#differentiating platonic and romantic feelings
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realizing that i’m aroace is actually kind of heartbreaking for me. but it makes things make so much sense
(actual things i’ve said and thought)
me: “i just wanna make out, like in a friend way, you know? like, for fun? no feelings attached?”
me: “i like you but sometimes i just wanna act like best friends and not hold hands and play video games or something”
me: “i wanna cuddle you and hold your hand because i desire romance and i think it should be you but i get a gross yucky feeling when i do it”
me: *really liking someone platonically and trouble differentiating between romantic and platonic feelings*
me: *gets over relationships quickly when they end*
me: *could get into a relationship with any of my friends and be okay in it*
me: *experiences alterous attraction and extreme platonic love*
and i could go on and on
#acespec#arospec#aromantic#asexual#aroace#aromantism#lgbtqia#lgbtq#lgbtq community#autism#actually autistic
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this is not a polished essay it is a giant yap session u have been warned
gotta be at least in the top 3 posts most likely to get me blown up by a missile but why is every depiction of bill & ford’s relationship either “hehe cute/sexy romance >:3c” or platonic psychological horror. why can’t we have both (not the cute/sexy thing, just the romance) like. u guys are aware that Really Really Horrible non-platonic relationships are a thing right. like u guys do know that right
idk i don’t really have words to express this eloquently but this fandom’s fixation on the idea of Romance = Good feels really weird to me. i really really love exploring complicated fucked up characters & their dynamics with each other and it’s just exhausting to not be able to do that without 14 pages of clarification. i know every fandom is like this to some extent i wasn’t born yesterday but it seems ESPECIALLY bad here. and yes imo it IS important to differentiate between a platonic & romantic relationship in this context bc that DOES make the way it reads a little different and that can be an interesting thing to discuss
also while i’m yapping abt things that would get me beat over the head with a shovel, y’all gotta learn that different interpretations doesn’t mean bad interpretations. like using bill & ford as an example:
“this is a good healthy relationship” bad interpretation. do you know how to read
“this is a really fucked up abusive platonic relationship” valid interpretation
“this is a really fucked up abusive romantic relationship” also a valid interpretation
(^does not apply to aus just the Actual Canon Written Text, aus are obv a case-by-case thing)
someone having the second interpretation does not make them homophobic i cannot believe i have to say this. someone having the third interpretation does not mean they support abuse (i actually can believe that i have to say that one at this point)
personally i actually don’t really care either way between the second and third i just wish we as a collective could have one (1) interesting and nuanced conversation about their dynamic & what led to it & all that stuff without spending 75% of the time just clarifying the opinion of “abuse is bad” it is so fucking tiring
anyways. fiddauthor truthers rise let’s all beat bill cipher to death with hammers
#yet again i have another thing that i think this ties into but whatever. this post is a disaster i dont need to make it worse LMAO#i am so fucking scared please do not get rabid in my notes i am just a little guy#idk if it comes through in the tone here but i’m not angry or anything jsut like. Tired#i do not have the energy to handle full on anger rn i will not hesitate to spray u guys with water like cats#gravity falls#bill cipher#stanford pines#tw abuse#cw abuse#i think those are the only cw/tw tags i need here?? if there’s any more lmk !!#and for the sake of those who have it filtered:#billford#twoa.txt
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i don't have twitter anymore so you guys get all my late night nonsense posts.
#ooc.#anyway i'm very#.....enamored?#by people very easily#i fall in and out of crushes at the drop of a hat#you give me a MOTE of attention and i'm 😍😍😍 over you for like months#that happened with elliot and now we're married sooooooo#ANYWAY i also like#super struggle with#differentiating platonic and romantic feelings#and the two blend together for me#so if i ever flirt too much and overstep just tell me#because man do i struggle with social shit like this#i'm just being cute 🥰 and funny 🤪#what if we made out platonically#god it's four am#i should get twitter back smh
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There are two wolves inside of me. One headcanons Marcy as a lesbian because of her obsessive, possessive and codependent tendencies with her friends. The other headcanons her as aroace. Because of her obsessive, possessive and codependent tendencies with her friends
#and i dont mean like arospec/acespec lesbian (could work too but i dont know enough about those identities to say anything coherent abt it)#i mean like. completely parallel universes. incompatible realities#my ''official headcanon'' is just that she struggles to differentiate between platonic and romantic feelings sometimes#and her relationship with anne and sasha are the strongest manifestations of that#this is my explanation for the prom poster. crossing the boundary y'know?#my posts#amphibia#marcy wu
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the fact that people still use the "no one would talk to a friend that way" "no one would grieve for someone like that if it was just platonic" etc arguments to prove a ship is canon is so annoying to me. yes i get it, we got queerbaited hard but where does it say that romance has to be higher than a friendship or no one said friends couldn't also be lovers or vice versa....? i normally say "popular media tropes that usually are for romance" when i talk about fiction but pulling a blanket statement like "NO ONE talks to a friend that way" is so invalidating to so much of our queer experiences. the beauty of queer friendship literally lies in the emotional fulfilment we get from our friends in a way that i don't normally see in cishet friendships for whatever reasons. so idk it's just been bothering me to see these kinds of posts every now and then. "you wouldn't do [x] for your friends" i would actually. i would sell my soul for them. i would kill for them and kill myself for them. i would do anything for my friends that i would do for a partner. the "proof" for a ship doesn't have to be by invalidating their friendship. also like aren't most of the ships so powerful when they're also each other's closest friends? do y'all not think of your partners as your best friends?
#sorry for the rant#i know that popular media tropes have changed our mindset on romqnce#it wasn't a thing in my country but now the dating scene is so westernised that it's the same here#im not saying people can't experience romance or friendship differently#in the context of queer people specifically i've noticed that most people struggle to differentiate between platonic and romantic feelings#and often feel a mixture of both or somewhere outside both#it's intense! Regardless#I'm also trying not to invalidate romance or people that experience it totally separately from friendships#but i genuinely wonder#do you stop being friends with the person you're dating#how does thay make sense#them not being your bestest friend?#anyways I'm aroace and in a qpr#maybe i'm just a little sensitive#but queer people also talking in a very heteronormative of looking at romance also confuses me#are we really putting a tag on how much someone grieves???#first of all human relationships dont work that way!!#there's no need to place them in different positions#it's not a competition#every relationship is unique to the two people involved in it#only they can categorize their relationship not outsiders
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People far more eloquent than I am will be able to explain this better than I can, but I know I'm not the only one who head cannons Blitz as demiromantic and theorizes that this is the first time since Fizz that he's felt this way.
There was something so... Idk. The way he said "I guess" in answer to Millie's question. Could be just him being reluctant to admit it, but it hit me like... Like this feeling is so unfamiliar to him that it's like "I guess these feelings I am having are that? This feeling is so foreign to me that I'm inexperienced at naming it."
I am probably explaining this terribly but that answer was so demiromantic to me and I felt it in my soul.
#helluva boss spoilers#idk i am possibly projecting!#as someone who has trouble differentiating between 'this feeling is platonic. that one is romantic. this other one is a secret third thing.'#that is what it felt like to me. like 'yeah I'm pretty sure this feeling is a romantic heartbreak and that is so unfamiliar to me??'#blitz#I'm yapping. soz.
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Hmmm introspecting after reading a post lmao but I've come to the realisation that like I don't particularly care to differentiate between platonic and romantic relationships? Like i love my friends and I guess that's it? I am also having the realisation that i probably have not had an actual crush in almost like,,,, over a decade at this point and the last 'crush' i remember having g was one of those made up ones that you make you to be able to talk to and relate to your friends with yknow. I almost wanna say I think i might just be aro? But also at the same time I absolutely do get flustered when someone I find cool or pretty talks to me so like idk? I don't care about getting into a romantic relationship with them so like eh??
And other than that when I think of getting into a romantic relationship with any specific person it just doesn't feel appealing to me but then I yearn for the vague concept of it all if that makes sense???
And then there's also the thing about intimacy? Like i feel like hm how do I explain it. Like if a friend wanted to hold hands or cuddle or kiss or sth I wouldn't have a problem going along with it without it having to be explicitly romantic? And if a romantic partner didn't want to have any of the intimate stuff I'd be okay with it? Which brings me to like,, how do people even differentiate between platonic and romantic relationships?? Because to me they're pretty much the same. Unless ofc I'm straight up missing something
#feel free to reply to this btw would love to hear more thoughts#especially on how people differentiate between platonic and romantic
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Was Jimmy ever truly in love with Scott any smp yes or no
depends on how you want to define it. Jimmy has a tendency to hype up the people he’s teamed with, and that + the way he very openly admires Scott / puts him on a pedestal in Third Life* can be easily read as “falling in love” with him. I personally believe this is the case, considering the way this dulled out in subsequent life seasons, but honestly it’s all up to interpretation? You could make a good argument for this being a platonic crush of sorts, but I think 3l!fh is more compelling if read romantically on Jimmy’s side, especially with how fh fucks with the expectations of what romance is (see: scott’s oddly traditional idea of romance, while Jimmy just seems happy to exist around him). For esmp1!fh though i think jimmy was just happy to be given attention LMAO he alliance-zoned that guy
*im referring specifically to how jimmy complimented scott’s building abilities on at least three different (but probably more) occasions, even when scott specified that he took his house’s design off google
It is very interesting to compare how Jimmy is w/ Scott VS his recent(ish) interactions with Joel, though. bc despite both relationships being often read as romantic, Jimmy expresses that very differently with each of them. I’m inclined to think that this is bc there is an air of un-seriousness with Joel, where it could just be brushed off as “bros being bros” instead of a serious romance, bc serious romance comes with standards attached that jimmy likely doesnt give much thought to or even care for. Like. Smallidarity to me isnt even dating I do just think they’re like that
#asks#Im not putting this in a discussion tag its very brain dump-y and unorganized#tbh i think drawing lines at what counts as “truly in love” is hard to define… luckily it is also unnecessary#What matters is the characters’ perspectives on those feelings ig. how they personally define and think abt romantic love#(guy who recently stopped trying to differentiate between romantic and platonic feelings voice) how am i gonna answer this one pals#i dont think jimmy had a crush on scott in any other smp ive watched though. but i actually havent watched that many lmao
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Are you
A homosexual?
I'm not exactly sure where I stand. I think it's termed as being in questioning...?
#It is difficult for me to comprehend how exactly to differentiate between platonic and romantic feelings.#And I haven't given the concept of a full-blown romantic relationship a lot of thought either.#I personally don't believe I'd be opposed to it?#asks#pjsk rp#project sekai rp#project sekai roleplay#toya aoyagi#aoyagi toya
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( what if i just made kagura gay, huh??? how about that? WHAT IF MY PORTRAYAL OF HER WAS GAY???? )
#ooc.#( i can't really imagine her with a man anyway it feels weird )#( idk sometimes i look at a character and my brain assigns an identity to them )#( i don't think she's ever shown interest in guys anyway )#( like there was an episode where she had a 'boyfriend' but )#( she was confused over the whole concept )#( and didn't actually like him )#( i think she's not able to differentiate platonic and romantic love )#( well she's related to kamui.................. )
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look i love sibling coded madwheeler more than anything but also also
queerplatonic madwheeler?
queerplatonic madwheeler.
the way stobin are (in my mind they are just at least a tiny bit queerplatonic i don't take criticism)
like are we friends? are we like siblings? are we just two souls who somehow merged together and we understand each other in this special way and we're so close and have this weird special bond and people are often confused whether we're friends or siblings or dating and the truth is that it's just us
yeah i like that with madwheeler very much
#look#just hear me out#yeah? just hear me out!!!#i'm onto something i know it!#i just love thinking about madwheeler and the different ways their friendship could be and all that#and also i hc mike as arospec and as having hard time differentiating between platonic and romantic feelings etc#and that he just feels love in his own special way and so sometimes for very close people it's just more in the queerplatonic way#you know?#(i'm projecting)#anyways yeah i just love the thought of madwheeler being queerplatonic that's all bye <3#mike wheeler#max mayfield#madwheeler#queerplatonic madwheeler
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btw i tried whole milk for the first time recently and it wasnt very good i dont like plain milk
#unrelated but every time someone mentions their struggle with differentiating platonic and romantic attraction#or when someone expresses their complete lack of understanding romantic attraction itself#i‚ as someone who is very romantic and likes to think he has a firm grasp on the subject‚ feel deeply compelled to describe and explain it#like how one might describe their perception of the color red to someone else who cant see it#and in the same vein i would be extremely open to hearing a monosexuals explanation of their experience with monosexuality#as someone who struggles to comprehend that conceptually#anyways i cant remember whether ive actually done it or if ive only ever thought about it extensively#see‚ there is something wrong with my brain im not sure if anyones picked up on it yet
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i’ve said it before but in my experience being gay or bi can lead to a bit of a blurring of the lines when it comes to platonic and romantic feelings. which i think makes sense given the vast majority of us have grown up in a cisheteronormative society where we’re attracted to the same gender we’re expected to predominantly be friends with
#but also i think the differentiation between romantic and platonic feelings is kind of bs anyways#like. everyone experiences those things differently you know#which isn’t to say labels can’t be useful or meaningful to people#but they’re descriptive not prescriptive ya know
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Kinda related to that last post but again I don't wanna derail-- y'all have got to stop diagnosing shitty cishet men as aro as an excuse for them being unable to commit and treat their girlfriends/wives w/ respect. Aromantic people are capable of being in loving relationships and committing to people. That fuckboy who won't commit isn't aro, he just wants to use people and I guarantee you he'd lose his shit if one of the many women he's two timing went after someone else.
#emil chatter#aro also doesnt mean not wanting a relationship it just means not feeling romantic attraction#or differentiating it from platonic feelings#its just tiring for people to diagnose misogynistic men with these different identities like#why would you want a misogynist in your community#also theyre not polyamorous either LOL#i personally think we should ban cishet men from poly relationships until further notice but im not like#the CEO of polyamory
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the writing fanfic to "huh? this doesn't seem like how romance is normally written" to "am i somewhere on the aro spectrum" to "oh god the reason i dont identify w the generic aro label is bc i need a microlabel" to "fuck i need to rewrite this whole fic" pipeline
#mimin trying to write#anyway i discovered the microlabel platoniromantic#which means you cant tell the difference between romantic and platonic love#genuinely never understood why and how people differentiated between romance and strong platonic love#wym you dont want to marry your close friends and kiss them and cuddle them and give them everything you have#no its not romance in the normal sense bc i feel the same way for multiple of my friends at once and if they hv other ppl im not jealous#unless it means they have less time for me#like??? marriage is still necessary bc you do not do this with normal friends. but its not romance?????????#anw tbh ive always headcanoned hestio as being on the aroace spectrum but wtv it is its not platoniromaticism#gg to throw that on him anw tho bc i want romance in this story somehow for The Themes#and its not like i know how to write romance any other way. or i wouldnt have gone down this rabbit hole to begin with#sorry bud!#anyway i guess ill be thinking about how to bring ephael into this#me writing tes/hes the whole time and being like scratches head where is ephael#does not seem right to write so much about hestio loving tesilid and vice versa but not exploring their bond w ephael at all#bc what is the difference...........#but ephael is so hard to write...... idk what goes on in his head...........#hestio is more straightforward his brain is not as twisty#sorry for the sudden personal crisis on my fandom blog#hestio's now a vehicle for me to explore myself i guess. sends him flying kisses youre my OC now#the good thing about small fandoms is that you dont have to care about mischaracterisation as much ig#also the bad thing abt small fandoms is that if you mischaracterise a char you actually will never find out. cries
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being bullied by girls your entire life to then finding out youre a lesbian later on is such a wild ride because on one hand girls tormented you for being autistic and you didnt have the space or time to figure out you were gay because of that but on the other hand now youre in love with any girl thats marginally nice to you
#bonus if you have a hard time differentiating between platonic and romantic feelings#double bonus if youve had a crush on all your friends for any duration of time. im talking 5 seconds to 5 years#i think im calling out other people with this bc i cant be the only gay idiot#queer#lesbian
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