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God it's so funny that we spent all this time and energy after 252 theorizing about how to make the (present) Allen vs (present) Lavi age timeline work, and Hoshino's answer for us was just Several Years Of Orb
#like don't get me wrong I'm fine w this being the answer#but never in a million years would we have predicted this lmao#dgm spoilers#dgm 253#d.gray-man
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HEY WAIT, that was technically a Lavi appearance!!
#dgm spoilers#dgm 253#like it's not what we were looking for#but it WAS real actually Lavi the Lavi we know#not the prev version#are we counting this as breaking the no Lavi streak?
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The new dgm is. whoa
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Ohh and I just realized. The reveal of how Nea really implanted his memories in Past!Allen is a direct reversal of what we were previously led to believe.
Until 252, all we knew about the memory implanting was this scene, which we thought was between Nea and Pasta, not Nea and the OG Bookman Junior like we now know it is.
For like a decade, the concept of Allen having Nea's memories implanted was entirely associated with this image of "Past Allen" standing over a slumped, dying Nea. But that's not what happened! We now have a brand new single panel of flashback showing us the real memory implanting scene, and it's a very alive Nea standing over (and then kneeling in front of) a slumped, dying Allen. It's the exact same imagery in reverse.
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It's a small detail amidst the craziness that is the rest of 252, but I'm losing my absolute mind at the fact that Past Allen was apparently soldier.
We just had it confirmed that our protagonist, our child soldier protagonist, had a whole previous life that he lived and completely forgot about. He had a whole first life where, until he was at least an older teenager, he had nothing to do with the inescapable holy war that's taken over his existence the second time around. He was just some kid with no connection to the battle between the Noah and the Black Order.
But what was he instead? Was he free to actually have a childhood in this other life?
Nope! He was just a normal soldier in some non-spiritual, completely mundane war, and he would have died in battle if Nea hadn't swept in and drafted him into the holy war instead. There is no life in which the young Allen is not a soldier.
#fits well with the themes I suppose. esp the themes of the bookman and lavi stuff#history is nothing but an inescapable endless cycle of wars#me when the 'tragedy about child soldiers' manga is a tragedy about child soldiers#stick figure violence gnawing on wood dot jpeg#dgm#d.gray-man#dgm spoilers#dgm 252#allen walker
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D.Gray-man 252.
#I don't have coherent thoughts yet so this is the entire post#the whole sequence w losing his arm and apocryphos. holy shit#chef's kiss a thousand times over#the visuals. man#dgm spoilers#dgm 252
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I cannot believe I've been reading D.gray-man for all these years and it JUST now hit me that Caterina's full name—Caterina Eve Campbell—is a fucking Adam and Eve reference. The Millennium Earl's Noah name is Adam. It's right there.
And Caterina raises the two kids "Adam" becomes as her own children. Adam and Eve have two sons, and one of them kills the other one when they grow up. Mana and Nea are fucking Cain and Abel.
Local woman reads the catholicism manga, is shocked to discover it contains catholicism.
#like I'm not shocked the reference is there#but I am genuinely a bit surprised that I. known allusion/reference enjoyer. never once picked up on this before.#that was quite an 'oh my god' moment I had just now#dgm#d.gray-man#caterina eve campbell
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For a third possibility to add to your list: maybe Lavi was born a few years before Prev!Junior died and Allen was reset, and the "birth" in "birth of the new junior" is a misnomer. If "birth" here refers to another kind of awakening/choosing that took places a few years after Lavi was actually born, that could help the timeline work more smoothly?
I want to talk about this page in particular because the implications here are so riveting.
Lavi is currently 19. Allen is believed to be 16.
Which means that either
The Bookmen are lying
Bookman Jr. did die then and Allen either didn't age the first few years or his age got fucked up multiple times before he met Mana
The first seems highly improbable at this point tbh. If the Bookmen were planning to make Allen take the poison to make him remember his past then lying about when Past!Junior (presumably) died seems counterintuitive and would only make Allen mistrust them more once he was in full possession of his memories.
It doesn't seem like Allen de-aged to an infant. He says his earliest memories are from when he was in the circus. Even if he did age back to an infant, he would've needed caretakers and nothing in the story suggests he had any.
(Note how little Allen doesn't have his Innocence in the last panel. What the fuck does this mean Hoshino.)
Allen looks perhaps 4-5 in both of these panels. If Past!Junior died over 19 years ago and Allen aged linearly since then, then he would have to be 23+ by now. Even considering the possibility that he aged back to an infant, he he should be 19+ by now and he looks barely over 17.
We can assume that he must've aged in a somewhat even fashion once he joined the circus because otherwise the performers would've commented on it at some point of time.
What happened in the years between Junior dying and little Allen getting into the circus? Was he in a child's body till he acquired his Innocence? How did he even acquire his Innocence in the first place?
There's also a final possibility that came to me while I was writing this post— Lavi was born while Past!Junior was still alive. He was born with the 'mark' because Past!Junior was no longer fit to be a Junior. I genuinely have no idea how Hoshino will explain this. Will it be some sort of corruption? Memory loss? Chronic illness?
All of them seem equally unlikely options at this point. But so did the possibility of Allen and Bookman Jr. being different people before this chapter :)
Either ways, this was a very intriguing chapter and I'm looking forward to whatever Hoshino has in store for us.
#I'd have to check whether that interpretation of the word works in japanese tho#maybe?#birth as emergence/becoming rather than literal being born#anyway hi Ririn I don't know whether you follow this sideblog but it's Andie grassbreads again#rebagel#theory#dgm#dgm spoilers#dgm 251
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It's genuinely going to be so hard to get out of the habit of calling the former Bookman Junior "Pasta"
#in my mind pasta=long hair and round glasses#it's been like that for so long lmao#what do you mean past allen didn't look like that?#dgm spoilers#dgm 251
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Finished the latest dgm chapter and ohhh my god. Holy shit
#no coherent words just holy moly#gonna need some time for this one#us pasta bookman theorists were so close. and yet#about andie
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Hey good news! Turns out the lamb you were raising for the slaughter found out you raised it just to die and be consumed, and it's decided it loves you anyway 🥰.
#doing my once yearly dgm catchup and man.#oh my god#dgm spoilers#dgm 249#d.gray-man#allen walker#ID in alt text
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Froi Tiedoll, The Joy of Painting
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I went looking for D.Gray-man opening 3 on youtube earlier and couldn't find any versions that weren't covers or weird filters. I'm assuming someone got fussy about copyright and had all the good uploads taken down, so I figured I'd put this up for anyone that wants a decent copy of it on hand.
#I'm not actually uploading this to youtube because I know there used to be hd uploads of this on there#and I can only assume they got taken down for copyright#but tumblr probably cares less. so#here's a nostalgia bomb bc a post on a different sideblog got me thinking about dgm again#dgm#d.gray-man#videon
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Lmao apparently the dub was released in 2017 and I just somehow never found out about it
THEY FINISHED THE D.GRAY-MAN DUB????
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THEY FINISHED THE D.GRAY-MAN DUB????
#I knew they were talking about doing it back when hallow got dubbed and released#but I had genuinely no idea it was out there#I thought the fabled ep 60+ dub was never actually finished/released for some reason#dgm
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BEHOLD, The most mysterious character in all of D.Gray-man:
#been a while since my last good shitpost lmao#dgm#d.gray-man#past allen#past!allen#ID in alt text#jokes
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