#edwin and crystal i love you
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#yes you. youre so babygirl#(i love that charles checks him out lmao i know what you are)#dead boy detectives#dead boy detectives spoilers#niko sasaki#edwin payne#crystal palace#charles rowland#mine#gifs
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maybe crystal keeps her promise after niko dies. she texts niko everyday, updates about her life, that time that charles somehow managed to trip and absolutely eat it despite the fact that he can phase through walls, the fact that edwin watches scooby doo when they're not working on a case, and that she's trying to right every wrong she made in the past and she knows that niko would be proud of her.
niko can see all of the messages, but the shitty reception in her igloo won't let her send any hearts back, and it makes her so mad.
#niko my baby i love you so much#dead boy detectives#niko sasaki#crystal palace#edwin payne#charles rowland
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i love gay marriage
#married fuckers#palasaki#payneland#more parallels#i love themmmmm#grumpy x sunshine#charles rowland#edwin payne#crystal palace surname von hoverkraft#niko sasaki#crystiko#chedwin#paynland#cryko#isn’t that one of the ship names people proposed for them#dead boy detectives#dbdshow#dead boy detective agency#dbda#yeet my deet#yeet my deebd#dbd4ratch#save dead boy detectives#renew dead boy detectives#revive dead boy detectives#pp42??#emmy if you see this i’m in so much trouble#described
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Guess who's been playing Don't Starve while watching Dead Boy Detectives 💕
#ask me about their character specialties guys#open in new link for the Big Version#dead boy detectives#edwin paine#edwin payne#charles rowland#niko sasaki#crystal palace#jenny the butcher#jenny green#esther finch#monty the crow#the cat king#thomas the cat king#dont starve#dbda#sorry to Mick and the Night Nurse and the Sprites#I love you guys but there just wasnt enough room#my art#all the music from the game fits so well i love it#artists on tumblr
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#I love the way Charles was like I'm going to be with you and it's not going to be changed!!#♥️♥️♥️♥️#dead boy detectives#deadboydetectivesedit#edwin paine#crystal palace#charles rowland#edwin payne#george rexstrew#jayden revri#painland#paynland#chedwin
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AU where Edwin knows he's gay from the start would be fire me thinks.
Imagine if he thinks he deserved Hell but still wants to escape and feel so wrong and selfish for it. So he never tells Charles what actually happened between 1916-1989, Charles only knows whatever happened was very bad no good. Edwin would be horribly, painfully aware that he was falling for Charles. But that's wrong, isn't it? Boys can't like boys.
So he tries so hard to ignore it, tamp it down. He can't let Charles know. If he knows then he'll know why he's avoiding the afterlife, that he deserves to go to Hell.
Charles knows Edwin is scared of Death and the afterlife, he assumes that something happened from 1916-1989 that convinced Edwin he was damned but there's just no damn way someone as good as Edwin deserves Hell. But, selfishly, he never tries to convince Edwin to go. To leave for his beautiful afterlife.
Then Port Townsend happens.
Crystal is no idiot, she can tell Edwin's jealous from the start. She can tell Charles thinks it's because they're best friends, she can tell it's because Edwin's in love. That doesn't stop her though, she deserves one good thing after everything, doesn't she?
(I think Cat King would go very similar to canon, but it's less of "I'm not gay" and more of "I know what I am but these urges aren't okay".)
Niko loves love, she can tell Edwin loves Charles. She can tell Edwin doesn't know it's okay. Niko helps him through it, becomes his confidant, the first person he confesses everything to. I think they would have a huge conversation that ends in them both crying -- Edwin bemoaning his unrequited love, Niko mourning for him -- and cuddled up watching Scooby-Doo. (The sprites get teary eyed too but still mock them, Niko calls them out and they deny it. "It's dusty as shit in this old ass glass!" "Yeah, we're getting fucking pick eye in here!" "When's the last time you even washed this shit-ass jar?")
It all comes to a head with the Night Nurse. We all know her spiel, "I'm taking Edwin back to Hell and Charles to get processed." But Charles doesn't know Edwin's been processed. Charles doesn't know Edwin's assigned to Hell.
Niko is empathetic, not forcing Edwin to explain but not once thinking he did anything to deserve it. Crystal is up in arms, demanding to know what he did to deserve Hell, demanding to know why he hid it from Charles. Charles is confused, conflicted. Edwin's his best mate! There's no way he deserves Hell! But... but why didn't he tell Charles? Edwin is overwhelmed and panicked and no, no, no! Charles was never supposed to know!
Now, listen. Niko isn't one for confrontation, she doesn't like to fight. But hearing Crystal rip into an unresponsive Edwin while Charles lingers unsure on the back has her heart breaking, has her head hurting. So she steps in, shouts at them to stop, that they'll talk tomorrow when they've cooled off. And drags Edwin off to her room for the night. She doesn't demand answers and he doesn't give them.
The next day, everyone's off. The tension is high and only building. Crystal keeps sending Edwin pointed comments and Edwin is actively ignoring her existence. Charles is conflicted, caught between Crystal and Edwin; taking both their sides without taking either. And Niko doesn't know how to soothe any of it, so she sticks close to Edwin.
Eventually the four are leaving the graveyard, Crystal and Charles arguing when she rounds on Edwin. "And you! Don't think I forgot about you!" Niko tries to step in and stop it like she did last time but Edwin's tired, he's had enough, he breaks. "I was sacrificed! I was sacrificed and spent seventy-three gruelling years fighting to escape! There, happy? Might we please move on now?"
He storms past them all and for the first time since this dispute started, Niko is angry. She tells Crystal that wasn't okay, that it was cruel. And takes off after Edwin, leaving Charles and Crystal standing uselessly.
"I didn't know..." Neither remember who said that.
#tetris belies it’s wisdom upon thee#dbda#dead boy detectives#edwin payne#charles rowland#crystal palace surname von hoverkraft#niko sasaki#night nurse#cat king#no resolution for you😌😌#btw i love Crystal#but part of her character arc was her selfishness#she also pushes way too hard sometimes#this is not a safe space for Crystal haters and this is not Craytal bashing
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i do genuinely think that "maybe that's why I like her so much" is one of THE most insane lines in the show.
like- Charles, honey, I hate to be rude, but what the FUCK did you mean by this? you're talking about a girl, who you obviously are at least a little romantically interested in, your friend makes a snide comment about her, and YOU SAY, 'hmm, kinda like you, yeah? see, that's why I like her.' I just. WHAT?
seriously every time I hear this line I start cackling because there is literally no normal explanation behind telling you're best MALE friend (who believes you to be straight) that the reason you have a crush on this girl is because she is like him. what the fuck, Charles. what. the fuck.
#I love it so much he's so oblivious I cant#charles rowland the bisexual disaster you are#I honestly don't like the way I put this but. but!#the. the general idea is there#hm. hmmm.#whatever#dead boy detectives#dbda#charles rowland#edwin payne#payneland#crystal palace
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I really do think a lot on Edwin’s very serious declaration of never letting the two of them get separated after Charles shows concern about it in episode 1, and it’s abundantly clear that he’s just as protective of Charles as Charles is of him. However, due to the kinds of situations they ended up in during season 1, Edwin fell a lot more into the role of the one who needed protecting, which is why I really badly want to see Edwin have a moment in season 2 where he protects Charles or saves them from being separated again, through clever words maybe, or his spell books.
I just desperately want some kind of follow through on the ferventness of his “I will never let that happen” because with the conviction of that line, god I believe it, but do I ever really want to see it too
#Charles looks a little vulnerable in that scene too. younger than usual even.#I think he’d be so touched if Edwin went full protective over him#like he knows Edwin loves him. but I think it’d impact him a lot to see that expressed through his own means of showing love#Charles still has such a hard time believing he’s good and I basically just hope that s2 throws all the love at him#charles: ‘I’m still worried about my anger and whether I’m a good person sometimes. aren’t you?’#edwin and crystal: ‘nope bc we already know you’re a good person. get loved idiot’#charles: ‘oh ok :’) ‘#storyrambles#dead boy detectives#edwin payne#charles rowland#random thoughts
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"I'll jot that down in my journal of opinions I DON'T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT!" is one of the lines that go the hardest in the show
#dead boy detectives#edwin payne#an icon#i love that guy dearly#his beef with Crystal was so funny like why are you THIS jealous she just breathed 😭😭
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Charles is moaning to Crystal because “Why me? He could have anyone, why would he want me?” and Crystal fails badly at muffling a snort. “He could have - ? Charles, you are deeply delusional. Sweet, but delusional.”
#Charles is like ‘no no I’ve seen this. Monty. Cat King. Simon. everyone he meets is irresistibly attracted to his autistic rizz’#and Crystal is like honey I assure you for the vast majority of the population Edwin is an acquired taste at best#Charles is just like no that doesn’t sound right#everyone loves Edwin at first sight. I would know#dead boy detectives#payneland#mine
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I was commissioned by @i-am-as-normal-as-you-are to draw this DBD Wizard of Oz AU!! The more I think about it, the more sense it makes to me, plus, I had a lot of freedom with the desings and it was super fun!
#dead boy detectives#dbda#edwin payne#charles rowland#niko sasaki#crystal palace surname von hoverkraft#everyone gets a bow#why? because bows are cute#i love this idea so much#and i loved drawing charles' sparkly shoes lol#you can tell i had a lot of fun with his clothes specifically
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#this guy is soooo normal about a cute boy talking to his platonic best bro#THE WAY HE JUST SULKS WHENEVER MONTY SHOWS UP#FROM THE MOMENT NIKO SAYS ‘oh he can definitely see edwin ;)’ CHARLES IS LIKE I FUCKING HATE THIS KID#AND HE JUST STEPS IN FRONT OF EDWIN TO INTRODUCE HIMSELF AND THEN JUST SPENDS THE REST OF THE SCENE SO PISSY#HES SO MAAAAAAAAD#JUST FUCKING POUTING AND GIVING A STINK FACE#he is never ever pissy towards someone who isn’t posing imminent risk to ppl he loves like esther cat king david night nurse etc#but the immediate rage towards monty just UGH#jealous charles means so much to me bc it’s openly stated how jealous edwin is but like edwin gets to make charles jealous back it’s so goo#and no it’s not the same with the cat king ok the cat king is a fucking predator#that’s not jealously that’s protectiveness#and i’m sure some jealously bc someone flirting with edwin but it’s not the same it’s a grown ass man being a fucking creep to his person#i desperately want crystal to take charles aside & go#‘you know that behaviour when someone is flirting with your best friend isn’t normal platonic behaviour right’#i need season 2 and i will not give up on her#charles rowland#edwin payne#monty the crow#yeet my deet#dead boy detectives#dbda#dbdshow#save dead boy detectives#renew dead boy detectives#revive dead boy detectives#dbd4ratch#yeet my deebd#payneland#described
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Edwin rarely initiates touch. He touches people when that are in danger or in response to the other person touching him first, but barely never does he initiate touch out of care for someone. That's what makes this scenes so important to me:
(First and only time he is touching them)
And then there's Charles, who always initiates that constant casual and cozy contact they have. So the few times Edwin is the one starting it seem so much more powerful to me now...
And for those of you wondering about Crystal, he does touch her a few times (he touches her the most out of the others, apart from Charles), but just mainly because they are on a case and she has a life to lose or she is the one touching him, so... I didn't add her... I'm sorry Crystal, Edwin just needs a bit more time to show he cares about you in that way.
#i'm sorry crystal#i love you#yes. i did rewatch all dbda just for this post#yes. it was only an excuse.#touch#edwin paine#edwin payne#tck#the cat king#niko sasaki#simon dbda#crystal palace#charles rowland#dead boy detectives#dbda#save dead boy detectives#dbda meta#dbda analysis
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i get such a sense of primal envy when looking at edwin’s clothes up close because god you can just tell his coat is real wool and made to last and not cheap flimsy mass produced garbage and auggagghhhh that was just STANDARD in his time. by no means am i saying i was #borninthewronggeneration because i like having vaccines and household appliances but. man. to have a personally-tailored coat like that that’d last for years and years……. and fabrics of fine thread-dense quality………. if only
#edwin would be so disgusted by shein products can you fucking imagine#i mean he’d be disgusted by most mass produced brand/off-brand clothing but fast fashion shit like that would be the Worst#thank god for the fact that I don’t think anyone in the group would wear that kinda shit. for wildly different reasons#crystal wouldn’t because why the fuck would she. she can afford the most expensive high quality shit on the market. and even if she goes#thrifting you can just tell if something looks/feels like cheap garbage she’d not even touch it#niko’s a fashion icon and constantly changing her outfits BUT she seems like the type who loves repurposing old clothing/re-arranging things#in her wardrobe and making different combinations rather than buying new clothes all the time and wasting perfectly good clothing#plus she wasn’t raised in America and likely did not get normalized to fast fashion#charles doesn’t because. well#you know.#ghost. and whatnot#even so I doubt his parents bought him clothes that often so he’d have to either save up the money to buy stuff he wants (probably thrifted)#or repurpose old clothes in various ways. his coat absolutely looks high quality and I bet he saved up like crazy for it#rambling#edwin#dead boy detectives#edwin payne
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If you haven’t already heard the news, Dead Boy Detectives was recently canceled.
I’m absolutely gutted at the fact that Netflix cut this show short, but as hurt and angry as I am, I hold just as much gratitude in my heart. I realize now, just how lucky I am to have had a show like this
This show has helped me in more ways than I can count, and I am truly unable to express how grateful I am to have something like this. I am grateful to have been in — and continue to be in because trust me, I’m not going anywhere — such a vibrant, welcoming, ridiculously talented fandom. I am grateful for each and every one of the actors and show writers who helped make this happen; grateful for Steve Yockey and Beth Schwartz and Jayden Revri and George Rexstrew and Kassius Nelson and Yuyu Kitamura and all the wonderful cast and crew of Dead Boy Detectives. I’m grateful for all of the dedicated fans for making things like Payneland Week happen. And I am grateful for all of amazing gay people behind my screen who’ve allowed me to scream with them from the rooftops about how great this show is.
Edwin and Charles will still live in our hearts forever. As long as the red earth rolls... ❤️💙
#thank you so much dbda fandom i love you all more than you'll ever know <333#dead boy detectives#edwin payne#charles rowland#dbda#payneland#dead boy detective agency#dead boy detective netflix#monty the crow#monty finch#niko sasaki#palasaki#crystal palace#not-the-living-ghost
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So are we gonna talk about how it has been established that a combination of remorse and forgiveness can save someone from hell?
And, banking off of that, if Charles' dad passes away he could potentially have the power to decide wether he gets sent to hell or not.
Prior to being there himself I think he would never have forgiven him. However, after going through hell and seeing what it does to people I'd imagine someone as empathetic as him would feel like nobody deserves an eternity of that. It would be a very interesting idea to explore, the state of his trauma after 30+ years with the guilt he might feel (entirely unjustified as it may be) over having the option to save anyone from Hell and choosing not to. Especially if in this scenario his father is incredibly remorseful and begs for forgiveness.
It would be really interesting to get a parallel to the scene with Edwin and Simon, however it may play out.
#idk man i just love putting my favorite characters in tough situations#of course crystal and edwin would be like 'it's not really your choice you don't need to feel bad becauae he deserves it'#but knowing charles he would find away to beat himself up about the whole situation anyway#dead boy detectives#charles rowland#edwin payne#payneland#dbda
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