#dumbledore haters

[batransacon]

The dumbledore defenders on tiktok are crazy cus wym dumbledore didn’t use harry?? Like in no way am I saying he was terrible but he definitely did use harry even if he loved him (or whatever you see it as)

[logolepsy-babble]

I started reading Harry Potter per my friend’s request and I have a lot of thoughts. I annotate my books based on “who gives a shit” and my own pleasure.

As a gigantic Marauder’s fan, my emotions were ten fold.

Here are my Chapter 1 anotes.

Chapter One The Boy Who Lived

Crying over the Marauders

“Grunnings” (Rowling 1).

That’s German for green??

“The Dursleys had a small son called Dudley” (Rowling 1).

What an odd thing to call a child that’s 11. ofc he’s small. (He was 1, my bad)

“The Dursleys knew that the Potters had a small son, too” (Rowling 2).

Joanne, stop w/ the “small son”

“This man’s name was Albus Dumbledore” (Rowling 8).

Bitch.

“He went to find the Potters. The rumor is that Lily and James Potter are — are — that they’re — dead” (Rowling 12).

My Gryffindors ☹️💔

“He couldn’t kill that little boy. No one knows why, or how” (Rowling 12).

Blood magic by Lily Evans is my fav. HC

“Young Sirius Black lent it to me” (Rowling 14).

THEY SHOULD HAVE GIVEN HARRY TO SIRIUS, ALBUS YOU CUNT—SIRIUS WAS THE GODFATHER. COULD HAVE GOTTEN HIM OUT OF PRISON

Chapter Summary:

I hate Albus Dumbledore.

[aeligsido]

Aberforth, at some point: I hated Grindelwald before it was mainstream.

[fanfictionroxs]

These Cornelius Fudge wannabes need to keep their Dumbledore bashing out of the main tags of my babygirl. Fucking take your stupid takes on Albus being "morally grey" and the epitome of evil blah blah blah and go somewhere else. Most of your favs wouldn't have lived if Dumbledore wasn't the fucking backbone dealing with everything. Dude has been traumatised since he was 17, still he doesnt stop helping others, stands against discrimination, leads a war against 2 dark lords one of whom was the love of his life.. brother gave his everything and y'all want to behave like that stupid politician in a bowler hat saying shit like dUmbLeDoRe iS pOwEr HuNgRy aNd mAniPuLaTiVe waahhh

[stargazingtranquility]

Dumbledore got to the after life and immediately got jumped send tweet

[sparklingwatermelo]

Cut out from ‘Harry potter the boy who survives’!

“Harry…my dear boy, I left you with them because it was the safest option. I love you and i wanted to put you in the safest place possible.” Dumbledore says in a level tone, blue eyes twinkling in the candle light, hands clasped together loosely in front of him.

Love. What a funny thing, Harry thinks to himself. Love is what made his mum and papa sacrifice themselves to save him. They died because they loved him. Dumbledore says he loves him, that he left Harry to the Dursleys, because of love.

Harry is struggling to understand it, how can he possibly even try? Lack of Love can break a person to much of it can kill? Why do people seek Love? Why does it seem to be the sole cause of his problems?

Love. He wonders if he’s capable of it, is it possible for someone like him? Harry doesn’t think so.

Love. Maybe it means different things to different people? For Dumbledore Loving Harry meant breaking him. For his parents it meant giving him the chance to keep living even though they would be dead.

Love… Harry doesn’t like it very much.

[commander--wake]

don't snitch tag or harass anyone on this post or ill kick your ass

hunting down the source of the drama from this post (it's this post btw) in the #emperor john gaius tag and. WHY ARE THERE SO MANY JOHN APOLOGISTS WTF

"Everyone makes a very big deal out of Jod having a crown of baby finger bones, and as an aesthetic choice it certainly says… something. But there’s no reason to assume the bones came from actual babies." and everyone in the tags like "he might intellectually understand that baby bone crown is weird" "yeah he killed a lot of babies but I don't think any of their bones are in his crown"

WHY DO YOU THINK THE AUTHOR MADE THE CHOICE TO HAVE HER NECROMANTIC GOD-EMPEROR WEAR A CROWN OF BABY FINGER BONES. IT'S NOT TO SHOW THAT HE'S A GUY WITH A SPOOKY AESTHETIC.

more commentary from someone actually sensible, plus some good tags under the cut:

#tamsyn really gave us everything didn't she#no yeah i think it is CRUCIAL that there is a world in which you can send your stillborn baby necromancer's skeleton#to be honoured by god#to be cared for by god and to care for god with the lingering flickers of their thanergy#and that god - whose power of resurrection is a kind of reproductive power and whose kids 'on ice' are...uh...#potentially needed to deal with the diminishing gene pool problem that seems to have beset everyone?#THAT god crowns himself with the symbolic reminder that necromancy matters and necromancers matter#primarily as canon fodder in his endless war#that the struggle to produce baby necromancers - the struggle to keep them alive! - is a struggle to produce future soldiers and colonists#god crowns himself with the symbolic reminder that barely viable pregnancies are worth it if they produce kids who live long enough#to use the thanergy and thalergy around them against god's enemies#that crown is not just a symbol of god's power in general. it's a symbol of john's power over his resurrected people#whose very futurity is nothing in comparison to his goals - his ends#i don't want to say that reproductive futurity is my main interpretive lens in this fandom but like. it's not NOT

[moderndayamymarch]

pop culture things going on during the harry potter books:

the Soviet Union officially dissolves (1991)

Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me (1992)

Bill Clinton plays the saxophone on Arsenio Hall (1992)

Nancy Kerrigan is hit with a baton outside practice by Tonya Harding’s ex’s friend (1994)

Nelson Mandela becomes president of South Africa (1994)

O.J Simpson drives a white Ford Bronco 30 mph down an LA highway while being chased by police (1994)

“if the glove doesn’t fit, you must acquit” (1995)

Oasis releases “Wonderwall” (1995)

Tupac is shot (1996)

Dolly the sheep is cloned (1996)

David and Victoria Beckham start dating (1997)

Tony Blair becomes Prime Minister (1997)

Princess Di dies in a car crash (1997)

Elton John sings “Candle in the Wind” in honor of Lady Di (1997)

the Spice Girl’s Spice World comes out (1997)

Seinfeld introduces the holiday of Festivus (1997)

the Good Friday Agreement goes into effect, (kinda)ending the Troubles (1998)

[hundredacreletters]

im a dumbledore hater and I always will be

i can put it aside for an order, but this is what is in my heart

actually most people that want dumbledork mentioned want it bashing him and I adore that

[fallingstarsburn]

no cause i will never forgive dumbledore for letting children get involved in a war. training them up and manipulating them. when you think about it, it wasn’t even that hard for him. james with his strong sense of morality and determination to fight for those who couldn’t, of course he would sign up for the order as soon as it was presented to him. sirius, who came from a family so bad and so hurtful in the things they did he would take any offer at ‘redemption’, to be on the good side of the war to try and get away from the surname that haunts him. and moony, oh my god moony. the boy who knew that because of his condition he’d be excluded, looked down upon, denied work, rights, existence even!! that as soon as he was invited to an organisation, asked to be apart of something, of course he wanted in. because they were taking him? even though he was a werewolf? i will never forgive dumbledore. never.

[batransacon]

It’s so hard to fully hate or fully like morally grey characters, like dumbledore for example. (Also he’s the only canon gay so I gotta have some kinda loyalty to my people ✊)

[ilovebarty]

About me

1)I am a swiftie for life

2) I ship Jegulus, wolfstar, rosekiller, pandalily, jegulily,Bartylus,blairon,drarry,ronmoine,hedric,perciver,linny,marylily,scorbus,moonwater,rosestarkillerchaser

3)I HATE Snape

4)I am the most bisexual person you will ever meet:)

5) I am a Sirius Kin

6)i am in love with Barty Crouch Jr

7)I love to read

8)I want to become a writer or singer

9) I hate homophobes,transphobes,snapelovers,racists,bigots,prejudice and if you are part of that group kindly fuck of

10) I don't like Jily not because I like Jegulus but because I think that lily would not be the kind of person to settledown i think she would travel the world

11) I hate Jk Rowling and I say fuck everything she made up

12)Marauders fan

13)I am a hopeless romantic :(

14)I live in the Uk

15) and to all the Americans no I will not say 'a bottle of water' because we don't talk like that

16)Jegulus is my OTP

17) Heartstopper season 2 made me cry

18) I hate folklore James and I think that Augustine and Betty should just forget James and date each other

19) My favourite foods are curry and pizza

20)Thats all really

[astral-scout]

goodbye mr a is so dumbledore core. you promised you would love us but you knew too much,, you had all the answers but no human touch,,,, the world was full of wonder till you opened my eyes,,,,,,

[forestdeath1]

by @dufferpuffer

Dumbledore was clever, cunning, and magically powerful. If he wanted real power, he could have quite quickly brought the wizarding world to its knees. Actually, he feared power and deliberately limited himself from it and tried not to get involved in the most political decisions because he knew he had a visionary side that could make him start deciding people's fates "for the greater good." He knew he could make mistakes. That's why all his positions were not really about power but were more like representative and guarantor roles, where there were many other decision-makers, and his power could be limited by others — from headmaster (from which he was disgracefully kicked out) to the position in the useless magical version of the UN.

Dumbledore didn't seek power, he feared it. That's why he avoided making some decisions and increasing his power even when he could and should have done so (like taking the post of Minister).

At first Harry thinks Dumbledore is almost like a god, but then he realizes that Dumbledore actually has no real power, makes mistakes, and is just an ordinary person with his own flaws, who has been fighting his inner demons all his life and can't forgive himself for a mistake he made in his youth.

Dumbledore is actually a deeply traumatised character who is often afraid to make decisions and avoids doing things because he believes his actions sometimes don't lead to good outcomes. He avoids action even when it's really needed, doing the bare minimum.

He is very distant, closed off, and I think quite an unhappy person. I can almost see the pain Dumbledore went through with the whole Harry situation, but it was a difficult decision that only he could make, and he actually hates himself for it, which is why he distances himself from Harry as much as possible (I don't think it's the right decision. I see it as Dumbledore's weakness.) Dumbledore's death isn't a sad event for him, it's the release he had been waiting for a long time.

This is such a simple idea that I really don't understand how people see him as a character who fought Voldemort just to keep his kinda pathetic power.

[improper-victorian-relationships]

I hope we meet dumbledore in hogwarts legacy 3 so i can finally fulfill my dreams of punching him in the face. hopefully in crossed wands.

[maxdibert]

Pretty messed up how some people are fans of a creepy and obsessive guy who didn’t care if a man and a child died just so he could get the girl.

Alright, let's break this down, anon, because there's a lot to unpack here.

I think I've mentioned this in several posts already, but I'll repeat it: Severus owed James Potter NOTHING—no compassion, no empathy, no mercy. Nothing. Absolutely nothing. James Potter was a rich, popular brat who abused his social and economic capital to torment a poor, unsupported boy for seven years just because he didn't like him from the moment they met on the train to Hogwarts, and from that moment on, he had it in for him. He was a terrible bully who used his friends to join in on that nasty bullying. So if Snape didn’t care that he died, well, Snape had every right to feel that way. Do you go to victims of domestic violence and tell them they should feel sorry for their abusers? No, right? Well, this is the same thing. James was an abuser, Severus was his victim. Severus did more than enough by not telling Voldemort to torture him to death with Cruciatus, because I would have. Honestly, I don't understand why Snaters always bring up the whole "James was dead and Snape walked over his body" as if it were some horrible thing when, hello! You're talking about an ABUSER being dead, mate. Of course, he walked right over his body—what surprises me is that he didn’t throw a party.

Harry had to die. I know this sounds terrible, but it’s basically what the prophecy indicated. He was a target that Voldemort wasn’t going to let slip away, his fate was sealed. And yes, it’s unethical. And yes, it’s immoral. But the truth is that wars are unethical and highly immoral, and horrible, monstrous decisions are often made. Harry was not an option—asking for mercy for him was pointless because there wasn’t going to be any.

I don’t think Severus ever believed that if James was out of the picture, Lily would go to him or anything like that. I mean, they hadn’t spoken for five years—about six by that time. Severus NEVER harassed or stalked Lily. The only time he went after her was when the whole SWM incident happened, and he tried to apologise. Once she made it clear she didn’t want anything to do with him anymore, Severus respected her decision, and as far as we know from canon, they never interacted again. So, I don’t think, after six years of not talking, with his supposed former best friend having married and had a child with his personal bully, Severus had many expectations of them ending up in any sort of romantic relationship. I think, quite simply, that Lily always represented the only good part of his childhood—the only happy memories, the only moments of peace amidst the hellish violence he endured at home. I believe this was crucial for someone like him, whose childhood and teenage years were marked by violence, and he wasn’t willing to let the one good thing in his life end up murdered.

I agree that Severus is highly obsessive, but haters tend to frame this in a derogatory way, referring to his "obsession" with Lily, and I think it needs some clarification. Yes, Severus is obsessive, and he’s terribly immature at times, and he overreacts enormously when confronted with something that really triggers him (just look at how quickly he loses his temper with Sirius, for instance). This is obviously because he’s someone who never had the opportunity to grow up normally or develop cognitively as he should have, because his whole life was marked by violence. His home life was violent, and at school, he endured violence, and then at 20 years old, he handed his soul over to Dumbledore’s cause and had to work for nearly two decades at a school that was the epicentre of many of his traumas. He literally had neither the spaces nor the environments needed to heal and grow into a functional adult, and you can clearly see this in his behaviour. I’ve always said Severus is more of a diva than the cold, mysterious character people often make him out to be in fanon. To me, he’s someone who, on a personal level, hasn’t been able to grow emotionally in a healthy way and doesn’t know how to manage certain situations, especially those tied to his emotional issues. That said, I also don’t think he was romantically and/or sexually obsessed with Lily. I do think he loved her or was infatuated with her in his youth—first love, crush, whatever. But I don’t believe his need to avenge her death was due to romantic or obsessive love. I think it’s more about his obsession with repaying his debt to her. Severus always felt partially responsible for Lily’s death, and that’s where his obsession lies: it’s not that he’s obsessed with her, per se, but with the fact that he feels guilty for what happened. He feels, in some way, responsible for the death of the one person who showed him kindness, affection, and care during his childhood, which made her the most important person in his life at one point. And guilt often leads to obsession, much like grief that is not properly processed, and I don’t think that kind of obsession is creepy. I think it’s a very human kind of obsession.

Lastly, I don’t find Severus creepy at all. Why is he creepy? I mean, Harry was running around with his invisibility cloak, spying on everyone. The Marauders had A BLOODY MAP that allowed them to track everyone at Hogwarts 24/7 like some kind of magical GPS. Is Severus really the creepy one here? There are literally Animagi who turn into animals to spy on people��I have to laugh at the whole creepy argument.

That being said, if you’re going to come into my DMs to complain about Severus, at least bring some convincing arguments because it’s a bit tiresome hearing the same nonsense over and over again.