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Monster Typology
Hello guys I am currently finishing to watch Monster Anime and im currently stuck between some typologies for some characters and I wanted to hear your opinions and arguments. Cuz I want to figure this out
Kenzo Tenma: Most people agree that he is an INFP 1w2 sp/so however idk how to feel about Fi dom for him tbh. I think XSFJ makes more sense to him. Personally I'm leaning towards ESFJ FeSi. As for his enneagram SP1 doesn't sound like him to me at all. If anything SO1 or SO9?
Johan Liebert: INFJ E5 for sure however im not fully sure between SO5 or SX5 yet. Im leaning towards SX5 tho.
Nina Fortner (Anna Liebert): I can def see ENFJ however I think EXFP can be more accurate ? As for her enneagram I think SO1 is fine however SO7 and SO9 may fit as well?
Eva Heineman: Obvious Te Dom in Fi grip. ESFP is a bit absurd to me. However I dont know if she is an ESTJ or ENTJ (TeSe). As for her enneagram I am between SX8 or SO3. Both of those fit perfectly to her character imo.
Wolfgang Grimmer: I think ENFJ is also okay ? however idk maybe there is a better fit out there. SO9 is actually okay tbh.
Please share your thoughts.
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Hazbin Hotel MBTI
Charlie Morningstar - ENFJ
Charlie has an idealistic desire to solve everyone else’s problems but her own. She had a tender heart, which has been both her biggest strengths and her biggest weaknesses. Her focus on everyone else’s emotions (Fe), hasn’t allowed her to be assertive when she needs to, always sugarcoating her words to avoid offending everyone else. However, it has allowed her to open other people’s eyes to the concept of redemption. She has a very narrowed focus on her singular goal to make the Hazbin Hotel work and she has very specifically focuses on the concept of redemption.
Vaggie - ISTJ
Vaggie is the grounded, down-to-earth half of Charlie. She uses her experience rooted in Si both in Hell and with other people, to challenge Charlie’s perspective at times. She is also able to take control of certain situations, in ways that Charlie might not be able to at times. Her Te consistently causes her to doubt certain aspects of these ideas, like the idea Angel can change. She doesn’t believe it until Angel objectively shows signs of changing.
Angel Dust - ESFP
Angel Dust can be impulsive, throwing himself into drinking and sex, to cope with his surroundings, showing his unhealthy Se. He puts up a wall, and is portrayed as being fake, however his decision to push his own emotions aside has much more to do with self-preservation than it does with conforming to his friend group, like an Fe would do. His Fi is shown in the way he always tries to protect himself and hide his emotions, to avoid getting hurt. He is constantly trying to get out of work, trying to get out of having to answer to Valentino. He wants nothing more than to separate himself from his toxic environment.
Alastor - ENTJ
Not much is known about Alastor’s true intentions, but from what we do know, he likes to be in complete control of situations. His decisions are based on information that works, rather than his own personal frameworks and theories, and doesn’t necessarily believe in things, such as redemption, until there is probable data in front of him. He also has a narrowed focus, Ni, where he uses his tertiary Se to pull from his environment to make decisions.
Sir Pentious - INFP
While he may disguise himself as a Te user, Sir Pentious is guided by his own feelings and desires, first and foremost. He attacks the hotel because he thinks it will earn him respect, and his inability to come up with any sort of feasible plan, indicates he has low Te. This being said, he has many strong ideas for the future, and he tends to be the most easy to convince to be on board.
Husk - ISTP
Husk comes off as cold and detached towards people he doesn’t know- and towards people he does know. He is aware of how people in his environment acts, and can see through people and their behaviors, but lacks empathy when addressing it, indicating strong inferior Fe. Like Angel Dust, he can also be impulsive, and enjoys sensory activities, such as gambling. Because of this, Husk is able to relate to Angel’s issues in ways that other main characters can’t, and uses this as a way to comfort him.
Lucifer Morningstar - ENFP
Lucifer’s many ideas about free will, and his desires to help humanity is what initially separates him from the other angels. However, as his hope is lost and his depression grows, he gets himself into an Si grip. He wants things to change, but he has also seen from experience how difficult it is to change a sinner. His Fi is shown when we see his personal values. He is so obsessed with his own emotions and his own past, that he doesn’t really comply to group morals at all.
Adam - ESTP
Adam is impulsive and tends to act without thinking about the long term effects, and he tends to use his own logic, developed by social standards, to justify his actions. He suggests the extermination, not as much as a solution to the problem at hand, but for the sake of entertainment. His impulsive nature is also what ends up exposing the exterminations to everyone.
To Be Typed: For now, this is all I’m doing, as I don’t feel like I know enough about the other characters to type them.
#mbti#enfj#esfp#istj#charlie morningstar#hazbin vaggie#angel dust#istp#entj#enfp#lucifer morningstar hazbin#hazbin alastor#hazbin husk#sir pentious#infp
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One of the biggest crimes that the fandom has created is.....
Having Kaiser type as ENTP. Ness as ENFJ. Bachira as an ESTP.
LIKE HOW?
Where is the Fe, Ti and Ne?
What is this blasphemy I encountered today?
Look me in the eye and tell me with a straight faced that you've seen them like that in franchise?
Kaiser is obviously an ENTJ with an unhealthy Fi. That single minded goal and philosophical, dark views is his Ni. His shadow functions is blatantly showing under extreme amount of stress and pressure.
I can't see any Fe and Ni towards Ness. His Fi and Ne is shining especially when we were introduced into his backstory. That creativity coupled with strong personal beliefs is shining through his character and he was in the grip of his Te everytime he's under an extreme amount of stress.
Bachira is the poster child of ESFP. Look at that motivation for playing soccer and strong inner sense of belief and tell me he doesn't have a Fi? 🤨
Thank God that Nagi is correctly typed as ISTP. He's an ISTP 9w8. Enough said.
Nanase is debatable. I need to see more of him if there's a Ne in his functions. Safe to say for the meantime: ExFP
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M.yers-B.riggs
ESFP-A: Entertainer
ESFP personalities are inclined toward putting on a show for others and generally appear to be very comfortable in the spotlight. However, it is not their love for being the center of attention that drives this sense of confidence but their knack for sensing what’s appropriate in certain situations. They have an uncanny ability to mirror the behaviors of those around them.
ESFPs truly enjoy the simplest things, and there’s no greater joy for them than just having fun with a good group of friends. People with this personality type would almost always choose to be with friends over spending time alone. With their unique and earthy wit, they love soaking up attention and making every get-together feel a bit like a party.
It’s not just talk either – ESFPs tend to have the strongest aesthetic sense of any personality type. From grooming and outfits to a well-appointed home, they have an eye for fashion. Knowing what’s attractive the moment they see it, they aren’t afraid to change their surroundings to reflect their personal style. This type is naturally curious, exploring new designs and styles with ease.
Though it may not always seem like it, these personalities know that it’s not all about them – they are observant and very sensitive to others’ emotions. Often the first to help someone talk out a challenging problem, ESFPs happily provide emotional support and practical advice. However, if the problem is about them, they are more likely to avoid a conflict altogether than to address it head-on. This personality type usually loves a little drama and passion, but not so much when they are the focus of the criticisms it can bring.
Romantic Relationships
Interestingly, ESFPs tend to regard falling in love as the best part of a relationship. They revel most in the stages that involve intense emotions, passion, discovery, and excitement. As a result, they might strive to keep these sparks lit longer than normal by investing more in the flavorful aspects of their relationship.
Because of this investment in liveliness and joy, relationships with ESFPs are simply unforgettable. People with this personality type always have some new and exciting activity up their sleeve, and they genuinely enjoy spending each moment with their partner. ESFPs enjoy physical intimacy immensely, and they prove themselves affectionate, inquisitive, and open-minded, loving to share with willing and reciprocative partners.
Conversation with ESFPs is similar, focusing on fun, sometimes quirky subjects rather than deep, soul-searching expressions. The past and the future, the sciences and politics, and long-term plans and commitments are all less likely to grip ESFP personalities than brighter, more tangible things. They slow things down and add too much weight to their freewheeling style.
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Se or Ne?
okay, i know this sounds stupid as hell but hear me out. i literally have no idea what my mbti is. it's hard for me to tell the difference of the Fi users, or more like i don't REALLY understand the meaning of the functions (or i'm just overthinking lmfao!) , and the difference between Se & Ne. can anyone tell me the most important differences between them and how their inferior functions affect them (such Si/Ni "grip" or "loop"), and even a comparison of the little things the function would prefer over other things (such as, "cause of Se the ESFP would prefer blah blah blah over blah blah blah")
thanks ! :heart-hands:
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Veronica Mars: Lilly Kane [ESFP 7w8]
MBTI Type: ESFP Flashbacks to Lilly’s life reveal that she was the queen bee at her school, but also had a reputation as a party child. She grabbed onto whatever gripped her interest, indulged it for a short time, and then threw it aside—this includes having sexual relationships with several guys other than Logan, behind his back. She encourages Veronica to live large the night of the prom and…
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[Excruciating Duplicity - Callista Lorne] Character Personality / Character Inspirations ~ pt. 1
Hello Everyone,
As part of the New Years Goal to be more productive this year - I am beginning a new installment analysis!
I thought it would be fun to explore the different personality types and share some character inspirations for some of the more under developed OCs here on the blog. With that in mind, I wanted to start with the Lorne Family - better known as Callista's Family.
Hopefully this can help explain them more, and give a better idea of Callista's home life before coming to live with Shu. As well as, the big name players in the story as it unfolds.
This is part 1 of 4 for this group.
In this post we will take a look at the Adler King and Queen, otherwise known as Callista's mom and dad. If you have more questions, or you want to know more, feel free to ask! Enjoy~!
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Ajax
The 'King' of the Adler Demons. He rules his people with the loose grip and an open heart. I recently talked about the Adler Kingdom more with others who have Adler OCs, and fell in love with the idea of having him be King in mostly name. He is a figure head for the people - the one who can make the big decisions when the smaller territory leaders need help. Ajax is not an all ruling dictator, and allows his people to remain free.
Character Inspiration & Personality
ESFP-A
An Entertainer (ESFP) is a person with the Extraverted, Observant, Feeling, and Prospecting personality traits. These people love vibrant experiences, engaging in life eagerly and taking pleasure in discovering the unknown. They can be very social, often encouraging others into shared activities.
Ajax is a loud and passionate individual. He treasures his family and seeks to keep others safe. Boundless in his confidence, he is not without his troubled past and regret. For his main inspiration I drew from Rengoku - wanting someone who was instantly in your face and had a heart of gold.
Expanding on that idea, I also wanted him to have a serious side, which I found in both Oubi and Thors. Both of them embody this strong leader - who even though they are sometimes goofy or soft - they are the strongest and hardest worker.
Guy and All Might are just the correct amount of extra that Ajax is. They are flashy with their moves, and strong in their convictions. Always there to lend a hand - and boost up others.
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Catalina
The Queen - a quiet and reserved ruler. She takes her husbands loose grip on the Kingdom, and ensures there is a cushion to fall on when things get out of hand. Catalina might not be as care free as her husband, but she values the freedom her people are able to have - and works to ensure they are able to maintain that freedom.
Character Inspiration & Personality
INTJ-A
An Architect (INTJ) is a person with the Introverted, Intuitive, Thinking, and Judging personality traits. These thoughtful tacticians love perfecting the details of life, applying creativity and rationality to everything they do. Their inner world is often a private, complex one.
Catalina is a quite and reserved woman, who rarely speaks. This is not due to her being shy - rather - it is due to her always observing. When she does speak, it is often used in an authoritarian tone. Despite her quiet and judgmental nature, she adores the honest and passion that others can find.
Master manipulator, genius, with a hint of sadism. Each of these characters embody Catalina. Makima and Shinobu bring voice to her inner thoughts - as they are more extroverted characters. Moriarty is always 20 steps ahead at any given moment. Kirari is the cool level headed leader that rules with intimidation and power.
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Hello, late night ramble about my Fallout OCs. I haven't touched them in years and because of the drought of BG3 content that I am experiencing I turned to one of my oldest fandoms
I'm not sure if ya'll remember them, but here's Percy/Persephone Zhou (Fallout 3), Maria/Ranger Raven/Maria Elisa Ortega y Romero (Fallout NV), and Kitty/Katerina Robinson nee Volkov (Fallout 4)
MBTI/cognitive functions is one of my hyperfixations at the moment so I got them all tested and goddammit, they're all Ni doms too. Am I really that uncreative with my characters or is it just a case of writing/roleplaying what you know? Lmfao
Anyway, some points of interest, patterns and overlaps among the three. The info about canon characters here are based off of PDB's typing of the characters:
They all have high sneak, but that might just be a reflection of my preferred playstyle. Justified due to Percy using stealth to compensate for her physical weakness, Maria being an ex-Ranger, and Kitty relying on guile to navigate the new world she woke up to.
Their starting SPECIAL tend to have high INT, high CHA, low END, and low STR.
Percy and Maria both have medical training, due to Percy being trained as a doctor by her dad, and Maria being an ex-ranger needs to look after herself in the field.
Maria and Kitty are both well-versed with their respective constitutions' law, due to Maria's time as a Ranger, and due to Kitty being a lawyer.
All have creative hobbies that they're average at, but has helped them in some way: Percy knits and sews (helps with keeping her hands steady during operations), Maria sings (after quitting the Rangers, she found work as a singer in The Tops, where she first met Benny), and Kitty dances (really helped with her agility).
Percy and Kitty are both looking for family members thanks to 3 and 4's respective plots. Maria is running away from hers.
All have family issues. Percy loves her dad but she feels some pressure to walk in his footsteps, unsure of what she wants for herself. Maria is estranged from her family due to her decision to quit the Rangers and denounce the NCR after realizing their tribe's assimilation is a reflection of the NCR's unfettered expansionism. Kitty had a tumultuous relationship with her husband Nate, which they managed to stabilize by the time she got pregnant with Shaun, only for everything to go downhill due to the Great War of 2077.
All are traumatized by religion, one way or another. Percy develops a savior complex thanks to James raising her on the Bible and his own tendencies. (Overworked NiFe) Maria's religion is a syncretization of Catholicism and her tribe's (descendants of Filipino and Mexican agricultural workers in California) indigenous practices, and she ended up embracing the devil inside her instead of bowing her head to the conservative values of her community. (Child Fi being stubborn) Kitty used to be in the Russian Orthodox Church before the Great War, and, well, the bombs dropping gave her a crisis of faith, and she questions why God would allow such destruction to occur is he was truly omnipotent. (NiFi loop)
All have experienced intense Se grips in their moments of weakness and stress. This made them turn to vices. Percy's vice is she drank, and like her dad, she has a taste for scotch. Maria's vice is sex/pleasure/sensation-seeking, and she slept around with people like goddamn Vulpes and Benny too (wtf girl). Kitty's vice is drugs, thanks to Hancock and Cait's influence.
Some relationship dynamics:
Percy shares the same type with her dad, James (INFJ)
Maria shares the same type as Mr. House (which she briefly considered working for, but she ended up taking over The Strip herself) (INTJ)
Kitty shares the same type as her son, Shaun (INTJ).
Percy's frequent companions are all sensors; Charon (ISTP), Butch is (ESTP), and Dogmeat (ESFP). Which is amusing in a way- they're all on the NiSe axis. Percy can see the ways how things might play out thanks to her lead Ni, but she's reliant on the other three to save her ass in a physical fight thanks to her inferior Se. She's the glue of the group with her high Fe too.
Maria's frequent companions are ISTPs and INxPs; Boone (ISTP), Raul (ISTP), Arcade (INTP), and ED-E (INFP). Boone and Raul are like the James Bond to Maria's MI-6, she comes up with the strategy, and those two execute. Arcade is someone she can discuss intellectual pursuits with. ED-E has a soft spot in her heart.
Kitty's frequent companions are ENTPs (Hancock and Deacon). Just... imagine the banter. And the chaos. And the energy.
Percy's main love interests are xSTPs (Charon, ISTP, and Butch, ESTP)
Maria's love interests are an ISTP (Boone), an ENFP (Veronica) and an ENTP (Benny). Her brief/one-sided love interests are two ISTJs (Vulpes Inculta and Joshua Graham), an ISFP (Follows-Chalk), and an ENTJ (Dean Domino).
Kitty's main love interests are ENTPs (Nate, Hancock).
Percy and Maria both have ISTP love interests (Charon for Percy, Boone for Maria)
Maria and Kitty both have ENTP love interests (Benny for Maria, and Hancock and Nate for Kitty)
I really gotta draw all of them soon after I'm done with comms, I missed my girls.
#darling's musings#not art#fallout#fallout 3#fallout new vegas#fallout 4#fallout ocs#oc: percy zhou#oc: raven ortega#oc: kitty robinson#mbti#cognitive functions
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How to Avoid Mistyping
I’ve actually wanted to make a post like this for a while, I just hadn’t really gotten to it yet. Here’s how to know if you’re mistyping a character.
Mistyping vs. A Differing Opinion
When it comes to fictional characters, a lot of it comes down to interpretation, which means there will always be a level of differing opinions when typing a character. However, I do think it’s undoubtable that some types don’t fit characters at all.
At the end of the day, it comes down to argument. Does your argument make sense? Is it understandable to those who aren’t inside your mind? Is it obviously biased.
And here’s the thing- everyone has bad arguments. I’ve had bad arguments, even on this page. However, I am making this post, to maybe help people to think more critically about their arguments.
Are you grasping at straws trying to defend your opinion?
Honestly, this is a good sign that you are mistyping a character. Does it feel like you are trying way too hard to defend your typing of a character, like you can’t come up with any good arguments for it?
This could mean one of two things; you need to rewatch or reread the material you’re typing from or you need to consider a different type for them. Now, I would definitely rewatch or reread said thing first, because there have definitely been times I thought I was mistyping a character when in reality, I just didn’t remember enough about a character to type them appropriately.
But you should at least consider the fact that you’re mistyping a character if you’re struggling to construct an argument.
“This type would not do that!”
I do think there are times when this is appropriate, for example, when discussing a character’s actions, saying “this character’s interest in their environment really gives more Se than Ne.” However whenever I hear XXXX would never do that! It grinds my gears.
Usually, when people say this, it’s highly stereotypical, because technically speaking, each type is capable of anything… it’s why they’re doing it, what’s going on in their head that matters. Now is it unlikely for, say, an Si dom to make impulsive decisions? Perhaps, but it’s not that they can’t. In fact, some of the ISTJs I’ve typed have made very impulsive decisions when their Te or Fi kicked in.
Using your personal relatability to a character to determine their type.
Now this one, out of everything on here kind of annoys me the most. Now, there is nothing wrong with relating to a character and considering the type for them. However your relatability to them also cannot be your only argument to why they fit that type, because you don’t have to be the same type as that character to relate to them.
I’m an INTP, and there are plenty of ISTJ, INFP, ISTP, hell even ESFP characters I relate to. I also don’t think I’ve ever, at least not since starting this blog, have typed a character INTP solely because I find them relatable… in fact, it’s the second to last most typed on this blog.
Have you considered other possibilities for this character?
Typically, unless I’m really sure about a character’s type, I’ll consider at least a few types before deciding on one. I’ll keep these types in mind when watching something, and sometimes will decide on something completely different.
Obviously, you don’t have to do this, everyone’s system of typing is different, but the important thing is, don’t be so fixated on a particular type for a character that you refuse to see or listen to any other argument regarding them.
Don’t automatically assume a character is in a loop or a grip when you type them.
Now, saying a character is in a loop or a grip is not inherently wrong per se- but I will say, that I often see people use this to avoid typing characters certain types.
I have a post I’m working about on loops and grips, but I will say that if you can’t legitimize why a character wouldn’t be that type, even at their healthiest, it’s probably not a good type for them.
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Connor Murphy
Dear Evan Hansen • ESFP • In the Grip
"An ESFP in a rut will revert to their introverted intuition. This normally happy-go-lucky type will turn their vision to the future and may get lost imagining negative courses of action that could develop. They may become crippled by self-doubt and adopt a cynical viewpoint toward others. This normally warm and enthusiastic type is apt to developing a ‘short fuse’ while operating from their inferior function and may lash out at others – imagining a sinister ‘hidden meaning’ behind everything others say and do."
- Heidi Priebe
Symptoms of the Grip in an ESFP:
• Jumping to conclusions
• Believing the worst in people's intentions
• Emotional outbursts
• Feeling lost within themselves; hopeless; alone
• Sensitive to what others say/do to them
I.E.
Jared: "Hey, Connor. I’m loving the new hair length. Very school shooter chic."
Connor turns and glares at Jared, who is unphased by this. Evan is clearly uncomfortable.
Jared: "Calm down, bud. It was a joke."
Connor: (deadpan) "Yeah no, it was funny. I’m laughing. Can’t you tell? Am I not laughing hard enough for you?"
Jared: (walking away, shaking his head) "God, you’re such a freak."
Connor now turns his attention to Evan who is forced into eye-contact. There is no one else in the hall (that we can see). Evan doesn’t know what to do, so he laughs.
Connor: "What are you laughing at?"
Evan: (freezing up) "What?"
Connor: "Stop f***ing laughing at me!"
Evan: (his palms becoming sweaty) "I’m not."
Connor: "You think I’m a freak?"
Connor steps towards Evan.
Evan: "No, I don’t-"
Connor: "I’m not the freak!"
Connor is in Evan’s face.
Evan: "But I wasn’t-"
Connor: "You’re the f***ing freak!"
Connor shoves Evan into the lockers and storms off.
- Script
Connor: "Is this yours? I found it at the printer. 'Dear Evan Hansen?' That’s your name, right?"
Evan: "Oh, that’s just a stupid, it’s a paper I had to write for an, um...assignment."
Connor: “'Because there’s Zoe.' ...This is about my sister."
Evan: "No, no, no..."
Connor: "You knew I would find this."
Evan: "What?"
Connor: "You saw that I was the only other person in the computer lab, so you wrote this, and you printed it out, so that I would find it."
Evan: "Why/ would I do that?"
Connor: "/So I would read some creepy **** that you wrote about my sister and freak out, right? And then you can tell everyone that I’m crazy, right?"
Evan: "No, wait. I don’t even...what?"
Connor: (furious) "F*** you!"
Connor charges past Evan, leaving him calling after him
- Script
Trying to Escape the Grip:
"To break out of a rut, the ESFP needs to engage their extroverted sensing. They will need a new situation, adventure or group of people to help them remember that they think best on their feet, when directly engaged with the world around them. This type requires a great deal of external stimulation to feel healthy and happy – they are the most themselves when they are constantly engaged with new people and projects."
- Heidi Priebe
I.E.
Connor realizes he has an opportunity to talk to someone and walks over to the printers
Connor: "So, uh, what happened to your arm?"
Evan: "Oh, I um. I fell out of a tree."
Connor: (laughing) "You fell out of a tree?"
Evan nods and Connor sits down next to him. He is holding a paper in his hand.
Connor: (still laughing) "Well, if that isn’t the saddest f***ing thing I’ve ever heard."
Evan: (faking a laugh) "I know."
Connor: (pointing to Evan’s cast) "No one’s signed your cast?"
Evan: "Nope."
Connor: "I will."
Evan: "Oh, you don’t have to…"
Connor: "Ya got a Sharpie?"
Evan reluctantly hands over his sharpie. Connor grabs Evan’s arm roughly, Evan winces. Close-up on Evan’s cast as Connor writes his name in massive letters across it. Evan isn’t too happy about this. He stands up.
Evan: "Oh. Great. Thanks."
Connor: "Now we can both pretend that we have friends."
Evan: "Heh, sure."
- Script
Se-Te Loop:
"An ESFP in an Se-Te loop becomes overly concerned with 'doing' all of the time, unable to let themselves stop to take a break. They become forceful, aggressive, insistent upon taking action whether or not it hurts those around them or fulfills their inner sense of duty. They dismiss their necessary stage of stopping to reflect on whether their choices are in line with their values, instead shutting off this voice and focusing on outward manifestations of logic and planning."
- @infj-mbti
Symptoms of a Loop:
• Aggressive Behavior
• Giving In to Impulses
• Disregarding Others
• Ignoring their Moral-Compass (Fi)
I.E.
"Just because Connor isn’t here, trying to punch through my door, screaming at the top of his lungs that he’s going to kill me for no reason—that doesn’t mean that, all of a sudden, we’re the f***ing Brady Bunch."
-Zoe Murphy
Personal Thoughts:
I think Connor is an ESFP who tried to reach out to others, but when no one reached back, just sunk deeper into the grip. I think for awhile growing up (prior to the events in the play), he might've been in a loop.
From Cynthia, we learn that he got clothes to go Bar Mitzvahs (but was never invited to any). I'm sure that the idea of going was exciting to him and he enjoyed looking for an outfit, even if he played it off. From his mom's positive testimony of him in Requiem and throughout the rest of the play, I feel like he did have a connection with her. I don't think that her view of him is only there because she's his mom - I think they genuinely had an understanding, even if they got frustrated with each other sometimes. He probably just put up walls with her - walls that she patiently waited for him to take down, but never did.
Larry "gave him the world," but he gave his own world, not a world that Connor wanted. He didn't meet his son where he was. I'm sure he wanted to hang out with his dad and connect with him, but maybe he wasn't into baseball (or skiing or whatever else his dad pushed him to do). Larry decided, even when Connor was still there, that he wasn't worth investing in because he wouldn't listen anyways. The connection was dead because his dad didn't seek to break down his walls. He saw them and assumed that's all there was.
Zoe saw him as a villain, and for good reason. From what we learn of his time with her, he treated her terribly. He pushed her away. He threatened her. He scared her. Of course she didn't seek him out, why would she? She was forced to protect herself from the monster beating on her door every night. How could she break down his walls when she was building up her own?
Jared joked about him looking like a school shooter and called him a freak, and probably never considered actually trying to befriend him.
Evan was terrified of him. *Though, I would like to point out that Connor probably never got to sign someone's cast before - Evan was probably the first. They could've had a genuine connection after that had Connor listened to Evan explain the letter rather than jumping to conclusions and storming off.
The script says, "Some people [in the school halllway] point at him and snicker. Unlike Evan, Connor makes deliberate eye-contact with these students, making them uncomfortable."
He was hurt. He was alone. He could seek out new experiences and new people all he wanted, but if no one else was receptive, then he would never be satisfied. He wanted a connection with someone, anyone, to pull him out of the grip, but at the end of the day, he felt completely isolated.
But he wasn't, and you're not. If you're feeling stuck or isolated, anxious or depressed, please let a friend/family member know or check out this link and call one of the numbers. Seriously. You were created for a purpose. Your existence matters. You matter, just as you are. Please don't forget that, and get yourself the help that you need!!
Also, even if you don't have clinical depression, you should still reach out to those around you. Sometimes, we all need someone. Don't justify not getting yourself the help you need just because others have it worse. My brother does that all the time. It's not selfish to need support. Reach out. It's okay.
Additionally:
By the time we come to meet Connor, he is so deep in this rut that in order to have a relationship with anyone, he would need someone to seek him out fiercely and intentionally - to toss a rope into the hole Connor was in and pull him out. He needed a friend who would call him out and tell him he needed to calm down, but also someone who would support and encourage him. More than anything, he just needed someone who was willing to try and wasn't going to give up on him.
If you see someone who needs that too, please, be that person for them. Even if you have problems of your own - it doesn't matter. Two horses can pull 3 times the amount than one can alone. You can bear each others' burdens and walk together. It makes it a lot easier. It'll be difficult to step out of your comfort zone and reach out to someone else, but I promise you, it's the most worthwhile experience in the world.
#mbti#mine#esfp#connor murphy#se#fi#te#ni#fi te#ni grip#the grip#mbti grip#mbti loop#esfp loop#esfp grip#dear evan hansen#deh#connor#deh connor#zoe murphy#evan hansen#cynthia murphy#larry murphy#mike faist#se dom#extroverted sensing#extroverted thinking#introverted intuition#introverted feeling#se te loop
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How is a Fe grip (INTP)?
*pretends to look nice and sociable in order to hide their awkwardness, tries too much to make others love them, turns into a social chameleon but actually hates adapting to everyone’s character* (this is from a deleted post by @nefelobatis I think)
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society at this point
mental breakdance
grips aint fun
#mbti#mbti personality types#16 personalites memes#16 personalities#mbti memes#stolen#grip#enfp#infp#intj#entp#infj#enfj#istp#estp#entj#intp#isfj#istj#esfp#isfp#esfj#estj#stolen from twitter#quarantine#lockdown#society
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Me, deep in the mbti rabbit hole again.
#Javi is an esfp caught in an ni grip#and ears is the most entp to have ever entp’d#and INTJ jay is having an absolute blast analyzing the hell out of them
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SJs vs SPs on a flying vehicle
set in a fictional world: exsj and exsj are on a flying vehicle
XSXP: LEMME DRIVE IT *grabs steering wheel*
XSXJ: *concerned* leave enough fuel for the way back!!
XSXP: *unconcerned* *mad grin* *turns up speed dial*
XSXP: that is a problem for future us, not for now
(xsxp goes crazy and crashes said vehicle)
#creds to She Ra#idk if any of you have seen it#somewhere i read#mbti#catra could be an esfp#whos in the grip a bit too much#esfp#enfj#mbti conversations
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Re: ESFP 8w9. [...] Anyways, how do I develop inferior Ni? It’s a pain to be so insecure about future. I want to take control of it more. I’m confident in whatever life throws at me, but whenever I try looking or planning into the future, it stresses me out. I have my goal, right? There will be something that I have to wait and just let it happen (e.g. policy changes, new laws and legislation). It’s these outside forces that I have no control over but can make or break my plan. One of the people I know is INTJ and he has total confident about where these things go. He is almost always spot on about future trends, down to exact month it’ll come in effect. I never see him getting it wrong, not even once. Although he’s rubbish when it comes to actually acting on them.
It’s really not recommended for you to over-focus so much on your inferior function; being obsessed with it and trying to use it (a function that is a source of anxiety for you and is “immature”) will only lead you into a Ni-grip and make you struggle to react, live, and think proactively in the present moment. You are teetering on the edge of that now, so the solution isn’t how to grow Ni, but how to become more solid in your current interests and plans, and assume that what your Ni envision is going to eventually work out, when the time is right for you to leap on that opportunity. Se/Te is really exceptionally good at that, so you should trust that process to take you where you are meant to be down the road. The INTJ is on his path and you are on yours; don’t envy what he has or can see or try to emulate it, just take his advice to heart when making plans for your future.
For me, these things make me really anxious. Because I can’t see the implication of it and where it’ll go. This, in turn, makes me feel like my goal is not going to happen because I can’t see it through to the end. (Only to feel better the next day when better news comes..) Another thing is I can’t really see things beyond the surface. So, when I can’t have physical information to work on (talking face-to-face, evidence, facts), I struggle to see if something is trustworthy or not. It makes me indecisive (which I don’t like) and it slows me down. I want to break this vicious cycle and be more confident in my future.
Stop over-focusing on the future and be more present. Some people can see ahead, others cannot; but not even intuitive dominants can see everything. Then too, people change as they go through life experiences. You may find when you’re 40 that your “life goal” or what you want isn’t the same as when you were nineteen. As for trusting things -- as an 8, listen to your body and your instincts. Don’t process with your mind, listen to your gut. Trust it.
On one hand, I have complete confidence that when the time comes, I’ll know what to do.
This. Hold onto this. You don’t need to fear the future or excessively plan for it, because you will be able to handle it when you get there. You will use what’s available to get what you want.
On the other, the black hole that is future bugs me and tells me 'it won’t happen, you won’t even get a chance’ like a devil whispering in the back of my mind. It’s really hard for me to set a proper long term timeline and I need it to convince myself that my goal is possible. Logically, it’s totally practical and possible. My plan is as pragmatic as it gets.
If this is super important to you, get the INTJ to help you with your timeline or consult with a business planner. Someone with higher Ni and Te will be able to plan this out. Don’t be afraid to outsource, but also remain flexible.
But what if there’s some higher power who hates my gut?
There isn’t.
What if suddenly Biden sees fit to put this and that legislation to use, for example. What will happen?
Then you will find a workaround.
These uncontrollable factors can make or break my whole plan. And that eats away at my confidence. I don’t fear reality, but I fear what lies behind it.
You said your plan is solid and practical. That means it has legs and you can trust that at some point, somehow, with hard work and determination, you can make it happen.
Truth be told, I’m tired of self-medicating with astrologers lol.
Start, instead, asking yourself what you can do today to get you closer to your eventual goal and then do it. :)
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is it possible for a soc-blind ESFP to mistype as an ENTJ? or would this just be an ENTJ with higher Se as a result of ennea + variants
[inf Ne voice] everything is possible
#usually Se-doms have enough self-awareness that they don't mistype as judgers#but maybe in a Ni grip or something#soc blind esfp sounds kinda fake tho
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