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A NOTE REGARDING WIKIS AND LORE DOCS
I've mentioned this in Misutamojis before, but just realised there was nothing about it here so:
Please don't create public lore docs or wikis for GITM.
I totally understand that the story is already sprawling and there are a lot of characters to keep track of, but here is my reasoning behind this request:
GITM is still in its very early stages, there is so little that you concretely know about any of the characters/story that it is likely that any character bios people write will be fundamentally incorrect. Same goes for lore about the worldbuilding and the Sight. It's much easier to spread misinfo than fact, and certain stuff in fic is kept deliberately misleading/vague for fun story purposes.
GITM is not a TV show and I am not a showrunner. I am just another DCA fan on the internet who wants to chat about their OCs, I should be allowed to do that without having my every word indexed. To be clear, as I have said many many many many times in the past: people quoting what I say in discord, analysing my casual art/magmas/drabbles, or screencapping casual convos and jokes to pull them apart to dissect details from it makes me really really uncomfortable. If people started screencapping what I say to stick it on a doc for proof of XYZ thing about a character you guys haven't even met yet... I would probably stop interacting on this server point blank. Please imagine how you would feel if people were screenshotting your desktop background to read your filenames so they could theorycraft. That has happened in this server. More than once. Please stop. Your FOMO is not more important than my boundaries.
The intended reading experience for GITM is... reading GITM. Yes sometimes I share my personal headcanons and tidbits for characters, but I promise that all of this stuff will be discovered in fic. I don't want people to learn about Fool's favourite songs from a google doc. I want you to learn about it from GITM. That is why I am writing GITM: to tell you about these characters.
I would like the opportunity to make a GITM wiki myself at some point in the future.
I understand this might be frustrating, I know the lore is overwhelming as it stands. As always, if you have questions about the characters, you are welcome to ask in one of the discussion channels- I don't mind people @ ing me for that- I love talking about GITM! I am always happy to answer new FAQs at length.
#copied this over from the discord#shouldn't have to keep asking but putting this here so hopefully the people making them will see it and stop#qwillechatter#ghost in the machine au#ghost in the machine#gitm au
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I am a little confused so please correct me here you donât dislike Stanley right?
not at all!!!!!! i find ford more compelling because i relate to him a lot more than i do stan, but i think they're both amazing characters
#stan is a really great guy but so is ford#they're equal on that front and that's what makes how they interact with each other so interesting imo#so the reason i post about ford a lot and not stan is because everyone seems to love stan already#and understand his reasons and motives behind his desicions#but no one seems to do that with ford!! i feel like it's just misconseption after misconception#and that sounds like i think i know better than everyone else. and yknow maybe that's true#but allll the opinions i had about ford and bill were confirmed in tbob. like some of the stuff i said over discord#was said almost VERBATIM in there#so i've learned to stop doubting myself#also i literally am ford. not even fictionkin-wise just. i am basically a carbon copy of that guy#everyone's entitled to their opinions but that's not going to stop me from sharing mine yknow?#wow these tags are getting long. okay#gravity falls#stan pines#ford pines
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Thereâs this pretty big disparity Iâve noticed between how nolan (omniman) is interpreted in mainstream stuff vs his like actual character in both show/comic
Fanon nolan interpretation:
-doesnât feel remorse or empathy
-oh heâs soooo cool heâs so swag and smooth talking
-genuinely doesnât care for his son esp not his wife
-never cared for the guardians
-you donât get it heâs actually right guys!! Genocide good!
-this also ties in with just reducing mark to the âguy who gets beat up nonstopâ and debbie to âthe petâ
-they definitely think this version of nolan abides by human bigotry shit like sexism
Canon nolan (according to show and comic):
-oblivious to A LOT of social cues and overall very socially inept (very blunt and dry tone of voice so he always sounds kinda mad even if he isnât)
-actually cares about his family and friends but has trouble expressing it verbally, more show than tell
-cared ab the guardians and they were his friends but he repressed the hell out of what he did bc of guilt (and heâs dumb)
-says things like âcursesâ and âmoon it upâ
-monologues a bunch like holy shit
-very physically affectionate with the people heâs v close too (he also smiles guys!)
-makes jokes without trying (kinda hard to catch bc of the deadpan tone at times)
-would realistically be confused by earthâs own forms of bigotry and shit
-bookworm and wrote and documented things even before becoming a writer on earth!
-feels extreme remorse and guilt for his past actions but again has trouble showing it
#invincible#invincible show#nolan grayson#omniman#omni man#invincible comic#like i get it that a lot of the weird interpretations are dudebros projecting their toxic masculinity fantasies into him#but itâs no less fucking annoying#itâs easy for people to do this bc heâs a v stereotypical masculine guy#heâs tall w a deep voice and a angular face and built like a brick wall#but man itâs no less weird seeing ppl just say âyea he would totally do earth bigotryâ#like guys heâs an asshole but letâs be real for a minute âŚ.#he probably doesnât even know how to file a tax or drive a car#there is so much he would have to learn that earth prejudice would be something he just discards#anyways giant ramble over I literally copied and pasted this from what I said on discord w my friends but yea#sorry for being a nolan enjoyer guys#text post#cris rant
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(mgv) the first few heats after giselle's birth leave house consumed with parental devotion. he is protective to an insane degree and if she isn't gone to stay with someone before his heat really kicks in, any and all energy that would have gone into sex instead goes to being feral over the baby. example:
house and their pup are curled up in a nest he has carefully constructed for Maximum Comfort + Hide, practically wrapped around her as they nap. wilson left earlier to go grab a snack house had asked for and got sidetracked while at the store (keeps finding stuff they may want/need/might like and it becomes a Whole Thing) so he ended up being gone for long enough that house dozed off. when he comes back and house hears the sound of the front door unlocking, his eyes shoot open and he's instantly growling -- he's not even really awake, just running on pure instinct while his brain struggles to catch up. it's enough that when wilson walks in and hears it he stops on reflex -- an omega, in heat, nesting, with a pup, growling? alpha weakness. shakes them to their blood even when it's their omega because when instincts run high like that. even those in bonded pairs will tread carefully because the omega will Not Hesitate. it's not until wilson hesitantly calls out to him that house shakes himself out of it ("rrrrmrrgghhrrr--" " đ° house?" "--rrrmpp?"). then when wilson walks in with the snack and whatever other little tokens he found he plays it extra safe as an apology for being gone for so long; keeping his head bowed, placating notes in the scent he puts out, staying a respectful distance away from the nest until house explicitly permits him to come closer (house rolls his eyes when wilson hesitates to enter the nest even though he so clearly wants to)
#look you can hire an actual sitter with this ->#all you have to do is make sure when we come to pick her back up she has *your* scent on her so house doesn't find out#house mgv#hilson#house md#mgv#copy pasted from discord wojaflamh them folks over there get me on a roll sometimes#house hates leaving her for someone else to take care of especially when she's still so small#claims it's for health or developmental reasons but really he's just incredibly attached#his top 3 options for babysitting are chase thirteen or cuddy but they're all doctors so. yeah#luckily wilson was prepared for that. he brings her over and sneaks them some money like#once they meet nora the process has a lot less steps bc she can actually just watch giselle herself. i think#i haven't met her yet idk what she does but we're running on the assumption she is Not as busy as a doctor. plus she thinks giselle is ->#just the cutest thing and is glad to have her for herself for a few days
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I just remembered that the main conflict between HMS is Heart and Mind hating each other and violent rejecting harmonisation bc I'm just so used to Soul being the problem and Heart and Mind being loving brothers who just like to play fight a lot
Like⌠Heart and Mind are extremely cruel to each other in canon
Heart literally attempts to murder Mind and Mind mocks Heart as he tortures him
That's so horrible, and yet in the la la land of AXYER world they're driving home from a party and buying Taco Bell and Heart's not wearing a shirt and Mind hasn't slept in four days
#chonny jash#chonny jash heart#cj heart#cccc heart#chonny jash mind#cj mind#cccc mind#chonny jash soul#cj soul#cccc soul#chonny's charming chaos compendium#cccc#untitled chonny jash au#lost at sea#chonny jash au#cj au#cccc au#copy-pasted from discord#I'm serious tho Heart and Mind in my AU are just homies#like they snuggle and play Minecraft and buy each other gifts and what-have-you#they do gots the sibling rivalry but yk#Mind helps Heart with his disability (blind + unable to feel pain)#and Heart makes sure Mind rests and takes over when he's burnt out#and then there's THIS rat (Soul) /silly#in like every AU of mine except Pillow Club and Lost at Sea Soul is horrible#I mean he's been through so so so so much so it's expected#but man forty-eight minutes is a long time Soul#/ref
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Youâre welcome to explain your answer in the tags!
#julie and the phantoms#jatp#jatppolls#dont ask me why the number categories are like this!!! there is no rhyme or reason to them!!!#been thinking bout this for awhile now. cause it didnt occur to me that I havent watched it since i netflix partyâd it with Rosie in Sept#2021⌠which has been⌠a very long time. considering in 2020 after it came out i probably watched it over 100 times in full.#thereâs just something that stops me from clicking play on the show and i cant put it into words. its just this feeling i get every time my#mouse or finger hovers over the show. i also got rid of netflix this past year too but that was quite recent and i do have a copy of it on#my ipad sksjsj idk#guess im just curious if anyon else is in this weird limbo. dont get me wrong. i am still enamoured by this show but rewatching it is just#smthg i havent done in a hot minute. maybe i should make Rosie do another netflix party with me đ#i feel like if i was more active in a discord or on tumblr i wouldve tried to watch it with mutuals but alas i am incapable of having free#time outside of work and life.#once again i am shocked that the answers are centred in the bubbles before u click on them and it bothers me?!?#alt option: i have rewatched the show aolely through gifsets đ#sunset queue#<- queuing this for some reason. idk what the reason is.
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i fucking love the devourer of gods from the terraria calamity mod (rant)
god hes genuinely such a good skill check
like. i know it sounds strange because hes one of the very last bosses you have to fight but
he really is
hes the final wall before you can fight the rest
if you can't beat him as intended there's no way in hell you're beating the rest
because like. even up to the sentinels
you can just annihilate them
but you HAVE to be able to dodge his attacks
hes got too much health, and hes got mechanics in place to nullify attempts to cheese him
hes the true skill check of the calamity mod
no other boss comes close to how he makes you feel fighting him
he truly does make you feel like you're fighting a god though
with the devourer of gods, it doesnt necessarily feel like a fight for your life. it's that, sure, but it's also a fight for divinity
it feels like a climb to new heights
i love him as a boss
he's so well executed
the music also feels this way though
it reaches a crescendo mid-battle and he transforms, showing you his true power and with it, a new theme
and it goes harder than DIAMONDS
like every battle after truly feels like a battle between gods.
but devourer of gods?
it's a battle between mortal and immortal
and it FUCKS
it makes you feel so powerful
he truly is the gateway to true power, as well
the final tier of gear is locked behind him
his first phase feels like he's playing with you, almost
it's kinda reinforced when you get him down to 75% hp and he goes "Don't get cocky!"
but when you get him down to 60%, he transforms
he gets much larger, much longer, and the difficulty of the fight increases significantly
i dont like to call him a gatekeeper because he's so much more than that but
he is a DAMN good one
he is the gateway to divinity, and you have to break it the fuck open with all you've got
#terraria#calamity mod#copied this from discord sorry abt the weird format#i go insane over him#maxx rambles
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Finding out websites/ apps I actively use are doing shitass updates that ruin the experience either aesthetically or (in the objectively worse case) with functionality.
#ventings#<- ok2rb tho#anyways LITERALLY the fucking fun part about discord was i could do literally any fucking username i wanted and could take it back#when i wanted to revert or just change on a whim#now im gonna have to create an alt to save one of my usernames bc i dont want it to get fucking nabbed#im sorry im kinda getting irrationally mad over this but also this is fucking dumb im sorry#i hate @s being forced into discord can you PLEASE leave me alone with my silly id no. that ive grown attached to#id numbers are easy as fuck to get used to or if you share online you LITERALLY can just copy from inside the app
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Qrow and RNJR vs Tyrian is such a SAD fight scene to me tbh like it's just the combination of it coming right after they've all travelled through all these pillaged towns and watched people die in preventable ways in a region thatâs already notorious for being borderline uninhabitable on TOP of having come back from Beacon falling and losing Pyrrha & Penny... just Ruby pushing herself to fight Tyrian bc she feels obligated to do so out of already carrying guilt over all those people she couldn't save so that no-one else around her gets hurt (because of her) and Qrow trying to keep the kids out of the fight because he doesn't want anyone to get hurt (because of him). On top of the fact that Tyrian as a >30-something yo guy just decides to call the Actual Child(TM) he was threatening and stalking and attempting to kidnap a bitch regardless of whether or not it's in the heat of the moment and she maimed him that shit tends to stick in ur mind bruh
#Todd churns out words#rwby ramble#text#rwby#rwby4#oops I slipped there#copy-pasted shower thoughts from discord while I watch a reaction series....#v4 for me was the healing and downtime period before we had v9 but there was SO MUCH DESPAIR#and as the cherry on top I know for a fact Qrow would have come out of him in particular being poisoned#with the mindset of ''better me than them''#which like other than saying it as a guardian him saying it because of self loathing and the misfortune having hit him over everyone else#anyways enjoy my shitty takes of the evening :D
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Idk if you've been asked before but do you have a TMA oc :)
i had this oc brick who was a vast and buried avatar who died and got buried and then crawled out of the grave to their two boyfriends who also ended up having fucked up stuff happen to them. i used them for tma rp
and this one unnamed oc who was a corruption avatar, corruption avatar that has a garden full of fruit trees (mostly orange) the trees all look healthy from the outside but the inside is decaying, and the fruit they make are already filled with mold grew orange trees and made jam. she became an avatar after finding an orange on the ground but she knew it wasnât from one of her trees. like she knows itâs not hers but she brings it in anyways and when she peels the orange itâs all just mold, even though it looks perfect from the outside. that was just an idea i never used her for anything
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@shatterxdsouls Alright, he had been trying to be nice, until that statement was made. Here he had been thinking that Tommy had turned over a new tree, or whatever that saying was, but he was being proven wrong. It seemed that Tommy had just come to mock him, and he was wondering if the other had been trying to get him to talk, just so he could use it against Steve. Because yeah, Steve Harrington had just admitted he would sleep with a guy. And though he hardly had a reputation to ruin anymore, that didnât bode well for him.
âWow, fuck off Tommy. And here I thought you had changed.â The disappointment was clearly louder than the anger, shaking his head. âIâm not a bitch, and I dare you to try saying that again. Go ahead, then I can just show you how much of a bitch I apparently am.â Steve hadnât had a fight in a good long time, at least not against anything that wasnât a monster from the Upside Down. He wouldnât mind hitting Tommy Hagan in the face, if it came down to it.
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The Winter's Ball [Part One] ~~ [Snowmas]
In which the winter ball doesn't exactly go as planned...[takes place: December 16, 2023]
@lady-snow-flower
[cw -- none]
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[link here]
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#swynsnow#snowmas#the winter's ball#after 7 years#i'm learning my lesson about#copying important things over#from discord
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How about a short ficlet instead?
(Context is I was thinking about an iterator oc of mine which I havent mentioned here meeting an Echo of the Ancient who built them. The idea was that the thing which kept them trapped in their limbo as an Echo was their love for the oc. None of this will probably make sense without Rain World knowledge)
Imagine, meeting this twisted memory of someone you new, and echo of who they used to be, trapped in an eternal moment, unable to move on, yet forever detached from the thing so dear they couldn't bear to leave it behind.
Imagine that beneath the warped surface of reality, you recognize their face.
Behind the reverberating chimes of bells unseen, you know their voice.
They recognize you, greet you with fondness, and yet the seem to speak through you. Their eyes never truly focus, a layer detached from the moment at hand.
You know this person. Their name is painted over the entrance to your home.
How could you ever forget it, when they were the one to gift you yours?
How could you ever forget their face, when it was the first sight your eyes beheld?
How could you ever forgive yourself, when it was you that did this to them?
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When you wake up in your chamber something feels different.
You don't remember falling asleep, except⌠yes you do. You powered down at the end of last cycle for routine maintenance, just like you always do after strenuous experiments.
And yet, you⌠you woke up already. Didn't you?
There was something in your chamber with you, it felt familiar. You recognized them.
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Them? Yes⌠yes it was a person, someone you knew.
But no, you only just woke up. Your internal clock confirms it. There's no .mem file between now and when you fell asleep.
A dream? That must be it. It wouldn't be your first, even if the answer doesn't fully satisfy you.
Well, can't let something so small as a weird dream get in the way of your experiments! That last one showed some real promise, now if only you could just track down a few more karma flowersâŚ.
Dream forgotten, you go about your day, already lost in thought about the latest in the string of recent breakthroughs regarding karma flowers and the nature of echoes. Perhaps someday you'll finally manage to induce the appearance of one of the mysterious beings that are so often mentioned in ancient scripture.
But that feeling never quite fades away, even as you grown accustomed to its presence. Some part of you, right at your center, and yet somehow deeper, feels almost⌠heavier. As if something is dragging you down, towards something immense. It should scare you, but it doesn't. The grasp is firm, but somehow fragile. Like it could slip away at any moment. There's a part of you that reaches back, scrabbling and desperate, afraid of losing hold of that foreign presence. It pulls you down, but your footing is solid. It won't topple you to serve as its anchor.
Your cycle plays out as many cycles before, full of intrigue and excitement, yet shaded by a strange sense of melancholy. And yet⌠you feel warmer. More present. The guilt seems smaller today.
Before long, you find your focus drifting away from your experiments. Maybe⌠maybe you don't need to do this right now.
You join the cluster's private line, and are met with exclamations of pleasant surprise from your family. The rest of your cycle is a blur of casual chatter and familial shenanigans, and the others are quietly delighted when your version of smile falls into something genuine and full. You didn't realize how much you missed this.
The next few hours are free from experiments, trial, theories and frustration. You don't feel the urge to busy your hands or lose yourself to research. For the first time in a long time, you are content to sit with your family and just be.
Oc rambles free card. Talk about whatever tf you want about your little homemade blorbo
#rain world#my writing#iterator oc#Whispers of Fortune#<- I think thats the first time ive used that oc tag here#i really should get around to making a side blog where I can post all the oc stuff ive made so far#this is copied over from discord so tumblr might bungle the formatting a bit#oh well
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Iâm Declaring War Against âWhat Ifâ Videos: Project Copy-Knight
What Are âWhat Ifâ Videos?
These videos follow a common recipe: A narrator, given a fandom (usually anime ones like My Hero Academia and Naruto), explores an alternative timeline where something is different. Maybe the main character has extra powers, maybe a key plot point goes differently. They then go on and make up a whole new story, detailing the conflicts and romance between characters, much like an ordinary fanfic.
Except, they are fanfics. Actual fanfics, pulled off AO3, FFN and Wattpad, given a different title, with random thumbnail and background images added to them, narrated by computer text-to-speech synthesizers.
They are very easy to make: pick a fanfic, copy all the text into a text-to-speech generator, mix the resulting audio file with some generic art from the fandom as the background, give it a snappy title like âWhat if Deku had the Power of Ten Ringsâ, photoshop an attention-grabbing thumbnail, dump it onto YouTube and get thousands of views.
In fact, the process is so straightforward and requires so little effort, itâs pretty clear some of these channels have automated pipelines to pump these out en-masse. They donât bother with asking the fic authors for permission. Sometimes they donât even bother with putting the ficâs link in the description or crediting the author. These content-farms then monetise these videos, so they get a cut from YouTubeâs ads.
In short, an industry has emerged from the systematic copyright theft of fanfiction, for profit.
Project Copy-Knight
Since the adversaries almost certainly have automated systems set up for this, the only realistic countermeasure is with another automated system. Identifying fanfics manually by listening to the videos and searching them up with tags is just too slow and impractical.
And so, I came up with a simple automated pipeline to identify the original authors of âWhat Ifâ videos.
It would go download these videos, run speech recognition on it, search the text through a database full of AO3 fics, and identify which work it came from. After manual confirmation, the original authors will be notified that their works have been subject to copyright theft, and instructions provided on how to DMCA-strike the channel out of existence.
I built a prototype over the weekend, and it works surprisingly well:
On a randomly-selected YouTube channel (in this case Infinite Paradox Fanfic), the toolchain was able to identify the origin of half of the content. The raw output, after manual verification, turned out to be extremely accurate. The time taken to identify the source of a video was about 5 minutes, most of those were spent running Whisper, and the actual full-text-search query and Levenshtein analysis was less than 5 seconds.
The other videos probably came from fanfiction websites other than AO3, like fanfiction.net or Wattpad. As I do not have access to archives of those websites, I cannot identify the other ones, but they are almost certainly not original.
Armed with this fantastic proof-of-concept, Iâm officially declaring war against âWhat Ifâ videos. The mission statement of Project Copy-Knight will be the elimination of âWhat Ifâ videos based on the theft of AO3 content on YouTube.
I Need Your Help
I am acutely aware that I cannot accomplish this on my own. There are many moving parts in this system that simply cannot be completely automated â like the selection of YouTube channels to feed into the toolchain, the manual verification step to prevent false-positives being sent to authors, the reaching-out to authors who have comments disabled, etc, etc.
So, if you are interested in helping to defend fanworks, or just want to have a chat or ask about the technical details of the toolchain, please consider joining my Discord server. I could really use your help.
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See full blog article and acknowledgements here: https://echoekhi.com/2023/11/25/project-copy-knight/
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#i did a deep dive through some stuff looking for a really old wip that i was reminded of by a discord server#(alas did not find it :c#but oh my god#I booted up my old macbook that i haven't used in over 6 years just to see if maybe it was saved on there#and i found so much stuff#a lot of really bad memories/reminders of my marriage and ideals that i used to have#it was just not great and led to a whole fucking fiasco on my PC when I turned off the macbook cause fucking GOOGLE#but anyways I found some old fanfics that I wrote when I was like 15-17 lmao#it was like three different stories in one document for some reason but they were for two different fandoms? Why were they even together id#but it was sg1 and supernatural cause yeah I was that kind of teenager#(this was pre-tumblr era; i didn't join tumblr till i was like 20 and that was STILL 11 years ago)#i didn't even read the whole document cause the font size was all over the place for some reason and really hard to read#but i copy/pasted it into a google document so that i could remove it from that computer and read it again#definitely some OC's and very much of the Mary Sue variety#there was a whole family of OC's and I don't remember at all where I dragged those ones out of or what their story was supposed to be#but it's intrigued me tbh; maybe i can revamp them lmao#i caught myself in my own plot twist though cause i was reading it and had a WHAT moment at a reveal that i forgot about#this was clearly back before i felt the need to compile story notes too#either i had more confidence in my memory when ideas struck or i was just pulling all of it directly out of my ass#which the latter is way more plausible tbh#i'm going to read through this document more thoroughly tonight now that i have it as a uniform font size#it's nearly 20k words between the three or four stories in the document though which surprised me tbh#kee speaks#OH and also I found another really short blurb of some OC's that I have introduced here before#It's Tyr and Brennan from before I changed their names and I'm not entirely sure what my plan had been for it#but it's basically word vomit of me trying to get the imagery and visceral whump description of sensations onto the page#followed up with really cute comfort cuddling which made me all 'd'aww' over my own characters lmao#maybe I can run with that one and actually make it into a story
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how i caught entei in leafgreen in the most ridiculous way possible
SO last week i started a pokemon leafgreen file on my childhood cart i've had since my 5th birthday, and one my goals ended up being getting every owned dex entry possible in JUST the one copy of leafgreen without connecting to any other game⌠and i did. except i forgot one. ENTEI!!
like probably a lot of you reading this i COMPLETELY forgot that one of the johto roaming beasts is in every copy of FRLG. i never even caught any of them as a kid. which roamer you get is based on your starter (squirtle = raikou, bulbasaur = entei, charmander = suicune) and i happened to pick bulbasaur so my roamer was entei. it does actually ROAM in kanto, aka whenever you change locations, the pokemon moves to a new route. obviously this is a pain in the ass, but it gets even more painful because roamers can flee from the battle and they will the instant you encounter them. you get the chance to throw one ball or use one move and that's it⌠so like in most pokemon games, you would use a trapping move like mean look to keep the roamer in the battle and turn it into a normal legendary encounter, right? HAHA WRONG
raikou and entei are affected by the ROAMER ROAR BUG in FRLG, which means if they use roar to escape the battle (yes, even in mean look, it doesn't stop roar from working) they just disappear from the game. permanently. forever. you can never capture it. suicune is not affected by this because it doesn't have roar, but my roamer was entei, so uh. the odds were stacked against me. did i want to repetitively encounter the roamer over and over, never trapping it, just throwing one ball each time? or did i want to set up a mean look pokemon only to have to soft reset every time entei used roar? neither option sounded fun and i was going to just give up and master ball it despite REALLY wanting it in a luxury ball like all the other kanto legendaries i had already caught⌠UNTIL!
i am a moderator of the ribbon master discord (a different pokemon challenge) and i was just sorta liveposting my thought process about this annoying roamer when gen 3 rng manipulation extraordinaire ddeeffgg crashes into the chat and suggests this fucking bonkers idea. and his bonkers idea is galaxy brain LET ME EXPLAIN
ariados is available in leafgreen's post game by catching spinarak in pattern bush, and of course electrode is a fairly common kanto pokemon. ariados gets access to spider web, which is basically just mean look with a different name (and i completely forgot it existed), it traps the opponent in the battle. but IMPORTANTLY, it ALSO gets access to BATON PASS⌠which, in gen 3, passes the trapping effect! usually if you were to use spider web and swap out ariados, the opponent would no longer be trapped, but baton pass solves that! and then electrode has the ability soundproof which prevents roar from working, and it even gets thunder wave (paralysis) and sonicboom (consistent 20 damage with no chance of accidental crits) to assist in easier capture of entei! nice!! awesome!! but getting this setup in order is the most ridiculous shit i've ever done in leafgreen
PROBLEM #1: ariados gets baton pass through egg move. in gen 3, egg moves are only passed down by the father and not the mother, so i had to grab a male ledyba, grind it to a high enough level to learn baton pass, then grab a female spinarak and breed them together. unfortunately this means my ariados would be level 1 and i'd have to train it up quite a bit, which leads into my next problemâŚ
PROBLEM #2: ariados is SLOWWW. its base speed is a measly 40 compared to entei's whopping 100! ariados needs to outspeed entei to use spider web first turn so entei can't just run away! i would have to get ariados to a very high level to outspeed entei, grinding all the way from level 1. the one plus side is that the roamers in FRLG are bugged to always have a 0 IV in defense, special attack, special defense, and speed, which means unless entei has a +speed nature, its speed would always be a predictable and relatively low 105 at level 50, which is what it's encountered at. so i had to get an ariados with a speed of 106 or higher.
to get around both these problems as efficiently as possible, while breeding spinarak, i bred quite a few to get one with a +speed nature, and ended up with a jolly spinarak. everstone doesn't work in FRLG unfortunately, so the nature was completely random each time. soon my DAUGHTER WAS BORN after like 2-3 hours of breeding because FRLG eggs are SLOOOW and i was being stubborn about the nature, which i was getting unlucky on LOL
then i maxed out her speed EVs real quick by fighting picnicker susie on route 13 over and over, who gives 12 speed EVs per battle, 24 with the macho brace, which i was using. this was just to make sure i would reach 106+ speed as fast as possible. then i grinded her levels by repetitively fighting the two trainers right outside the weird chansey dance guy's house in sevault canyon on seven island, right above tanoby ruins. using the vs seeker on them is the best grinding spot in the game since they give 20k experience per fighting both of them and there's a healing spot Right There. i was using exp share and leading with my level 100 jolteon named Egg who i adore with all my heart. ariados, now named koolaid, ended up crossing the speed threshold at level 62! yes this took a while lmao
as for electrode, i wanted one at as high of a level as possible so i hopefully wouldn't have to grind levels. i lucked out as electrode is found at a whopping level 64 in cerulean cave's bottom floor. a 5% encounter rate but as i had already caught numerous 5%s for the pokedex, i didn't really care. however it DOES have explosion and i'd rather not have the electrode explode on me before i could catch it which would then send me on a wild goose chase for ANOTHER 5% electrode⌠so i grabbed the random level 24 poliwhirl with the damp ability, which prevents explosion from working, out of my PC, and gave it a smoke ball from the celadon game corner so i could lead with her and easily run from each encounter that Wasn't Electrode.
now you may be wondering how i was going to handle capturing electrode once i was actually in the battle because SURELY it would just use thunderbolt or something and instantly murder my poliwhirl. however funnily enough electrode only has two attacking moves at level 64, swift and explosion. explosion obviously doesn't work, and swift is a physical attack in gen 3 due to all normal type moves being physical, this was before the physical/special split in gen 4. electrode's physical attack stat is a garbage 50 and swift only has a base power of 60 so i honestly wasn't concerned. and best of all, poliwhirl gets the move hypnosis, so i could easily put electrode to sleep and start chucking ultra balls⌠and the smoke ball ended up being useless because i somehow ran into electrode first try what the fuck LOL
anyways i named them gatorade to match with koolaid. truly the dream entei capturing team. i didn't even feel the need to grind any levels on gatorade, level 64 was more than enough, so i just slapped the two moves i wanted on them - thunder wave through the one-use tutor in silph co, and sonicboom through the move reminder on two island, costing me two tinymushrooms which i thankfully already had and did not have to go out of my way to grind.
however the hours worth of prep ISN'T DONE YET! because uhhâŚ
PROBLEM #3: ariados has to be above entei's level to outspeed it (yes, even if it had a 31 IV in speed AND a speed boosting nature AND maximum speed EVs, it still wouldn't be enough at level 50), which means the repel trick can't be used to encounter it. tracking down the roamer is practically impossible without using repels to cancel out all other wild pokemon, and in gen 3, unlike later gens, you can't put a fainted pokemon in the front of the party for the repel trick instead. and if i DON'T lead with ariados, entei will run away when i try to swap into it. SO i decided i would have to run into entei once first through the repel trick method, which marks it as "seen" in the pokedex, and then i would track its location through the pokedex to encounter it while leading with ariados.
to accomplish this, i simply ran in and out of the building on route 16, going in and out of the grass in the process, which would constantly be randomizing entei's location until it happened to randomize onto route 16. i caught a staryu with illuminate as an ability to raise the chance of entei appearing, which does work while staryu is fainted (wouldn't want to go in and out of the grass while entei was on route 16 without encountering it!) and otherwise led with my level 50 magmar that was on my elite four team named Torch for the repel trick.
i bought a whopping 100 max repels for this task but i ended up getting entei within just a few lol. torch was holding the smoke ball just to be able to run away safely without any shenanigans!
and now entei was in the pokedex and able to be tracked that way!
however, there was still ONE more problem...
PROBLEM #4: luxury balls are a pain in the ASS to get in this game! they can't be bought from any shop. the only way to repeatedly get luxury balls in FRLG is to show a pokemon to selphy, a rich girl who lives in resort gorgeous on five island.
i will mostly skim over this because it's boring, but TLDR i had to continuously talk to her, fly back to the pokemon center, get the pokemon she wanted to see out of the PC because the step limit is 250 before she gets sick of waiting which is like nothing (i already had a living dex of every mon obtainable in leafgreen otherwise so this wasn't hard), surf to her, then spam A through dialogue with her butler in which i had a 70% chance of receiving a luxury ball. i did this over 40 times until i had 30 luxury balls, and sold off all the nuggets and other items she gave me. good lord this took a while
and now with ALL of that setup i was FINALLY ready to capture entei in a luxury ball. this took me literally all day and i was really excited. to consistently encounter entei, i saved in cerulean city and tracked it in the pokedex from there, opening it over and over after changing to any of the four routes connected to the city, and moving to an adjacent route from entei's location when it was close in the hopes of walking onto the same route it moved to when i did. i was following a map made by hangarofroam, he has a video tutorial on how to shiny hunt the FRLG roamers and encounter them as quickly as possible, and i highly recommend looking it up if you want to capture these roamers yourself, but tldr this is the map i was using:
and once i encountered entei i was finally able to use the strategy i had prepped so long to do... and it worked without a hitch!! entei can't try to use roar first turn because it wastes a turn trying to flee, which is prevented by ariados outspeeding and using spider web... then if it tries to use roar the next turn, i've already switched into electrode to block it with soundproof. so from there it's just a matter of whittling down entei's HP to the red with swift/sonicboom and paralyzing it with thunder wave, then tossing luxury balls until success!
and i GOT IT after 3 encounter attempts and 73 luxury balls thrown. and FINALLY i have all 171 national dex entries possible in a single copy of leafgreen with no connection to other games, and all the legendaries are in fancy ass luxury balls. i am winning.
this was ridiculous. please be proud of my accomplishments. i've had this file for less than 2 weeks and i already have over 70 hours of gameplay in it after doing all this AAAAA
also barely related but look at Egg my jolteon he had like no purpose in this story but i took a pic of him in front of entei before going on to capture entei because i love him so much pleas
thanks for coming to my fucking ted talk i am SOOO normal about pokemonsdfjkfds (joke)
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