#davekat-sucks did

[batsarebetterthanpeople]

Honestly the chad homestuck fandom who just lets a user who's name is davekat-sucks get away with regularly posting in the davekat tag unimpeded cross the virgin ofmd fandom who whines when even mild criticism of Izzy gets posted in the Izzy Hands tag

[buzzingroyalty]

@davekatweek 2024 free day old old old concept based on the phrase TAKE ME TO YOUR LEADER karkat crash landed on earth and they are on a road trip to the white house. normally they sleep in the car but they got themselves a nice hotel for the night

[ale-cart]

Them eating spaghetti or something, and smiles

I'm assuming you mean Dave and karkat, I hope this suffices :DD

Karkats knows, he's avoiding eye contact. Dave probably zoning out idk

[hero-dualies-3]

i think i finally get all those “maybe we could do with a little less shipping in fandom. this is not a complaint but a cry for help” aromantic posts

[nutzworth]

was on twitter (oops) and theres a ton of people going apeshit over kanaya in the upd8 (hs:bc upd8) right obviously and i saw one (1) post about "still hating hs2. jade would not fucking do this" and like. huff.

fosmf if youre there and youve read the hsbc update tell me your thoughts on this. im so curious

in MY opinion, i really like jade in postcanon in general. OBVIOUSLY, the stuff with davekat SUCKS + IS WEIRD + outb of character (i doubt jade would cross boundaries in such a weird way? like a girl can take a hint esp for the people she loves.) but in the update it goes over jade and why she did what she did and like a cute little summary of the yiffy situation. i never really hated yiffy? and i hate yiffy even less with the update. narration + backstory with reasoning did its job.

SUMMARY, AS I SEE IT: jade was dating around mortals but came to the conclusion that they dont want HER, they want to say they dated the GOD OF SPACE. they wanted clout and she hated it. and i dont know. i think she went a little crazy cus of it. she was like I am truly alone in this world. Im cursed to be alone. Im doomed because of my aspect. How can i fix this. solution: HAVE A BABY. and it needs to be one of her god friends. she cant have a baby with a random mortal. john and dave are boys; they cant bear children. she cant have a baby with roxy or jane because she doesnt know them well. that leaves: rose lalonde so jade has a baby with rose lalonde and keeps it a secret. she talks to jane, and this is fine because its largely professional, and she makes sure yiffany (the baby) doesnt become a celebrity. yiffy is normal. yiffy is a normal kid and she has a normal life. jade needs her to have a normal life. jade needs to feel that connection with normality that she never had, jade needs to make sure yiffy doesnt go through the same damn thing she did. and she keeps it a secret. she bonded with rose. if kanaya finds out, thatll tear all three of them apart. jade craves the company. jade craves friendship and closeness. but of course, shes a space player and shes doomed. so they find out. and yiffy gets on the news. and everything is torn

ANYWAY: i think thats so cool. i think thats a great explanation. i think jade WOULD do that is the thing. its a logical train of thought and she makes some stupid mistakes and bad decisions but overall its rational. if i was in her situation i would probably do the same thing. yiffany longstocking is like jade harleys' my love mine all mine by mitski you get me. jade harley yearns for the closeness and having a baby can fill that. what other option did she have? she was crazy

interested to hear other peoples thoughts on this. i may just be biased because i love jade harley

[davekat-sucks]

opinons on johnkat and johndave as ships?

also have you seen that carrd that tells people its morally wrong to have headcanons of transmasc john/cis guy john just because of the toblerone wish lmao

That fucking Toblerone. People are taking that kind of shit too seriously. Johnkat and JohnDave are interesting because they were the top two competing yaoi pairs in Homestuck. Because all three are main characters, but also two characters (Karkat and Dave) have strong bonds with the lead, John Egbert. John and Dave are childhood friends and have known each other the longest. They were the first two that we have seen interact with each other in the beginning of the webcomic. We even see it implied Dave may have feelings for John, but respects John's sexuality and doesn't force his feelings onto him. For Karkat, he parallels John as leader to his Sgrub session. Karkat interacts John first out of any humans. Dude had literally watched him grow up on Trollian and developed feelings for the guy on sight. For a guy who obsesses with quadrants, you think he would not like the love/hate at first sight, but he did because of John. And as time went on, he comes to respect John as he is and realizes maybe it isn't exactly hate he is feeling. It sucks these two aren't the top anymore and now it is Davekat of all things, despite the two characters having more buildup with John than they do with each other. And more bullshit is people believing that Davekat was planned all along. Fuck Hussie's commentary.

[starsnores]

I have no clue why they nailed home davekat as hard as they did tbh. And this is once again coming from the person who used to be huge into davekat, to the point where when i got back into homestuck it was a legit shock for me to not really like it anymore. Davekat being my otp used to be like. Part of my fandom identity and now its just kinda?? Davekat itself isn’t cringe but dear god i feel like the way the hs team handled davekat is. Makes me a feel a little embarrassed if some cute art makes me smile which is wild. It’s gotten to the point where i really only like davekat if its fully removed from source and in its own little bubble. They went so hard on it that it looped back around to being cringe for me personally at least

I feel like the reason is because of how they treat gamzee and gamkar tbh. I can’t really agree with the people saying “hey this is what you should be shipping” when the same people are fumbling an amazing character and concept so hard that they absolutely ruin it. If anything it makes me want to explore gamzee more as a proper character. I want gamzee to be given a fair chance and to be treated with the same respect and dignity that vriska got.

Agree with all that last part but that's kinda sad that you can't enjoy davekat the same anymore :o( the idea that how it was treated in canon killed it for you sucks, especially bc that's the opposite of the intended reaction it seems. Idk there's a feeling that whoever wrote that pesterquest route wanted to put down gamkar for davekats benefit and shipwars are always cringe especially when it's the source material doing it so. I guess calling how davekat was handled cringe makes sense but still sucks that you cant enjoy it the same.

[nekropsii]

you've been posting hot takes for ages now so i need to know what was the post that finally did it for that anon. was it the dirkri post? the aroace kankri? the fanon davekat sucks? who knows...

It could be literally fucking anything. I've gotten spammed with anon hate calling me queerphobic for saying other real life people's genders and sexualities aren't my business. I've gotten an anon calling me a proshipper for... Not harassing people I guess? Despite the fact that I've made it very clear that that crowd makes me uncomfortable. I've been sent ableist rape fics for saying I don't like Cronus/CroTuna. I've been badgered and called racist many times for pointing out that Hussie is racist, providing proof, and showing how that manifests in Homestuck and their other works.

I cannot ever tell what really breaks the camel's back. People get mad and call people names for any reason. But this especially applies if they have critical opinions on something they enjoy, or simply do not agree with them, no matter how minor that thing is.

My best guess is that some people do not like that I tag my posts appropriately, lol. I use tags as an organizational tool for the most part, but I've noticed some people take someone maintagging any critical - or, god forbid, negative - thoughts, ever, to any degree, at any time, literally ever, like literally fucking ever, as a... Personal attack, apparently? This especially, ESPECIALLY applies to shipping. It's kinda lame. Just scroll past or whatever. You went into a main tag, where everyone posts any content of any kind. I do not post to tags specifically meant for positivity, I do not bother people who enjoy things I don't. I just sit in my corner and talk to the air. If people want to listen, that's their prerogative. If they don't, that's also their prerogative. There's untagged incest in the Homestuck main tags all the time, let me whinge for 5 minutes. Damn.

[cringefail-clown]

You reblogged it from me, so I’m sending you an ask, too. We respect ask game etiquette in this household.

10, 13, and/or 16!! Whichever you want to do.

Have a nice day!

haha thanks for the ask!

10. worst part of fanon

gods rose and the therapist thing must be it. homegirl cannot handle that, she barely keeps her own shit together. she has a degree in wikipedia level psychology and thats it. its always so funny reading like davekat fics where dave goes to rose for advice, because in reality itd be the other way around, she doesnt know what shes doingg half the time! dave has to mediate rosemary dates otherwise rose will explode!! shes a smart cookie but oh god shes a mess

13. worst blorbofication

look, i love davekat, ive shipped it since like 2013, but what the fandom did to these guys ill never forgive. like, karkat got basically simplified down to daves arm candy when hes such a fun character with a ton of depth! and dave! he can be downright nasty in the comic, he has some really toxic mindsets that he has to grow out of, hes no baby hes an asshole! both of them are tbh, and thats a major part of why i fell in love with their dynamic, theyre just so fucking funny together. i need more fics where they both suck and its hilarious

[callmearcturus]

For the choose violence ask game: 8, 9, 10, 11!

8. common fandom opinion that everyone is wrong about

Jake English is the most emotionally intelligent person in Homestuck and everyone who disagrees is wrong.

9. worst part of canon

jesus fuck that's a fucking question and a half, lemme think

10. worst part of fanon

ksdljflksdjfl i don't know how the answer can be anything but vriska, honestly. actually, no. no. i'm gonna say what the fandom did to tavros, basically throwing out his entire character to justify why its actually not that bad that vriska broke his back and then tried to make him apologize to her for being a "cripple" fuck off, leave tavros alone

already answered 11 so uuuuh

worst part of canon..................

........

Like. I logically understand why the Retcon and the accelerated ending of Homestuck happened. I do. I understand that Hussie just needed the story to be over at last, and as a writer, I respect that deeply and it was entirely their right to do it the way they did imo.

however

the actual execution of the Retcon has aged really badly for me.

The one and only part of it I can look at and say I liked was Terezi. I love how Terezi changes the universe by changing herself, and I think it's one of the most powerful and profound moments of the entire story, truly. The way she.... breaks herself and remakes herself into what she has to be to alter the course of reality is staggering.

But.... I have tremendous issues with the actual technical execution. The entirety of Vriskagram leaves me with a bad taste in my mouth.

(Which, some people might say "but it's the thing that made davekat canon" and my brother in karkat, davekat was already canon pre-retcon, that was the direction their relationship was going, it wasn't even subtle, i didn't need vriskagram for that)

That Vriska solved the Gamzee issue, fixed Rose's alcoholism, saved Terezi, got ahold of the music boxes to hop around and fix the prototyping, she fixes the Strider problem, and the way she supplants Karkat's entire point in the story honestly is so fucking aggravating. Vriska was a duplicitous turnways manipulator and she's flattened into a bandaid for the entire story. It sucks. It flattens everyone.

And on some level, thematically, it makes sense? She is the Thief of Light, and Light is Agency, so her greatest triumph is stealing the agency from everyone until the spotlight is hers alone and it washes her out. Its a triumph for the Alpha Timeline and its a tragedy for Vriska herself as she loses all of the progress she made as a person.

sighs

And also the fact that... Rose and Dirk never talk, no one defends Jake from Vriska's bullying, the way Jane and Jake's character arcs hard stop and never get resolved, the way the whole Roxy Died thing is just not dealt with-- so many balls get dropped because of the compressed ending, and on a technical level, I feel like the quality of HS post-retcon drops like a rock tossed into a canyon. And the glory of Dirk And Dave's conversation cannot singlehandedly fix that. Esp bc while its the perfect dismount of Dave's character arc, it's not the end of Dirk's. Out of the four alpha kids, only Roxy gets a full arc and it sucks.

DEEP BREATH

yeah that's the worst part of hs

[fluffyartbl0g]

Going through all my follows rn, what's your favourite character/ship (platonic or otherwise) dynamics?

(also I know I've just randomly shown up in your asks, your time travel au has been an absolute joy to read, keep it up friendo!!!)

Thank you so much :DDD!!! I'm so glad that you've enjoyed reading my time travel au and I super appreciate the ask cause I LOVE TALKING ABOUT MY ONE PIECE OPINIONS >:DDD!!!! I'll put it under read more ouo

Anyways my OTP,,,, is,,, NAKAMASHIP!!!! There's nothing more that I love than the strawhat crew ; - ; I have literally shed tears over all of my strawhats and I love that they all love eachother deeply... On my one piece reread- I made sure to pay extra attention to all the character interactions and jokes. And can I just say, I see so many people talk about how the strawhats barely interact post time skip, or that some characters are basically strangers to each other (I saw someone say this about Franky and Zoro), but THEY DO TALK!!! THEY HAVE SO MANY FUN INTERACTIONS!!!

Oda is SO good at balancing these funny little character moments between important story beats >:O I think Zou in particular had a bunch of nakamaship moments that I really loved. One of my favourite lesser loved dynamics in the crew is usopp and robin (which you would know if you looked at my art of them XD) because they have a bunch of funny bits between them :3

My romantic OTP of all time is ZOLU THOUGH. And I tried really hard to not ship it immediately when i first started reading one piece, because I do this kind of thing alot when I get into media where I latch onto the protag and the guy close to the protag and ship em together??? Like I was so obsessed with JohnDave that DaveKat just hurt me,,, And I liked bakudeku so much that I couldn't get into kiribaku... AND I DIDNT WANT THE TREND TO CONTINUE TO ONE PIECE T - T And it SOMEWHAT did, but it also somewhat didnt. When I first heard Zosan was the most popular ship, like leagues above zolu, I was in physical pain,,, But REMEMBER; nakamaship is my first otp, so I still really enjoyed the idea of zoro and sanji because I enjoy the dynamics between ALL of my strawhats >:(!!!

I'm super duper obsessed with one piece and it sucks that there's all this great fanfiction out there that is effectively barred against me because there's a ship that I don't like >:/ So what I did to become more accepting of Zosan is,,, I drew them making out a ton XD If you look at my early one piece doodle piles, you'll see one of them with a couple of zosan things HAHAHA. Honestly it vaguely worked, but I'm super picky about the zosan fics I read, cause I feel like people can wildly mischaracterize zoro pretty easily.

Anyways I don't think I really answered ur question properly, I really love the king/knight loyalty but also just good bros dynamic that's happening with luffy and zoro :) But in general I just love a good sunshine person/grumpy person ship! (geraskier, bakudeku, megamenace, kagehina, hitomi and shousuke <<< quite upset that the ship sank, Fakir and Ahiru, wrightworth, etc)

Thanks again for the question <3

[booperbeanv3]

🔥

Homduck

UNPOPULAR OPINION: i mean besides "if you read homestuck without the slurs/poorly aged content you're not reading homestuck" i got nothin. Homestuck will always be dated as hell, that's why people read it nowadays (and. i guess peer pressure)

a lot of old homestuck misconceptions died out in 2012. most people are really reasonable on Tumblr in my experience so I'll rapidfire ramble here. sorry you get opinions plural

-> The way people treat June is insane. You're not gonna die if you admit she used to be a dude named John. Especially considering, y'know, June doesn't exist in the canon. Dove Strider has more basis than June and I don't even like that headcanon (<- FtM Striders FTW)

-> Cont. pls stahp making june like diet jade . you HAVE a silly girl. right there. pls. jade is silly. june is mischievous. learn your jesting terminology! some of you guys write her like your quirky tranny oc and not like. a person. it's rlly obvious for homestuck characterisation in particular bc most characters are at least two-note. even the dancestors. and those guys SUCKED

-> Horrible Gamzee is actually top-tier. Bro is a tar pit. Toxic gamkar(ezi) needs to be explored more... in a way that ISN'T "hurr addicts are evil" i have SUCH strong opinions on how addiction is written in fanworks HOLD ME BACK

-> what the fuck why did we never get good quadrants that aren't flushed or meowrails this annoys me so much. give me a good kismesissitude ffs. pre-retcon davekat could've been so awesome...

-> The retcon was fucking retarded. The way they just never address the disconnect John probably has between all his friends because of this. Maybe it's addressed in the epilogues/HS^2 but I. I'm not touchin that shit

-> The act 6 art style is ugly and I don't understand WHY they kept it up for the post-canon content. Actually I do know why. It's easy to emulate and mass produce at the speed of light. Still, it lacks the charm of the earlier panels. I'd rather have Hussnasty Round 2 than Act 6 Bloboramas

[kingofdersecest-2]

I just think the topic of couples in Homestuck is very silly because it seems like the comic can never show two people becoming a couple, it's always just something that happens off-screen and suddenly a thing. I will always think it's hilarious that Rose had shown absolutely zero romantic interest in Kanaya until suddenly they were a thing. Same with Dave and Karkat. Jade and Davesprite were a canonical couple and then became un-canon in the very same sentence. We were told Vriska and dream John had dated but never saw any of it. I might be wrong on a couple details (possibly forgetting others too, forgive me if that is the case) but it just seems pretty silly to me.

It really is amazing. The best couples are the ones that were never written to be couples. Look at the Beta kid ships, outside of Jade/Rose (lol) almost all of the Beta kids had extensive interactions that could be cited as shipping material. Obviously it wasnt, those conversations were only meant to be read as friends talking to each other over the internet. But therein lies the rub, having a strong relationship, even if its platonic, is an excellent source of shipping material because of it being genuine, and being canon. Like, John and Rose had more conversations then Rose did with Kanaya, and those motherfuckers got married. Let that sink in. Rose talked more to almost everyone else in the Beta kid crew then her own fucking wife. Outside of the Beta kid crew, the next best written relationship was Dave/Terezi because that was written with them as strangers to friends, to eventually partners. It remains really the only relationship to have done so. But of course, once they reached that partner status, thats when it went off the fucking rails. Kanaya/Rose went directly into lovers off rip. Dave and Karkat started out as hating each each other, time skipped to best bros, then alternate timelined to partners. Fucking Dave/Jane has more development then Dave/Karkat or Rose/Kanaya, know why? Because Dave actually expressed attraction to Jane. He called her hot. Thats how low this bar is. I dont think Rose has ever paid Kanaya a fucking compliment. Called her cute or beautiful or anything like that. Every time a ship is written with the intention of becoming one, Hussie (or whomever is writing Homestuck at the time) just trips down the fucking stairs. But whenever a ship is not intended, you get some of the best goddamn development for a potential ship. The image of Jane blushing after Dave called her hot, is way more fucking powerful and way more compelling of a ship then Rosemarys goddamn wedding picture. @davekat-sucks thoughts?

[becquerel]

u are so real for these posts dudeee all these "yeah i like it but homestuck sucks :3" kids drive me up the fucking wall if it sucks so much why dont you go read something else

or read something at all bc they did not read homestuck they just looked at davekat or rosemary fanart on twitter and decided they kin nepeta now even though they don't know nepeta at all or some shit like that

im going insane sorry 4 being a little hater (of the haters)

I think its just lame & a boring way to read things. i like homestuck

[davekat-sucks]

Hello, I want to add that most time players suck, by a lot. Seriously it’s laughable that theirs only like two successful time players in all of Paradox Space, Caliborn and Damara, and it’s the fact they doesn’t understand something laughably basic and Christian. Suffer now to be rewarded later. Sure we might forget because Caliborn is a funny goblin manlet but he suffered, suffered a lot (because he is a masochist) because he chose to play the hardest game of Sburb (Caliborn is a Fromsoft gamer) . And he was rewarded with the power to do whatever the fuck he wanted, the power to put himself on the path of suffering so he can achieve it, sure he did the opposite of ascending (like Mobster Kingpin) but it does give a idea what a time player’s storyline is supposed to look like. Our next case is Damara, a girl who suffered so much she DOOMED HER OWN SESSION OUT OF SPITE, the funny thing is due to her acting like John when he was retconing but still being bound to alpha timeline time travel bullshit she indirectly caused her own suffering.

Now our Beta set, absolutely fucking atrocious. Dave doesn’t seem to realize that going down the path of the hero would give him a understanding on why his life is so bad, and if he still think it sucks he could figure out a way to change it while still within alpha timeline because through sburb bullshit he’s probably the reason Bro is a possessed Mall Ninja. Aradia doesn’t DARE to step out of her role, maid or time, despite the fact that one is basically finding the right time to strike after observing everything and the other is being rewarded after suffering so greatly. You can argue her being alive is reward enough and the fact she influenced herself to being a robot is proof of my theory that time players eventually write their own past but is she seriously just going to bounce around aimlessly like some sort of ghost? Fuck that’s ironically sad, she was the most alive when she was dead.

Where was I going with this? Oh right, the only thing good to come out of the Alpha sets are the time players, so Caliborn and Damara beat Dave and Aradia in Time Fuckery

Lord English and The Handmaid/Damara really are the better Time Players out there. In the case of Epilogues and Homestuck 2/Beyond Canon, Dave and Aradia are still avoiding to be suffered or face the harsh situation that is thrown at them. Especially when they themselves, made direct mistakes that would lead to some consequences in the near future. We see this with Meat Dave as all he does is just use Karkat to distract him with love as they go along with Kanaya to go after Dirk. He is called out to be useless. Not taking part in anything about Ult Dirk or Alt Calliope. Davebot and Aradia are both relaxing and enjoying themselves as they watched JADE HARLEY suffer more by letting Alt Calliope take over. Aradia left SOLLUX in the Candy Timeline and doesn't think much of him all because he didn't want to stand by and watch the timeline fall apart anymore. Davebot believes that him leaving Jade was fine and that he should be gay for Karkat, that it will solve everything. Davebot may have reached Ultimate, but I don't think it's a reward in itself. Perhaps it is a suffering that he remains blissfully unaware until he acknowledges what he is doing is fucked. But he will never accept it or face it. And I'll be pissed if they try to say that Davekat by the end will be his reward for being imprisoned in a robot body when it was Dave himself who chose to KILL HIMSELF to ascend because fucking Obama told him so.

[pesterloglog]

Roxy Lalonde, Jade Harley

Page 582-586

ROXY: ohh its just jade blowin on that fluyt

ROXY: huffin and puffin up a storm on that bad boy getting real rose

ROXY: and all that noise had me thinking rowdy russet had come back from the dead

ROXY: only to be tragically eaten by a hungry chess guy all over again

JADE: roxy!

ROXY: *contrary to what his name would have you believe rowdy russet was one of my sweetest cats btw :(

JADE: aw :(

JADE: oops did the noise wake you? im about a decade rusty at sucking with this thing. id play an instrument i actually know, but it seems the orchids have too refined taste for the bass.

JADE: soooooo picky

ROXY: nah i was already up making my rounds

ROXY: got my new pjs and i gotta make em known like a traveling circus showing off their newest bearded lady

JADE: i do like your new pj's!

ROXY: thank you theyre the hautest couture on the market fresh from the mind of the schoonervilles very own hikikomaryam

JADE: i notice you and davekat have been getting a lot of clothes from her recently

ROXY: yeah aside from getting those guys to wear something other than the same stank pjs everyday

JADE: (heheh)

ROXY: its also just good to keep her busy with something other than brooding in quiet contemplation all hours of the non-day

ROXY: anywho

ROXY: whatre you cooking up in here harl

JADE: im growing orchids onto the trunk of this tree!

ROXY: they just grow hanging off the branch like that?

JADE: yeah! orchids are a type of plant called epiphytes, meaning they can survive off the backs of other plants instead of in the dirt

JADE: the roots attach themselves to the tree and after some aggressive loving and watering eventually they can grow on the tree all by themselves!

ROXY: ohh so theyre like mistletoe

JADE: well actually mistletoe is parasitic, they suck the water and nutrients straight out of the trees they grow on

JADE: orchids don't do that at all! they just use the tree like an anchor to get to their sweet spot so they can grow. for an orchid to kill a tree it'd have to be huuuuuge

JADE: like huge enough to block out all the sunlight and keep it for itself

ROXY: neat

ROXY: so whats that plant you got in the corner over there

JADE: im glad you asked!

JADE: whoa