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This was literally all I could think during that scene.
#dead boy detectives#dead boy detectives spoilers#edwin payne#charles rowland#crystal palace#crystal palace surname von hoverkraft#makes more sense when you know her parents are neglectful performance artists#But still#she does not have room to talk shit about anyone’s names#glass houses#dead boy detectives fanart
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obsessed with them.
#literally on the edge of my seat every time george opens his mouth#because we’re about to get either a very intelligent well thought out response or the most out of pocket insanity#i love the way he says ‘jasper’#like an exasperated parent#george rexstrew#jayden revri#kassius nelson#yuyu kitamura#they’re so chaotic#kassius being completely unimpressed by jayden#and yuyu being very impressed by everyone#edwin payne#charles rowland#payneland#crystal palace#niko sasaki#dead boy detectives#dbd#starlightseraph’s brainrot
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highkey in love with the idea that when it comes to their relationship, charles and edwin are the complete opposites of their usual behaviour.
charles, normally with zero impulse control or patience, is so so so careful and attentive with edwin, concerned about doing it all just right, spending hours planning their dates and content to take it all slow
meanwhile edwin, normally prim and proper and patient and self-disciplined, has repressed his wants and needs and feelings for 100+ years and now that he no longer has to?? he has no fucks left to give and will kiss charles senseless whenever he damn well wants to
#payneland#paynland#charles rowland#edwin payne#dead boy detectives#i have so many thoughts about this#about how edwin's trauma just leads to him saying “fuck it” and going for what he wants#while charles' trauma leads to him wanting to do everything the right way bc his only relationship example is his parents
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The one tiny gesture that is still on my mind is Edwin fixing the collar of Charles' coat when he's trying to console him about being a good person. I always think of Rexstrew talking about in interviews how Edwin would have grown up in a time where any showing of affection would have been frowned upon. He's doing the absolute most for Charles in that scene within the boundaries of what he thinks are still acceptable. No damn wonder he froze when Charles reciprocates the gesture with the most heartfelt, thankful hug.
#dead boy detectives#also I'm just a bitch for people showing care to each other by fixing clothing. idk what about that but it kills me every time.#wonder if edwin never been hugged ever during that 30 years#I know rexstrew's hc is that he wasn't even hugged by his parents#dead boy detectives spoilers#dbda#dead boy detective agency#edwin payne
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“The puppy is new.”
Ink and watercolour illustration for my Payneland fic Eight Seconds. In this scene, Charles for the first time invites Edwin to watch his parents together.
#dead boy detectives#save dead boy detectives#payneland#edwin payne#charles rowland#charles rowlands parents#dbda art#dbda fanart#fanfic#eight seconds#drawing#ink#watercolour
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i get such a sense of primal envy when looking at edwin’s clothes up close because god you can just tell his coat is real wool and made to last and not cheap flimsy mass produced garbage and auggagghhhh that was just STANDARD in his time. by no means am i saying i was #borninthewronggeneration because i like having vaccines and household appliances but. man. to have a personally-tailored coat like that that’d last for years and years……. and fabrics of fine thread-dense quality………. if only
#edwin would be so disgusted by shein products can you fucking imagine#i mean he’d be disgusted by most mass produced brand/off-brand clothing but fast fashion shit like that would be the Worst#thank god for the fact that I don’t think anyone in the group would wear that kinda shit. for wildly different reasons#crystal wouldn’t because why the fuck would she. she can afford the most expensive high quality shit on the market. and even if she goes#thrifting you can just tell if something looks/feels like cheap garbage she’d not even touch it#niko’s a fashion icon and constantly changing her outfits BUT she seems like the type who loves repurposing old clothing/re-arranging things#in her wardrobe and making different combinations rather than buying new clothes all the time and wasting perfectly good clothing#plus she wasn’t raised in America and likely did not get normalized to fast fashion#charles doesn’t because. well#you know.#ghost. and whatnot#even so I doubt his parents bought him clothes that often so he’d have to either save up the money to buy stuff he wants (probably thrifted)#or repurpose old clothes in various ways. his coat absolutely looks high quality and I bet he saved up like crazy for it#rambling#edwin#dead boy detectives#edwin payne
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Jealous Edwin (already made 2 posts about Charles' jealousy so now it's Edwin's turn)
Love this one too even if he clearly has no idea what it means
#for a more complete compilation please refer to the entire show#edwin's jealousy feels very edwardian too#edwin makes it look like crystal's a homewrecker when she's just trying to help people and find her own parents 💀 rip#edwin payne#payneland#paynland#charles x edwin#dead boy detectives
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do you think edwin ever went back home at somepoint hes well aware hes been gone far to long to see his parents alive and old but theres a small hope that maybe... he has other family that have been keeping the house and hed be able to at least see his family history and maybe proof that he wasnt forgotten completely hoping to see even a box with his stuff from his old room or a photo of him kept up with his parents so he goes alone
but he gets there and not only is the house empty its been renovated more modern standing in this white marble space hes reminded how out of place he really is in the world he really has been forgetten from the world his room repainted its like he never existed it looks to be somesort of office the attic is empty theres no piece of his parents left this isnt his home anymore its just a shell of his former self and who he can never truly be again hes just as alone as he was in hell
so he leaves and when charles asks he tells him it was nice well lived in home to a little family that arent his so he wont be going back it seems to satisfy charles and he leaves it be and edwin cant help but clutch at the notebook in his breastpocket its the last piece of his family hell ever have
#i just like adding to edwins sadness like charles still has his parents he can look in on edwin truly is alone im sure theres more paynes#out there but his parents buried his existences pretty well after he died they dont know about him#dead boy detectives#edwin payne#ant posts stuff#fic stuff
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#dead boy detectives#dbda#niko sasaki#edwin payne#crystal palace#charles rowland#i know who i consider her to be closest to#but i'm curious to see what everyone else thinks#i'm also excluding somewhat obvious answers like her parents bc i'm referring to on screen relationships only for this
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Kidnapper: *calls him* we have your dad
Edwin: which on- actually nevermind doesn't really matter as long as you only got one.
Kidnapper: wha- *explosion noises*
Aziraphale: oh dear is he quite alright? Sir can you hear me?
Crowley: Angel ! Are you al- stop checking on the kidnapper for you know who's sake!
Aziraphale: oh but-
Edwin: ... told you
#innefable husbands#aziraphale#crowley#good omens#GO#aziraphale x crowley#aziraphale/crowley#azicrow#crowazi#back on my innefable husbands as edwin's parents bullshit#edwin payne#edwin paine#dead boy detective agency#dead boy detectives#edwin dbd#dbd netflix#dbda
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part 1
“Waiting for the other shoe to drop”, while pessimistic, seemed to be a running theme in Charles Rowland’s life. It wasn’t really a phrase he heard when he was alive, to be fair, but at some point he’d come across it (probably hanging out with too many Americans, but can’t remember for sure) and it felt a little too much accurate. His dad’s come home angry again? Time to wait for the fallout. He’d gotten written up at school for not paying attention? Just a disaster waiting to happen. He goes against his best mate’s advice? There he goes, literally torn from Charles’s arms and back to hell, just as he’d said. Maybe the last one was a little dramatic, but that’s the gist.
The looming anxiety of it all usually slid off of him for the minor stuff, and was otherwise bottled up and shoved far away for the heavier stuff, but regardless he didn’t let it show. Have to keep up appearances and all. He’d only had one real instance of all those emotions blowing up (and he still blames the Night Nurse for all that mess) so he thought he was doing a bang-up job keeping himself together.
That was until his dad died. Yeah, it was rough, and he ended up berating the old man on his death bed, which probably was a shitty thing to do. And yeah, he’d needed a bit of a cry afterwards. So what? Blokes cried sometimes, and he was man enough to admit to his emotions and all that. The girls had done a good job of emphasising that he (and, mostly, Edwin) needed to express their emotions more. That it was healthier to let it out than bottle it all up. Not sure if they still needed healthy habits as ghosts, but it wasn’t hurting anyone. Just a little uncomfortable.
All that to say, it felt like his friends had been treading on eggshells around him ever since his dad died. Which was infuriating, yeah, but also didn’t make sense to him. Especially after he’d already cried—did they expect him to get angry again? To blow up over a dead man? He thought he’d gotten it out of his system just fine, so getting these weird vibes was starting to stress him out more than anything. He’d resolved to bring it up on their next movie night and ask why they were acting funny—didn’t want to mess up a case, after all.
However, he didn’t get the chance before it all came crashing down on his head. Ultimately, Edwin was the messenger.
“Charles, I—“ he took an unnecessary breath, “Have you checked on your mother lately?”
His undead heart went cold, but his default smiley ways were still stuck on, “Not really, why?”
Edwin’s eyes were sad, which was never good. He didn’t emote unless it was serious, “I think you need to visit her. She’s not faring well.”
And so they went. Turns out everyone hadn’t been waiting for Charles to blow up, but rather for his mother to pass and then for him to break down all over again. Edwin had been checking on her daily since his father’s passing, deducing correctly that Charles would be too swept up in the emotions around his dad dying to remember that his mum wasn’t getting any younger.
The girls weren’t free until the evening, but they promised to stay in touch and maybe visit later if they could (particularly if they could figure out how to visit the Hospice without rousing suspicion). And so Edwin and Charles were on their own.
Charles had rushed into the room, as if running at the issue would evade the emotions of it, or as if getting there quickly would reveal it was all a lie—neither of which were true.
Instead, he was face to face with a dying woman with some resemblance to the photo on the mantle in the house he grew up in—his grandmother, or maybe his great grandmother, or some favourite aunt, he couldn’t remember anymore— hair gone fully white, pulled back into a tight bun so as to keep her curls controlled, keeping her gaunt, sleeping face exposed. Unlike that photo, this woman was in a hospital gown, tucked into sterile sheets, with a tube under her nose to help her breathe. Gone were her usually loud and ornate earrings, her bare fingernails stained from years of colour. There was a singular blanket laid across her lap, on top of the sheets, that almost looked more familiar than the woman it covered. It was her, but apparently he hadn’t stopped to just look at her any time recently, if ever. It felt too much like looking at a ghost, as ironic as that felt.
She was awake, but halfway to dozing. There was someone at her side, adjusting the blanket and murmuring reassurances in what was definitely Punjabi. It had been so long since he’d heard it, added to having never properly learned anything besides English under the threat of his father, that he couldn’t make out the words. That realisation left a stinging feeling in his chest.
“A relation of yours?” Edwin asked at a whisper, coming up to stand beside Charles, almost entirely copying his position from that fateful hospital room. It didn’t seem as if either of the room’s living occupants had noticed them.
Charles blindly reached for Edwin’s hand for comfort, not looking away from the scene in front of him and matching his partner’s volume, “No idea. Don’t think I’ve seen them before.”
Edwin hummed, “Perhaps a little too young to have met you. Or someone your mother reconnected with recently—“
“I’m not really in the mood for deductions, love.” Charles said, not unkindly. Everything felt too fragile to be picked apart like that.
“Right. Apologies.” Edwin squeezed his hand and went quiet.
Charles squeezed his hand back in forgiveness, joining in the silence. He kept going back to what the stranger was saying, familiar consonants both soothing and devastating. What kind of a son was he, failing to comfort his dying mother, unable to speak her mother tongue, a stranger to his relatives? His tears were thankfully silent.
It took much longer for his mother to see them than his father. Several days passed, with the mystery relative coming and going more days than not, and the usual nurses and caregivers administering various care. Over time, the boys (the girls couldn’t figure out how to enter the space, but were supportive from their distance) had learned that the stranger’s name was Sangeeta, and she was a niece of his mother’s who’d noticed her steady decline and was the one to take her to hospital and then to hospice care. Charles’s mother had apparently stopped taking care of herself after her husband’s death, and she had refused other care, so at this point all they could do was make her comfortable. Charles spent a whole morning ranting to Edwin about it, how unfair it was that her life was so tied up in his asshole father’s that she wasn’t even trying to live after he was gone. Edwin, the deeply kind person he was, had let Charles rant until he ran out of steam, then gently pointed out that she’d been under the thumb of his father for far longer than Charles was, and that she’d now had to mourn her husband and her only child, which presumably takes a toll. Charles had started crying before Edwin had even finished talking, and Edwin had held him close on the plush sofa for the rest of the day.
It was hard to tell if it was a comfort or not when she finally saw them, but Charles decided that wasn’t important to think about right now, if ever. Right now, his mother could see him for the first time in forty years, and they didn’t know for how much longer. And yet, with all this time to prepare, he still found himself speechless when the time finally came.
“Mere laal,” She beat him to the punch, eyes glazed over but clearly locked on Charles, “I am glad to see you again, beta. It’s been so long.”
Charles let out a shakey breath, “Hi, mum. It’s—well— it’s been longer for you. I’ve visited a few times, over the years.”
She reached out a sinewy hand on a bone-thin arm, and Charles flew to the seat by her side, keeping his focus to make sure his hand stayed solid in her grasp. He vaguely noticed Edwin taking the seat beside him.
“Such a handsome boy. You were so young.” Tears welled up in her eyes.
Charles, all anxious energy and nerves, tears of his own threatening to spill, was quick to respond, “It’s alright, mum, I’m alright. No need to cry over me.”
She huffed, “Nonsense. You were the light of my life. Who else should I cry over?”
They were both crying at this point, tears streaming as they sniffled in turns. Edwin laid a careful hand on Charles’s back in a show of comfort.
However, that seemed to give Charles an idea, “No, really mum, it’s okay! See the bloke next to me? His name’s Edwin, and he’s been by my side all these years! He’s the one who first found me, and we’ve been helping people ever since. It’s been aces. Not sad one bit.”
Edwin stiffened at the mention, then all but froze when her eyes turned to him. He knew he looked night and day from Charles, and if he started talking she was bound to find him as abrasive as everyone always did, so why had Charles pointed him out!? If ghosts could sweat, Edwin would be drowning in his nerves.
Her gaze stayed on him for a long moment before she broke the silence, “He’s been good to you? Not like those other boys.”
Edwin wasn’t sure what to do with that, but thankfully Charles was quick on the uptake, “Not like them at all. He’s— he’s the best, mum. None of those tossers could even compare.”
“Because the boys— the ones who—“
Charles gripped her hand, “I know, I know. He’s a genuinely good person, Edwin. I was bad at picking friends in life, but thankfully I chose well with this one.”
His attempt at joking was overlooked completely by her, “Those boys, how could they do that? I knew their families, John Parish’s mother went to your funeral… Such cruel boys…”
“I’m alright, mum, I’m okay.” Charles kept going, smiling even as the tears continued, “It’s all in the past.”
“I should’ve fought harder for you… kept you close… mere laal, taken from me…” She was sobbing, her whole frame shaking with hiccoughs.
“It’s okay, it’s okay,” Charles took a steadying breath, “You know I couldn’t have stayed in that house, mum. And no one could’ve known those lads would go that far…”
Her sobs were worse for a moment, then stilled suddenly as she fought for oxygen. She coughed weakly.
At that, Charles’s crying intensified, despite all he did to keep himself together. He could tell. He knew what was coming. It was still devastating to see. Edwin pulled him in for a proper side hug, taking care not to jostle his grip on his mum.
This did not go unnoticed, and the dying woman suddenly smiled, as if the devastation was forgotten with the oxygen. She looked back to her son, “I am glad you have been happy, beta. You deserved happiness.”
“I’m happy, I’ve been so happy mum, I promise,” Charles tried to calm himself down, stuck in his reassuring her.
“Mere laal, light of my life, darling boy,” She breathed with difficulty, smile dropping, “Can you forgive me? I failed you…”
Charles’s frame shook with his vigorous nodding, “I forgive you, mum, you did the best you could, I love you so much—“
Her weak smile returned, glinting in the lamplight of the evening room, “Thank you, beta. You were too good for me, for this world…”
“All because of you, I swear it, all thanks to you—“
“Charles.”
“I love you, I’m sorry I wasn’t a better son, I’m could’ve been better, gotten you out of that house—“
“Charles, darling.”
“You deserved better, I love you, I forgive you—“
“My love, the light—“
Edwin was right, a deep blue light had filled the space, illuminating the still body of his mother. Her face was pulled into a slight smile, eyes closed, as if she was having a pleasant dream, even as the tear tracks dried on her cheeks.
“No, no I’m not ready—“ Charles immediately started to protest, gripping onto her hand like a lifeline.
“Charles—“
“I only just got to see her! She only just got free of him! No, no, I won’t—“
Edwin gently but solidly grabbed under Charles’s arms, “I’m sorry my love but we should go—“
Charles was nothing but hysterics by this point, head thudding onto the sheets for a moment before Edwin fully pulled him away. He said more, but Charles was too overwhelmed to process it properly, buzzing in his ears and headache behind his eyes making him feel alive in all the worst ways. Maybe it was just the first time he had cried this hard in his afterlife, or maybe being this close to an active death did something to their physiology—
Everything was a blur as they returned to the flat, Edwin all but carrying him through the mirror so that he wouldn’t get lost on the way. They collapsed onto the sofa, extra large cushions taken up by their ghostly presences. The girls were already there, and joined into the cuddle pile without another word (or perhaps with a few, Charles still wasn’t all there yet). Edwin jostled them all slightly to better position everyone before settling in again, making sure Charles was properly surrounded.
Charles sobbed for a while longer. He wasn’t quite sure for how long, or what day it was, or if he was bothering his friends by taking up their time and space like this. His devastation had seemed to take over his entire being. But, when he did breathe a little easier, when he was finally able to sit up, he couldn’t help but feel a sense of relief. His mom was dead, yes, but so was he, and dying had granted them both freedom from that man, from that house, from the cruelties of the world. And in his death he was surrounded by people who loved him, people who were there for him when he needed them and would still be there for him tomorrow, and the next, and the next. The other shoe had dropped, and it certainly hurt, but thankfully he had people around him to help him through it. He was truly lucky to have them.
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hope you enjoyed this impromptu series exploring Charles and his parents and grief and loss and all those lovely things. this was inspired by the complicated emotions I have / had after my grandparents passing, and I heavily encourage you to do something similar if you’re ever struggling with these big emotions—therapists and such will say that journaling is where it’s at, but sometimes it’s easier to project onto fictional characters and that’s ok !!! and, just to drive the point home, I want to reiterate that you are loved, and there are people around you who are there to support you, I promise ❤️
also, just to make it abundantly clear, I’m a v white midwestern american and as such have vvv limited knowledge of cultural aspects of Charles’s mom—I did research and tried my best, but if I screwed anything up PLEASE let me know so I can fix it!!!!! same goes for Britishisms ig but mostly looking for feedback on her Punjabi and her various cultural elements :)
#dead boy detectives#dbda#dbda fanfic#dbda fic#dbda netflix#edwin paine#edwin payne#edwin x charles#edwin dead boy detectives#charles rowland#charles dead boy detectives#payneland#chadwin#the girls aren’t even named in this part so I won’t tag them but let it be know that they are there and in love#charles rowland’s parents#charles rowland’s mother#cw grief#cw grieving#cw death#there are a few people I wanted to tag but I’ll have to do it in a comment since tumblr is being weird#my writing#might post on ao3 at some point idk yet#angst#but in a cathartic way#desi characters#punjabi#indian characters
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Only Trope of dbd is : when someone thing they are hard to love and than someone love them like it's breathing
#and it's not just about Edwin and Charles but it is also about crystal and niko#Crystal is not much seem loved by her parents but after she meet them they all love and care about each other and same goes for niko too#edwin paine#edwin payne#charles rowland#dead boy detectives#chedwin#painland#paynland#crystal palace#niko sasaki#george rexstrew#jayden revri#yuyu kitamura#kasane teto#monty#monty the crow#deadboydetectivesedit
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monty 'do you have a phone number' and edwins 'i dont carry one' and montys 'i respect that' ??? bro
like okay 1 hes dead how would that even work and 2 hes from the early 1900s do u really expect him to know how to use a cell phone lmao
#'i respect that' man stfu you were a bird literally yesterday😭#yall could argue 'ohh well hes had all of cell phones existance to learn how to use one' yeah maybe#but so have our parents and maybe gparents and that doesnt seem to help their case at all so idk man#edwin payne#monty finch#dead boy detectives#monty the crow
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So like. Family photographs has been around more or less since the beginning of photography. The first camera to be readily available for the upper-middle/middle class was in 1900.
There's a lot of people in the 21st century who love to collect old photographs, even if (or especially if) they don't know who the subject is
I am suddenly having a lot of Thoughts of the agency speaking with somebody -- a client or a lead or someone -- who looks at Edwin and goes "you look familiar" before running off and returning with a family photograph of the Payne family, circ 1915. Edwin seeing his face for the first time in 108 years. Seeing his family's faces for the first time in 108 (I'm very in the camp of Edwin having forgotten much of his life before his death. Hell takes a toll). Lots there for Edwin angst, imo
#just bc the paynes arent alive doesnt mean edwin cant angst over them#theres a lot of angst around charles' parents#let edwin hurt too!#dead boy detectives#edwin payne#edwin paine#dbda
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“The puppy is new.”
Ink lineart of a third illustration for my Payneland fic Eight Seconds. In this scene, Charles for the first time invites Edwin to watch his parents together through a mirror.
#dead boy detectives#save dead boy detectives#payneland#edwin payne#charles rowland#charles rowlands parents#fanfic#eight seconds#drawing#ink
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you ever think about how edwin got like. no warning, no time time to process, nothing, when he reappeared on earth faced with the fact that virtually everyone he knew in life is dead. his parents? probably died in the 1950s or so (at best) almost forty years prior to edwin’s return. if any of his classmates were still around, they’d have been elderly, possibly senile, and in a few years they’d all be gone– except, of course, edwin. nothing looks the same, cars look like spaceships, there actually are spaceships, he can no longer see the stars, and everyone he knew is dead.
#he may be dead too but he’s certainly not gone. he’s a lingering relic. something lost to time#that’s some existential dread on an incomprehensible level#like. he meets charles quite soon after returning from hell and it’s implied he’s pretty much just been haunting that schoolhouse in that#time right. so I seriously doubt he’d have visited– let alone even Found– his parents’ graves. I wonder if he ever did that with charles.#maybe charles providing him enough emotional support to feel like he could handle it.#I know that he wasn’t close to his parents in life– nor was he close with anyone that we know of– and yeah I think that’d definitely make#things a bit easier in certain ways; he never felt like he belonged in his time/place in life or amongst his family or peers#so being displaced from all that wouldn’t feel like losing very much#in a way#but… I mean still#and he inevitably would have those lingering thoughts of what could’ve been–#yes he could’ve died in the war and his life likely wouldn’t be very fulfilling considering he’d probably be forced into a marriage he#wouldn’t want or if he was found out he could’ve been imprisoned and ostracized and disowned. plenty of ways his life could’ve been awful if#but also what if his parents loosened up a little as the times did? as in- what if he actually got to know them? what if they tried to#have a relationship with him of some sort eventually? it’s not impossible#it’d have to eat at him. that and wondering if either of them felt guilty#or felt a loss. or anything#hoo boy. fun stuff#edwin#edwin payne#rambling#dead boy detectives
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