#digimon tamers liveblog
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she loves renamon so much she just can’t say it!!!!!
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This episode does some cool things:
We get our first Deva Digimon, and if I remember correctly, they're considered the main threat from this point until the D-Reaper twist.
Growlmon, the last to digivolve, gets the first Matrix Digivolution into Wargrowlmon.
Takato feeling every hit that Growlmon (and then Wargrowlmon) takes is a cool bit of foreshadowing on what their final digivolutions will be.
#musings#bandit liveblogs#bandit liveblogs tamers#oh also renamon has digivolved the most even if growlmon got the first matrix digivolution#renamon also gets some good screentime and arc from the devas prior to the digiworld arc#i don't remember as much from the digiworld arc because i don't think i saw it live#but i remember the stuff before and the d-reaper arc#oh also we've gotten more info on henry's dad being one of the people who created digimon#so that's fun
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My review of Digimon Frontiers is that it’s bad and I don’t like it.
#dinu yells into the void#dinu yells in the void#dinu watches digimon#for the love of god somebody help me.#i really wanted to like frontiers. i really did.#i wanted to liveblog it like tamers and then do a proper review at the end.#but i genuinely cannot stand watching this show#this isnt a digimon anime. this is bootleg power rangers that hates digimon.#im not even finished it but i dont even care. this is the last post im making about it because i want to skip through the rest of the#episodes and then Move On Already. im so done with this.#i want to start adventure. at least that might be actual fun.
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As someone who is also going through a digimon watch through and just finished the next anime on their list they were watching (tamers) very cool to see another digi blog liveblogging their thoughts ^_^ ive been going through your lbs and I hope to one day join you in watching adventure etc
hell yeah!! i partially made this blog just so i could liveblog my thoughts lol!!
adventure subbed was a really fun experience and i hope once you get to it you enjoy it!!
i'll be doing a tamers rewatch subbed after 02 so eventually i'll also be rambling about that lol
#sky talks#sky answers#i say eventually as if i don't intend to fully fan the flames of my current hyperfixation by watching more subbed digimon lol#i know i watched the d-reaper arc subbed when i was a kid meanwhile#but i don't remember the differences between the dub and sub so i'm eager to investigate#technically speaking i am still splitting my time between the rest of the series rewatch and savers tho#literally just got to the first episode where kurata talks on screen#i have like 3 pages of bulleted notes on that though#and tbh i kind of also want to write a little bit about the whiplash between that series and playing dmo#tl;dr i have too many thoughts about digimon so i NEEDED a place to put them lmaoooo
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I missed this weeks ghost game episode because my mind was preocupied with a lot of other stuff (and the digimon media that was on my mind was survive)
But since its a halloween episode and we’ve had one in the past, thats means they’ve had their digimon for over a year. Which man feels crazy.
#Its also been a year since i encountered my first piece of digimon media (tamers)#i didnt start watching ghost game until december though#i really love how ghost game actually changes the seasons and it matches the time episodes air#even if its sutble like them mentioning its back to school wearing winter clothes the cherry blossoms being in bloom mentioning summer class#i love it#soaps adventures#ghost game liveblog
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BIG AND BIGGER, BIGGEST DREAMER
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Question. What's more poignant, Ruki in a loveless marriage (to a guy) or Ruki being alone because the trauma of what happened in Tamer's? Cause I feel that if I just went, nope, to her character growth shown in the series it misses the point a bit.
Okay
So
I don’t think you follow my main so you may not have known this
But the topic of obviously gay women entering loveless marriages with men happens to be HUGELY relevant to the present goings-on in one of my other current obsessions (it has a zestful flavor), so this question is tugging at my heartstrings in JUST the right way
So if that was by accident, or even if it was on purpose, kudos
Anyway, to answer your question, I definitely think Ruki being in a loveless marriage to a guy is by far the most poignant scenario. Perhaps made even moreso by the likelihood of the scenario. The Hata family (Ruki’s mother’s maiden name) is clearly a wealthy one, and likely has been for generations (I’m basing this assumption on the size and style of their home), and it’s not uncommon for wealthy families to have arranged marriages in order to keep the family fortune among the already-established. Now, there are clues that Rumiko went against her family’s (or perhaps just her father’s) wishes for her, and that Seiko chose to support her in this. Thus, the scenario I’m imagining is that another wealthy family is looking to marry their son into wealth and turn to the Makino family. Neither Rumiko nor Seiko are interested, but Ruki, despondent and directionless, agrees to it, simply because no other path has yet presented itself.
And then I cry myself to sleep thinking about the long-term implications of this situation and rewatch Episode 39 for the billionth time.
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Why don’t you have a partner?
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Patty: “ ‘Your stomach ache tells you eating that much ice cream was a mistake’? No, it’s my stomach that needs to be improved! Stein, build me a mechanical stomach--”
Liz: “Patty, no.”
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So, scythe arms, then sacrifices herself with arms stretched out in front of her partner.
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Soul Eater-Mon?
#Digimon Tamers E6 #DwellsLiveblogs
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Honestly the Frontier stage drama is anything BUT “disposable material that shouldn’t be considered canon.” Given the character arcs from the main series, the drama script itself, and the tones and voices the VAs used on stage (Tomoki’s deadpan tones rank #1 on that list, and it was a joy to hear), it’s very much something that could fit into the canon perceptions we have about each character. After all, this takes place just two years after the story, while the drama CD takes place (as you or someone else mentioned) several years later when everyone’s much busier and gotten used to being close with each other for some time.
Also, that fanart from Twitter was so delightful and perfect, and never have I seen something that so aptly conveyed exactly what would have happened had this script been animated (still holding out for more Frontier official art)
Trust me, when I was lazily scrolling through Twitter reading liveblog reactions from people attending the event, the entire timeline was just full of people going "how dare you put this kind of quality content in a vanishable stage reading?!" To give a frame of reference about what kind of content you'd normally expect from stage readings:
A silly crossover skit from 2003 with Adventure through Frontier characters discussing what constitutes a Digimon protagonist (cute, but basically just for fun as a crossover special)
The one tri. one from 2016 where the boys talk about how to hit on girls (this one actually did get on Blu-ray, but 2016 was a bit of a special case)
The Kizuna one from 2019 where the Digimon debate on what to give their partners for August 1 (cute but also canonically inconsequential compared to the official media from the movie)
The Tamers one from last year (which...I think most of us would like to forget if possible anyway)
...and, well, Frontier material is so scarce that anything is valuable, but at the same time they really just barraged us with a whole wave of extremely important material all of us were dying to know. In a vanishiable stage reading. That really is offensive. Thankfully, even questionably legal stuff aside, we had multiple people like the above-mentioned fanartist liveblogging and keeping records and summaries of what happened, but...!
(Actually, the thing that revealed these apparently aren't supposed to be canon is from a certain writer from last year being extremely salty about the fact he couldn't make any long-lasting additions to the Tamers timeline, due to the fact the official stance was that anything that goes into a stage reading is to have all records wiped. The reason is that these events tend to be rights nightmares, so other than 2016 being a special case they usually can't clear the rights to have these on preservable media and therefore don't want to have future canon depend on temporary things like this. But it's not like Frontier is all that likely to have media that contradicts any of this in the future, let alone much canonical media at all, so as long as we all agree that we have enough records of this story to acknowledge it for the time being...)
Given the way they've been handling anniversaries and based on the dates the Tamers one spanned and the Frontier one started, it seems like the air date in April is actually being used as the start and end date instead of having it be January to January, so we actually have more than six months left in the Frontier anniversary. I wouldn't rule out more new art or merch!
And that artist's work (referring to this) is super lovely, isn't it? I really appreciate attempts to preserve and visualize the contents of it, and that artist's passion for Frontier is super clear and passionate. They've been liveblogging their rewatch with fanart, and I definitely recommend checking going to their profile and checking it out.
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guilmon is in heaven
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Ah, see, I remembered incorrectly.
Henry's not just anti-digivolution because Terriermon almost died but because when Terriermon digivolved the first time he became just as merciless and power-hungry and bloodthirsty as any other digimon.
Also Henry getting emotionally attached to what is supposed to be a fictional video game character just like all of us here on ye olde tumblr.com.
#musings#bandit liveblogs#bandit liveblogs tamers#henry out here suffering ptsd because he realized digimon were real and he was actually hurting them#and terriermon was actually getting hurt in all of those fights#and he can't suffer the guilt of being the reason anyone else suffers#the exact opposite of rika#who is all about being the most powerful and has no empathy whatsoever#(this is an exaggeration#rika has empathy#but it takes a bit for her to acknowledge digimon as more than fighting machines#just like it takes henry a bit to be okay with needing to fight even though people are gonna get hurt)#((and then takato monokuma over here just wants to play pretend with his made-up digimon pet))
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FINISHED DIGIMON TAMERS. I liked it! I don’t think it’s perfect / without flaws though. Nothing is. But I enjoyed it. I'm glad I finally decided to watch it. It was fun!
Under the cut will be I suppose my more full length review
Things I really liked about tamers:
- Really cool digimon. Ive very much come around to the designs and lore etc of the digimon in tamers, they’re really nicely designed and have really interesting personalities or lore behind them
- I liked how it tackled family and family dynamics better than savers did. Savers had a very strange like, “biological blood relations are The Most Important Thing Above All” attitude about it which I hated, but Tamers was much more nuanced about the family relationships and I liked seeing the more unconventional family structures, like Ruki's mom being divorced
- Generally I love how global it felt. I loved how there was so many different characters from all over the world, and how the existence of people and countries outside of Japan genuinely mattered and influenced the plot
- The world-building for the digimon is REALLY really cool especially the lore about how digimon and the digital world was created. I love seeing it actually get discussed and explored how things work, whats the correlation between humans and the digital world, etc. like how the devas and holy beasts were inspired by irl folklore and mythology and cultural beliefs
Things I didn’t like about tamers or had gripes with-
- To me, the biggest flaw of tamers was whatever the hell sort of theme or messaging it had going on. I know it’s supposed to be trying to say something about morality and power and violence, but all of that comes across extremely muddled or aimless- do you want to leave it open to interpretation, or do you have a specific stance you want me to take? It just felt like saying words for the sake of saying words. And along the way, I felt like the series just dropped all of it anyways to follow other themes commonly found in digimon media, like the power of friendship between digimon and humans or humans coming to respect digimon as real beings with autonomy. They have this whole scene about how depending on perspective, the deva are good or evil, but then the show literally pegs the majority of them as inherently evil anyways and kills them???? It’s frustrating. Only really Beelzemon sort of lives up to the idea of moral ambiguity / is given any sort of character arc regarding morality and power, but one well written character can’t save all of it.
-Connected to the above, generally, I didn’t like the villains of Tamers nearly as much as I did the villains in Savers. I just made a post about this so TDLR: The D-Reaper is a terrifying eldritch abomination, sure, but they’re an extremely one note and uninteresting villain who again, is portrayed as objectively evil and must be eradicated / destroyed. They’re not very compelling and they mostly really get any sort of narrative weight due to their connection with Juri, and how they connect to their character and her trauma, and thus, how it affects everyone else and their attempts to save her. Idk. Idk.
- I didn’t like how Tamers was generally more about romance or hornier than Savers was. It was really weird to me. I understand that kids think about love and stuff too, obviously, but most of its inclusion was just weird to me and made me uncomfortable in certain episodes. I Don’t Want To Think About The Love Lives Of 10 Year Olds. I Am Twenty One Years Old.
General other comments-
- Plot and main + side Characters were generally pretty good! I liked all of the characters in Tamers generally, though I will say that I don’t feel as though you get to connect with the characters in tamers as much as say Savers. It might be due to the much larger cast, or the fact I'm not like, you know 10, but I didn’t really get to know the characters I feel as well as I got to know the savers characters. And generally, I felt some of the character writing was very weak- Ryo and Cyberdramon were the only characters I genuinely didn’t like, because they felt overall useless and meaningless to the narrative as a whole- they don’t really add anything outside of deus ex machina style Actions That Progress The Plot. #Justice For Hirokazu for fucking real. I liked Leomon, but he also very much felt like a filler character designed just to die. Sorry.
- The tonal dissonance, especially when it would play the songs, was a mixed bag. Sometimes it was very funny and endearing and cute to watch the characters go from a harrowing scene to a much more lighthearted setting, and other times, particularly near the end of the series, it just drove me absolutely insane how it felt as though Nobody Was Acting Like A Real Person and taking this Seriously Enough. The music was good, but most of the times whenever it would start playing it would just completely take me out of the scene, especially the more serious ones.
I'm sure I'm forgetting other stuff I've wanted to say 😭 this isn’t really meant to be a serious review or anything. Again at the end of the day I don’t regret watching tamers, i'm really happy I did. But I think even for kids shows, it’s important to keep a critical eye, you know? To not be blinded by nostalgia. Idk. Idk.
#dinu yells into the void#dinu yells in the void#digimon#dinu watches digimon#SORRY i didnt do a full review for savers#maybe on a rewatch ill do a proper liveblog and like review#also please dont see anything i say about tamers if it’s negative as like#me hating the show bc i rly didnt 😭 i like it i do#im just a media analyser…. i like analysing media good and bad bits#ill be taking a break i think after this#im gonna see about watching the two like movies they made for tamers tomorrow or next week#and then ill move onto frontiers#i gotta let myself recharge after watching like 100 episodes of tv. my body cant handle much more#im also going to comic con so i need to give myself time to work on my hopeful beelzemon cosplay#annddd thats all from me right now folks bye ye
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Yeah so anyways Appmon is now my 2nd favorite Digimon series after Tamers
Please watch Appmon
#rachel liveblogs digimon#tamers is my all time favorite and appmon really has that modern day tamers vibe#personal
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GHOST GAME EP 13 LIVEBLOG (spoilers!)
WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT
"digimon can die?" WE'RE ASKING THE TOUGH QUESTIONS AREN'T WE
Holy shit
I think jellymon is getting targeted
Bokomon is gonna get knifed
Is this our first arc????
NO NOT MONODRAMON AAAAAA
JELLYMON NO
I know you're a girlboss but GET BACK TO SAFETY
NO NO NO NO
Ok that was smart
Fuckign shaking rn
Oh it was sealsdramon the subreddit peeps are smarter than me
Holy FUCK NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
Ok EP break: this was the first episode to put the fear of god in me
But like
WHAT HOW ARE THEY GONNA RESOLVE THIS YOU CAN'T TALK YOUR WAY OUT OF AN ASSASSIN
I'm actually scared rn
Continuing the episode:
I KNEW GHOST GAME WAS GONNA RIP MY HEART INTO PIECES
BUT NOT LIKE THIS
NOT LIKE THIS
This is actually heartbreaking to watch
WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT
GULUSGAMMAMON TIME
Let's see what happens
WHAT WHAT WHAT
I think he's gonna get but like
WHAT
It's Actually Terrifying
We're getting drama DRAMA DRAMA DRAMA D
HE'S BREAKING OUT OF THE THING
This is why they didn't spoil anything on the TV guides!
I'll need to lie down
This isn't gonna work
SHE GOT DECKED
I think this is the best dark Evo we've seen since megidramon
"eat or be eaten" IT'S TAMERS ALL THE WAY DOWN STRAP IN
I'm shaking so much rn
I'm taking a break
Holy FUCK
This feels like some EP 37 mid-season stuff though
But like WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT
I'm recommending ghost game to all my relatives brb
"just because we knew each other a little doesn't mean we're friends" aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
@the people who said there was no plot: WHAT ARE YOU SAYING NOW HUH???
I was rewatching madoka magica and this really gives Mami EP 3 vibes
Wow ghost game will pull no punches
Ok continuing the ep
WHAT WHAT WHAT
What just happened to them
Oh wow doing the digitama
Actually freaking with grief huh
HUH?! AGUMON?!
So they don't remember anything
Interesting... A bridge
NEW ED!!!!!
Wow this series is so fuckign good
Symbare!!!!
Dude...
Ok we're getting another mystery eee
Final thoughts:
HOLY. SHIT.
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