#cw harassment

[alexandraisyes]

I am being harassed by a member of the TSAMS community.

Hello chat! Unfortunately there is no rest for the wicked.

A previous member of my server was banned for discussing NSFW topics in a channel with minors. They already had one previous offense of linking a NSFW fanfiction in a channel with minors. Anyone in my server knows that just that offense is bannable. We gave them a second chance (a mistake) because they had just joined the server, but they spent their time there breaking minor rules, arguing with moderators, and eventually asking about NSFW content in front of kids.

Proof of behavior:

They used to go by the name bloodmoonfollower, then changed it to nexusservant, and now to officialnexuskisser. They have been banned in two other servers other than mine for spreading slander about me and breaking discord's TOS. One of these servers was the official TSBS server before I became a mod.

Now that I am a mod in TSBS they are trying to damage my reputation by reaching out to my friends, server members, and followers and telling them that I have been lying about this action that they did in a public server that has several eye witnesses.

They spammed my mods until I DMed them, explained why they were banned from my server.

Later, my mod joined a different server they were in that I somewhat co-own because I built the server. They lied to my mod, and tried to get back in their good graces after being cut off. After my mod remembered who they were, they reached out to me to handle the situation, since I have executive power in that server. I did so.

They then sent a friend of theirs to confront me about the situation.

After I confronted them they invited their girlfriend to the server to defend them.

They lied to my friends and fellow moderators about the situation.

It was quiet for a couple of weeks and then today they reached out to a friend and client of mine, whose server they moderated in until today (they were banned and removed after I filled my client in) to try to convince them that I was maliciously slandering them. I have not publicly discussed the situation until this post.

This post is being used for awareness and documentation purposes.

[zal-cryptid]

Misfits in Toyland

Plastic Coast, pages 12-14

[enemywasp]

Obviously I've been getting a bit of extra negative attention on tiktok lately, so here's a compilation of antis being so very "normal and morally correct"

[firewall000]

About the whole tiredsn0w situation…

I have recently been made aware of this whole situation in which tiredsn0ws essentially getting harassed. As a close friends of hers, I feel obligated to say something, however  I won't reveal my identity for my own sanity.

Most of the matter I will be commenting on stems from @sneakysnekbetch ‘s blog.

CW for mentions/discussions of bullying, fetishisation, sexualisation, racism, pedophilia etc.

I didn’t scroll as far on the blog, so the screenshot order will be what is newest.

First of all, sn0w has acknowledged that the drawing may come off as sexual but is not drawn to be. I can see how it’s uncomfortable but at the end of the day, the artist didn’t intend for it to be weird. You can find it weird, but wouldn’t you say the person who made the work knows more about it than you? Rhetorical. 

Second of all, to address the third and fourth image added in the first screenshot: it is so incredibly important to note that SCP-049 has BPD in this canon. He is heavily inspired by someone with BPD who Snow knows herself. The fixation/dependency/obsession that comes with having an FP is not weird just because it is platonic or familial-adjacent. Same for the last image. One of the tags was quite literally, ‘don’t tag as ship’, meaning it isn’t romantic:

Saying you ‘need someone’ is not an inherently sexual thing.

(Referring to third image, as its been cut off)

The problem with all your claims is that you leave out a shit ton of context and exaggerate what you do present.

What is depicted in the screenshot is not a tantrum, but a personal opinion that was phrased in a rather long way. Someone being non-sharing or not wanting to interact with ships is perfectly fine. I myself block SCP-049 x OC/SCP-035 shippers because it makes me uncomfortable. Likewise, this is just someone stating a boundary. Oh no! This person doesn’t like to see ships! Because of personal discomfort! 

Not to mention that Sn0ws discomfort with SCP-049 x SCP-035 stems from the fact it creates personal distress with her and, in canon, is considered abusive (See: That’s not love, Isabel.)

This isn’t bullying. Unless you provide contextually relevant details, it won’t be bullying.

Obviously, even if it isn’t bullying, it is still perfectly valid to feel upset from getting comments that aren’t 100% supportive of something you create. I’ve been there myself, but to call it bullying is wrong.  

Instead, that entire response just seems constructive.

Again, this doesn’t seem butthurt, rather just clarifying? You just love to blow things out of proportion, Snek.

Also, it is SO ironic how you talk about ‘’Multiple canons’, yet you’re the person who complains about SCP-049 acting a certain way in one canon?

We also see SCP-049 being extremely paranoid and obsessive with his ideals in the article. you  know what else? We also only see a bit of his character in the article. There are many ways to flesh out SCP-049s character and lore. Not everything has to be article-accurate. Especially because the entire deal with the SCP: Foundation is that there is no true canon. Go figure.

Overall, I agree with anon.

I agree that the first and latter image are odd, but those are incredibly old and also have been deleted for a good reason. The BBC one… yeah, extremely uncomfortable and weird. Again, deleted for a good fucking reason. Do I think an apology would have done better? Yeah. But still, deleted for good reason.

The second drawing, however… is just not sexual at all? Seriously, so many of your arguments boil down to, “I THINK IT IS SEXUAL EVEN THOUGH IT ISN’T!” and it is so embarrassing. So much of SCP-6118s character revolves around mental illness (that the author also has), so why are you so upset that mental illness is depicted realistically and, by proxy, uncomfortably? Get over it.

I will reiterate my point— the artist knows their own work better than yourself. But you don’t seem to understand that concept, as shown here:

(full art for context)

Again, that art is not sexual at all. It is someone in restraints. A soldier, no less. Restraints are so commonly used in non-sexual ways in literally so much media. You’d know if you stepped outside of spaces that portray such things as sexual.. Same with objectification. It is almost like soldiers are seen as living weapons rather than humans. You know, almost like they are being objectified. 

It is almost like Sn0ws writing is literal psychological horror and focuses on the consequences of abuse, mental illness and the like. 

Seriously, this one in particular is a you problem. It is no one’s fault but your own if the first thing you think of is sexual stuff. Actually embarrassing. 

You can so absolutely find a song choice weird, but again, Sn0w said she explained her intent with the drawing SEVERAL times. Not to mention that it is so incredibly common to interpret songs that are romantic or sexual in a completely different/platonic way. Trying to explain to someone what THEY meant when THEY made THEIR work is so cringe. 

For context, this is the drawing:

Stressing on the phrasing of ‘lyric(s)’. A lyric. Some lines. Not the entire song.

’Most of the work form her friends is just smut’, yeah, here is tiredsn0ws opinion on said work:

It is almost like a ton changes in a whole year and that there is a reason Sn0w distances herself from her old work and chose to rewrite it. Not to mention that sn0w has said the opposite about infantilisation of SCP-6118: 

She has expressed cringe and discomfort for most of her old works.

Key word: teenage. One makes and does things that are incredibly weird and uncomfortable and regrets them later on during teenhood. Sn0w has drastically changed since her old works. Here is a full overview of her thoughts regarding her old works:

Also, pointer: SCP-6118 is asexual and aromantic, not gay. Tiredsn0ws version of SCP-049 is asexual and aromantic. Tiredsn0w herself is asexual and aromantic. Aromanticism is very present in her new work. To add onto my point about SCP-6118 being SCP-049s FP (taken from rev. 10 from the scp sandbox) and their relationship being not-romantic:

Actually, none of her characters dynamics are written to be romantic:

I just had to save this one for last. Do you know how absolutely fucked up it is to compare someone to a literal fucking pedophile? A groomer? Snek, you literally forced Sn0w to reveal extremely personal and traumatic details just for her to prove she isn’t, but you don’t care about that and instead keep persisting, and for what? I will not share screenshots out of respect for sn0w, but you know very well. You should be ashamed of yourself.

In conclusion, most of this boils down to people not understanding aromanticism and personality disorders in writing and making up their own interpretations of what someone meant with their work while also invading their privacy.  There is a severe lack in understanding of actual story and thought process. Her work is not intended for a general audience and instead for  people with mental illness and those willing to sympathize with the grimmer aspects of it.  

And also, to Snek:  your arguments are not constructive, they are contextually spotty and so chronically online it makes my head hurt. Your weird usage of condescending titles (i.e. babygirl, bro, etc) aren’t cool or a good ‘got-cha’, it is incredibly uncomfortable and cringe to see. Do some internal insight on why you perceive so many things as fetishistic or sexual, because at this point, it is literally just a you problem.  Do better.

Also, a note about something tiredsn0w (and I, minimally) have noticed:

Micro aggressions are not okay, Snek. And neither are ignorance and performative actions. 

And lastly— leave tiredsn0w alone. I block people who I think are weird also. The block button is right there, it’s free and it is available for a reason. If I can do it, so can you. 

As per my personal opinion, I think that if someone has expressed distaste for their old work and wishes to disconnect themselves from it, then that is okay and should not be held over their head. The artist knows their work better than others. Even when intent is explained, it goes in on one ear and out on the other. 

[pixelchills]

Okay, you anon on my inbox,

you said that some followers of mine have been disappointed in me for partaking in the tsams harassment document, since I am a creator a lot of people look up to. I am not answering the ask itself because it has a blog mentioned, but I will answer your worries about the situation the best I can.

I am not going to talk about the drama itself since I have retained myself from discussing and spinning things any further about the situation.

But those of you who are mad at me for being part of the document; please at least read my part of it, if you haven't already.

The document was made as an archive for the victims of that hate blog (biased-tsams-confessions). Every screenshotted post on the document is available publicly, and all I did was allow my content and posts about the situation to be used in the document.

I was an unnecessary victim of the hate blog. Had no one name-dropped me in that blog and caused me to get anons and not-anons harass me and claim that I was one of the people sending minors gore, I would not have needed to publicly talk about anything relating to the drama. I would not be in the document if I wasn't a victim of being wrongly assumed to support NSFW being sent to minors. Which is a heavy allegation.

The document is not about the gore anon victims. It's about the victims of the witch hunt that people caused by starting to blame innocent people for being or supporting the gore anons.

I am not asking myself to be removed from the document. I am there as a victim. The other people in the document, as well as their actions, have nothing to do with me, or my part in this, other than them being my friends/mutuals in the fandom, and victims of the same hate blog and witch hunt. If some of them have answered or reacted aggressively to something regarding the situation, it is on them. It is not my job to decide what my friends/mutuals are allowed to answer or do.

During this whole time, I have kept saying over and over that people should just block and move on and ignore and not vague about each other, but I cannot control other people besides myself.

I do not support harassment of any kind. But I am also not going to be silent for being a victim. Even if I was just a small misstep for the hate blog, I was still targeted because of them. I was truly ready to just forgive them and put it all behind me, if their reply to my request to apologise to me publicly hadn’t been so aggressive, and they hadn’t targeted another innocent person later (Z). The mod responding to my dm said I was manipulating them, and that they didn't believe me. So their posted apology wasn't genuine, it was just them trying to save themselves from me exposing them.

If you think I should've not allowed my posts to be part of the document then I want to ask you this:

Should a victim be quiet about being harassed just because the other harassed people have said or done something you disagree with?

Again, what I had to deal with was very small compared to some of the other people the hate blog targeted, but even a small victim is a victim if they gained harm from it.

As what comes to the document: I did not write it, nor did I read it until it was publicly shared. All I did was give my permission to use my posts in it.

I was aware that the doc included names of the people who have also participated in or supported the harassment by the hate blog or shattered. 

I did not find the list of supporters necessary to include, and I told the others this. The list has recently been removed by the owner of the document after new information has come to light. I know this will not erase the fact the names were there.

I am not making statements about the harassment supporters mentioned in the doc, because I am not going to dig up if they should be there or not. I have spent too much time on this drama publicly already, when all I wanted to do was ignore it and let my friends vent their frustration to me privately if needed.

Despite the situation being what it is, I have wanted to stay neutral in it, besides the hate blog which is the sole reason I had to pipe up in the first place. I have been keeping my stance neutral between the two groups. I have not blocked anyone from either side (except the hate blog), and I have no hard feelings towards my friends, or my followers who are disagreeing with each other.

If you want me to apologise for being part of the document, I'm sorry but I can't. It's the same as saying "I'm sorry I talked about being harassed."

If you still feel like you're personally affected by my involvement in this, or you are a follower of mine getting harassed because of this document, please DM me and I'll try to help you out the best I can.

The blogs mentioned in the document have not been actively harassing me, and those who did take part in smearing my name I will not name, because I genuinely think they realised their mistake (unlike the hate blog) and understood that I have nothing to do with the gore anons nor do I believe they were a hoax.

[toringo]

Here is a slight update on the harassment situation:

I was made aware that the person sending me all sorts of unpleasant asks (from death threats, sui baiting etc to jabs at my personal life and relationships) is probably the same person who was sending similar messages to other artists in the MW fandom.

They're probably using a VPN, so blocking doesn't do much, but the writing pattern is too similar to ignore.

You don't have to worry about me. I will be fine, and thank you for your support, it helped a lot. I love you all /plat

[fairydares]

loook i get why the idea of riding the "anti/pro" fandom disk horse makes people gag a little in their mouth and try to opt out entirely, but here's why i went from feeling exactly the same way to taking a firm profiction stance. I've been meaning to make this post for a while.

~10 years ago, I posted a fic for the first time and it got its own harassment campaign. The fic wasn't even sexual, and wasn't going to be (it remains incomplete). It was accurately rated T on fanfiction.net. Anyone in the Fairy Tail fandom will understand this: I literally got harassed for writing a "Lucy leaves the guild" fic💀.

After many nice comments, someone left a pretty nasty one. Hurt, I messaged them back. They acted super attacked that I'd responded (lmao) and after we argued, threatened to "rip my shitty story apart in the comments section" if I responded again. I told them "go ahead lol."

They went ahead.

Now know that it was a relatively small harassment campaign, but at the time, it was devastating. Right around then, I wound up in the hospital. After I got out, I went to excitedly check my fic, and found several reviews saying things I wouldn't repeat to my worst enemy. I was suicide-baited more than once, told "thank fuck you finally abandoned this shitty story, dumb cunt," stuff like that.

There were several accounts involved, and I can't say for sure, but I suspect at least a couple different people were involved, though probably at least half of it was one person.

All the other comments were screeching about how I hadn't updated, mostly. "NO UPDAAATEE WHY DOES THIS ALWAYS HAPPENS TO MEEEE??!!!" was one that stood out after I'd been miserable in a hospital for an extended period of time.

Idk what people think is going on when FT fic authors write this trope, and frankly I don't give a fuck. Because while I was partly writing the story out of some young, cringe feminist rage, I also did genuinely have a real story I was compelled to tell. I was inspired by another, popular fic I loved which used the trope to talk about how trying to shoulder our burdens alone really just hurts both ourselves and everyone who cares about us.

My own story was ultimately going to have similar themes, with more focus on strength, what it means, and in what contexts earning and having it actually matters. In retrospect, no wonder I wound up in hot water, because at the time "Lucy vs. Strength vs. Misogyny" was the FT fandom's Designated Nonsensically Activist Debate™. But that's partly why i wanted to write about it; engaging with the fandom had gotten me thinking about it 🤷‍♂️

Not too long after that, FFNet oh-so-benevolently granted us the ability to delete comments from our own stories (they never took my reports seriously at all, afaik). I deleted all or most of the harassers' comments (may still be a one or two up, and i'm fairly sure there's a couple comments defending my fic from the harassment) without saving screenshots, which I really regret now. I was just so mortified and full of self-loathing about the whole thing that i wanted to forget it completely. Something that had brought me joy at a very lonely, vulnerable period of my life had turned so negative, and i couldn't even tell the people closest to me about it without being made fun of for writing anime fan fiction.

I didn't understand why this happened at the time, but--after a period of trying to forget/bid out of it all with a slight anti lean (a common approach I see people use, and one which I'm not proud of adopting)--I just had to figure out What the Fuck Even Happened There. And I'm telling you, after years of reflecting, wrestling with both sides, and educating myself, that this "status quo of harassment" culture which pervades fandom goes way deeper than you think and comes out of a way darker well than you probably realize. An astonishing amount of this is, quite literally, TERF shit and evangelical shit.

Trying to be in fandom and take a stance of, "Anti/Pro shit? Ew, I'm Not Touching that," is like swimming in a heavily polluted river and being like, "Poison? Cringe. Not me lol."

You might be lucky enough to be in a less-polluted part of the river (AKA a relatively non-toxic fandom, in which case good for you!)...but tbh this rhetoric and peer-signalling will still seep in.

I can't stress enough that pro-fiction, AKA "proship", is the normal, leftist-about-art-and-sex opinion. Pro-ship is against all the horrible things you're against; in fact, pro-ship isn't trivializing real trauma by equating it with fictional trauma, or trying to apply literal evangelical/radfem solutions--which are proven not to prevent or help. Profiction/proship is literally just saying, "Fiction is fiction, reality is reality, and the two don't have a 1:1 relationship. And historically, trying to censor just things we've decided are bad has done nothing but get LGBTQ+ and POCs censored. Therefore, depictions of illegal things shouldn't be censored." That's it. "Proshippers all ship problematic ships," is a brazen lie. Many of them share other fans' disgust for those ships, they just don't believe in censoring fic authors over it.

It is also taking a stand against harassment because--and I hope my own story has helped drive this home--as with all groups who adopt ingroup/outgroup thinking, antis are defined by their tactics, not actual stances on real, serious issues. What happened to me was absolutely a result of anti, "it's okay to 'bully out' anything I just don't like" mindset pervading fandom. In a way, this was the mindset's final form. They didn't even feel the need to cite a reason the trope was "bad" or "wrong"; it annoyed them, and they viewed their own feelings as a valid enough pathway for policing to go right ahead and do so.

In the interest of offering solutions instead of just bitching about problems, I might make a "how to know if you've bought into these types of views"-type post sometime. Also might come back to this and provide some sources/citation.

[kittenquasar]

Since I've started passing as a pretty woman (unless I open my mouth too much lol) I've had a few men treat me weird at the store.

Cut for me experiencing misogyny if you're interested

I'm not talking about like the cute half smiles they do when they think you're nice to look at, those I like. What im talking about are the usually older guys who'll make little comments when you don't, I guess give them attention?

Now I have audhd, learning how to be in a busy grocery store is a skill I had to learn. It's like driving, like a dance where as long as we all follow the steps everyone gets on their way without causing too much trouble for each other. Eye movement, personal space, how long waiting is appropriate before you ask to be let by, the little interactions when you accidentally bump into someone. This takes practice for some of us. This is why these men stand out so much to me:

These older men put up arbitrary rules for you to follow around them, they want you to thank them for letting you go past them (even when they're letting others by they look at only me and make the comment). When passing them they'll make a comment about how I didn't say that I was passing them(???) This is something I've just never experienced before looking like this.

Why are they so weird?? Like screw off guy I don't owe you shit. One of these days when I'm feeling confident i want to drop my voice and respond "sorry bro" it my deep tranny voice just to teach em a lesson. But you know.. Every cis woman I tell this to makes a pensive yep face like this is just a fact of life that sometimes a stranger is going to make you uncomfortable for no reason just for being a woman. I've heard about men being weird but like, I didn't get it until it happened to me. Yuck! And this'll happen again and more often as my voice gets better and I look less and less like a guy. This is real "welcome to being a woman" moment I guess lol

[alexandraisyes]

Quick Personal PSA For TSAMS Fandom

Because a bunch of unfriendly fucks in this fandom think it's so cute to spread misinformation about a person they don't know!

I'm not a fucking proshipper. I do not associate with the term proship or proshipper. I do not romanticize or fetishize dark topics.

I think that everyone can do whatever they want when it comes to fiction but that doesn't mean I support it or agree with it, I just recognize I can't control that and stay the fuck away from things that make me uncomfortable.

I have stated multiple times on this account that I don't agree with romanticizing or fetishizing dark topics. I'm a survivor of long term abuse -- sexually, physically, emotionally and mentally. I've been in and out of toxic relationships. I've been a victim of rape, CSEM, and incest. I don't support glorifying these topics in fiction.

However, I also don't agree with harassing people who do romanticize and fetishize these things. Because I don't agree with harassment. The only thing I can control is myself and my views and it's not my job to "police" the rest of the fandom.

Respect others by staying out of their circles. Respect yourself by not interacting with content you don't like. There's no need to harass others, spread misinformation, or any of those bad vibes.

Someone lied about me being a "proshipper" and I got kicked from a server I recently joined because no one bothers to fact check anymore. Lying about people hurts them. It hurts their reputation, and in my case my reputation is fucking important so I can afford to pay my bills.

Can people leave me the fuck alone for ONE FUCKING WEEK?!

LYING ABOUT ME IS NOT OKAY!!!

[enemywasp]

I can't believe of all the comments for me to get whole videos telling me to die and saying I belong in jail, it's one where I said my account is set to 18+ and its annoying that 14 year old kids can still find and try to follow me.

[corporatecoinings]

If you go and harass people that’s such a shitty to do

Till did not deserve harassment

Even with people we don’t agree with like radqueers or proshippers YOU DONT FUCKING HARASS THEM.

You wouldn’t like the same thing done to you so don’t fucking do it to others. What happened to treat others the way you want to be treated.

I don’t want to call people shitty just by one action but harassing others is truly a shitty thing to do, and if you support the harassment of Till or other beings you can unfollow and block us right fucking now, you disgust us. We do NOT stand for harassment and neither should others. Shame on all of you that support or do harassment. And if we in the past have harassed others with or without knowing we apologize for that too.

Harassment is not fucking okay.

Mogaiblr what have you become.

-Flowerhazard

[sunsetmountainlion]

Had a Guitarspear idea. It originally came to me for the Lyrebird AU but isn’t necessarily tied to that AU, and could go for both platonic and romantic.

Adam and Lute are on Earth, hanging out or on a date or something like that, and Adam runs into a store to grab something, leaving Lute outside alone for a few minutes. Some guy catcalls her, and she’s about to go at him when Adam leaves the store and drops a hand onto her shoulder, stopping her.

The guy apologizes to Adam, saying he didn’t realize she was taken and just being generally that brand of gross. Adam looks at Lute, sees how she’s not blinking and basically vibrating, and just slowly raises his hand with the single command of, “Get ‘em.”

Long story short Sera had to come down to bail Lute out of jail and that guy never harassed another girl again after he got out of the hospital.

[syscultureis]

(vent) TW for triggering topic mentions (i find it redundant to say "tw (word)" and then say that word in the text, its basically not even a warning, so just know triggering topics get mentioned (not described however)

sys culture + BPD is never being able to talk to other systems. we discovered ourselves at 13 and every server we joined was horrible. we've been stalked harassed a groomed in these communities. and when we finally find a decent community,we have to leave because a persecutor or symptom holder blew up on someone and apologizing will never be enough, so we just hide. youd think people would understand as it's quite literally a server based on MENTAL HEALTH CONDITIONS

we just want friends like us. friends where we can just use pluralkit and express ourselves without fearing a singlet will interrogate us, start using the PK bot when they shouldnt, or us being fakeclaimed for reasons that don't even correlate to how the disorder works. we just want friends who also have this condition we can relate to, not people parading having this condition and supporting endos, or just generally people who are very strict and even abusive.

.

[purlty23]

This is what saying you love fat people every day on tumblr gets you btw. Im not the victim, the fat people you and your supposed friends are saying awful things about are

[a-silly-bunny]

This night be be specific but if you were ever to get catcalled your F/O would do their best to control themself and just get you out of there, get you somewhere safe and calm you down

Or... Maybe they wouldn't control themself, maybe they'd make sure the bastard knows they don't even deserve to look at you

Your F/O will not let someone treat their entire world like some piece of meat

[alexandraisyes]

Ngl chat getting really tired about getting harassed in my inbox over someone who sexually harassed my friend.

“He’s so sad and depressed” I don’t give a fuck? He threatened to post revenge porn of my friend. I literally have the email. Get off your fucking high horse and read my words

I. Don’t. Care.

Fuck off and leave me and my friends alone no one gives 2 shits about him and idrgaf if this makes me sound like a bitch. Boo fucking hoo, cry about it.

This is explicitly addressed at you who keeps trying to tell me he killed himself when he regularly updates his ao3, including like an hour ago? Dumb bitch.