#countryhumans seychelles

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Cool flags you have there!

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More design headshots.

[petitvivi]

[eccentrickleptomaniac]

her dad was a communist

[beautiifulprincessdisorder]

welcome to my blog!

i still don't know how to set these out sorry guys🙏

my name is ivan, i use he/him but at the end of the day i dont really care how you refer to me, i am genderfluid and aromantic asexual. i am autistic, and i have adhd and bpd. im also hungarian! 🇭🇺

my special interest is hetalia, but i also have other interests which include:

the world wars, history, countries, tanks, countryballs/countryhumans, linguistics, vexillology, bandori, touhou, drawing, rammstein, mitski, iron maiden (my favourite music artists atm) + more that i probably forgot!

i am openly proship and profiction, aswell as comship, darkship, prokink and propara (but anticontact!) i am also anti radqueer. i dont actually care who interacts with me, i have no dni, and i block freely if i dont like you.

im cramming all of my proship, selfship, art, etc onto here as i don't feel like making sideblogs atm, and i also dont have any tags to sort my posts out (my profile is a mess, i know😅)

i am a selfshipper, and i am okay(? not extremely keen on it but ill survive) with sharing my f/o(s)

i have multiple f/os, but my main one of all time is germany from hetalia, i love him🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️ i only ever really post about him, sorry 😅

but, some other f/os include:

- portugal (hetalia) : romantic f/o

- romano (hetalia) : familial/romantic f/o

- hungary (hetalia) : familial f/o

- seychelles (hetalia) : platonic f/o

+ more, if i ever make a full list ill link it here !

[ask-the-country-boys]

Country: Madagascar

Name: Amara Soa

Age: 20

Gender: female

Facts

-tries to make the best out of most situations

-enjoys nature

-a very hard worker

-can withstand any sort of hot weather

-very proud of the plants and animals as most are only found there an nowhere else

-works with lemur rehabilitation

- enjoys poetry

-not a big fan of farm work as it often destroys things

-is mixed

Relationships

Portugal - on civil agreements in present day

France - adoptive mother, they no longer talk too much mostly because of terrible things that happened in the past (Madagascar does not wish to forgive France, as she should, fuck colonization)

Seychelles - good friends

Philippines - the two share their love for food

Indonesia - they share praise over their similar basket making

[iichiigoo]

Some more doodles

[secreterces-charlie]

Okay so let’s confirm something.

I saw this on Facebook:

Ok, but that’s from 2016, and only in Europe, right. So who’s the beer drinking champion now?

Google?

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/which-country-drinks-the-most-beer.html

Uh huh...

Well, well, well...

I have no other choice.

BOOM THIS TOOK TWO HOURS but M Y G O D. It was worth it. It was definitely worth it!

[incorrect-countryhumans]

seychelles: life is hard for me, yknow?

seychelles: *takes out cigarette*

cape verde: i didnt know you smoked.

seychelles: i don't,

seychelles: *eats cigarette whole*

[stuffwriter-needs-sleep]

So BFF Namibia and Seychelles headcanons!

Namibia calls Seychelles “Shells” or “Shelly” while Seychelles calls Namibia “Nami”

Nami is very protective, Shells is the shy and peaceful one

And they’re frickin best friends and they need more fanart

Also Cuba is communist and Namibia judges him hard and will probably sabotage any attempts at strengthening his relationships with Seychelles

[kingk8art]

hetalia rant

pls ignore how I won't use any proper punctuation or capitalization because my arms and fingers all hurt from volleyball :( Edit: My arm’s are better now so I’m actually using proper capitalization and punctuation (special thanks to my friends for proofreading and also Google autocorrect.) Special thanks to my friend for helping me out with writing this.

so i'm one of those people who joined the hetalia fandom like REALLY late, having first watched the anime in like 2017 or 18. Nevertheless, when I heard about how the anime was coming back in 2021 I was really excited!! I’ve been reading world stars lately but there’s just something in the hetalia anime that made me love it so much. the voice acting and how it’s animated and everything, it really brings the characters to life! out of curiosity I searched up hetalia on twitter. keep in mind that i’m pretty new to the fandom so i never really got to see the shipping wars, or really any toxic part of the fandom, since i wasn’t there when hetalia was at its peak.

What i saw was really different from what i expected to see. I kinda expected twitter threads hyping up the new season, or things like that but most of ones I found in the top section were hate comments about hetalia, and things about why it shouldn’t come back. I was reading these and I was like, wait why? Some of them actually made sense, and the others had flawed logic. Here are my rants on why hetalia ISN’T anti-Semitic or problematic (as of now).

Misconceptions About Hetalia

1. Hetalia is About Nazi Germany or the Holocaust

If you’ve actually watched the show/read the manga, it’s quite obvious that although some of the events take place during WW2, it never mentions Hitler, Nazis, the Holocaust, or anything like that. and there’s a good reason for it. In the first place, hetalia isn’t meant to be a serious comic. The manga only focuses on subjects like funny things that happened to historical figures/occurrences during a war, weird inventions; generally those kinds of things. It focuses on the cultural differences between countries, or wholesome moments in history (such as when two enemies stopped fighting on Christmas day to play soccer.) Hetalia itself is antiwar. Consider the main character himself: he absolutely hates fighting. I don’t see how hetalia can be anti-Semitic or pro-war at all. But what I will say is fucked up are those certain cosplayers that did the Nazi salute, posed in front of a Holocaust memorial, etc. But I can still guarantee that the MAJORITY of the fandom is not like this. Every single fandom has its bad apples, some more than others. It’s not right to generalize the entire fandom as anti-Semitic, racist, disrespectful shits.

Do people realize that Germany’s character in Hetalia isn’t Nazi Germany?  In the first place the Holocaust wouldn’t be Germany’s responsibility — the depictions of these characters are meant to portray the people as a whole, not their systems of law or government. It’s stated in the series that nations MUST obey orders from their “boss” (which probably refers to the country’s ruler, president, prime minister, or other leaders at the time. Nations can’t choose what their superiors do, or what those under that control do. Saying Germany is humanized Nazi Germany is like putting that label on all German people without considering factors like time period or representation. Hetalia characters are a mere representation of each country’s people, nothing else.

How does mentioning WW2 in a comedy make it offensive? There are PLENTY of movies, novels, and other kinds of media that take place in WW2 and yet are in the comedy genre. Ever watched Jojo Rabbit? If you thought Hetalia was offensive, have you ever watched South Park or looked at CountryHumans? I do get why some people dislike Hetalia, but why does it receive so much hate for something that was never in the series (or generally speaking, for the wrong reasons)? It may have flaws, but there’s a strong definition to what those flaws actually are. It doesn’t revolve around antisemitism or Nazism. 

2. Hetalia is Racist and Stereotypes People

Now this is a pretty controversial topic. Being a comedy about personified countries, stereotypes are really something that HAS to be used at some point to make the characters funny. But does that automatically make it racist? No. I saw this on a YouTube video comment section somewhere, but stereotyping (generalizing) that all stereotypes are ‘bad’ (or have negative connotations/associations) is literally stereotyping. Not all of the stereotypes are bad. Like the way Britain acts like a gentleman or likes drinking tea, which in a way, is a British stereotype. That’s not a bad thing, just funny to see in the show — played for comedy purposes, and not necessarily offensive.

Although Hetalia characters are sometimes influenced by stereotypes that revolve around the actual countries and represent the people in general, they DO NOT always represent what those country’s people are actually like. Also, I’m pretty sure the point of comedy about personified countries is to use some of those generalizations. Specifically, stereotypes that the Japanese have about foreigners. France is portrayed as a flirty man because in Japan France is known for being a “romantic country.” But that doesn’t mean that they think all French people are like that — it’s just a lighthearted joke. And now, Hetalia characters have grown to be more of their own character rather than simply a humanized country at its base. Despite being a personification, they’re like their own person, not just used to depict stereotypes. Just because a character has a certain personality trait doesn’t mean Hima believes that everyone from that country has the same trait. It’s not meant to be racist, and isn’t. 

What I Think Was/Is Problematic

As much as I love this show, there were DEFINITELY some problematic things that people tend to ignore.

1. Korea Controversy

As a Korean American, I have to say that I was quite disappointed when I learned about how Hima portrayed Korea in the manga. I won’t go that deep into this one since it’s not that relevant to what I'm talking about now, but it was definitely a HUGE problem and I’m glad that he was removed from the series.

2. Iron Cross on Germany

The iron cross that Germany wears in Hetalia (in every time period) is a military decoration that was used since the King of Prussia until the time period of Nazi Germany in WW2. Today, it’s considered a hate symbol, similar to and alongside the swastika. To be fair, it wasn’t just a decoration used purely for the Nazis, unlike several other examples of Nazi symbols and memorabilia, so I suppose it could be up to each person to judge whether it should pass or not, despite the surrounding circumstances — it isn’t up to me as part of the fanbase. But personally, I think it should have been removed/not used in the first place. I mean, it wasn’t that necessary, seeing all of the military uniforms drawn in Hetalia were simplified anyways. Perhaps it would be much less problematic if Hima didn’t draw the iron cross, and the same goes for the other presented issues.

3. Japanese Imperialism

The way Hima portrays Japanese Imperialism was pretty offensive in my opinion. An instance is the presentation of the Japanese invasion of Korea. It wasn’t just like how the colonies were under Great Britain’s rule. It limited much more of Koreans’ rights and was much more gruesome. I don’t know about anyone else and can’t speak for each individual, but as a Korean, portraying all of this as Japan merely patting Korea on the  head is fucked up. This ties to the controversy of Korea’s character. From what I’ve seen, Hetalia is pretty close to a rightist (in Japan, not the US) series. I won’t dive too deep into that, but rightist — or in Korean, 우익 — animes are animes that glorify their country’s past/country, or  use content to make fun of or criticize other nations. Actually, it’s probably much more complicated than that, but as of now I don’t know much about it. It mostly ties to the tension between Koreans and the Japanese, so if you’re not either, there’s not really much to worry about. But (maybe because I’m Korean) I found it weird that the manga seems to give every single character a bad/negative characteristic except Japan. I guess it’s only natural, since the creator is Japanese. But then again, France was basically drawn as a rapist/pedophile, but I have never seen a French person complain about it. Or maybe they just completely avoid Hetalia? If anyone knows about it, I would be glad to listen. Perhaps it’s just a bias that I have as a Korean. It could also be a cultural difference too, since we tend to be very patriotic.

4. The Title: Axis Powers

Although the main character is Italy, and the story revolved (emphasis on the past tense) around the 3 countries that were part of the Axis, Hima should have been more considerate with the title of the show, thinking about what the Axis Powers actually did during WW2. Just “Hetalia” would have been fine. But it also should be considered that when Hima started drawing the manga, he did not expect it to become a long-term thing or for it to blow up so much. Thankfully, only the first two seasons of the anime were titled as Hetalia: Axis Powers, and later seasons were titled more acceptable things, like World Stars (manga) or The Beautiful World.

5. Seychelles

Personally I don’t find a problem with there not being that many African/South American countries in the show. Africa’s country borders (and all of that related material) were very different from what they are today, and it would be really fucking hard for Hima to keep track of all of those while still writing good characters. And unlike Europe, Africa’s history was not transcribed much, and is a lot less-known. The problem with Seychelles was her skin color, which wasn’t accurate. But that’s since been fixed.

Is Hetalia Really Problematic?

My most straightforward answer for this question would be no, it is not problematic as of now. Something I realized while listing all of the aspects of Hetalia that I personally thought were wrong to put in was that most of them don’t exist anymore. Besides Germany’s iron cross, all of them were removed from the show. Korea was banned from the anime, and he no longer appears in any of the manga strips. The manga strays further and further away from topics like Japanese Imperialism or WW2. Most of the time in the manga, countries do not wear their military uniforms anymore, but stick to more casual clothes. The characters stray further away from stereotypes that Hima used to use as a comedic effect when he first started drawing. My point is: Hima learned his mistakes. Which only makes sense, considering all of the criticism he probably received when the series first started. I think that’s a good thing. Now back to what I was ranting about earlier. I don’t get why people are saying Hetalia shouldn’t come back! The new season is most likely going to be based off the most recent Hetalia manga series, which is Hetalia World Stars. If you’ve ACTUALLY READ THE MANGA AND DIDN’T JUDGE THE ENTIRETY OF HETALIA BASED ON ITS FIRST FEW SEASONS, you would know what World Stars is about. It’s about all sorts of things. My personal favorite strips are the ones about ancient Rome! It’s not just drawn to give readers a laugh but it actually teaches you some history. Other than Rome, the manga is also about the trends of clothes in certain countries/time periods, industrial revolutions, or just the interactions between the characters in general. I really don’t see how animating these would be harmful at all. The subjects don’t revolve around what a lot of opposers say/negatively connotate the series with. If you think bringing Hetalia back is a terrible thing to do because the fandom would return and start doing toxic/weird things, I really don’t know how to respond to that. The fandom already died out around the time the last season was released. Now newer fans will come around, and the former fans would return (hopefully) matured up. It's already been 5 years since the last Hetalia season aired, after all. And like I said earlier, toxic fans never represent the entire fandom. If you really hate the fandom that much, I recommend not getting involved at all.

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To me the countryhumans is more toxic them hetalia. To me there are problems with hetalia in the beginning like with south Korea. Also whitewashing Seychelles and France pervertness but only lucky that France thing was toned down and Seychelles has dark skin.

Yeah, those are all good examples of actual issues in the canon. In the anime at least, Turkey and Egypt were also very whitewashed in the early seasons. Many people within the fandom will acknowledge that Hetalia canon has some problematic aspects, but uninformed antis act as if people can’t consume canons critically. And the post I saw was bashing Hetalia only for what people believed it was, not what it actually was.

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some of the takes on hetalia being super problematic and cancelled are so stretched and I wouldn’t understand why if not for the fact that they tend to come from people who’ve never watched the show or anything thus kinda judging what it is based on interpretation of other people’s ramblings and takes about it. You always hear the whole “well hetalia may not have turned people into nazis but there were still kids at My middle school who would joke about wanting Germany to have won the war because they like the character-“ thing and that’s just. Well first of all when ur only account there is middle schoolers I hate to break it to you but you could name just about any piece of media and middle schoolers (or others, but that demographic’s just best at it) have taken it in a completely ridiculous direction, often completely so far spiraled that it’s alien to the source material. Second of all; anything having to do with wanting Germany to have won the war or something, or really anything to do with nazism, is far fetched from the show and what it portrays. Germany, as a character, represents the country at large and not just the nazi party or something (if you want some bullshit to call out on that go look at countryhumans where they have a character for the third reich)- thus he’s not going to advocate for the horrid actions of the party in power- hes simply pushed by the tides by what’s going on around him and whoever’s in power and he doesn’t have a choice in the matter no matter how much he doesn’t like it. Like much of the German people at the time- under a fascist regime there isn’t much the general public could do about the situation due to the nature of fascism as well as the brainwashing that comes with it. To narrow him as a character, and thus Germany as a country, down to solely nazis would be an indecent take in itseIf-and on top of that to do so would make any kind of comedy unprecedented and morbid.

I actually think the show does a decent job at making fun of the political banter and generally harmless stereotypes (canada is often forgotten about, americans are loud and over the top, japan is excessively polite in comparison to the others, etc.) while avoiding even touching any atrocities and god forbid satirizing them. It’s kind of like if you were to make a show talking about fun facts from WW2 and history in general- where, of course in these eras there are horrible things happening, but the point of the “fun” facts are to point out bits of trivia, bizarre ideas and events people may not know about, and a way to give a bit of historical information without making light of things that shouldn’t be watered down in such a format.

I’m also not going to say it’s flawless or something- that would be blatantly ignorant. There are insensitivities, there are biased representations, but not enough to alter the show’s intentions nor label it made with ill intent. It’s problems, to me, don’t lie in the area of “promoting nazism” or anything similar (because it doesn’t- there’s not a single time germany even really mentions the holocaust because that would be fucking awful to do in a comedic environment and no I am not counting any improvised, unprecedented jokes made by any of the dub cast)- the problems with the show are more similar to what you see in a lot of anime/manga as a whole; lack of diversity/representation, whitewashing of certain countries (such as Seychelles, though he’s seen this and improved her appearance, or very mixing-pot countries such as America), and a handful more- but none are the level of abhorrent as claiming it promotes nazism or jokes about the horrors of the holocaust or war crimes done by germany or japan. It’s a weird anime with a risky subject matter but it is, in all honesty, actually harmless. The fanbase isn’t what it was in 2012, and again, anyone taking the show in that direction is clearly not doing so based on what they’ve seen or heard in the show and thus can’t count as a representation of it. Especially now that the show has veered off from WW2 quite a bit and now more often has more whimsical fun fact sort of topics or country interactions than anything (greece and turkey have a bathhouse scene because both their countries are really into that kinda thing, halloween in japan being cutesy vs halloween in america being scary, sealand in general, china makes a lot of silly bootleg versions of media, france’s entire episode genuinely telling the story of joan of arc to a friendly tourist, America having an alien pal from Roswell, etc.). To say it’s harmful at this point is, like I said, a stretch. There are things to change, things to make better, things to be more inclusive about- but the basis isn’t the strange, convoluted, malicious thing it’s being treated as.

So anyway. If you want to watch hetalia s7, go ahead. There is literally no problem with doing so, so long as you’re not already a terrible person. And in fact, watch it critically- the fanbase has done this for a long time now (recently more than ever though due to the fanbase being older and more mature on average than it was way back when) and reprimanded certain things that are no longer issues Because of that backlash (seychelles’ skin tone, taking down the btt and changing it to something way less nefarious, etc.). So long as you’re not an asshole and you have the capability to be critical of something while still liking other aspects- you can watch it and still enjoy it.

[beautiifulprincessdisorder]

welcome to my blog !

i finally got around to doing a pinned post ! (i dont really know how to format this so it probably looks bad, sorry!)

my name is ivan, i use he/him, i am genderfluid, bisexual and aroace. im also hungarian 🇭🇺 im autistic, have adhd and bpd. im an artist, but i dont post that much art here because i dont normally have that much time to draw.

my art reqs are currently:

open!

(but i probably wont get to them for a while i am the #1 procrastinator)

all of my art, selfship, proship stuff etc is getting crammed into here because i dont feel like making sideblogs as of now but that may be a thing in the future!

my special interest is hetalia, but i enjoy other things also, some including:

countries(just like. in general), history(specifically ww1 and ww2 but i love learning about all history!), touhou, countryballs/countryhumans, shakespeares plays (specifically romeo and juliet, if you couldnt tell by my profile.) e.g. i probably have more interests but i cant think of them as of now

i am a proshipper, as well as a com/darkshipper. im very openly profiction and im also prokink, propara, etc, but i am anticontact!!! i have no dni, anyone can interact with me but if youre going to be a dick i will block you. i block freely, so if i generally just dont like you i will also block you.

i am also a selfshipper! i have quite a few f/os and im neutral with sharing them(im not like, jumping with joy at the idea of it but im not uncomfortable with it either!) some of my f/os include:

- germany (hetalia) ; romantic f/o

- portugal (hetalia) ; romantic f/o

- seychelles (hetalia) ; platonic f/o

- hungary (hetalia) ; familial f/o

+a few more but these are my main f/os❤️ (i love my non-romantic f/os just as much as my romantic one so they deserve a mention here!)

i will probably edit this post as i go along, and as i change my layout!

if you read through this entire post then thank you for listening to me blabber🙏

[stuffwriter-needs-sleep]

I couldn’t find a single countryhuman Namibia and very little countryhuman Seychelles, so I might draw more of them, since they’re in the top 5 beer drinking squad :D Namibia has goats and a parrot in her flag, hence the horns and wings, and you’ll notice that Austria is winged as well~ I have a weakness for wings tbh.

On the other hand I hate drawing Germany. Nothing wrong with the country, but the countryhuman seems always kinda boring.

Okay so let’s confirm something.

I saw this on Facebook:

Ok, but that’s from 2016, and only in Europe, right. So who’s the beer drinking champion now?

Google?

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/which-country-drinks-the-most-beer.html

Uh huh...

Well, well, well...

I have no other choice.

BOOM THIS TOOK TWO HOURS but M Y G O D. It was worth it. It was definitely worth it!