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i swear to god, if i see one more "poor calypso, she deserved better, such a tragic unrequited love story 🥺🥺🥺" post/tiktok/content/literally anything online, something is getting brutally stabbed
#like im sory bbgs but she is fckn rapist#she literally rapes a guy constantly for seven years#i don't see poor victim in her in any way#how could anybody read odyssey and think that???#fuck calypso#calypso can choke#calypso#greek mythology#the odyssey#odysseus#i love riordanverse but rick wtf why is she there paired with LITERAL TEENAGERS#i fucking hate her#calypso should die#tw sa#to be clear im not attacking rrverse fans who like her character there but i definitely have beef with rick for putting her there#but if someone is talking about actual greek mythology calypso that way#its just so gross to me#especially if they read the odyssey#justice for odysseus#in a way that yes#he is a horrible person and have done a lot of shit#but he also suffered enormous SA from calypso and this should be recognised#so yeah :)#to sum up:#burn in hell calypso
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So lately I’ve been seeing a lot of posts asking people to stop trying to make Odysseus look nice in their works cuz he’s a “messed-up person in the mythology”. Your opinion is valid however I have but one thing to point out:
You want to know who started all this? Who started to “make Odysseus look nice” in the first place?
It’s Homer. It’s nobody else but Homer himself.
A non-Homeric Odysseus would try to murder people out of his own interests. He’d murder Palamedes without remorse (and we’d be cheering over this but it’s a murder after all), he’d attempt to murder Diomedes just to get the Palladium himself, he’d volunteer to kill Astyanax…meanwhile you wouldn’t find any mention of either Palamedes or Nauplius in Homer’s poems, neither did he mention anything abt the Palladium heist (and Diomedes necessity did not happen until Conon’s version), the death of Astyanax, the distribution of war prizes, etc. And all the details in the Odyssey seemed to deny the existence of Nauplius’s vengeance at all, so Odysseus would not take any of the blame.
A non-Homeric Odysseus would be depicted as “cruel, treacherous”, meanwhile in book 10 of the Iliad Odysseus was not mentioned to have killed anyone during the marauding, neither did he promise Dolan anything at all. The negative interpretations are denied by these details subtly put by Homer.
A non-Homeric Odysseus would be widely known as a “coward” for only shooting arrows from afar. But Homer gave him a spear and had him absolutely slaying in both the Iliad and the Odyssey. That part of Ajax’s speech was invalid already.
Most importantly—a non-Homeric Odysseus would be having kids everywhere else, and the loyalty to his own wife as seen in the Odyssey is no where to be found. Meanwhile his lineage was a single-son line made by Zeus in the Odyssey, and his love for Penelope was one of his main drives, especially seen in book 5 of the Odyssey. He loved his family as a loving parent—something you don’t get to see in most of the non-Homeric writings—for most of the time they followed a different tradition indeed, in which Odysseus wasn’t half as nice as in the Odyssey.
TL;DR: in case you haven’t noticed, the characterization of the Homeric Odysseus was quite different from a non-Homeric version of Odysseus. It’s not that Homer didn’t know of the existence of other versions—he knew them too well, which is why in his version of the story, you don’t get to see any mention of them.
#and now hot take: your opinion is invalid cuz there isn’t supposed to be such a term as “nice” when describing a person#he did not join the war willingly and the war crimes he did were out of necessity#no god has judged him on these “war crimes” so neither should you#not especially when you’re basing it on your modernized view of this matter while the ideology of heroes is so different in ancient times#there isn’t such a term as “nice” or “not nice” when it comes to an Ancient Greek hero#they’re complicated persons with feats on their shoulders and family of their own#tagamemnon#the iliad#the odyssey#homer’s iliad#homer’s odyssey#the epic cycle#homer#odysseus#epic the musical#tagging epic cuz I’ve seen such opinions directing at Epic!Odysseus—but how on earth was he a “nice” person#he did much horrible things in act 2 and isn’t that what you would like to see or did I smell double standards?#*shrugs* I do not direct this at anyone—just at some specific opinions I’ve read online#anyways there’ll always be arguments but let’s just agree on the fact that he’s a grey character and he did stay grey in these adaptations#so fricking tired of these negative commentaries which are not constructive at all#Lyculī sermōnēs
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jane of all trades
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#dimension 20#d20#mine#sundry sidney#big barry syx#sundrysyx#a starstruck odyssey#modern au#fanart#based on a fic i read#so fucking good aghhh i love them too much#theres a second part to this but i felt too shy to finish it#so tired of all the porterjace in the ao3 tags can someone write more sundrysyx please god#ive reread this fic literally like four times it makes me so giddy my roommates have had to hear all about this nonstop#speaking of roommates i moved literally across the country so i havent been able to draw that much sorry ... more art soon :) especially#nsbu i have to catch up !!!!! ive been rewatching some of my fav campaigns like burrows end and acofaf instead of watching new stuff aghh
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hi, i haven't read the iliad and the odyssey but want to - do u have a specific translation you recommend? the emily wilson one has been going around bc, y'know, first female translator of the iliad and odyssey into english, but i was wondering on if you had Thoughts
Hi anon! Sorry for the somewhat late response and I'm glad you trust me with recommendations! Full, disclosure, I am somewhat of a traditionalist when it comes to translations of the source text of the Iliad + Odyssey combo wombo, which means I tend to prefer closeness in literal verbiage over interpretation of the poetic form of these epics - for that reason, my personal preferred versions of the Odyssey and Iliad both are Robert Fitzgerald's. Because both of these translations (and his Aeneid!) were done some 50+ years ago (63 for his original Odyssey tl, 50 flat for his Iliad and 40 for his Aeneid) the English itself can be a bit difficult to read and the syntax can get confusing in a lot of places, so despite my personal preferences, I wouldn't recommend it for someone who is looking to experience the Iliad + Odyssey for the very first time.
For an absolute beginner, someone who has tried to read one or both of these epics but couldn't get into it or someone who has a lot of difficulty with concentrating on poetry or long, winding bits of prose, I fully and wholeheartedly recommend Wilson's translation! See, the genius of Emily Wilson's Iliad + Odyssey isn't that she's a woman who's translated these classics, it's that she's a poet who's adapted the greek traditional poetic form of dactylic hexameter into the english traditional poetic form of iambic pentameter. That alone goes a very very long way to making these poems feel more digestible and approachable - iambic pentameter is simply extremely comfortable and natural for native english speakers' brains and the general briskness of her verbiage helps a lot in getting through a lot of the problem books that people usually drop the Iliad or Odyssey in like Book 2 of the Iliad or Book 4 of the Odyssey. I think it's a wonderful starting point that allows people to familiarise themselves with the source text before deciding if they want to dig deeper - personally, researching Wilson's translation choices alone is a massive rabbit hole that is worth getting into LOL.
The happy medium between Fitzgerald's somewhat archaic but precise syntax and Wilson's comfortable meter but occasionally less detailled account is Robert Fagles' Iliad + Odyssey. Now, full disclosure, I detest how Fagles handles epithets in both of his versions, I think they're far too subtle which is something he himself has talked at length about in his translation notes, but for everything else - I'd consider his translations the most well rounded of english adaptations of this text in recent memory. They're accurate but written in plain English, they're descriptive and detailled without sacrificing a comfortable meter and, perhaps most importantly, they're very accessible for native english speaking audiences to approach and interact with. I've annotated my Fagles' volumes of these books to heaven and back because I'm deeply interested in a lot of the translation decisions made, but I also have to specifically compliment his ability to capture nuance in the characters' of these poems in a way I don't often see. He managed to adapt the ambivalence of ancient greek morality in a way I scarcely see and that probably has a hand in why I keep coming back to his translations.
Now, I know this wasn't much of a direct recommendation but as I do not know you personally, dear anon, I can't much make a direct recommendation to a version that would best appeal to your style of reading. Ideally, I'd recommend that you read and enjoy all three! But, presuming that you are a normal person, I suggest picking which one is most applicable for you. I hope this helps! 🥰
#ginger answers asks#greek mythology#the iliad#the odyssey#okay so now that I'm not recommending stuff I also highly highly HIGHLY suggest Stephen Mitchell's#Fuck accuracy and nuance and all that shit if you just want a good read without care for the academic side of things#Stephen Mitchell's Iliad and Odyssey kick SO much fucking ass#I prefer Fitzgerald's for the busywork of cross-checking and cross-referencing and so it's the version I get the most use out of#But Mitchell's Iliad specifically is vivid and gorgeous in a way I cannot really explain#It's not grounded in poetic or translationary preferences either - I'm just in love with the way he describes specifically the gods#and their work#Most translations and indeed most off-prose adaptations are extremely concerned with the human players of these epics#And so are a bit more ambivalent with the gods - but Mitchell really goes the extra mile to bring them to life#Ugh I would be lying if I said Mitchell's Apollo doesn't live rent free in my mind mmm#Other translations I really like are Stanley Lombardo's (1997) Thomas Clark's (1855) and Smith and Miller (1944)#Really fun ones that are slightly insane in a more modern context (but that I also love) are Pope's (1715) and Richard Whitaker (2012)#Whitaker's especially is remarkable because it's a South African-english translation#Again I can't really talk about this stuff because the ask was specifically for recommendations#But there are SO many translations and adaptations of these two epics and while yes I have also contributed to the problem by recommending#three very popular versions - they are alas incredibly popular for a reason#Maybe sometime I'll do a listing of my favourite Iliad/Odyssey tls that have nothing to do with academic merit and instead are rated#entirely on how much I enjoy reading them as books/stories LMAO
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I'm going a little nuts. I've just read the Odyssey (they only had me read the Iliad in high school, so I'm correcting that oversight, lol). I've looked at multiple different translations because the library/Guttenberg Project are free so comparing/contrasting is easy and fun! I've also listened to EPIC. And like... it's an adaptation with an obvious set of themes drawn from the original they want to explore over others more predominately present, so there will be differences. It's also a modern interpretation? So like... it's not going to 100% adhere to ancient Greek values? Like a modern audience is going to have some qualms about baby murder, so if you want to adapt it that's going to have to be addressed (if you don't take the coward's way out and just shove every war crime on Neoptolemus - or go the full historian route and fully write from an ancient Greek perspective which may alienate new readers but could also be dope? It's subjective).
Like, we all should know an adaptation (especially a modern one) is never a substitute for reading the original work. But adaptations can also bring new or expanded perspectives on the original work, expand on or address themes from the work in a new way, as well as inspire people to read the original. And honestly? A popular adaptation should motivate people to read/watch the original - this is exactly what kicked my ass in gear to read the Odyssey!
I'd also say don't hero-worship the original. Especially if you haven't read it in a while and have a knee-jerk negative reaction to any new adaptation. The original works should still be read but let people have fun! Don't criticize, just say if you want more content/context read the original! I would, for example, never criticize someone for loving Muppets Treasure Island or Treasure Planet even though they don't stick one to one on the original Treasure Island story - even though it was my favorite book growing up. I think they both are made with a love of the source material, but are changed for the medium + the specific themes they want to address.
I don't know. If an adaption makes a story (especially and old one) more accessible it should usually be celebrated and met with encouragement to look deeper into the source material instead of acting superior - especially if you haven't read the source material in a while either. Let people have fun and encourage them to explore! Don't shame them for liking an adaptation, especially when it's made to expand the reach of a wonderful work to a younger, wider audience.
#epic the musical#the odyssey#odysseus#treasure island#rant post#will probably delete later#adaptations#stories#I just want everyone to have media literacy and nice things#Especially since I got burned out with reading during/after uni#so anything that get's people to engage in a heathy way and even explore more is a net positive in my book#literature#Please tag any other properties btw#My only flaw is I've been a Dracula novel truther since 2012 - even if the movie costumes are A+ material#I live in awe
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I've had a few people say I should try and read every translation of the Odyssey
I regret to inform you that I tried that and it ended in me reading none of them
#reading all of them sounds like a good idea and fun#but ADHD can be a bitch like that#So far I've lived off random quotes from all of them#But I want to get the full picture at least once#I still 100% want to hear people's recommendations#especially if you tell me why it's your favorite#the odyssey#odyssey#odysseus#greek mythology#epic the musical
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As much as I like the musical, I still found it a lost potential by making Odysseus a good person at the beginning of the story. This is Odysseus AFTER the Trojan war, already cunning, sacker of cities, complicated. A man brought nothing but war and destruction back to a home that had changed so much when he was gone.
A tale of innocent-at-heart boy growing into manhood and potentially a ‘monster’ would be much more fitting with Telemachus as a protagonist.
Imagine Telemachus who had listened to all those heroic stories about his father and looked up to the father he didn’t even remember only to have the man and a goddess tell him ‘ruthless is mercy upon ourselves’.
Imagine the moral struggles when Telemachus was asked to kill the maids/slaves by his father’s order. He might have grown up together with some of the girls. But it’s words from his father, a hero, and a goddess, so is this what it takes to be a man?
#epic the musical#have been reading Emily Wilson’s Odessey translation lately#her interpretation of the ‘homecoming’ theme in both Odyssey and Iliad is fascinating#especially consider Emily being a migrant herself#‘the truth is you will never go home’ man that hits hard
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I'm honestly shocked that since Emotion/Representation aired I've yet to see anyone do anything at all with Felix and Mary Shelley's Frankenstein??? I think about it every day it's literally THE Felix piece of media. It's his entire character thesis. What are we doing guys
I KNOW I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT IT THE OTHER DAY
To be fair I have seen a few people headcanoning it as one of Felix’s favourite books (Which yes. Absolutely. 1,000,000%) but there hasn’t been any fics/art/edits/etc. about it yet to my knowledge. My copy is at my parents’ and in French but I am tempted to find an English PDF since it’s been public domain for a good while now. The web weave potential is insane.
I have many thoughts about Felix and literature in general… I have him quote Cyrano de Bergerac all the time in my fics, for example. I was thinking of starting a list of works of art and literature he’d enjoy, so I’ll take this as a sign to get writing! I can get my fandom friends to make some suggestions as well! 📝
Edit: @bittersweetresilience got us covered, our honour is safe 💜🦚
#For now I really need to go to bed but here’s an overview:#Frankenstein and Cyrano of course#The portrait of Dorian Gray for Emilie#Ovid’s Metamorphoses (my sister and I actually wrote a fic about it!)#L’Albatros by Charles Baudelaire (see: web weave)#Psychopompe by Amélie Nothomb (see: other web weave)#J’aime l’araignée et j’aime l’ortie by Victor Hugo#She walks in beauty by Byron for Kagami#East of Eden (I’ve yet to read it but the movie is one of my favourites to this day)#Phantom of the Opera by Gaston Leroux#The Odyssey and EPIC#All of Magritte’s art but especially La Grande Famille & L’Empire des Lumières & La Trahison des Images#Stuart Semple’s entire vibe#I wonder what he’d think of Bauhaus art actually. The entire philosophy would create conflicting feelings I’m sure#Danse Macabre by Camille Saint-Saëns#Bach’s Toccata and Fugue in D minor#He’d also prefer Salieri to Mozart while also detailing how Salieri actually made a name for himself every time the topic comes up#OH and he has the biggest crush on Milady de Winter#And Zagreus from Hades#miraculous ladybug#felix graham de vanily#tumblr asks
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having freshly rewatched supernatural imagine my surprise when i see teen!dean asking wtf yarrow is in s10e12 about a boy and sam having to explain not only what it is but what its used for
when way back in s2e8 aka the iconic crossroad blues not only was dean the one who noticed the yarrow first(even if he couldn't think of the name) he was also already aware that they're significant in occult practices
you know
in case you needed proof of how inconsistent spn's writing is and/or the later seasons' writing team's commitment to the dumbification of dean winchester
#the way i had to hit pause when teen dean didn't know what yarrow was and out loud said “bitch he would NOT ask that tf”#mind you i JUST rewatched crossroad blues like a week ago#and i will not be hearing anyone out on the hell made dean forgetful trope rn bc while i can understand that on some things#this isn't the kind of stuff he would forget especially when yarrow is popularly used in the world of their job#anyway my babygirl has never been dumb no matter how he plays it#man built an EMF meter and an EMP from scratch read the odyssey and vonnegut and has an encyclopedic knowledge of film and tv#and that's just what i can think of off the top of my head#you come into MY house and tell me THEE dean winchester doesn't know what YARROW is? gtfoooo#dean winchester#sam winchester#spn rewatch#crossroad blues#about a boy#dean meta#early seasons vs later seasons#spn writing crit
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I JUST REALISED THIS IS ABOUT HOW THE SKY AND THE SEA WERE DESCRIBED IN ANCIENT GREEK TEXTS LIKE AT LEAST HOMER DESCRIBED THE SEA AS WINE-COLORED AND SHIT I FUCKING LOVE THE FOUR WINDS
#I JUST READ ABOUT THIS TOO BC I WAS IN GREECE AND READING THE ODYSSEY#AND ID SEEN A VIDEO ABOUT HOMER AND HOW THE SEA IS NEVER REALLY DESCRIBED AS BLUE#sorry cant yell anymore. look it up its really interesting its like. the greeks described things way more#anaesthetically#i love it so much also its the Obsession of the month#anyway. love the oh hellos. love the four winds especially.#the oh hellos#the four winds#song lyrics#boreas
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I think Ody must’ve met every person in the Underworld
#that was…a very long chapter#and a lot of dead people I really didn’t care about#I enjoyed getting to see his fellow fighters from the war#especially when achilles did happy zoomies at hearing his son’s fame#and of course the part with Ody’s mom tore my heart out#but everything else was pretty boring to me#even ody was eventually like ‘yeah so there were A LOT of dead people…can I go to bed now?’#trin reads the odyssey
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I finished justice league odyssey and my takeaway from this book is that everyone wanted Jessica Cruz carnally (honestly, same)
#expect jpv drax starr and orion ig (two gay men and a cat)#blackfire especially was this close to making out with jess at all times#anyway I had a good time. I need to go back and read jessica's gl run too eventually#nikoletta reads comics#justice league odyssey
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Somehow I started playing BG3 again despite being in a DAI mood based purely on the fact that I was distracted and was considering a Sorcerer/Wizard multiclass situation and became entirely focused on multiclassing a character and also just existing in “fuck around Act 1 and be a half elf with draconic sorcery again” because I am so sore and exhausted and when I go back into DAI I am reminded of the fact that I have had the time to like… build a set of characters that I like… have allowed to grow out of the bounds of canon into their own beasts. And when I go back to canon I remember “oh right fuck. All of this is about to be proven wrong by a new game. I just had like a decade to build a story of my own making because we kinda just got scraps of story development for a really long time and I just made my own in my head to tide myself over.”
Which I’m not like. Mad at, it just takes a bit of time to recalibrate to “right, all my headcanon lore needs to be forgotten because the real lore is actually going to be updated and I can’t get confused when the characters and story I created to keep the adventure going don’t exist and the lore I made up isn’t real.”
Which feels like. So stupid in its own way, but like… DAI came out in 2014, trespasser came out in 2015. I’ve had time to like… construct my own narratives that serve storylines that just… exist for me. I know they’re self indulgent, and honestly for a while there the Dragon Age fandom scared the shit out of me so I didn’t want to write it all down and share it because I knew it was self indulgent and I didn’t really want to like… get in trouble for it. And people got in trouble for some very mild things in the DA fandom. And if you say there isn’t you’re lying because it has a fuckin’ reputation. I’ve known multiple people uninterested in the series based entirely on the toxic sludge that comes with the fandom’s reputation.
I mean maybe you also might have been lucky enough to just keep entirely to yourself and your isolated group of friends without being bothered by other people and if so like. Congratulations, you managed to get through Dragon Age without the sludge. That’s beautiful. Many were not so lucky.
I am sitting outside again and therefore just shit talking on my phone instead of any of the things I am declaring myself to be doing. I’m like. Mega sore and feel like shit so like… I guess I’m just like… grouchy.
Plus one of my OCs did have a fraction of June’s soul in him so like. I always knew that a new game would come out and be like “no bitch you can’t have soul fragment of the Evanuris without knowing that canon will take this from you ultimately” it just does feel weird to have lived in the nebulous world of “nothing exists so nothing is incorrect” to suddenly be like… “oh, right. There is going to be a canon and there will be answers as to how Solas’ character arc is resolved and who the Evanuris are.”
And like. It’s wild but I’m kind of anxious about that because like… I’ve spent so much time just… speculating and daydreaming and living in a world of *not* having a new Dragon Age game, that now it’s like… “fuck I need to let go of the Dragon Age I built in my mind and try not to let that inform my opinion of the game.”
Because like… Self Indulgent Daydream Dragon Age and Veil Guard are never gonna be the same universe. And like. SID is fully just tailored heroic and romantic scenes about OCs that make me feel really cool in my head. It’s shallow and pointless but emotionally satisfying and hardwired into my attachment to Dragon Age. But Veil Guard is like… gonna be coming in at a severe disadvantage if I compare it to like. A story I made up in my head specifically to cater to me and my wants in the moment I was crafting the story for myself. Which is like. So deeply unfair to like. Everyone involved with the series.
Also I still blame EA and not BioWare for like 90% of the business issues. Like. It feels really clear that the issues are happening higher up the ladder and someone’s getting scapegoated. Part of the evidence being the attempt to avoid paying appropriate Canadian severance packages. While Canadian companies can be plenty scummy, makes a little more sense if an American overhead felt that they could just keep cutting costs with their Canadian company with Canadian grants, and then while laying off Canadian workers they didn’t want to also pay Canadian severance packages because like. The whole point of having a satellite company in Canada is to cut costs. It’s really annoying to pay more to people that don’t even work for us anymore, like fuck. We couldn’t even have a successful Montreal branch like what are we even doing you guys. They have so many tax breaks you guys.
I am kind of stoned now maybe and kind of grumpy. And just throwing like. Rocks at hornets nests probably lmao.
Or just yapping. I’ve been sitting here talking so long I don’t think anyone’s gonna read it. Lost messages in recipe blogs etc etc
#my life#seph plays bg3#seph plays dai#honestly I just talk about DAI but for tagging#I don’t know what I’m tagging but like… I guess if you want to block me navel gazing about these topics#I can just have them as my grab all even if I’m technically not playing just like… talking about the subject of whatever#it works for epic since ‘listens’ is the verb#because it’s a musical.#even though most of the time I am just like… off wildly speculating or trying to focus long enough to read the Odyssey#very bad pain flares make focus difficult and I am having a very bad flare#even and/or especially my feet hurt and it’s destroying me#I have begun having to wear supportive sandals indoors#I feel… American
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I just found the Iliad and the Odyssey in graphic novel form this weekend, and I'm so excited to read them! They're by Gareth Hinds, and the insides are as gorgeous as the covers! I'd come to terms with the fact that I'll probably never treat the original texts lol, old texts don't keep my attention well. But I also know they're referenced in modern literature super often, and I wish I understood the references better. So I saw these and realized it's a great way for me to actually read them!
Would people be interested in a reading list of classic ancient world literature for beginners I'm kinda in the mood to infodump
#the iliad#the odyssey#also want to read some of the other stuff on this list#especially gilgamesh and the three theben plays#to read
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Hello Mr. Gaiman, I'm very excited because I finally bought The Left Hand of Darkness by Ursula K. Le Guin, can't wait to read it. This editon has a foreword by you. Can you tell us a bit about how you were aproached about it? And how the whole 'invite another author to make an introduction' usually happens in the publishing industry? Thanks and I hope you have a lovely day!
I'm pretty sure that this is one of six books where I wrote an introduction to the series and talked about the individual books -- 2001: A Space Odyssey, Dune, Neuromancer, The Once and Future King, The Left Hand of Darkness, and Stranger in a Strange Land -- where what I wrote about the individual books has now become an introduction in its own right. Probably without ever asking me, although I would have said yes if asked.
Normally I get asked to introduce books that people know I have a connection to, especially to help books that are coming back into print.
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🛡️ Subtle Athena Worship 🗡️
Engage in arts and crafts, especially crocheting, weaving, and pottery
Read books you enjoy; try reading The Odyssey
Keep a picture of her in your wallet
Have a candle that reminds you of her (no altar needed)
Wear jewelry that reminds you of her
Have imagery of spears and shields around
Have a snake or owl stuffed animal
Invest in your schooling; studying, doing homework, working hard
Participate in voting, if you can
Try to think outside the box for solutions to problems
Take care of yourself physically, especially with movement or exercise
Dancing to music, especially music that empowers you
Write stories of your own
Learning self-defense, weapons included or not
Bird-watching and star-gazing
Support humanitarian efforts abroad or locally
Drink calming or meditative tea
Meditate out in the sun or under the full moon
Go outside of your comfort zone; try new things that will ultimately be good for you
Play D&D (yes, really)
Take good care of your body; drink lots of water, eat three meals a day, try to eat well, etc.
Practice restraint and patience, especially with people who annoy the shit out of you
Practice standing up for yourself
Assert your boundaries clearly; learn what your boundaries are
Play with your dog or cat, if you have one, especially activities that get you moving, too
Wear clothes that make you feel confident and comfortable
Prioritize your well-being
Cook with olive oil, if able
Make a list of your personal goals; achieve them one step at a time
Celebrate your accomplishments; acknowledge your strengths
Sharpen your mind; play memory or mentally stimulating games
Take regular breaks from screens; be sure to go outside throughout the day for some fresh air
Spend time with loved ones
Drink soothing beverages; herbal teas, hot chocolate, whatever else there is, etc.
Make a list of your passions and actively pursue them
Learn more about yourself; try new hobbies, express yourself in new ways, pay attention to what brings you joy, etc.
Write down quotes you hear and enjoy
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May add more later on! For now, this is my list of discreet ways to worship Athena. Hope this is helpful, and take care, y'all! 🩵
Link to Subtle Worship Master list
#athena deity#athena worship#helpol#hellenic polytheism#hellenic pagan#deity worship#paganblr#pagan tips
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