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channeling tumblr user asukiess today and thinking about emilie....but adrien's mom emilie. came back wrong, because surprise, surprise, the wish doesn't work the way gabriel thought it would. not everything can be under his control - and as usual, it falls to adrien to live with his mistakes.
sometimes, people catch glimpses of a woman through the windows of the agreste mansion. perhaps she would be beautiful, in another life - but in this one, there are dark rings around her eyes. her movements are sluggish, ashen skin and pale lips. illness, most likely, something that runs in the family. but then, why does the son look perfectly fine?
speaking of the son, he's been spotted out and about more often than ever lately. the butcher, in particular, is very familiar with him. nice kid. always polite. insists on tipping, even when he purchases what are objectively the worst cuts of meat.
sure you don't want something better? the butcher asks. flanchet? bavette? filet?
no, the kid says with a smile. that's okay. my mother isn't picky.
devoted boy, to be out shopping for his mother like this.
the woman who works at the hardware store, too, knows the agreste boy quite well. he stops in almost every week, stepping up to the counter with arms full of heavy ropes and chains.
are these...the strongest you have? he asks as she's ringing him up.
should be, she replies. whaddya need 'em for?
...they're for my mother, the kid says after a moment.
weird, but she works in a place like this, and she's seen far stranger things before. she's not one to judge.
so then the boy goes, raw meat in one hand and chains in another. all for his mother.
what a good son, they think, to be taking care of her like this. to be bringing her whatever she needs, whatever she asks for. how devoted. if only their own children were more like that.
if only they were more like emilie agreste, to have a son like that.
#nem's ideas#miraculous ladybug#emilie agreste#adrien agreste#ml#nemali writes#anyway i was rereading this one jjba fic i loved back in the day#gothic horror and frankenstein and general creepiness#and yea you know what#put that agreste boy in a situation#see how much he loves his mother#see if she loves him enough to keep her teeth in her mouth every time he comes closer
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rewatching origins(well the whole show now that i have access to it again) and omg. omg omg it’s so easy to forget that marinette doesn’t have some celebrity crush on adrien, her stalking tendencies are excruciatingly exaggerated for the sake of “comedy”. but she got a crush on him after he apologized for a misunderstanding, gave her his umbrella, and laughed. and she loved his laugh. ugh what a wonderful scene it almost makes me love adrienette.
#too bad adrien’s personality gets stripped away as the show goes on#and that astruc thinks creepy illegal stalking is funny#miraculous ladybug#mlb#marinette dupain cheng#adrien agreste#adrienette
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Okay, okay, hear me out:
Spy x Family AU, except Marinette is Loid & Adrien is Yor.
Marinette & Loid both have this alternate self that is very calculative & has the urge to plan out every possible outcome of a situation so they're not caught off guard. Not to mention that both of them have this very strong sense of justice and, each in their own way, are trying to make the world around them a better & safer place. However, both of them also have this other side that is gentle and kind and, essentially, a softy (though this shows more in Marinette bc, well, she hasn't been through the things Loid has been).
Then we have Adrien, who, like Yor, is outwardly sweet & cheerful and doesn't have a clue what to do with Life (TM). But he also has a dark & deadly side, which makes him absolutely consider dirtying his hands if he thought he was protecting the ppl he loves (*cough* derrision *cough*). I can totally see him become an assassin if it was the only thing he could do to protect his loved ones & bring food to the table, esp if he was taught to do that from a young age.
Also, some of my other headcanons for this AU (and pls beware of possible spoilers for sxf if u aren't caught up or want to watch):
- Emma would be Anya, obv, and like Anya, she has telepathic powers and can read her parents' minds. (Side note: I was considering making Emma a creation of the peacock miraculous & for that to be the reason she has her telepathy powers, but then I realized the miraculous existing in this AU might not make much sense, so I'm putting it on the backburner. If anybody wants to explore that, though, be my guest!)
- The plushy u see in Emma's hands in my drawing is Tikki, which is the equivalent of Mr. Chimera in the anime (however, alternatively, The Handler could be Tikki & in turn, The Shopkeeper could be Plagg. But going with my initial idea...)
- The cat in the picture, then, would be Plagg, who is the equivalent of Bond. However, unlike Bond, Plagg is a little shit & he knows it & therefore gives Marinette a lot of grief. But he's very cute when he wants to be, and Emma is very set on keeping him, so Marinette resorts to silent psychological warfare with him. Surprisingly, Plagg is pretty chill when it comes to Adrien to everyone's surprise.
- Just like Bond, Plagg also has psychic powers. However, I can just see him hissing in annoyance everytime a vision pops up. :D
- Adrien is secretly an assassin who exterminates traitors with his special dagger(s) that he calls 'Cataclysm'.
- Marinette is a spy who is tasked with getting close to her target, Chloe Bourgeois. She has a customized gun that she prefers to use that she calls her 'lucky charm'.
- Also, the same as the anime, Marinette's agent name is 'Ladybug' & Adrien's is 'Chat Noir'.
- Chloe is Marinette's target (I know Desmond & Gabriel are crazy similar, but I think it'd be pretty weird to have Gabe & Adrien in the same universe & for them to not be related).
- Chloe has 2 children: a twin son & daughter who r attending the same prestigious school. The daughter (which I haven't chosen a name for) is the equivalent of Becky & the son (which I also don't know the name of) is the equivalent of Damian.
- Chloe's daughter lives with her father (who I imagine is Luka bc it's a guilty ship of mine, but eh), but she also pays for her child support and education, so her daughter was raised like a princess and therefore has the same princess tendencies as Becky.
- Chloe's son is still pretty much the same as Damian, so not much to add there. (Yes, exactly like Damian. If you know, you know :) )
- Lastly, I will leave you with this out of pocket notion: Felix as Yuri and Kagami as Fiona (and yes, I very much ship them, even in this AU :) )
Here are the individual characters separately as a treat for making it till here!
#yes i chose anya's creepy grin as reference for emma what else was i supposed to use? ;)#i'm so excited for this au :)#anyone who wants to jump on the wagon hop on#spy x family#spy x family au#ml fanart#miraculous#ml#miraculous ladybug#ladybug#chat noir#adrien agreste#marinette dupain cheng#love square#ladynoir#adrienette#ladrien#marichat#Tikki#Plagg#emma agreste#chloe bourgeois#luka couffaine#felix graham de vanily#kagami tsurugi
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Day by day, I still have a first-class room in the Marinette hate train. Adrian better leave her.
🕯️Manifesting🕯️
#miraculous ladybug#marinette dupain cheng#mlb marinette#adrien agreste#she's a stalker and not in the iconic and romanticised 'let girls be creepy' sense.#missing the old days where I'd watch YouTube music videos shipping them with amazing art and seeing them as adults with three children#and hamster Marinette always wanted.#idgaf it's a kid's show. Kids deserve content with common sense that they'll look back on and create essays as adults.#i want to see them experience my joy when a kid's show was amazing and I'm realising it in the current moment.#a lot of people think children are dumb to such a genuinely pathetic point.#*kids' show. I don't feel like changing it.#*the hamster
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Miraculous Ladybug - Miraculous Menaces AU: Parentless Guidance Part 2
Miraculous Menaces AU
Chapter Summary:
Marinette has a bad time with Dutch. Adrien has a bad time with Darcy. Alya is just vibing.
An AU where Chat becomes Hawkmoth's partner in crime. At first, Adrien thought that the day he found out that his father was the supervillain terrorizing the people of Paris was the worst day of his life, but in retrospect, it might have been the one change needed to save his family. Because it was also the day that both of them realized that, when they don't need to be Adrien and Gabriel Agreste, they're both fucking goobers. Follow the adventures of Hawkmoth, Chat Noir, and their reluctant assistant who doesn't get paid enough, Nathalie, as they try to navigate life as a supervillain family. And pray for Ladybug's sanity as she suffers their antics.
#fanfiction#miraculous ladybug#miraculous ladybug fanfiction#archive of our own#adrien agreste#gabriel agreste#marinette dupain cheng#adrienette#chat noir#hawkmoth#ladybug#ladybug and chat noir#tales of ladybug and cat noir#ml ladybug#marichat#alya cesaire#nathalie sancoeur#gabenath#mayura#miraculousmenacesau#creepy vibes#stranger danger#adrien x marinette#teenage rebellion
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My issue with derision and how it deals with Marinette’s problematic behaviour.
Disclaimer before I make this post that I’m not an avid miraculous fan, so if I get things wrong feel free to correct me.
I used to watch it a lot as a kid but I’m not so into it now. The reason I’m making this post is because recently my little sister came over to visit me and she loves the series half to death. I decided to sit down and watch it with her just for fun, and long story short my ADHD hyper fixation kicked in and I ended up binging 2 whole seasons.
And OML the only thing that did was remind me why I stopped watching the show in the first place
As a kid I never liked Marinette’s character. That was more of a me problem though since back in season 1 there wasn’t really too much wrong with her, I was just having my whole ‘I hate girly things phase’ so I didn’t like her.
However When season 3 came out she was firmly cemented as my least favourite character. I didn’t like her weird, creepy behaviour as well as the fact that the writers didn’t really give her any flaws, or at least none that really effected the plot.
I think the thing that made me the angriest was the fact that no one seemed to address it. The writers didn’t seem to care, everyone in the show applauded and even encouraged her behaviour and everyone in the fandom seemed to love Adrienette. I couldn’t find anyone mentioning the fact that the girl literally broke into his house and it pissed me off to no end.
As it turns out though I wasn’t the only one offset by her behaviour as in one of the recent episodes ‘Derision’ the writers finally decided to address the huge distaste with Marinette’s actions.
Of course this show being what it is means that Marinette can’t have a single flaw, so instead of doing what I thought was the logical thing and having an episode where the staking is seen and addressed as a bad thing and Marinette takes measures to fix and develop herself the writers decide to just excuse it all by saying she was traumatised.
I hated the way they dealt with this.
First of all the writing was just lazy.
Her being suddenly traumatised by Kim despite having absolutely no issues with him anywhere else in the show? I thought that was stupid and not well thought out since this whole bit is just the writes slapping a bandaid solution on fans complaints. Also I’m vaguely certain that Kim has a canonical fear of spiders so why is he using them to prank Marinette of all people with?
Second of all it doesn’t do a good job of explaining why she was a stalker.
In the episode she says that it was because Kim broke her trust so she now refuses to get into a relationship with someone without knowing everything about them.
This is supposed to explain her weird behaviour towards Adrien but it doesn’t simply because this is shown to only be a problem with him.
It’s not like we catch her breaking into Luka’s house on multiple occasions so she can go through his things and sniff his pillow. Nor does she seem to care about finding out anything and everything about Cat Noir. I’m fine with this being the case when she’s ladybug since she doesn’t really show any romantic appeal towards him but as Marinette?
The show establishes that she has at minimum a crush on him and that’s all it took for her to start going after Adrien, and maybe you could say that she doesn’t have the means to stalk Cat Noir since she’s a civilian but we’ve seen repeatedly that she’s not above abusing her own superpowers to do so with Adrien.
Even the argument that she wants to protect secret identities is useless when you watch Ephemeral and see that she was completely on board with manipulating Cat Noir so she could expose his identity to a person without his consent.
I think the worst part for me however, is the fact that I could look past all the lazy writing and the pathetic excuses used to justify her actions if she’d done the bare minimum by apologising to Adrien.
Admitting to him what she’d done and telling him she was sorry. I would’ve liked it if the writers didn’t have Adrien forgive her (at least not right away) but I know they don’t have the capacity to have Marinette be genuinely in the wrong for anything so I would have settled for just an apology instead.
But they can’t even do that! All that happens is that Marinette promises to herself that she won’t do it anymore and as usual Adrien is left none the wiser.
Even though I’ve only recently gotten back into the show this episode along with Kuro Neko and the season 5 finale have shown me that I genuinely can’t ship Adrienette in good conscience anymore.
Marinette just lies to him about too much important stuff. It’s so unfair to him that he’s constantly kept out of the loop about things in his life that directly involve him and the people who do this face absolutely no consequences.
Heck even Gabriel got his happily ever after by bringing his wife back meanwhile Adrien is living a complete lie as the people he cares about reassure him that everything’s fine when it really, really isn’t.
I’ve seen people act like this episode somehow provides a good excuse to Marinette’s actions but barely anything is done in terms of character development so I have to disagree with them.
Anyway thanks for comin to my tedtalk if you want to argue with me in the comments please be respectful about it.
#miraculous fandom#miraculous critical#marinette dupen chang#mlb adrien#cat noir#Derision#kuro neko#I can’t even call this Marinette salt#it’s clearly a problem with the writers since they can’t seem to handle giving her flaws#stalking#Marinette is creepy#marinette salt#I’m tagging it anyway just incase
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“With my Marinette lucky charm!” What’s with that face? You don’t have to be a creep!
#adrien agreste#marinette dupain cheng#cat noir#ladybug#ladynoir#adrienette#marichat#plagg#tikki#lucky charm#creepy#creep#ummm#just a friend#miraculous#miraculous ladybug
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Me: I'm going to become a better person 🤗
Also me when I see someone mischaracterize and then hate on my favorite character:
#STOP MAKING UP REASONS TO HATE MARINETTE!!!!#SHE ISN'T A MARY-SUE!! SHE ISN'T A STALKER!! SHE ISN'T A BAD PERSON!!! SHE ISN'T AN ABUSER!!#SHE ISN'T RACIST!!! SHE ISN'T A PICK-ME!!! SHE ISN'T SEXIST!! SHE ISN'T UNFORGIVING!!!#SHE GAVE CHLOÉ MULTIPLE CHANCES AND CONTINUES TO GIVE HER CHANCES TO BE BETTER!!!#SHE GAVE LILA MULTIPLE CHANCES TO BE BETTER AND FELT FUCKING AWFUL FOR INSULTING HER AT THE FOUNTAIN!!!#SHE FORGAVE KIM FOR HIS BULLYING AND WAS ABLE TO KEEP THEIR FRIENDSHIP STRONG!!!#HER BEING ANGRY ABOUT BEING PUBLICLY SHIPPED WITH HER COWORKER MAKES SENSE!!!#HER BEING LOVED BY HER FRIENDS AND FAMILY MAKES SENSE!!!#HER HAVING LOTS OF LOVE INTERESTS MAKES SENSE WHEN YOU REMEMBER THAT SHE IS NICE PRETTY AND CARING!!!!#SHE APOLOGIZED AND MADE UP WITH KAGAMI AND NOW THEY ARE BEST FRIENDS!!!!#SHE WATCHES FHE FUCKING WORLD END BECAUSE OF HER LOVE FOR ADRIEN OF FUCKING COURSE SHE'S SCARED TO CONFESS TO HIM!!#OF FUCKING COURSE SHE'S SCARED TO TELL CHAT NOIR ANYTHING!!!#SHE WAS LITERALLY MANIPULATED BY THE MAIN FUCKING ANTAGONIST TO LIE TO THE WORLD ABOUT HIM!!!#MARINETTE DESERVES BETTER!!!!!#YOU MADE THAT SHIT UP ABOUT HER BECAUSE YOU NEED SOMETHING TO HATE SO BADLY!!#AND ALSO THAT CREEPY PICTURE OF HER THAT PEOPLE USE IN THEIR THUMBNAILS TO SHOW HOW CREEPY SHE IS 1.#2.IS FROM GHE EPISODE WHERE JAGGED STONE ASKS HER TO MAKE A ALBUM ART FOR HIM AND IT STRESSES HER THE FUCK OUT!!#SHE'S NOT DOING ANYTHING BAD IN THAT EPISODE!!! STOP FUCKING USING THAT GOD DAMN IMAGE AND SLANDERING HER!!!
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Stop spying on teenagers, dude!
#mr creepy#gabriel agreste's a+ parenting#gabriel agreste#ml gabriel#adrinette#adrienette#ml adoration#ml fandom#ml spoilers#ml s5 spoilers#ml s5#ml adrien#ml marinette
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#art#artist#artwork#yillowmimez#Adrien (Me)#dollette#softette#dollcore#doll#coquette#morute#yami kawaii#yumekawaii#cute art#dark kawaii#meet the artist#small artist#creepy art#creepy cute#pastel#pastel goth#pastelcore#goth#gothic#pastel goth art#demon girl#monster girl#meet the creator
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What do you think of salt fics?
I used to read them a lot (Adrien, Alya, Lila, and Bustier to be specific, that influence can be seen on the first version of MD where there was a lot of salt). They're fine, some of them take it too far, like making Alya and the class be very aggressive, I read one salt fic where they literally murdered Marinette. But that is fine I guess. If I don't like stuff I just stop reading it, everyone likes something different (it also depends on what you see as salt). I just don't like when they completely demonize the characters.
#ask#miraculous ladybug#i think i got to salt when i was like 11#that was even before i knew that salt existed#i just saw a fic on wattpad where adrien was a creepy villain and i thought it was cool#i dont think that even the author knew about salt#i guess i just always drew to adrien salt
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hello. sorry i disappeared again i think this is just who i am now. finally living my dreams of being a cryptid
i wrote like a chapter and a half of a fuckign ladybug fic today. it is cringe but i am free. who is interested (it's not gonna follow canon very closely at all because i do not care it is for my enjoyment)
#i'm fine i just have depression and chronic issues and i have decided to stop forcing myself to post when i am not well#disappearances are probably just part of my brand at this point#me coming back from the dead once again#miraculous ladybug#the oc is named raven romero renato he's so bbygirl#he's got anxiety but he's also an adrenaline junkie which makes a terrible terrible combination.#of course he's given a miraculous and this just makes it so much worse#he's a coyote btw#and like a model n shit but who cares about that. show me this man vigilante-ing#(i am making them actual vigilantes not just responding to akuma attacks)#(i'm also aging them up because... 14 year old superheroes.......... insert throwing up emoji)#he also has trauma ofc hes my oc but it's also kind of a crackfic#if you couldn't tell his love interest is adrien#and maybe a little luka but idk. they might just be besties instead#marinette will be severely less creepy and things will overall be changed to fit my headcanons. cope.
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the pros and cons of rewatching s5 in preparation of tonight:
pros: I love watching ml
cons: having to watch Illusion
#pros: core four#cons: gabe's emotional abuse in that episode is..... woof#it's a creepy devastating episode#and when adrien's watching what he thinks?? is his dad having some sort of health attack??? ohhh my god#it fucks me up ngl#miraculous ladybug
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the reason mari and adrien never share their identities ( until after the hawk moth ordeal ) despite never seemingly told they're not allowed to... is because they're both still hiding to a degree. they both find a sense of freedom in themselves when they have on the masks, and i think the idea of taking them off is scary. marinette's fear is of losing her growing confidence... and of being seen as a nobody. ladybug is strong, almost cocky. she saves the world, she's tough and doesn't hesitate... but marinette is still figuring things out, still trying to place herself in the world. and when she finally thinks she has it together and gets herself to ask adrien to the ball, she's shot down. she got too focused on believing that that moment would define her, now she has to realize she needs to define herself. she has to evaluate her feelings on adrien, on cat noir, and on her dreams... because she was hinging was too much on a love story that didn't come true. so much so that she might have pushed away someone who did love her and that she was feeling herself drawn to in return... and realizing adrien and cat are the same person actually causes her to see her hyperfixation was taking away from her personal growth and from truly seeing the person she was in love with... what he needed and wanted. because adrien was hiding more so than her. marinette grew in her personal life from being ladybug but we don't really see adrien adapt cat noir into his persona life too much. if anything, he actually separates himself between the two more and more as the story goes on. adrien struggles with believing he can be happy again as himself and uses cat as his way to unleash from being the boy the world expects of him. so neither of them tell because they don't want to break their own charades and chances. and it's for the best, because marinette seeing adrien/cat broken at the sight of his father helps keep her from falling for cat seemingly only because he is adrien. she realizes the love she has for who he actually is. a boy just trying to figure himself out just as she was trying to learn about herself. and so when she confesses, adrien has not just a fangirl in love with him, he has marinette being fully whole, which would be a far better support system than if they had found out earlier.
#movie mari may not be as obsessive and creepy as the show#but she still has a twinge of that weirdness that#would have made them Not Good if they had learned sooner#the vulnerability of adrien facing his dad was#important for mari to see#&&. marinette ( headcanon )
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I'm usually against female rivalry but in Lila's case I make an exception.
Me the second Lila popped up in the new trailer
#mlb s5 spoilers#that’s new trailer was wild so much was going on#the horror on Maris face when Lila piped outer her creepy alexa ring had me laughing#miraculous ladybug#marinette dupain cheng#ml#adrien agreste#miraculous tales of ladybug and cat noir
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You Saw That Right #shorts #zepeto #marinette #adrienagreste #miraculous
I know I saw something move, right?
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