#dgm 253 spoilers

[hiddenremnant]

(lukas) no context

[funkyboxofinterests]

reading dgm truly is An Experience (tm)

[outofcontextdgm]

Pondering the Orb

[halcyonfiction]

WHEN I CATCH YOU HOSHINOOOOOOO

Stop LOOKING at him like that jfc!!!! Allen you idiot turn around that man isn’t just making heart eyes he is laser beaming at you with love

[amipenthe]

SPOILERS!!!!!! FOR CHAPTER 253!!!!!!

After google translating the house and reading a summary of the events from someone who knows Japanese, we finally have confirmation: lavi is not cross and lavi is a part of Allen’s soul.

If I were Neah d Campbell I’d seek legal action. What the hell do you MEAN the man in love with me fell in love with my host and they combined into one person????

That panel when Neah sees our Allen’s face for the first time makes so much sense now. Could you imagine waking up to see the body you are in is a combo of the host you picked and the friend you asked to protect said host????? Neah’s face said I left you two alone for two goddamn minutes 😭

But good news! That means our Allen is his own person. He is the combo of two people, a creation of two people, making, him, in fact, something different than either of them. Making him his own unique being. Good for our baby!!! Hopefully he’ll be able to be like sorry Neah no I’m a different person than the one who made that deal with you: kisses.

I’m actually just as curious to see Neah’s reaction to this news as I am to see Allen’s. Like the fact Allen is his own unique being different than the one he made a promise with is trouble for him. Also, the fact he explicitly didn’t want lavi to become his host…wanted to spare him from such a fate but then lavi ended up becoming his host anyway has got to freaking sting

Ps ps….I wonder if Neah and our Allen will collaborate more together or come to some kind of agreement after this revelation it’s obvious now that Neah didn’t body snatch Allen, but at the same time, their old deal can’t and doesn’t stand…..

[dearloonies]

Dgm Spoilers!!

So, Lavi is Crown Clown*, technically. And he is part of Allen's soul, which essentially is what made our current Allen. A good thing actually, since he is his own person but then there's so many questions like

How does one determine a bookman heir?!

And also Nea. Mf is so clueless rn, he looked in the mirror and saw what looked like a Past!Laven lovechild like- I can't even

[allenwalkerbitch]

God it's so funny that we spent all this time and energy after 252 theorizing about how to make the (present) Allen vs (present) Lavi age timeline work, and Hoshino's answer for us was just Several Years Of Orb

[vitamiiiiins]

NEW LAVI CONTENT LET'S GOOOOOO

[lovelypup25]

So I guess Allen has 4 Dads now lmao

[ennael-rambling]

Well well well, look who is here after all these years ? "see them but not in the form you think" once again, well played Hoshino-sensei!

[cinammonelles]

Should I really be surprised dgm has children of misfortune too

[poupeesdecirque]

"I'll protect you with my life".

Literally.

I have a lot of thoughts regarding the chapter, I want to update some of the theory posts I made back this year but real life eats me. So have this little art until I am able to go deeper again.

[salvadoerena]

we're really in it now boys

[gaiamossiah]

kinda SPOILER WARNING (DGM ch 253)

It seems previous Junior is not an ordinary person, not even among the bookmen...? I am very curious what this "calamity" is. Is it a long running curse or something within the clan or did he get it from his mother side..? Assuming she's from outside the clan.

Lucia said "Mr. Host and Nea took a 'beloved' family member from us" but we have some people calling prev junior as a "calamity" or a cause of it among the family. I mean, their clan spreads in all directions and locations so maybe the hate was just among where Bookman and his junior are currently staying at the time? And then Lucia's side is actually and genuinely treasures prev junior? Or was he "beloved" because he is the heir and no matter what he is, he is of importance to them. But->

...given that they are looking for Junior til now, 35 years later, we can consider that there is a genuine concern, i guess? And ngl Lucia looked really pissed when Allen said he does not remember anything. Idk if it's out of concern or if it's because their records are ruined for not knowing anything. (But I think she's really worried... given how she stared at Allen's hair when he arrived).

I wonder if prev Junior's white/gray hair is the indicator of this "child of calamity" claim, given that Bookman himself does not have gray hair from the start. His hair isn't shaded or screen toned in any way so I'm not sure if they have the same color or maybe he's blonde or has light colored hair but yeah. If the white hair is unique to Junior... then that's another mystery.

It's so painful to see them all cryinnnggggg... make it stoooppp TT^TT

Also IF ("if" because i thought before whether or not it's a flashback or not, see link below) the young Lucia scene in 222 is a flashback and it happened when former Junior 'disappeared'... then that was 35 years ago.. So how old is Lucia? She should be at least 45 because the kid in 222 looked at least 10 years old... What kind of meals does the Bookmen eat? What is their skin care routine????

[halcyonfiction]

Literally ITCHINNNGGGG for this chapter like I feel so jittery

Is this addiction?!? Should I seek help??

*Sighs*

*redownloads twitter to scrounge around for english 253 translations*

[dearloonies]

Some thoughts and theories I'd like to share about DGM (Spoilers!)

JUST A FAIR WARNING: THERE ARE TONS OF SPOILERS HERE!!

So I just got into contact with my friend who was busy and aboard and we talked about dgm, about the recent chapter (253) and a few other theories that are floating around in the fandom and, after a few exchange we both conjured up some questions, thoughts and theories:

Is Allen the Dog's name a coincidence? Was Mana even aware of Allen Sr.'s existence? What was Katerina's relationship with Adam? Was it friendship or something more? And who TF is Cyrus exactly? When exactly did Nea met Allen Sr.? Was it before or after his betrayal? How exactly did Lavi Sr. and Allen Sr. met? Were they introduced to each other by Nea?

All these questions, we tried to figure some of them out, one by one! So, let's start with Allen the Dog and the name.

So originally, some of us figured that Lavi Sr. (previously known as Past Allen... 😅) to have met and was even friends with Mana, and that in his confusion and grief, Mana named the dog (his only companion before our Allen) Allen! It made sense, but then 252 and 253 released and we had to go back to serval chapters before. My friend and I thought that, perhaps, Nea might have told Mana of his host being named Allen but then it doesn't make sense for Mana to name the dog Allen. My friend thought that with Mana's personality and deteriorating sanity, might've have been touched... in some way or another that Allen Sr. is willing to become his brother's host and disappear! So, in honor of this unknown man, Mana named the dog Allen. It made sense, but who knows?

Now, to the Campbells! We know that Katerina met Adam, and became close enough with him to mourn and cry when Adam dies/splits and even took in the twins that is essentially, his sons. Katerina is portrayed to be a very loving mother who nursed Mana back to health. Katerina's name means "purity" while her middle name Eve...is already a hint itself to her possible relationship with Adam.

Now let's go to Cyrus whose face we don't even know and is only mentioned like once. Let's first start with his name, because I found it interesting. Now Cyrus is a fairly popular given name and the name of several Persian kings, particularly Cyrus the Great (c. 600–530 BC), but also Cyrus I of Anshan (c. 650 BC), King of Persia and the grandfather of Cyrus the Great, and Cyrus the Younger (died 401 BC), brother to the Persian king Artaxerxes II of Persia. Cyrus, as a word in English, is the Latinized form of the Greek Κῦρος, Kȳros, from Old Persian 𐎤𐎢𐎽𐎢𐏁 Kūruš. Now the meaning of the name Cyrus has been and continues to be a topic of discussion amongst historians, linguists, and Iranologist. The Old Persian name "kuruš" has been interpreted in various forms such as "the Sun", "like Sun", "young", "hero," and "humiliator of the enemy in verbal contest" and the Elamite "kuraš" has been translated as one "who bestows care". Interesting right?

So, the thing is me and my friend came up with one, fairly ridiculous but likely plausible theory: Cyrus could be Cross' father. Idk why, but it's what we came up with, now, we do have the theory somewhere that Cyrus = Cross but it's rather unlikely. @allen-fanfan theorized that Cyrus may be the elderly people mentioned in ch. 137, which is, again a highly plausible theory than anything proposed (so far at least). We do know that Cyrus is apparently a very weird and eccentric individual, but I am curious about the fact that Nea mentions how Cyrus is "where the strangely colored smoke". But this is all I have sooo 🤷

Now, let's get into our next topic. Which is Nea, Allen Sr. and Lavi Sr.! Now, I'll have to say that this is somewhat connected to the Allen the Dog theory I mentioned above, but I'll first explain me and my friend's thoughts about these three central figures: Now, Nea and Allen Sr first met when Allen Sr was dying after his entire squad all died, the first question was how exactly did they die? And which military did Allen Sr came from? What war were they fighting? Timeline is important but considering how we were given no dates and only an approx. timeline, ehh... My friend very quickly abandoned the entire "what war?" question. I don't blame her tbh, since the question is somewhat unimportant since we get an indirect confirmation that Allen Sr is likely an ordinary soldier. Anyways, regarding Nea and Allen Sr's meeting, I did post a question whether Allen's wish was to die by his own terms, since, he is...a soldier and all that.

But, the most important question that I do wanna ask is when exactly did our Noah and dearest Allen met? Was it before the betrayal or after? If before, there's this possibility of Nea telling Mana of his willing host, thus the entire theory above this section. But if it's after the betrayal then, well, it would explain why Nea and Allen Sr didn't seem to know each other well despite Nea's apparent attachment but then again according to Lavi Sr, Nea is the kind of person who has trouble admitting he is friends with someone, but still cares for them deeply. So, who knows, he could've gotten attached despite their short-lived time spent together.

Here's my final question asked; when and how exactly did Lavi Sr and Allen Sr met? When is important, because timeline, again is important, timeline would help us better understand the story and it would give us some context on how long our dear characters have known/spent time together. As for the how, it could be a possibility that Nea might have introduced them to each other or Nea might have told Lavi Sr, but then again, how would Lavi Sr know where/who Allen is? If Nea and Allen Sr. ever separated that is, but it wouldn't make sense since it'd be like "hey so you'll carry my memories so that I can reincarnate and erase your existence once I wake up goodbye!" like. That would be so weird and awkward, so me and my friend went to an assumption that Nea likely spent some time with Allen Sr. although it was very brief until Lavi Sr and Allen Sr met. But who knows,idk me and my friend were just bullshitting and speculating about all these things sooo 🤷

Welp, this is all we had, so uh, comment/ask or reblog if you guys have something to add, correct or ask since me and my friend kinda of gave our all about this theories.