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Val i don't think you are sxblind bc you have the fire and passion of sx users and seem very outspoken while sxblinds have a hard time determining how they feel about things an can tolerate things that bother them and you are quick to judge what you don't agree with

I don't think what you're describing is variants related. I know outspoken sx-blinds and easygoing sx users. Actually i think sx-blind descriptions are very exagerated, they're portrayed as boring, bland, with no interests of their own, unpassionate conformists... And SX seems like a romanticized abstract idea and not anything concrete. They say "if you are an INTENSE and PASSIONATE person who's constantly seeking stimulation and desires a deep soulmate-like bond where you become one with somebody else THEN you have SX"... And of course who wouldn't like such beautiful descriptions to be part of their identity? Especially me since i have spent my whole life feeling that my intensity is what makes me different from others. Trust me, I don't like being SO/SP, i liked the idea of being SX/SP SX/SO or at least SO/SX... It gave me that ego validation. But it's not realistic, i have to be honest with myself.

Although lack of passion or intensity are certainly not a problem i experience, i do have some things that i consider sx-blind. The main one being i have a great difficulty connecting with others in any sense: as a whole ("a group", acquaintances) and intimately (strong friendships, feeling kind of deatched from relationships). For example... with my classmates i'm usually very friendly and they all like me (i mean it) but they're so open (most of them are sp-blinds) and tell me really private stuff as if trying to connect beyond what's "proper" with me and i usually tune them out because it makes me feel uncomfortable that they're being so vulnerable and i can't show them the same thing, some of them have actually told me that my impersonal behavior makes them feel kinda awkward. And i get envious of the kind of private bonds all of them seem to have with each other and yet i don't make any effort to make them my friends, i rather just stay superficially nice and counter attack my shame saying "well, it would be weird to connect with someone who's going to be my future coworker and they're all shallow anyways, they would never understand my kind of depth". And this has happened my whole life. Everything i just said sounds sx-blind to me. The second thing being that i have a weird concept of chemistry and attraction... For example, i started going out with my current boyfriend as only a random hookup, i only liked him physically at first but we became closer each day tho it wasn't until we were 2 months in that i realized "wow maybe this is more than a casual thing and i'm falling in love with him"... My sx/so friend got surprised that i became partners with someone i didn't feel that "innitial spark" with, and i'm sure other sx users would say the same thing. Now that we're together it's not that "loving, safe, but normal!" Relationships sx-blinds supposedly get used to. It certainly is intense and i feel the urge to connect our souls into one and it has high expectations, but it's not unhealthy. And the point is, i didn't build our relationship based on those things... It is something that it's happening with time. Unlike all the sx users i know who say they wouldn't even consider friends someone with who they didn't have such a strong chemistry from the beginning. This isn't happening to me right now but I also think i have experienced "sx overfocus" before... It's like having such powerful bond becomes a weird "i have never felt like this and if i let this person go i'll never do again because i won't be able to be so vulnerable with someone else" obsessive thing. But i think an actual sx user is more able to detach and move on once the spark is over (i can't even recognize when it is) because they know those bonds are something natural and they will find them again.

I also don't know how accurate visual typing is but the thing is i have seen pictures of so/sx and sx/so people and i don't have the same vibes™ as them. I don't have the warmth and openness of so/sx or the fireness of sx/so... I look more soft yet uptight, friendly yet closed off. And i'm sure if someone here saw a picture of me, you would say "sx-blind" right away.

Finally, i have read these type of posts by @glitter-nemesis and i relate heavily to each word written there. So why would someone who's not so/sp identify so much with those descriptions?

sp-blinds are too different from each other... SO/SXs feel extremely comfortable doing soc stuff, SX/SOs seem as if they had no soc at all... And i don't think i'm either of those. Being a SO/SP would explain why i literally DESPISE everything related to soc and yet it's obviously my dom instinct... I also think i go into "sp-withdrawal" when i'm tired of soc which is often

So to sum it up, yes i'm a SO/SP, but my whole identity is still based around being passionate and intense, i still feel dead if i don't have stimulation, i'm still constantly seeking a deep soul merging bond... But you have to accept your blindspot's weaknesses and i do, being unable to truly connect with others is one of my biggest flaws and major source of stress.

That's it. I'm sorry i wrote so much, i had a lot to say!!! I would add a "read more" but i'm on mobile 🙄. I hope what i said makes some sense at least.

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Enneagram 4-Tritypes

451

This tritype may come off reserved to the extreme and seem the most “5ish” especially if the 4 has a 5 wing as well, due to the two types, 5 and 1 being very reserved types. 1 is reserved because they feel they need self control, whereas 5 is reserved because they don’t want to be emotionally involved, and both of these war with the inherent emotional richness of the 4 enneagram type. They may be very staunch at first, but 1, although a very self controlled type, is a passionate type as well, and this will mix with the type 4 in this tritype, giving them a creative, inspirational drive, while also maintaining a somewhat detached lens on life. They will seem to withdraw and spontaneously engage with reality, off in their own little world, quite literally. Though they may seem very serious though, their opinions and reflections on things and interpretations may come off very odd or artistically inclined, possibly metaphor heavy, or just generally laden with emotion though their appearance would be deceiving.  Fairly realistic perspectives. A more introverted tritype.

458

Blunt type, doubled by the 5′s somewhat impartial observational nature and the 8′s confrontational one, this 4 can come off “headstrong.” Intense combo, especially if sx is the primary instinct. May be arrogant in their convictions and unopen to suggestions, “I’ve thought about this longer than you and even if you could have a point, I still thought about it longer and I’m absolutely not going to take the opinion of someone who didn’t ruminate on it as long or longer than me! I stand my ground!” Though, they can also quite intelligent and able to lead when necessary because, while arrogant, they can sometimes come to reasonable conclusions. Somewhat dark, prone to emotional turbulence and disturbance. Rich fantasy life. Sometimes may become annoyed with how “inactive” someone seems to be in their situation while they themselves, due to 5 and 4 are quite withdrawn and ruminate rather than act to solve a problem in a hypocrisy that flies over their head, though spotting ways to solve someone else’s problems can be easy for them and they give fairly sound advice. Can be somewhat misanthropic or bitter but to them they’re being realistic, desires to be understood but withdraws from attempts to understand.

459

Fantasy prone tritype, and while they may seem to be all off in la la land, the 5 in their tritype can jar people with surprising commentary on observations of events that people hadn’t even thought the 459 had noticed! Less confrontational or rigid than the 451 or 458, they want emotional harmony in their environment and probably won’t interrupt it, even if they really should. Good mediators due to this quality as well, they wouldn’t want to upset people. Though, they can come off a bit chameleon like in adjusting themselves to the situation through 9, the 4 will be sifting through many emotions and things to identify with. It can give this tritype an almost unreal quality, and the 4 can feel lost in the many emotional blends. However, when balanced, they can exude a very harmonic atmosphere, at ease with themselves and others and to stop the 5 will give some sense of reality in their observations and thoughts lest they get lost and buried under the mixture of 4 and 9, this tritype is very introverted and has a very soothing, calm quality to them, compassionate yet realistic in helping others. Though they seem very calm on the outside probably have a very, very active internal world and may sometimes communicate it through various abstract art forms.

461

Tentative but full of convictions. Dreamy, yet sharply focused. Suspicious, and very specific and detail oriented. Yearns to be accepted and fit in among others yet feels they don’t fit in, and can be ridiculed. Focuses and hones in on mistakes, even if they don’t matter, of their own or others. More of an introverted tritype. Takes pride in being different yet also may feel attacked for it. Tightly wound. Anxious. Somewhat torn between conforming to avoid being singled out, and acting a outrageously as possible to define their individuality. 4 seeks out what they identify with, whereas 6 is confused as to what they do identify with, so there may be a constant internal war of “Who am I?” and “This is who I am!” only to have “Who am I?” reoccur the very next day. Supportive, though they can seem very nit-picky towards what doesn’t seem to matter due to the 1 in the tritype, undue suspicion, “That statement could be interpreted differently…are they hiding something from me?” Regardless, they are good at sniffing the truth out, be it imagined or true. Defensive of what they believe in, and have detailed arguments to prove it, aided by 1 and thought out. This tritype is a person of passion and convictions.

468

More of an introverted tritype than extroverted. Somewhat fearful, so in turn confrontational, justice seeker, somewhat turbulent. Also very blunt as is 458, though likely to be more aggressive and prompting. Inquisitive and very reactive. Sensitive, possibly belligerent. Calls things out as they see them, though outspoken still an introverted type.  Sees the risk of situations and warns others, though sometimes misses the fact that they can come off a little bit too opinionated and reactive in proportion to the actual situation. Challenging. Very intense blend. Somewhat impulsive. Assertive. May feel that “everyone is out to get them” although it may not be true, when more developed, gain trust of others as they know this tritype will look out for them and protect them from what they perceive as something potentially harmful though. Emotionally reactive, rebellious, quite an interesting blend.

469

This tritype is more withdrawn and introverted, due to 9 and 4. Somewhat anxious but fairly friendly though quiet, considering and thoughtful, hesitant.  Very in their head. Peaceful. Introspective, ruminating. Wants to know how they fit into the world. Deep capability for feeling and thinking about what they are feeling. Self conscious. Less impulsive as they’re caught up on not making a mistake, thinks thoroughly before acting but sometimes will hesitate too much and be too passive. Torn between inaction and upsetting people by possible actions. Somewhat self conscious. Seeks (credible) advice. More phobic. Though they are introspective, do seek people out. Feel left out because of their differences and would like to “blend in” lest their differences cause problems sometimes.

471

More of a happy go lucky person due to 7, intense emotions but imbues them with positivity, and even possibly avoids negative ones. Energetic and enthusiastic, inquisitive, curious, ready to take action, somewhat flighty and impulsive while still maintaining a set of convictions and values from 1 and experiencing a deep well of emotion in their activities from 4. Openness to experience, adventurous but still somewhat reserved. Though they enjoy social activities, they may tire after a while and withdraw. Probably come off reserved at first, but reveal a playful nature as you get to know them, while still experiencing deep emotions. Can avoid emotions they don’t like though, and nit pick through, seeming oblivious to a very obvious crisis. Self controlled. Willing to teach others, easy team player though they still feel something is different or off about them, wise in a playful yet honest manner.

478

Probably comes off extroverted, what with 7 and 8 both in the mix. Very direct, and assertive. A lot more relaxed than say, 458 or 468, they’re probably going to the one who tells 458 to loosen up, and 468 to lighten up. High energy. Intense. Bold. Creative. Self expressive. Can be scattered and belligerent as well as highly emotional if underdeveloped, positive and excitable, emotionally honest, friendly when they are. Impulsive, risk takers. Challenge the norm. Take pride in their individuality, not likely to conform. Innovative, enjoys their freedom. Somewhat flamboyant. Eccentric, individualistic. Probably not as emotional in the “moping” sense but in a more loss of self control, “angry” outbursts manner, but at their best, engaging, influential, encouraging, vibrant, bright, and unique to themselves.

479

Positive, more relaxed than 478, less active but still have a “the cup is half full” attitude. Helpful, peaceful. Introspective. May avoid negative feelings, due to both 7 and 9, either running from or minimizing unsavory experiences. Daydreamers. Idealistic. Lighthearted yet still meaningful. Gentle impact rather than overwhelming on others, can affect them and buoy their moods, keep them out of the dumps, but they’re not too excited. Soothing quality. Introverted type, though amicable. Creative pursuits, be it ideas of thought or expressed through some artistic venue. Dreamy and imaginative, less grounded.

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Why do you prefer IEIE/EIEI model over EEII/IIEE (and IEEE/EIII, if you want make it broader)? And what are your thoughts on this model?

The Grant Stack has always been more theoretically solid than the nucleus stack. Both are just two different interpretations of Jung’s work – both of them make pretty good points, but overall the Grant Stack solves the explanation of the ego/personality better than the nucleus.

In my opinion, the nucleus stack fails at providing theoretically coherence to the dualism of the cognitive functions (I’m not gonna talk about the myersian stack because the IEEE/EIII model doesn’t make any sense if we take into account that cognitive functions are meant to be understood in tandems – f.e you can’t understand Fi without Te).

The problem with this issue being brought out now by typologytok remains in the arguments made against the Grant Stack, which usually show a lack of understanding of what the Grant Stack is really about (this debate has been going on for like 6 years on the typologycafe forum? typologytok hasn’t invented anything here). The Grant Stack contemplates the idea of you developing and relating to two functions with the same extroverted or introverted attitude, and the auxiliary function isn’t the “second one you relate the most to” – which is an argument I’ve seen a lot to discredit the EIEI – IEIE stack.

The Grant Stack is, nowadays, the most accurate, effective and realistic stack to define the flexibility of the cognitive functions usage. It’s also more theoretically precise while allowing people to understand that they’re a unique example of their type. Have you ever read any book that actually explains the dynamic of the nucleus stack? There aren’t many of them, and I’m yet to come across a solid essay that defends what’s the actual applicability of a pure ego conducted by two functions with the same attitude.

People talk about the nucleus stack like it is a Jungian stack. Jung didn’t care about a stack; for him there are 8 personality types, as the dominant function is what creates them. In any case, if Jung were to read about a stack he will probably agree with the Grant stack as many of his books imply that the dominant function requires a function with a different attitude to deal with the inferior one (check Jung 1925 seminars and “los complejos y el inconsciente” (1933) – sorry I don’t know the title in English)

To finish my brief argumentation… I’ve seen on the Internet people trying to say that – following the nucleus stack – an INTP can be TiNi and TiNe. If that’s the case, what actually means to be an INTP? This proposed typology destroys the essential difference between functions with two different attitudes.

PD: Daryl Sharp makes a pretty solid take when he says that there isn’t a tertiary function, but that there are actually two auxiliary functions. So, if you are NiFeTiSe, you are dom NI (aux Fe-Ti) and inf Se. That’s interesting.

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Druk worried about Kya. After all, he could breathe fire just a couple weeks after he was born. Kya was 7 months old and still hadn’t breathed fire even once! Druk knew it was his responsibility to teach her.

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What did you think of Zuko stealing Katara’s mother’s necklace and then using it to track her down and then tie her to a tree? I don’t get how someone can ship Zutara after seeing that.

Hello anon!

First of all. Zuko didn’t steal Katara’s mother’s necklace. He found it in the episode Imprisoned.

No, of course it wasn’t nice of Zuko to use it to track down Katara and then later tie her to a tree. All Zutara shippers know that. But it doesn’t stop us from shipping Zutara because it is a ship that is in the enemies to lovers trope and we like that trope. It’s not a trope that’s for everyone, that’s understandable. But Zutara shippers are obviously okay with it. So listing things that Zuko did to Katara while he was her enemy in an attempt to get us to hate Zutara isn’t going to work.

Zuko doing that to Katara was not okay at all. But as far as enemy interactions go, I found Zuko to be remarkably tame with Katara. After Katara refused to tell him where Aang was for the second time, he instead threatened the pirates by threatening to burn the expensive waterbending scroll. Again, it was obviously still a villain move.

But I’ve seen many other scenarios similar to this one in other stories go way more horribly for the hero that is captured by the villain. Zuko could have threatened to burn Katara if she did not reveal where Aang was. But he didn’t. Zuko had the upper hand there. Katara was tied to a tree. She couldn’t do anything. But instead he didn’t threaten her.

As far as enemies to lovers ships go, Zutara is an incredibly tame ship, I feel. Zuko wasn’t even hunting Katara herself, but Aang. Katara was just in his way. There have been other enemies to lovers ships where the villain is actively trying to hurt the hero. Zuko wasn’t trying to hurt Katara. He did hurt her, yes. But that wasn’t his goal. And he did everything in his power to make up for it and she forgave him wholeheartedly.

So yes anon, I and many others ship Zutara despite the fact that Zuko tied Katara to tree. Sorry if that disappoints you.

Thanks for the ask! I truly enjoyed making this post.

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why is sheldon cooper INTP instead of INTJ or ISTJ? isn't he clearly a J by the structure he imposes on his own life and others'?

That’s simple. Sheldon is not a Te-user, thus he cannot be IXTJ.

Subjective logic, not factual external logic. Ti-dom. Can you prove it, Sheldon? Nope. Just thought it up. Seems logical. He analyzes, not implements. Ti.

Theorizes, conceptualizes, is somewhat distract-able, and tends to leap in before he’s done theorizing or formulating, so he often screws up because of impulsive behavior in spite of logical soundness. Ti-Ne.

Then there’s his Si. I can’t eat this hamburger, it doesn’t have the same amount of pickles as last time, and I insist on having that number of pickles. Sheldon likes same-ness. He notices if things are different. He can be insanely anal about change. He likes the consistency of a routine in menial things (lifestyle, gaming, eating, etc).

Chastising, judging other people, craving approval and affirmation in his desire to be acknowledged as a genius — all Fe. Sheldon lets people know EXACTLY how he feels about stuff, all the time. Sure, some of it is based in Ti-logic, but it shows externally in tantrums and his craving for affirmation. Specifically, that’s inferior Fe.

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My bff are ISTJ and ENTJ so yes to the last statement

Who are ESFPs usually best friends with?

Just considering numbers, there are a lot of ESFPs out there to have best friends, and a lot of other ES types to fill that position.

I would also think there are a sizeable number of IS and ENT-types.

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I love her 💕

Karolina Zebrowska

Anonymous asked:

Karolina Żebrowska - some sort of xNTJ? I think she has Te and Ni

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All of these makes me still believe in the common sense of people 🙌🏽👏🏽

How on earth could you put Elsa down as ISTJ? She's absolutely INFJ.

If Elsa were an INFJ she wouldn’t have any of the problems she had in Frozen. An INFJ’s most dominant characteristic is introverted intuition and their secondary characteristic is extroverted feeling. She absolutely uses neither of these functions throughout the film. 

What we see is a character who bases her decisions on past experiences. She can’t see herself as anyone but someone who hurts others, so she runs away. She hurt someone once, so clearly that is all she can do (according to her logic). This is very introverted sensing. This function uses past experiences in order to make decisions. If introverted intuition was her major characteristic we would have seen an Elsa who had more control over her powers and herself. An INFJ has more control over their own mind than other types. However, Elsa is really detached from her intuition.

If she also used an extroverted feeling she would be far more meddling in Anna’s choices. However, she is perfectly fine with Anna just leaving the palace. She loves her sister, but if her sister doesn’t like how things are run Elsa doesn’t see why she can’t just go. Elsa isn’t focused on helping Anna or anyone around her with their own conflicts. She is more concerned with logical organization. She doesn’t want Anna marrying Hans because of the decision wasn’t thought through, it isn’t based on Elsa being concerned with Anna’s happiness. Not that she doesn’t care for Anna. Cause we clearly know she does. But her secondary function isn’t one that is capable of dealing with other people and their emotions. INFJ is a diplomat type. This means being more inclined to have a bit more tact when dealing with people in situations like this.

Elsa doesn’t have this kind of tact, because she has extroverted thinking. She keeps trying to organize her life externally in order to deal with her internal struggles. Whether it is putting on the gloves to control her emotional issues or taking herself away from everyone. Elsa’s journey as a character is one that could really use some introverted intuition, but is an ISTJ with magical powers. She has to work on her weaker functions in order to get to the ending we see at the end of Frozen.

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Similarities between INTJ and ESFP #2

The closer you are to them, the more honest and straightforward they are to you. Sorry not sorry.

(They are straightforward anyway but it gets "worse")

Similarities between ESFP and INTJ #1

If you look closely you can tell by their face that they hate you, and you’re right, but they will never say it out loud

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Tengo un hermanito pequeño que es ESFP y pensé en pedirte algún consejo ya que comparten type (se que no son todos iguales pero quizás sirva) Que cosas podrían ser difíciles, molestas o estresantes para este type? Y que les agrada más?

ay qué mensaje más cutee

a mi personalmente me molesta mucho que me digan lo que puedo hacer y lo que no, en general cualquier cosa que coarte mi libertad me fastidia. Que no me dejen elegir por mí misma, que no me dejen hacer las cosas con mis manos, por mi cuenta, que me controlen todo lo que hago... en general todo lo que sea restricción de libertad o elección me frustra mucho.

ODIO profundamente que me ignoren. Si tu hermano dice algo hazle caso, no le ignores, eso seguramente le ofenderá mucho.

Tampoco soporto que me atosiguen pero eso creo que es bastante genérico jaja

A los ESFP tampoco les gusta que no les pillen las gracias cuando intentan hacer reír a alguien, es decir, la gente excesivamente seria o que le busca la puntilla a todo... nos aburre, no nos gusta.

Y nos agrada mucho que cuenten con nosotros para hacer cosas, sobre todo experiencias y probar cosas nuevas. Que confíen en nosotros (sentirnos únicos porque nos contáis algo a nosotros primero) y en general que nos tengan en cuenta y se den cuenta de que estamos, de que existimos, y no nos pasen por alto.

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Cuál/ es serían las diferencias más claras de ser fi primario a tener un fi terciario bien desarrollado? Y podrían haber causas (no intencionales) para que un fi terciario se desarrollé temprano?

En este vídeo cuento cómo es Fi en todas las posiciones!

Y en este post de instagram (en inglés) incido más en cómo son las funciones terciarias cuando son sanas y están desarrolladas:

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¡Espero que te ayude!

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Why do we sometimes act like our opposite types? (ex. ISFJ/ENTP, ISFP/ENTJ, ISTP/ENFJ, etc)

It is said that our opposite is our aspirational self, it is how we wished we were, or how we aspire to be (when healthy and mature). So thorough our inferior function... sometimes... we tend to flip the way we think and act, but is less likely to do so in a healthy way, since our inferior and tertiary functions are unconscious most of the time.

But I guess that, given the fact that we share all the functions but in different order, in some situations when we're fed up or just tired of the shit of everyone, or we just want to be self-indulgent, we act pretty differently than we usually do, and it's more likely to "adopt" an opposite personality that still shares our principal functions.

this is all my theory, tho. But I do admit I sometimes realize I have been very "INTJ-ish" sometimes so i think there's a point somewhere xd

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what characters / character do you associate with infp 3w4

I've been thinking a lot about it and... there are none. INFP 3 is an unlikley combination and I can't think about any character with it :( sorry!

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what about intj 5w4 and entp 7w8 relationship? would it work? is there analogies in fiction?

it is said that INTJ x ENTP are a golden pair, although (I DONT KNOW WHY) ENFP x INTJ is the typical one everybody simps for.

Anyway, I personally don't find Ti x Te relationships very... likely to last if they're both stubborn, because they are two functions too different and harsh when arguing, so if they disagree....

But if they not, I think they provide good new insights about life to one another. And I'd say enneagrams 5 x 7 is quite likely to get on well. Soooo good luck. Everything's possible.

The ONLY example I can think of right now is a couple original characters of mine that are siblings loool. My INTJ x ENTP have a special connection, they understand each other without the necessity of words and tend to trust each other very easily, although INTJ sometimes just decides to not answer more questions to ENTP lol, but she (ENTP) doesn't bother at all. It's the hyper x calm dynamic I like a lot.

Here you go their aesthetics for the sake of self-promotion lmao (and because I think it's cool to put some aesthetic to characters you know nothing about)

- it's 1909 btw