#detco out of context

[marivanilla05]

Out of context dub scenes I found buried in my files

[littlechibs]

Telling my friend that "yes Conan has licked stuff off the floor once but it wasnt blood it was cocaine" after they send me the AINI screenshots fo Mizuki referencing DetCo feels like throwing a live grenade into a room

[yankaphobic]

Hi, it's been a while :)

I miss drawing detco so much waaah. These past few months i don't have any motivation to draw at all and it sucks. Currently in a middle of a school break and wanted to start drawing again.

I only have messy doodles for today qwq, hoping to try making a colored art piece tomorrow (these doodles are out of context lmao, I don't know what possessed me to draw the last one)

[brain-wyrm]

Cursed or out-of-context detco

Part 1

[the-sprog]

I think a Batman/DetCo crossover would be perfect especially in the context of how fucking insane Shinichi's parents are.

I was thinking and I realized they're a mix of the Drakes (neglectful in the "never being home" kinda way, rich but it doesn't seem like their child sees a lot of that money) and Bruce ("how'd you learn how to shoot a gun" "my father spent a summer with me in Hawaii to teach me" what an insane scene that was. Not to mention the "yeah. It's a good idea to traumatize our child via fake kidnapping to teach him a lesson about stranger danger :)" and "Shinichi, dear, I know you're 6yo but come investigate this suicide with me sweetie") but they're also above worse (willing to falsify police and government documents for son).

Would Bruce love the Kudos or hate them? On one hand, Yusako definitely has them figured out. He's kinda like Alfred that way.

The Kudos get invited to an event, something like an award ceremony or some kind of cinema festival. They decide to bring Conan as a decoy for Shinichi related questions (usually they'd just use school as an examination why he wasn't there but they've been saying Shinichi is traveling for a case nowadays and it wouldn't do well to contradict that).

Bruce is the one that organized whatever event this is. I wanted the Drakes alive but I also want Damien to meet Conan. So. Sorry Janet and Jack. I'm going full Batfam for this.

Clark Kent is there, though he's technically a plus one. Cat is doing a piece for the event, specifically she wants to interview the Kudos, which is a feat as of late, and needed a last minute plus one (the Kudos are volatile and no one knew if they'd actually show up. When they did, Cat had to rush to get to Gotham before they decide they got bored and fucked off).

Of course, Cat immediately latches onto Conan's existence and assumes that he is why the Kudos have been out of the public eye. But not in the actual real way. She starts by asking general questions about them, their careers, and the event they're at at the moment.

And then she hits them with: "so. I see you've expanded the family. How does Shinichi feel about having a little brother?"

Which breaks just about everyone involved in the conversation.

Immediately Yukiko goes into actress gear. "Oh no he's- this is Conan, Conan Edogawa. He's our nephew. He's been staying with a friend of ours in Japan, but we thought he'd like coming back to the States for a bit!" All while smiling. Meanwhile Conan goes through all the stages of grief and is already building up the script for when he's gonna have to kiss ass to Ai for ending up in the Daily Planet.

Yusako senses this and tries to mitigate the situation a bit. "I'd appreciate if you didn't put him in your article. He's just a kid. And the focus is supposed to be on the event and our achievements, not a gossip piece about our private life"

But then Clark speaks up. Unfortunately he's been listening to the conversation and keeping track of everyone's reactions to everything. And he has a good memory. He has also listened to enough rants from Batman about the KID Thief to know more details than the average person.

"Aren't you the KID killer?" Everyone blanches. "I mean, that child from the KID Thief heists?"

"Uhm..." Conan is stumped. He's really bad at this. Of all the things his parents did, they never left him to deal with the vultures alone. But that also means that in his entire High School Detective career he had more of a "avoid at all costs" kinda mentality when it came to talking to the press directly. Sure they've made articles about him, but he's never met anyone interview him directly.

But again, Yukiko to the rescue. "I think that's enough. I hope you can respect our wishes." She puts her hands on Conan's shoulders as she redirects him away from them.

Clark is a little worried, a little suspicious. But he stops Cat from following them by reiterating that he's a kid and the Planet is not a tabloid newspaper.

Of course pt2, things go as things go when Conan is around a respectable amount of people and someone dies. Immediately Conan is on high alert, but so is Bruce who's worried about how someone could've managed to successfully commit a murder under his nose.

So, the investigation begins. On technically 4 sides. Yusako is doing his own detective work, but he's staying on the sidelines and letting the others be at the center of it all. Conan's special interest has been activated so he's in full inspection mode and putting himself in everyone's business. Bruce immediately contacts Commissioner Gordon, and starts distracting the people at the event while sussing out anyone who might have had a motive and/or opportunity. Clark has engaged his investigative journalism side and is already gathering evidence.

Meanwhile Damien is trying to convince Bruce to let him threaten people with unimaginable violence to make them comply and confess. But then he gets distracted by Conan and starts trying to babysit him but in a "I'm better than you tsk you're so immature" kinda way. Keeping him out of the way by yelling at him and dragging him away physically. Conan is not deterred.

All in all, it's a regular day for Conan, a particularly interesting day for the Kudos, a surprisingly weird day for Bruce, and a very annoying day for Damien.

[akai-anna]

finished the movie some time ago and... the ending song is stuck in my head... and how it's so romantic sounding... the lyrics holy baby jesus and god. what is up with that? that is crazy

i'm currently watching the Conan VS KID movie while doing chores, and only got to the introduction and i'M fckin dyING, YAMAGUCHI KAPPEI-SAN IS UNREAL, HOW IS HE SO GOOD FCK

[mestos]

CoAi moments in the old DetCo Games (part 1)

idk if anyone else knows this but detco does have a bunch of games ranging from Gameboy colour all the way up to nintendo switch era. around 3~4 years ago a friend at the time and i went through and watched some playthroughs and i vividly remember thinking that the DB focused games were so CA heavy ...

The gameboy advance games were especially impressive, they had full voice acting and animations plus the cutest pixel sprites

(The Greatest Partner - The Old Magician and the Playing Cards Mystery) (GameBoy Advance)

first, context. the plot of this case is that while the DB were visiting a theme park (it's sort of a weird fusion of a zoo and an amusement park...) a magician that they went to see gets a phonecall where his grankid gets held hostage. the magician gets a heartattack from the shock and is sent to hospital, leaving the DB to figure out what it is that the kidnappers want from him.

when they're splitting up, haibara says she's going to sit this one out, but conan asks her to go with him

(conan's voice is very gentle throughout this whole game, actually. he's very sweet to the kids, which is twice as effective bc he asks her to come with him so gently.)

(and she didn't mind at all ;) )

(haibara's voice here is very gently nudging.)

(ai says this. she's very calm. the music has a romantic, relaxing vibe lowkey but i might just be delusional)

its worth noting that they spend this moment at the park going back and forth about the case.

case in point:

i already mentioned this, but depending on the director on the anime conan's aggression or snarkiness changes per episode as well as his parental instinct towards the kids. but he spends this game acting very sweet towards the detective boys and haibara.

since this is a coai moment list i wont include it, but there's a scene where he comforts ayumi while she cries and its very worth watching if u need a reminder that conan/shinichi canonically can be very kind towards the children and cares for them despite everything

anyway, next scene is SUPER CUTE, but the kids stick their nose in danger after fooling conan, leaving him to save them and they all take turns saying they believed in him—especially, because haibara told them to.

(should note—he says the first line in a soft, relieved way, and haibara has a very teasing tone while he fondly says her name. it drives me crazy.)

haibara actually leaves the group at this point in the game to go meet with agasa, so there arent any more moments for this case. the other two cases in the game are The Masked Knight Murder Case (with Conan, Ran & Sonoko) and The Greatest Partner (with Kogoro and Ran, no Conan). not really interested in those so that's all for this

the next game that has a DB focused case is in The Great Deduction of Three People—where you can play as Ai, Heiji and Conan. i'll cover that in a diff post since this is already so long

[lupizora]

So...

The DetCo Episode One OVA...

I don't know where to start from to talk about it. Honestly, I really really liked it!

Like, even though I haven't read the first manga chapter, I'm pretty sure I figured out which scenes were additional material for kicks and giggles to give context to an audience that might be seeing the series for the first time, but also a nod or even fanservise for the long-time fans. Although, some of these cameos were a bit on the nose for me since I knew who the characters were and what role they play in the overall franchise.

I admit, I kinda teared up from hearing the very first opening in the beginning (and having scenes from that same opening during the ending was such a ridiculous nostalgia trip) and I have been going through the series only for a whole year now.

I mean, it was another OVA with almost a movie budget and animation quality like The Two Worst Days in History one. Ran's karate tournament fight was seriously INTENSE! The animators had a lot of fun with it, by the looks of it lol.

But man, I didn't wanna get depressed again over Ran's and Shinichi's relationship. This OVA hammered in the definition of tragic irony, considering I, the audience, knew what was coming after this date. It hurt seeing them pining for each other and being all cute together, only for the plot to happen 😭 I have to say though, it was a bit funny how Shinichi was the one who had the delusional fantasies this time around. They are such dorks *screams into a pillow*

Another thing I found interesting was how Shinichi's voice changed into Conan's voice in his thoughts after the police had taken him to the health center but before he truly saw his reflection in the mirror. Like yeah, the actors probably had to switch anyways, and the fact the original English dub had kept Shinichi's VA narrating Conan's thoughts is the one thing I find cool about that localized dub. But it's fascinating to consider that, in-universe, Shinichi had been hearing his childlike voice as Conan for several hours at least. Maybe that made his inner voice change as he got used to the idea he had shrunk, like some sort of subconscious acceptance of the situation. (another case of me focusing on the most random things it seems) 🤔

At this point, I still don't know how to feel about the BO scenes. Like you have them being all threatening, obviously dangerous and bloodthirsty and then there is that part with Korn and Chianti about the ferry's wheel lmao. Shiho was beautiful as always though, no contest 😊

[bastionbibi]

Who’s the worst person; Manabu Sawai or Toshihiko Takasugi?

Oh Manabu for SURE.

For context, Takasugi manipulated and poisoned his bride out of pure hatred, this is a vengeance 20 years in the making, an anger he carried since he was a child, losing his mother who could’ve been saved because the police didn’t pay enough attention. He wanted the police to feel the same pain as he did, losing a family he loves. It didn’t make it right, but I get it, an eye for an eye, blood for blood.

But Manabu tried to kill Asami just because his ego was bruised. His whole motive was that he only wanted her to like him. I mean, he didn’t know that the fire would spread that quickly but so many things could’ve gone wrong, she could’ve died in so many ways only because he wanted her, the girl who just wasn’t into him, to LIKE him. 

Look, I symphatize with a lot of DetCo villains because im not a morally stunted bastard but this is just extremely different. While I know Takasugi is an asshole, at least I understand why he did it, he was trying to avenge his DEAD MOTHER while Manabu just wants to have a gf like cmon now. 

[marivanilla05]

Totally agree with this!

As someone who's grown up watching the early series repeatedly (mainly due to lack of dubbed episodes) that era of the show is really special to me! At the time, the plot and roles of the characters seemed simpler, so there was a bit more freedom in terms of their actions.

I just want to say: I love when characters have hobbies/personality outside of their usual traits! Usually, in DetCo, it happens just to fill in plot gaps, especially in anime-only content. Not to say that it doesn't happen in the manga as well, of course!

As a child watching the show, Ran stood out to me the most. She was strong, caring, kind, patient, and had a strong sense of justice. She was my childhood role model. Unlike Conan/Shinichi (who I did admire for other reasons), I felt like I understood Ran better.

Like you mentioned above, Ran was a perfect "stand-in(?)" for the parts Gosho needed her to play before we had this huge ensemble of characters, and I think that's what made her so involved in the storyline other than being a love-interest.

I think the reason why it doesn't feel like she's getting in on any action (lately) is that Gosho seems to favor portraying her emotional side in a romantic context. Which is not a bad thing, per se, as it is part of her character, but people seem to forget Ran's other qualities and reduce her to just one aspect of who she is, when she is so much more.

(P.S. gotta say, Ran's theme is definitely the best out of the og soundtrack, with this one from movie 5 being my personal second favorite)

Hi Mirror! I hope your week is starting off on a good note. I have a question for you: what's your favourite thing about Ran and/or Ran's interactions with the other characters? ~ Santa

Short long answer: This.

Long short answer: Beneath the cut.

So here's something I once dropped the esteemed - and infinitely-more talented - @scratchface in a DM, which is probably the closest anyone's ever come to making her respect Ran.

"Ran has enough parts in her for a good character. She probably has enough parts for three or four good characters. When a series, however banal, runs for a thousand installments, it can come up with those purely by accident."

This may sound backhanded to you and a lot of others, but it's genuinely, unironically why Ran appeals to me so much. Having grown up on AmeComi and Batman specifically, I'm used to stitching all my favorite characterizations out of dozens of different stories that at-best pay only lip service to each other's continuity and at-worst go out of their way to contradict and overwrite each other. What's really fun (and/or "fun") about Conan is that it somehow manages the same despite having only one author, one publication format, and one almost painfully-faithful adaptation.*

And Ran - especially early manga Ran - is the absolute pinnacle of this. Where Shinichi/Conan and Kogoro had their roles pounded out in cast-iron from the getgo, Ran's a Jack (Jill?) of All Trades who can play almost any other part the ensemble needs. Sympathizing civilian? She can "How awful!" with the best of 'em. Butt-kicking cavalry? Watch those fists fly. Distressed Damsel? She can give even that creaky old trope a level of agency I'd never thought possible - just witness Golden Apple, or the wharf showdown, or:

Better still, the fact that she has to be the plot-hook for roughly one-third of the filler cases gives her a correspondingly wide range of interests and hobbies, for those willing to squint at the margins. You know she's a black-belt; you probably know she goes "Rhosts, Rhaggy?!" at the slightest mention of the supernatural; but did you know her for a Three Kingdoms reader?

A gambling prodigy?

A Yoko Okino fan, just like her pop?

Scraps these may be - but it's usually from scraps that you get the richest fruit in any Transformative work. And so it goes with her presence on AO3: a shadow of Shinichi's or Kaito's in raw numbers, nevertheless capable of unparalleled tear-jerking and side-splitting from any author that puts in the work. Hell, I don't even mind the straight-up bashfics that turn her flighty or abusive; canon's planted enough seeds to make that sort of characterization juuust this side of plausible, and plenty entertaining besides.**

(Predictable self-plug: I've spent years working on a longfic to stitch all the above (and a dozen other traits!) into a single, coherent narrative tentatively titled Hey, What If We Didn't Lie To And Manipulate Our Female Lead For 1050+ Chapters?. There are authors who've pulled off similar projects for Shinichi, Kaito, and Shiho, but I think as far as Ran goes it's still fairly uncharted territory - and will probably remain so even if I finish it in 2030 or thereabouts.)

Of course, if I told you that my Purely Story-Minded Doylist Eye was the only thing at work, you'd call me a liar, and you'd be right. Ran's no less flexible in terms of lowdown wish-fulfillment, whether you want a straightforward action-girlfriend, an overbearing Onee-chan, a too-pure Ingenue/explanation magnet, or - my personal favorite - an old childhood buddy who can needle you in ways nobody else would ever have the nerve and the right to. She's got the range. She's got the style. One day, she might even get a story - a canon story - that deserves her again...

(Detractors, consciously or otherwise, usually point to the fact that Ran's irrelevant to most of the Big Organization Cases, and indeed is meant to remain irrelevant to them for as long as they keep happening. Just three or four years ago I might've shuffled my feet and mumbled an objection along the lines of "She has relevance, and she can get more!", but at this point I've long given up on any impression that the Big Organization Cases are meant to hold any weight at all. Far as I'm concerned they're just an extra-dull flavor of filler; the series' real heart is in the slice-of-life romcom fluff, and very possibly always has been.)

* "But what about the live-act-" What about the live-action?

** In controlled doses, anyway.

[marivanilla05]

I saw a screenshot of this episode, and I was reminded that I rewatched it (and recorded some scenes) last month. Anyway, just thought some of you might want to see it.

(edit: added the tag "out of context detco dub" to all the related videos on my blog for easier searching)

[marshmallowgoop]

[xay2jang]

sometimes to avoid running into a murder hattori decides to book a place thats already had murders. 30/70 chance of actually working

[hawatson]

I hate being sick because I tend to get flashbacks when I’m sick. I need to stick by my partner’s morals because if I don’t I might walk out the front door of the house and do something my partner would never be okay with.

[forffax]

wait actually this too. them

[akai-anna]

1/3 Szia!Láttam a bingót, és pont jól is jött mert azt hiszem, hogy nem értek valamit. [Sokmindent] Megtennéd, hogy választasz 3 tetszőleges párost a Detective Conan-ből, és kitöltöd velük? (Bocs, hogy szabályt szegek de fontos, hogy te válassz, mert kíváncsi vagyok, de még nem tudom, hogy ki-kicsoda, és szerintem hiányzik a képből egy-két más fontos mozzanat is.)

(For non-Hungarian followers: I was asked to pick 3 optional ships from Detective Conan for this Ship Opinion Bingo. Answering in English to make it available for anyone who might want to read it.)

In advance: I have no self-control and ended up making a whole project of this, my deepest apologies that it got quite lengthy, Lizzy, hope you'll still have some fun reading this essay.

Notes:

me, failing right at step one: not 3 (i started thinking about, and kept coming up with more and more possibilities, then reduced them again to just A Few TM, I REALLY DID TRY) but 6 relationships which almost ended up as 9... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ *Oops!... I did it again starts playing*

relationship: i mean the word in its broadest sense (felt like confirming this bc i see it around in only a romantic context these days, so not only OTP sense of shipping but BrOTP sense too), meaning every and all kind of connections between people/characters, bc as an ace+aro non-romantic connections mean a lot to me

i checked everything that apply, even if they seem contradicting at first glance (just like fic: in one This thing applies, in the other This other thing applies sort of way)

i love you and these characters too much to just do the bingo without Commentaries TM (you poked the door with a stick and it slammed right open)

I. Kudou Shinichi/Edogawa Conan - Mouri Ran

The Main Pair of DetCo (As you have likely gathered from osmosis knowledge + WATCHING THE FIRST MOVIE, I AM STILL SCREAMING ABOUT THAT)

Elaboration on certain points:

Oh there's no way this will end well & I can make it so fucked up & I can make it so stupid: The Situation Is already fucked up, so I don't even have to do anything, and I'm here to see how it will unfold. And before it gets better (so not the ultimate end) they have to work through a really messy tangle of things. Also they are already endearingly stupid, so that is covered too.

I don't see them as romantic & In a Relationship & Most codependent bitches on earth: I do see them as romantic (DEFINITELY!) but they are so much more than just romantic; their relationship has so many wonderful layers. The deep connection they share is not just romantic; THEY SHAPE EACH OTHER. I view them as the Ultimate Example of the Soulmate trope: in every universe, they are connected and important to each other in one way or another. There is no Shinichi without Ran and no Ran without Shinichi. They can and do function without each other but also their driving force and motivation is very deeply rooted in each other.

brb gotta go through their whole ship tag: in progress, have been at it for a couple months now, still working on it.

Not dating but married nonetheless: ONLY DIDN'T MARK IT BC THEY ARE DATING (IT ONLY TOOK THEM ROUGHLY 1000 CHAPTERS!!!), AND IT'S A RUNNING JOKE THAT THEY ARE HUSBAND AND WIFE (Bless Suzuki Sonoko, the biggest ShinRan shipper and supporter out there).

A little ShinRan moment that I love:

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II. Takagi Wataru - Satou Miwako

The First Police Officer Romance of DetCo

I can make it so stupid: THEY ALREADY ARE, YOUR HONOUR, and love them that way.

Oh the devotion: just one thing to say and one to show. *inhales deep* Takagi Wataru is absolutely besotted, the sweetest man, Malewife Material TM. *shoves these particular panels in your face*

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III. Kudou Shinichi/Edogawa Conan - Hattori Heiji

The Detective of the East and West AKA Detective Buddies And Bestest of Bros

Basically canon to me & I don't really see them as romantic: THEY ARE THE BEST OF FRIENDS YOUR HONOUR, SUCH HIGH QUALITY FRIENDSHIP, THE LOVE THERE, THE WAY THEY CARE SO MUCH ABOUT EACH OTHER, IT MEANS SO MUCH TO ME I'm dYinG- (But also Heiji having the biggest Crush TM on Shinichi never stops being a source of joy because no one goes through the trouble of getting picked as a "Great Sherlockian" despite preferring Ellery Queen, to attend a Sherlock Holmes Fan meeting SO HE CAN POTENTIALLY MEET WITH HIS RIVAL HE MET THE ONCE AT THAT POINT, FCKIN DEDICATION THERE)

Compatible brand of freaks: they are definitely Weird TM, my little weirdo mystery maniacs, definitely forces of nature.

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IV. Kudou Shinichi/Edogawa Conan - Kuroba Kaito/Kaitou KID

To quote the creator: "But I wanted a rival that was an arch nemesis to detectives, natural enemy to appear. [...] who’s smart as Conan and can oppose him."

I can make it so fucked up & I can make it so stupid: Been there, Done That, Canon Already Provides.

I don't really see them as Romantic & In a relationship: I can see them as many things, be it platonic, partnership, romance, friendship, really, I'm not picky about the nature of their relationship for some reason.

brb gotta go through their whole ship tag: as with ShinRan, it's a thing in progress.

They enable the worst of each other & Compatible brand of freaks: reckless tendencies, the both of them, Ultimate Chaos Bringer Duo, also Bastards To Each Other TM. On the other hand: they are already competent on their own, but they can work really well together too, these absolute gremlins, Scarily Compatible And Competent.

Oh there's no way this will end well & Thematically delicious: complicated situations, Detective-Thief (have always been weak to the trope) business, really, there's bound to be at least a disaster or two.

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V. Mouri Ran - Suzuki Sonoko ( - Kudou Shinichi/Edogawa Conan)

Childhood Friends since the start of time (or at least kindergarten, together with Shinichi they make my beloved Sakura Trio)

General thoughts: THEY LOVE AND CARE ABOUT EACH OTHER SO MUCH, YET THERE IS SUCH LOVELY TEASING and the potential of stupid teenage shenanigans is STRONG. In any arrangement, they are dear to me, CHILDHOOD BESTIE SQUAD.

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VI. Takagi Wataru - Kudou Shinichi/Edogawa Conan

Police Officer of my heart and The Lil Gremlin Partnership

Basically canon to me & I don't see them as romantic: they proved time and time again that THEY ARE AWESOME PARTNERS IN MYSTERY-AND-CRIME SOLVING, SO MUCH COMPATIBILITY THERE, AWESOME WORKING TEAM, FCKIN CANON ON THAT ONE.

I can make it so stupid: as always, They Already Are, most endearingly stupid too.

They're sweet: THEY ARE SUPER SWEET, SO CUTE, THEY HAVE SO MUCH RESPECT FOR EACH OTHER AND CARE SO MUCH, EXCUSE ME AS I CRY.

brb gotta go through their whole partnership tag: I already have, and even tried other kind of searches to find more content of them, I'm crying. T_T

Bonus: Takagi Wataru, always the witness for his Cryptid Moments TM, and also is amazed by him since day 1 (even if he doesn't know Conan is Shinichi), and Shinichi feeling a kinship with him. (Amongst other things not mentioned here.)

Hope you enjoyed this weird ride, and if you have any questions about who is who, what is happening, or anything you are curious about, you know where to find me, Lizzy! (✿◕‿◠)~★

Bonus: you seemed to like the Kitten Hold, so have a litter of kittens as a goodbye.