANT?
ā€¦.donā€™t kill me. Donā€™t kill me. Or worse. Whatever youā€™re capable ofā€¦.
Iā€¦ Iā€™ll do what you want!!
I PROMISE. justā€¦.just.
Donā€™t kill me. Please.
So one of my favorite details here in the monologue is the fact that it starts with him outright stating that he thinks heā€™s better than everyone else and it ends with him begging us not to kill him. His hubris hit an unmovable wall at 100 mph.
I really feel like the monologue speaks for itself, so onto the next part!
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Post Event Characterization Implications
So one of the things that could probably be inferred by this is that all three of his major motivators, His Need to Survive, His Want To be Entertained/Amused, and His Ideology of Selfishness are basically shoved into a blender. Iā€™m sure he still believes in inherent selfishness but his ego about it should be at least slightly bruised, knowing that heā€™s just as microscopic and inconsequential as anyone else in the multiverse. As for his need to survive and want to be entertained, theyā€™ve both been subverted to different extents. His want to be entertained is completely subverted where instead of being the one being entertained by bothering people, he is now the one wanting to do the entertainment because they believe it is necessary for their survival.
I imagine he is being eaten alive every day by the worry that heā€™s not being interesting enough and will be abandoned and effectively killed for not entertaining us enough. Though he might be able to push that out of his mind most of the time to continue what he normally does, because he might be able to convince himself that we have to like him for who he is to some extent or he wouldnā€™t have gotten this far, which seems very plausible given how good he is at hiding his fear and anxiety during his confrontation with the other Not-Sans.
Anyways heā€™s a bastard and heā€™s great and I am unfortunately in love with him. He probably wouldnā€™t be down for it but I will still imagine holding his hand and then picking him up and slam dunking him into a trash can (lovingly).
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astraldes Ā· 7 months ago
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Another year of a wonderful partnership (Happy birthday Ink!)
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the-cactus-taco Ā· 8 months ago
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I will forever love the idea of them being nerd ass boyfriends
Also, a little edit of errors reference which I did while listening to this Metaroom ļæ¼song:
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HEā€™S AN ANGEL TO ME DAMMIT!!
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somegrumpynerd Ā· 8 months ago
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(They did not stop shredding the curtains)
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gummi-ships Ā· 4 months ago
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Kingdom Hearts 3 - San Fransokyo
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juniemunie Ā· 10 months ago
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If we're not giving up, don't give up wherever you are.
That's a promise.
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sysig Ā· 10 months ago
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Recently had a silly Handplates dream where Papyrus was trying to snoop around Gaster and Alphysā€™ lab, but didnā€™t know who Alphys was and so was trying to pass it off as his own lab lol (Patreon)
#Doodles#Dream log#UT#Handplates#Papyrus#Gaster#Sans#Alphys#And also he was Big Brother Papyrus to a babybones Sans lol#I doodled them as close to the dream as possible so if it's silly or doesn't make sense take it up with my subconscious lol#I remember Gaster had a reputation for being very charming and charismatic which ?? Sure okay lol#He was also quite smiley - personally I read that as him putting on a face to the public but even that seems out of character for him lol#Everyone else was pretty much as usual - Alphys small and nervous and Papyrus loud and bombastic#I don't remember what exactly he was looking for - doubly weird 'cause I hadn't reread him and Sans exploring yet! :0#Just of them moving into their house - though I did read a bunch just before sleeping so safe to say I can attribute that lol#This was the only really clear part of the dream - the rest was just scrolling scrolling scrolling pages and pages of comic panels#Can't imagine why lol#Also intercut with some of the poses I ended up doodling before - surprise! They were dream doodles lol#Also in case it's not clear - Alphys was Very Much Present while Papyrus was trying to pass himself off as the name on the door lol#Oh yeah I'm pretty sure he was also speaking in WingDings thus why Alphys didn't immediately call him out lol#The room was quite cute actually - not at all the sterile grey of the True Lab#Warm and wooden with high windows nearly covered in clutter and paperwork with a desk in the middle lit by yellow light#Cozy#Barely evil-looking at all
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unknownarmageddon Ā· 4 months ago
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anyway,
cross belongs to jael peƱaloza killer belongs to rahafwabas chains and rings au belongs to @psycho-chair and @justanidiotartist!!!!!
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bad-sanses-smp Ā· 7 months ago
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error: reading intensely
horror: just walked in and about to drop the biggest lore info ever
kist:
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triglycercule Ā· 3 months ago
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if killer has differently sized eyes then does he blink like those lizards that have each eye blink abnormally. like the small eye has to be shut for a full second and then the big eye has to take a minute to blink. his blinks are delayed. they have their own timer. is this purposeful??? perhaps killer is doing it on purpose to freak people out and its just a really really really long running inside joke between himself and himself. or it could actually be srs and he can't blink synchronized. or he could use it to his advantage by like never having one eye closed ever. he'd never be held back by the disability that is blinking. AND it's a psychological trick on his enemy because they're weirded out like "why isnt this prick blinking normally"
does this make the top 20 dumbest triglycercule posts. i think this is a solid 12/20
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ancha-aus Ā· 3 months ago
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RealAgeAU Drabble - Curious Sight
What is this?! Two Drabbles?! @spotaus It is more likely than you think.
Mostly because i was REAL impressed you guys managed to keep it equal. like how? Also because i really wanted to do both so here you go! both!
This one is a lot shorter though hihi
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Just his luck.
Why did he have to have a favourite pie in a whole other universe?
The Toriel looks very apologetic ā€œI am very sorry. They just sold out very quickly this time. I will have new ones tomorrow morning!ā€
Blue smiles as he pushes down the disappointment ā€œIt is okay! I can always try again later.ā€
Toriel smiles before motioning towards the other goods she has for sale ā€œAnything else? The cupcakes are amazing today.ā€ she smiles.
Blue shakes his skull ā€œNo that is alright. Thank you so much for checking!ā€ he waves and leaves the small bakery.
He sighs as he stands outside.
Damnit.
His luck sucks today. He had hoped he could cheer himself up with some nice pie but it seems like they are out after all. Ugh. Then again, maybe it is his own fault for liking things outside his own universe so much.
Blue looks from side to side. Maybe he can look around a bit? See if there is another bakery. He doubts it because the town, and well this very universe, is very small and he hadnā€™t seen it when he visited this place with the Stars all that time ago.
But well. He doesnā€™t really have anything planned today.
He looks left and right and decides to go right for now. He wanders down the street and waves at people along the way.
Okay. So he canā€™t get the cherry hazelnut pie he wanted. Which is a shame. But he can do something else to cheer him up!
It had just been rough in his underground. Alphys had been very distrusting of the human this time around and it had been exhausting to get her to at least try to get to know them. That is not even the multiverse mess.
At least people donā€™t demand his help at every turn anymore. Sure he loves helping others but before it got so bad. Back when Dream was still doing the positive guardian thing. People had also demanded help of Blue. And Blue loves to help! But there had been the fear that if he said no it would reflect badly on Dream and Ink.
There is a reason he hardly travelled the multiverse alone before. It was just easier to give himself rest that way.
But now with Dream officially having a new god goal and Ink still being MIA it means people stopped bothering Blue all the time!
Blue tries to ignore the hurt that thinking about Ink brings. He had done so much to help Ink and had thought they had been friends! That Blue meant something to the other! Apparently not. Seeing as Ink hasnā€™t even shown his face anywhere yet, aside from meetings but Blue doesnā€™t really count that. They donā€™t even hang out afterwards. Ink just leaves again.
Blue shakes his skull and keeps walking. It is fine. Ink is also a god and probably busy with god stuff. Reaper was going to talk with Error and Ink about their godhood after all. Ink is probably just busy.
Blue justā€¦ he hopes Ink didnā€™t justā€¦ forget himā€¦
Blue shakes his skull and pats his own cheeks twice. Come on Blue! Snap out of it! You got this! No need to dwell on the negatives. Especially if you donā€™t know what Inkā€™s reason is! There is no reason to worry or feel sad about things you donā€™t even know yet!
Blue sighs as he grabs his phone. His phalange hovering over Dreamā€™s icon. No. Dream is dealing with enough. And asking him to track down Ink just so Blue can ask him why he doesnā€™t want to hang out anymore is justā€¦ a lot.
Blue scrolls through his contacts and pauses when he sees Redā€™s name. Huh. It has been a while since he hang out with Red. Maybe the two of them can go to some motorcross universe and drive a set of bikes around? Just go fast and have fun with a friend? He taps a message and sends it.
Blue grins at his phone as he waits. Oh this is going to be great. Just him and a friend having fun and talking about motorcycles!
A ping and Blue grins before it falls. Red says he canā€™t at the moment. Bad run going on in his universe and that his brother is very stressed. Apparently the last reset had gone very badly and Red had died and apparently Edge had gotten somekind of memory or dream about it and is hovering a lot more than usual.
Blue sighs but types back that he gets it and if he needs help just to let him know. Red answers with a thumbs up and a thanks.
Blue sighs and just looks up. Huh. He recognises these streets but canā€™t quite remember where from. Maybe all these areas just look alike? Blue shrugs and looks back at his phone.
Maybe he can ask Sans, or whatever everyone decides to call him. Sans is a bitā€¦ strange. No one is quite sure why, Sans least of all. It is just weird how everyone just decided that no nickname really fit him. They tried Comic and Classic. But in the end everyone just ends up referring to him with Sans.
Which is weird as fuck with all of them originally being Sans. Yet Sans is the most Sans.
It is hard to explain.
He finds the number and grins as he is typing a message.
A moment later he answers that he is down to hang out.
Blue grins as he starts typing, not really paying attention to where he is going. He texts his friend about maybe going to Outertale to just hang out at the cafƩ. Or even to try and find a new universe.
Sans says he is down and asks if he wants to meet wherever he is now to travel together or to meet at Outertale and search for each other there.
Blue thinks and is about to type for Sans to come to him as he looks up for a reference for Sans to teleport to. Only to freeze.
That is the Cuddly Cat.
More importantly.
That is the back of Killerā€™s jacket leaving around the side of the building.
Blue doesnā€™t even answer the text as he runs towards the other road.
He gets there just in time to see the portal melt shut. Blue searches for the right app on his phone and holds it near the slowly fully closing rift. Praying he was fast enough to manage and get there in time.
It takes a moment and the signal the app is picking up disappears. But it is still loading and Blue stares at the program as it slowly slowly loads.
Then it pops up with coordinates to an universe!
Blue stares in shock before seeing another message of Sans appear at the top. He quickly texts him that he is very sorry but that he just spotted the gang out and about.
Sansā€™s reply is mostly confused. Asking why it matters as Sans thought that was all already solved? So why try and track their movement?
Blue is thorn. Does he share that Dream doesnā€™t actually know if Nightmare is dead? That Dream is actually looking for Nightmare?
Blue ends up typing that Dream still wants to personally apologise for the gang and Sans says he gets it and just let him know when he got time to hang.
Blue sighs as he opens the right chat window and starts to type. But then removes the message as he tries to type one again.
Over and over as he struggles over what to exactly say before he settles on a message.
ā€œI saw the gang. I know to which universe they went. We got a lead if you want to check it out?ā€
And he waits.
His phone pings.
ā€œPlease.ā€
Seems like he got plans after all.
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souenkun Ā· 4 months ago
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I don't see this talked about often in the english side of the fandom, as this tidbit got lost in translation, but:
In the japanese versions for both texts and voice lines in the middle-aged opposites venet, kabu addresses larry with "ā€”kun (恏悓)" in their second meeting in front of the restaurant. It's a japanese honorific to address someone who is a junior than you, in terms of either age or work experience/status. Inferring from this, kabu may either (1) be slightly older than larry in age (as I think they both have equal years of experience, just that larry happened be slightly superior to kabu in terms of their workplace status because he is also an elite four member), (2) be that friendly and warm as a person that he calls larry with "ā€”kun (恏悓)" right away in the second part of their event's story, or (3) both.
Take what you will from this, friends! šŸ«”
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spotaus Ā· 5 months ago
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Okay! This one is less rendered than the other two, but here's some doodles of Tulpa figuring out how to co-exist! (Aka Fresh not taking training seriously while Dream is trying desperately to get his friends to think he's normal.)
When Dream first returns to the Star Sans', he finds himself in a pickle, because he needs Fresh to move his body. Sure, they made a tentative agreement that Dream trusted Fresh not to break, but Dream hadn't been specific enough with the guidelines.
Fresh pilots Dream's body based on the commands from his soul, but more often than not Fresh simply decides not to listen. Sometimes when they're training, Fresh will suddenly make Dream fumble his bow or send an arrow flying way off-target. Dream is always frustrated by this, unaware that Fresh it doing it for his own good and is forcing the guardian to take a break.
Blue was also made aware of Fresh very early on. One day he was passing the kitchen where Dream was cooking and spotted how Fresh's little form was wiggling out of the hole on Dream's skull. Blue made Eye-contact with Fresh, but said nothing since it seemed like Dream was aware and didn't mind. He waited until Dream told him to acknowledge the parasite directly, but suddenly a bunch of Dream's weird actions made sense to him. Blue regularly makes sure to check in on Dream, before abd after he's aware of Fresh, because he knows Dream works himself into the ground.
Dream (eventually) figures out that Fresh was being clumsy for his sake and nearly cries about it (even his mother and the villagers never did that for him, and Blue was the only other person to ever pull him away from training for his own good) so he gets a bit emotional. He feels bad for how angry he used to get at Fresh for doing that, but Fresh never gave him a proper explanation either, so it was a two-way street.
And while Fresh was lienent around Blue and Ink, he never slipped up around Nightmare's gang. Though, he did fight seriously, which to him might look like goofing off, which is completely separate from Dream's fighting style. (For now Dream uses Arrows and his Bow, but I'm thinking Tulpa has a T-Shirt Canon or a Nerf Gun by the time they make-up.)
Ideally Fresh cannot be seen during combat because he actually pilots from around Dream's soul, but sometimes his parasite form expands to support Dream's weak joints and act like a shock-absorber.
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the-meme-monarch Ā· 2 years ago
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canā€™t tell if this was a recent dream or a long ago memory resurfaced but i feel like there was an instance of someone getting mad at me for drawing sans undertale as wearing pink slippers and all i could think was ā€˜why do you hate funā€™
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somegrumpynerd Ā· 4 months ago
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Horror's nightmare
Horror doesn't think much on his past anymore, but his nightmares often resurface the guilt he's buried about the idea that he could have prevented it all somehow, even if it came at the cost of his own life.
Thankfully, Nightmare is here to make him a hot drink to calm his nerves and promise him a visit to his brother when the sun is up, because Papyrus will always be very glad to see his brother alive and visiting (and as sleepy as ever).
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justharold Ā· 2 years ago
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please please please PLEASE
(quick silly thing i did while trying to get back into drawing skeletons in an actual ok way good god helpme)
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