#comparing Hen and Chim to Buddie

[exhuastedpigeon]

I went back and watched the Hen and Chim goodbye scene when Chim was leaving to find Maddie in s5 and the difference between that goodbye and the Buddie goodbye are making me insane.

Hen shows up after Chim is done packing the car up and offers to go with him.

They're both crying the whole time.

Hen is clearly sad to see Chim go, but is so supportive of him going. She isn't bringing any of her feelings about him leaving into it.

They hug goodbye without any awkward 'should we hug' moment.

Hen sadly watches Chim drive away, but there isn't a super long, lingering shot on her as she does.

Compared to the Buddie goodbye.

Buck helps Eddie pack up.

Buck finds Chris's favourite shirt that's he's been missing and tells Eddie to make sure Chris knows he found it (because he clearly doesn't want Chris to forget him either).

Eddie tells Buck he matters to him and he's going to miss him, but instead of getting tearful/emotional about it Buck still seems like he's trying to hide how he's feeling from Eddie.

Buck baked Eddie cookies to help him stay awake while he drives (because he saw how tired Eddie got after driving around all night looking for Maddie a few weeks prior).

The awkward little dance before they hug.

The way they both clung to each other during the hug and Buck buried his face in Eddie's neck was such a different vibe from the Chimney and Hen goodbye hug.

Buck tells him "You get out of here" when Eddie's leaving.

Eddie turns around to look at Buck as he's leaving, like the last look wasn't enough.

Eddie waving goodbye and looking at Buck in the mirror as he drove away.

Buck standing sadly in the middle of the street in the rain as Eddie drove away with the close up on his face felt tonally different than the Hen look while Chim drove away.

Their friendships have always felt different and been portrayed differently, not just in a 'they're different characters' way, but in a way that feels especially stark watching the goodbyes one right after the other. I don't have some grand observation, just that the vibes were so different even though they were both between two best friends saying goodbye for an indeterminate period of time.

[nerdy-frog98]

I know this has probably already been pointed out a lot, but I’m still relatively new to the fandom and I haven’t personally seen anyone talk about it, so forgive me if this is repetitive.

Every other main character has found their permanent love interest EXCEPT for Buck and Eddie.

Chim + Maddie, Bobby + Athena, Hen + Karen.

Buck & Eddie’s lack of permanent partners that are well developed…seems a little bit intentional to me. I know it’s probably not, but it’s hard to see it any other way.

At this point, I don’t even think a well-written love interest for either Buck or Eddie would compare to the slow-burn potential of Buddie…And this is coming from someone who got to binge the show in a month, not watch it episode by episode for YEARS.

I know that technically both are in relationships as of present, but I’m almost 100% certain Eddie won’t be for much longer. His relationship with Marisol was never going to last long-term anyway, regardless of the cheating storyline. Buck and Tommy? I don’t see them working out long-term either. ‘Buck, Bothered, and Bewildered’ fully convinced me that Buck has misplaced his feelings for Eddie onto Tommy (the workout scene while Eddie is on the phone… you’re telling me he wanted TOMMY’S attention there? Tommy wasn’t even there! Plus the little quip by Maddie about Eddie’s plans being ‘circled’ with a heart). Anyway, my point is that I don’t think either of their relationships will work out long term. but

EVEN if they did, neither relationship would be as satisfying as Buddie. Buck and Eddie have BEEN THERE for each other for yearsssss, caring for each other, coparenting, generally having each other’s backs.

Even introducing a new, well-written love interest with stories outside of being a love interest and a compelling narrative would still not be good enough for either.

Just some silly Saturday thoughts, I guess.

[matan4il]

911 ep 701 first watch reactions

(I don't think I have the energy to write proper Buddie meta, so here's me randomly squealing instead...)

LMAO In case you were wondering whether s7 of 911 will be subtle about their gratitude/debt to ABC for saving the show, the answer is a resounding no.

Also, I have lost a lot of respect for Frank as a shrink, but gained a lot of love for him as a sass king. "Did she win!?" The murderous look Athena gave him was priceless. I love her, too. She doesn't even need words to rule.

Man, nooooo. Don't give me a mutual "I love you" between Bobby and Athena like that.

"Go ahead and cut the green wire." Everyone and their sister: "Green? You said Red."

9-1-1 is the superior comedy they slipped into our drink, while we were here for our weekly action, suspense, drama and familial love.

Buck broke off with Natalia, and the show really did it like that. XD Every single person who rolled their eyes at this pairing during s6, we were all justified, but wow. The show really is the only forum to respect the pair even less than fandom does. And of course we find out about it in the middle of a scene built around Eddie being half naked, Buck watching him, with the camera specifically turning so we can discover Buck was initially covered by Eddie's body, and the angle change reveals him, when the whole thing wraps up with Eddie welcoming Buck back to the land of the living... Yeah, wonder what made Buck feel alive again. Don't know. 'Tis a mystery. We were given zero clues...

"I want the honeymoon life." *cries* Chimney is just such a good, good man. And okay, expecting your whole life to be a honeymoon's a bit unrealistic, but Madney are living together and they have a child. They know this. Chim knows this, but he still wants to go for it. Aim for the moon, you'll at least land among the stars, right?

Bobby baffled by Athena's reaction to Norman and Lola is hilarious.

I like how Chim has a great idea, but it's still obvious that it's gonna go wrong, because he can't help going overboard with it...

OMG, that scene with Eddie recounting to Buck what Christopher's date was like... If I were to write my Buddie meta, I would serve a three course meal just from that. I mean, the fact that watching Chris hanging out with a girl he likes, makes Eddie compare it to "hanging out with his guy friends" (when there's no lack of interest in this girl... in fact, it turns out that if anything, Christopher's problem is the opposite of a lack of interest) is so telling. There's a reason why that's where Eddie's mind went.

But then also... Eddie's trust in Buck got to me, the way he went to his best friend (not his own gf) for help with Chris. But that was still played with half a smile. But then Buck sort of disses himself jokingly, and Eddie won't have it. "You didn't end up like you." He sees how Buck worked on being a better person, even when Eddie wasn't there for the worst of it, and he appreciates it, and won't let Buck forget it. Meeeep. I love them.

Oh Chim. I was giving you so much credit, and then you went and bought that outdoors jacuzzi. lol Still love him. That's what Maddie's reminding herself of right now, too. ;p

Poor Hen, she was great in this ep, but none of it was really about her, she was comic relief, both with Chim and with the red wire. Then again, she was amazing in this, like she always is with everything.

Eddie and Buck were both so good with Chris this ep, MY HEART. Buck with getting him to talk about what's really bothering him, and Eddie with realizing exactly what his son needs, and how to give it to him. They completed each other. Neither one would be helping Chris without the other one. Tell me again how they're not soulmates?

In conclusion, I love Bobby saying, "Let's go prove one of us wrong," when they're both right. Something WAS going on with Norman and Lola, AND Athena was using them to avoid him.

Argh. That scene of the ship and its passengers being hijacked was rough to watch. </3 I'll still be here to watch the conclusion of this. That's the power of 9-1-1 for you.

It def felt like a great kick to the new season. We had lots of comedy and fun, some great tension, some emotional moments (especially with Christopher), but all in all, it's still clear that the whole thing's a build up to next week. Are you excited?

[lemotmo]

I just watched 911 8x10 and…

Here are random thoughts and impressions in no particular order whatsoever, because my brain is going into overload after this episode. We were served a 10 course meal here.

So first thought of the day:

HOLY FUCKING SHIT!

Maddie Han you are the baddest bitch! I love you!

This episode was stunning from beginning to end. So far 8b has got off on a great start.

Abigail Spencer I did not know your game!!! I had never heard of you before 911, but you can be rest assured that I’m going to look up things you acted in, because you were incredible!

That whole Amber and Maddie storyline was good from beginning to end. I got swept away in it and had to walk around while watching, because it was so full of suspense that I couldn’t stay seated.

That shot of Amber slicing Maddie’s throat was AAAAAH! You should know about me that I do not watch horror movies or any kind of scary movie really. I just can’t handle them. I don’t like too much blood and gore. So this episode really tested me, but I got through it.

The moment when Chimney was on the phone with Athena and Amber was behind him, I was full on screaming at the TV-screen, yelling at Chim. That was sooooo good!

Poor Maddie though. She keeps going through these terrible things. Although I am happy that it turns out that she didn’t talk that guy into killing himself. That was just iffy.

But the baby’s fine and it’s a boy!!! I do wonder how Maddie is able to speak though. Her throat was slashed. She shouldn’t be able to talk for weeks. Ah well—911 magical healing no doubt. 🤷‍♀️

And the Buddie of it all! AAAAH!

I mean, Buck calling Eddie to come over to Chim’s? Eddie and Chim’s friendly hug compared to that tight Buddie hug in the end? The Chimney & Hen friendship comparison next to whatever it was that Buck & Eddie were doing? Because that was not the same at all.

That scene in the car where Buck summed up all the things that had gone wrong in his life and he tops it off with Eddie leaving as if that was the most important thing to him in that moment. And Eddie’s face as soon as it left Buck’s mouth, with his little “It’s not nothing.”. I died.

The ending was *chef’s kiss*. Their goodbye! Eddie’s “I hope you know you do matter to me.” The music that started with Madney and went into the Buddie scene. That hug, their faces smushed into each other’s neck and Buck’s face in the end when Eddie drives off. It just breaks my heart. I was full on crying at that point. I feel like Eddie was leaving all of us or something like that. Just thinking about it makes me tear up again.

The Abby parallels went insane here.

I’m sore I’ve forgotten a bunch of stuff, but this was just my first reaction. I’ll talk about other stuff as the week progresses.

8b is already turning out to be better than season 7 and 8a combined. Let’s hope they’ll keep up the quality.

[russellradio]

~to be updated when I post a new fic, so I have them all in one place~

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the worst things you think about yourself (T, 2.2k | ao3)

Buck is trying his best to act normal at the 118's farewell dinner but Eddie knows something is off. When he overhears a conversation Buck has with Hen, he realizes that words that are said in the heat of the moment still stick.

or: hen helps eddie understand why he lashed out at buck

disappearing into the distance (T, 16.4k) | ao3

Eddie wasn’t sure why he and Maddie weren’t close. It was strange, considering her little brother was the most important person in his life. Still, when the door opened, tight hugs were exchanged and cheerful welcome homes rang in his ears. “Does Bobby know? I gotta call Bobby!”, Chimney yelled.

“Could you wait a minute?”, Eddie interjected. His eyes darted between them for a moment and landed on Chim, deciding he was his best bet. “Maybe first explain to me why I went to see Buck and his loft was empty. Am I missing something? Did he move?”

or: eddie comes back from texas – only to find that buck has left los angeles

be someone (T, 2.4k) | ao3

A call leaves Buck wondering if he’ll ever be a parent. Not just a donor, a dad. A great dad. Chimney tries to convince him of his qualities – and Eddie has a hard time staying quiet.

or: eddie thinks buck already is someone to chris

will you remember me? (T, 4.5k) | ao3

You know the trope: Someone suffers from amnesia and they don’t remember their partner. Well, this is the opposite. Buck doesn’t remember a thing – except that he loves Eddie. How is Eddie supposed to tell him they’re not actually together?

for summer of buddie – week 5: break the cliché

nobody compares (G, 1.3k) | ao3 | (hopeful ending buddie)

"Sorry", Eddie said and scrunched his nose.

"No, you’re right", Tommy admitted. "I don’t want that. I want to give him something he’ll love."

"Well, then not a gift card. Look, I’ve been a terrible gift giver in relationships, so I’m not judging. But you look like you’re getting a migraine, so maybe… let me help you?"

A deep sigh escaped him. "How?"

or: eddie helps tommy shop for buck's birthday gift and inadvertently makes things worse

unless you're choosing me (T, 4.4k) | ao3

"Could you check that?", Eddie called from the kitchen. He had insisted to make something for them tonight instead of ordering their usual pizza and ice cream dinner.

"Sure", Buck replied and snatched the phone off the coffee table. He knew the pass code – it was the day Eddie had started working at the 118. There was no new text, just a message from his phone provider, but an earlier conversation was still opened. Before Buck could place the phone back on the table, something caught his eye. Why was Eddie talking to Hen about him?

or: buck reads a text he wasn’t supposed to read

when it all melts down (T, 2.2k) | ao3

Buck thinks a beach day is the perfect distraction from an empty house and a lack of summer plans. Eddie thinks if Buck walks out of the ocean like a Greek god one more time, he might just lose his mind.

or: there’s only one cure for a frozen tongue after too much ice cream

I wish I could help (E, 2.1k) | ao3

Eddie is so pent up he can barely focus on his job – and Buck is all too happy to help. That’s just what friends do.

or: I couldn’t find any smut referring to *that* scene in 7x05, so I wrote it

thanks, babe! (T, 1.8k) | ao3

Eddie accidentally calls Buck babe and refuses to have a meltdown over it. It was just his subconscious betraying him because they were surrounded by couples, right? Right?!

or: I love “accidental” tropes, how did you know

more under the cut

do you want to know a secret (T, 3.2k) | ao3

Buck overworks himself and his family worries. When Eddie overhears a conversation between Maddie and Chimney, he learns he might just have caused Buck’s change in behavior. The good news is – there’s something he can do about it.

or: maddie and chimney worry over pining!buck – eddie takes charge

it's just the thought of you and what I leave behind (T, 6.4k) | ao3

As the cruise ship starts to sink, Bobby and Athena aren’t the only ones in desperate need of saving. The 118 goes on a high-risk mission and a close call brings Buck and Eddie together.

or: 7x03 reimagined

I let my guard down for a moment (M, 6.5k) | ao3

"It didn’t stop. Buck went from hoping the packages were from someone special to suspecting someone was toying with him. The hopeless romantic in him was slowly wilting. When he opened the latest letter, suddenly he was not so sure his secret admirer was of the good-natured kind. "

or: who needs police protection when you have eddie diaz by your side?

hold tight, you're slowly coming back to life (T, 3.1k) | ao3

Eddie runs into Natalia at the grocery store. He learns something about her and Buck’s breakup that gives him the final push to take care of his own complicated love life.

or: what if buck didn’t tell eddie the entire truth

how's your head? (haven't had any complaints) (M, 2.3k) | ao3

When he glanced over, Buck had already drifted off to sleep. He looked so innocent, Eddie almost couldn’t believe what had come out of his mouth mere seconds ago. Almost. Because he was 100 percent sure he’d heard it.

or: you can’t just make this kind of joke and forget about it

rose-colored boy (T, 1.6k) | ao3

Buck is draped across an armchair, rambling about rosefinches and Eddie just can’t help himself. In some kind of out-of-body experience, he gives his best friend a completely casual, meaningless (lie!) forehead kiss.

or: yes, another accidental kiss fic because I don’t think there can ever be enough

we should be at the club (E, 2.8k) | ao3

When Buck hears that Eddie has been going golfing to put himself out there, he offers to be his wingman. The world’s worst wingman. Although, to be fair, Eddie brings his best friend to the club and leaves with a new boyfriend.

or: just an excuse for them to wear tight pants and take them off

8 days a week (E, 6.3k) | ao3

A sweet moment of weakness helps Buck and Eddie get together. While Eddie doesn’t expect much to change about their relationship, Buck slips back into old patterns.

or: eddie notices all the ways buck tries to make himself smaller

don't blame me, love made me crazy (E, 1.6k) | ao3

Steam was fogging up the room and Eddie cursed inwardly. Was Buck trying to cook himself? Eddie wasn’t one for steaming hot showers but Buck ran cold even on his best days and this wasn’t one of those. He must’ve been desperate to warm up and soothe the pain his bruises were causing him. Eddie was suddenly very aware he was intruding on his best friend's privacy, even if he did need help, and decided to announce himself. “Buck, it’s me, I-“ He stopped in his tracks when Buck came into vision and met his gaze. Worry turned to lust quickly. Buck was hard. Incredibly so.

or: eddie joins buck in the shower (plot? what plot)

I only ever want you (E, 2.7k) | ao3

When a handsome guy flirts with Eddie, Buck can’t stand to watch. He leaves the 118’s bar outing in a hurry, only for Eddie to follow him to the loft and confront him. A misunderstanding of why Buck is so jealous leads to a confession – and more.

or: there’s jealousy, there’s fighting, there’s delicious makeup sex

love is stored in the picnic basket (T, 4.9k) | ao3

Buck participates in the 118’s basket bidding on Valentine’s Day and things go exactly as (Bobby) planned. When Eddie is done standing on the sidelines, he makes the grand gesture Buck has been dreaming of.

or: buck’s heart (um, picnic basket) is up for auction and eddie is ready to pay

whose peace are you keeping? (G, 3.9k) | ao3

Buck tells Eddie about the Buckley-Han family dinner and how odd it felt hearing his mother call him a “miracle baby”. Why can’t he trust his parents’ support when that’s all he’s ever wanted? He doesn’t know that Eddie lost his temper with them when they visited the firehouse two years ago. Now it’s time to come clean. A call that feels all too familiar interferes but a good night’s sleep brings them back on track.

or: it’s actually incredibly easy to love evan buckley – and eddie told his parents as much

my heart is trying to crawl out of my chest to get to you (G, 2.1k) | ao3

Buck is released from the hospital and while the rest of his family is understandably on edge about his recovery, Eddie throws himself back into work. He refuses to be a part of Maddie’s “operation buck up buttercup” and Hen grows suspicious. Listen, it’s not like Eddie isn’t worried, quite the opposite actually. He just found a better way to watch over Buck, without having to spill any of his secrets. Unless technology plays a trick on him, as it usually does, and his foolproof plan goes wrong. But Buck might just surprise him.

or: the one where eddie takes buck's recovery a little too seriously

and my attempts at rpf if you're into it:

dream each night of some version of you – ryliver (T, 1k)

closer than ever – ryliver (E, 2k)

if you made it to the end of this post, thank you so much for reading!

[itsactuallycorrine]

force

buddie; 1.1K words; eddie-centric angst; s08e06 spec

part 1 of the series

The call with the toddler in the well doesn’t trigger Eddie. 

It should. It should remind him of being buried alive, gasping for air, lost and alone, cut off from the people who mattered most. It should remind him of being taken from Christopher too soon. It should bring on a panic attack, or give him hives, or at least set him back on his heels a little. 

Or maybe it should inspire him, remind him why he fought so hard to escape last time, the strength of will he’d found thinking about Christopher and the family they’d built in LA. How he knew if he didn’t come back from that, Christopher would be alone, how he’d have to live with his grandparents and be raised like Eddie was—one of Eddie’s greatest fears. 

Instead all he feels is tired.

It’s been over four long, tough years since that first well call. In the engine on the way back to the station, he takes silent inventory of his life now, compares it to then, and while it’s different in many ways—it is different, he knows it is—it also drives home how little progress he’s made, no matter how hard he’s been trying. Like nothing has mattered, not almost dying at least twice, not trying to move on, not therapy. Nothing. 

He looks around at his team, his friends, and wonders what the hell is wrong with him. While he’s stagnated, Chim has lost and found Maddie, had a daughter, and gotten married. Hen has made it most of the way through med school and finally been able to add to her family. Bobby has struggled and persevered, found closure, and now he and Athena seem better than ever. Buck literally died and then had a whole sexuality revelation.

But Eddie? He’s still stuck there, frantically beating against the walls around him, crying out where no one can hear him, cut off from the most vital part of himself. Fighting a war of attrition against life and losing, losing, always losing. 

Hopelessness pulls at his limbs as he showers and changes into a fresh uniform, as he pours himself a cup of coffee, and smiles and laughs in all the right places while the team bustles around him. He knows this feeling, knows how seductive it can be to give up. He’s been resisting its siren song all summer. He flirted with the edge of this despair not even three years ago. If it hadn’t been for how bad he’d scared Christopher…

But Christopher isn’t there anymore to call Buck when Eddie can’t find his own way back. He can’t depend on Chris to ask for the help that Eddie can’t ask for himself. He has to learn how to ask, to say it himself. 

The words are on the tip of his tongue the rest of the shift. They crowd his mouth, pressed up tight against his teeth, and he aches to loosen his jaw and let them go. Instead, he bites down. 

In the end, it doesn’t matter.

They’re called out again. This one, a jumper on top of an office building, which just figures given Eddie’s current mental state.

Even better, they find out shortly that the jumper is going through a very messy, very contested divorce.

Eddie stands at the ready while Chim and Bobby confer with the almost ex-husband on the ground, trying to block out the sounds of Bobby and Athena working in tandem to talk the vic off the literal edge. Trying not to think about anything at all. 

A little gets through, though. It’d be impossible to keep it all out and do the job effectively. 

He hears Athena talking about how divorce doesn’t mean giving up, and it’s nothing to be ashamed of. He hears Bobby say how letting go can be a second chance at a life, a happiness you never knew was possible, even if you’ll always mourn what you’ve lost. He hears the ex-husband apologizing, saying, “I’ll always love you, even if it’s not in the same way, even if our marriage ended.”

And something within Eddie cracks wide open. 

He keeps it together as they bring the victim down unharmed, as they deflate the safety air cushion and pack up, as they wind down the shift and go their separate ways.

At home, with no one to hide from, he shatters. 

He thinks of Shannon telling him she wants a divorce, of the anger and hurt he packed away, buried beneath his grief. He thinks of that fucking letter again, the one she left Christopher, without leaving anything for him, any kind of clue of what he’d done wrong or why they couldn’t work it out.

He’s always tried to be so fair to Shannon in death to make up for how he fell short while she was alive. Tried to make up for his parents’ scorn. Tried not to speak ill of her to Christopher, so he always remembers the mom who was there for him, the mom who made smores and surprised him on Christmas and read him stories at night.

But in being fair to Shannon, he wonders…he wonders if he hasn’t been a little unfair to himself, too. 

He’s allowed to be mad that she left him alone with Christopher while he was struggling with PTSD and recovering from his injuries.

He’s allowed to be mad that she didn’t reach out to him for three full years after leaving, that he had to take the initiative to bring her back into their lives.

He’s allowed to be hurt and confused that she came back into his life, fell back into his bed, and then asked him for a divorce when he wanted to recommit.

He’s allowed to be a little relieved about it, too, that she wanted out and asked him for a way, when he wouldn’t have, couldn’t have, and would’ve kept them encased in their mutual misery forever.

He’s allowed to see Shannon, their relationship, in shades of gray—they were both right and they were both wrong, and they were kids and they were both forced to grow up too soon, and they made a beautiful miracle together but they both ran from it, from him. 

Eddie sits on the floor of his living room, head hanging between his knees, and he lets it all go, lets it roll through him, sobs shaking his body, until he’s heaving.

“Eddie?” he hears, and doesn’t try to hide as Buck drops down beside him. He hadn’t even heard the front door and there is no Christopher to make the call, but somehow it doesn’t surprise Eddie that Buck just…knows to be there.

Bucks wraps an arm around his shoulders, not saying a word, not asking a single question. Eddie does what he never would’ve done before. He reaches up and grabs Buck’s arm, pulling his embrace tight, a silent and shameless plea for comfort, for care. Stay.

Buck presses his face to the top of Eddie’s head, nods, and lets Eddie cry himself hoarse.

ao3

[skarkkk]

First,

Sparks.

I liked him at first, he seemed cute and really cool, his adoration for Athena (God knows she's amazing and deserves it), but then she said she was wary of him, and he never makes mistakes, so the feeling changed. And I understand wanting to feel powerful with a bad childhood, but he crossed the line. Even if his intentions weren't that, he crossed the line. He became unnecessarily aggressive with that woman, he shot her in front of her daughter and traumatized a child because he was hot-headed and because he wasn't prepared or made for the streets. I don't want and I don't care if he appears on screen again, but I think this statement is unnecessary.

Second,

Brad.

I said the first time he showed up that there was something strange, and then I started to like him, but he's a jerk? I don't know what's going on, but yes, that rudeness to the attendant and then not even an apology was completely unnecessary. Addendum, he really has something going on with Bobby and not just appreciation.

Third,

Maddie. Maddie and Chim. Maddie and Buck. All of them.

How careful they are this time and I imagine how Chim would be so much more alert compared to how he was when Jee was pregnant. And that this is sad but cute and that I want Jee as a big sister and all those family feelings. Since Buck knows his own sister and since the three of them (and Jee, obviously) are already a family like that, I loved their hug and I need Uncle Buck to be even more concerned.

Fourth,

Gerrard.

My god, he was so miserable in this episode and I loved it. "The first job I'm happy with" and how it's almost atonement. He's a giant fucking asshole and that's it, Brad is his karma, which he deserves. Him begging and hugging Bobby? And crying? My sadistic side loved it, but I don't want the focus on him, or this, or their feelings or the boss because that would bring more complications that would take up screen time for more important things.

Fifth,

Everything.

Eddie and Hen's cute banter with Buck at the station. Eddie's smile, and how I still haven't gotten used to him without his mustache. Buck as a cook and Jee being the best girl to him because he's such a girl dad and the best uncle. The really cool thing with the little thief guy there who looked like a hacker and how the beginning reminded me a lot of S.W.A.T (the one with Sherman Moore). Athena looking amazing arresting those goons and then running after the boss.

Sixth,

the romance.

Buck being attached and wanting to talk to Tommy is cute, that whole doubt thing and "should I talk to him?" and "he wanted to talk to me!?", but it passed. I don't know if Tommy's texting was something that will pass or if it's intentional for the next episode (I'm pretty sure it's not) but I'm afraid it won't go as far as I want it to. Buddie. As a fan, who has endured eight seasons, I'm not going to give up now, especially with such strong signs. "Maybe the universe will bring you someone special"/"It's like the universe is screaming at you and you don't hear it" and all the other episodes, hopes are higher than ever, but what if? It's the last season, I want them to work on Eddie's Catholic guilt, and the fact that they are like Michael and David. M/C meeting in the elevator, the look at each other and the smile reminds me of the elevator scene with Buck and Eddie "well, at least it's not a tsunami" because the look is the same. 911 is a great show, but with how unpredictable it is, with these conversations coming straight from ao3, I don't even know what to expect regarding Buddie. Will they accidentally get together and get married in Vegas? Will Chris be like "you didn't get with a woman because you already have Buck"? Because of Bobby? Because I feel like a lot could happen because of Maddie and Chim.

Seventh,

Hen and Athena.

Their scenes are always amazing, and how Hen always encourages her to follow her instincts and how best friends they are.

Eighth,

Not about this episode in particular, but where the hell is Ravi? Looking back, they bring in a half-baked Hollywood actor with a sort of Pavlov crush on Bobby and the problematic LAPD rookie, but not Ravi? Not the guy who appeared in the family scenes in the 118? Not after the whole Chim being sent to the academy to bring their boy home? Not about how he's already part of the family? About how he was accepted so much more quickly and naturally into the family compared to Jonah (and what a terrible ending) or, even saying, Lucy? I don't know why Anirudh didn't come back for this season, but I want him. For the love of god, he was at Maddie and Chim's wedding, THEY ARE FAMILY, in one analysis he is a younger brother to Chim, much more emotionally stable than the Han's or Buckley's and still, with a past involving cancer, and living in a hospital, and probably racial issues, and that headcanon I saw on tiktok of him switching shifts so as not to get so attached because he lived in the hospital and probably lost several friends to cancer. He was at the bachelor party, he was at the awards, he has the people, we want him back, so Ryan, where is he? Where is fireman Panikkar who certainly thinks Bobby is Buck's father (we ignore the existence of Margareth and Philipe)? Who must think Eddie and Buck have already divorced, and that he didn't know who Tommy is and that now he will be confused because how come Tommy has already left? And how come Eddie played Freddy Mercury? He totally would have dressed up as something scary in the Halloween episode, he definitely would have gone all out with the Billy Bubbles thing, he definitely passes along every bit of gossip to every shift about every shift because he's their King. So where's our King?

And why do I always fall in love with characters who get no screen time but angst?

Ninth,

I feel like ABC is doing something. We started with a plane (season 1/8), then we had the well (season 3), the man hanging from a rope on the ladder truck (season 6), and the preview for the next episode shows us car accidents (season 2/4) and the person drowning in the car that only reminds me of the tsunami - and now a little bit of Maddie's attempt (season 3/5). We're reliving important points for the characters, especially Buddie, and if we go in that order there's still a long way to go. There was a scene in this episode, on a street, that reminded me a lot of the one with the gunshot (season 4). If we go by that, we're missing 5, which I think would involve Maddie's pregnancy or Eddie's breakdown. If it's Eddie's, it also opens up for Buck discovering himself in 7 because Eddie has this whole Catholic thing, so discovering he's gay and freaking out is just like him. I don't know if it's intentional, but with 911 you never know.

[fiyaerrigan]

re: BuckTommy 8x06 and the Interviews

First point: I hesitate to say Oliver's response was biphobic

We don't know the man??? He could literally be bisexual (and guess what, it would be none of our damn business!) But within the context of "he has said he wanted change for his character and what he says in this recent interview directly contradicts that" I do have my gripes.

Second point: To me, the execution of this sucked.

Normally (as a resident Messy Bitch who likes seeing shit in her Complicated Fucked Up Life reflected in media) I live for drama and I live for narratives taking me wherever the wind takes them! but there was something so BLUNT and RAW about this that i cannot feel settled or satisfied with it (esp taking into account that, as noted before, this is a direct contradiction of what people IN the show have said they wanted for Buck) because it was SUCH a tonal shift from where they left off the previous episode.

I try to be gracious and remind myself that network TV has to deal with sudden changes that affect the way they go forward with planned storylines, but this was kinda ass, right down to the wire.

Assuming that it WASN'T a sudden change and that this *was* how they wanted everything to wrap up, I feel like it really could have been written with more consideration. It's one thing to pick up from where s7 left off and have their relationship in s8 be something along the lines of “we keep trying but it isnt working out” and then culminate in a breakup, but it's another entirely to break them up and...

Have Tommy's character interactions *still* be intertwined with Eddie (when it would have been more of a soft exit thing to treat Eddie's friendship in the same "implied presence" way they do with Hen and Chim rather than giving them scenes where Tommy and Eddie interact directly) as recently as the previous episode. Like at that point you've established an additional relationship for the guest character to have with the main cast, and given that relationship more recent screentime than any of his previous friendships, which THEN makes his departure have multiple fallouts to address

Have Buck be on the verge of a momentous confession when said breakup happens, because GOD that just hurts

From a writing perspective, you're leaving loose ends that are (imo) not going to really lead viewers to sit well with the story going forward?

On a personal level, even if (by some miracle) we still end up with Buck in a queer relationship despite the looming storm for LGBT media in the US, I'm probably not gonna be able to look at whatever relationship happens after this without feeling some sort of sting. I'm all for writers planning out stuff to happen in advance, but they could have spelled out the end for Buck and Tommy in SO MANY ways that would have been less bitter.

Like, fuck. Even if it WAS a sudden change, there are ways that this COULD have worked decently even *with* a single episode to wrap up the BT relationship.

You could have Put Tommy On A Bus for [insert serious reason that Buck can't argue with] here and that (at the very least) would soften the blow bc at least the loose ends are explained by "oh, *no one* who's close with this character is able to interact with them" and that would have hurt slightly less?

You could have killed Tommy off and that would have been INFINITELY better than this IMO because at least sudden death seems more realistic an ending (as far as the weewooverse is concerned) compared to "these two characters break up but somehow we're supposed to forget that he's also friends w his ex's bff and there are Ramifications (tm)."

Hell, I'm not big on Buddie but it could have brought Eddie and Buck closer via grief bonding, if that's what the writers wanted? idefk.

Overall, this Sucks.

I'm gonna try to stop looking at my weewoo tags for the time being and focus on stuff that brings me joy (like content from old fandoms where I Haven't Been Hurt Yet lol) and spend some time away from the show for a bit.

Honestly, for me, s8's main sticking points were the BT relationship and whatever the fuck those two had going on with Eddie. My personal sticking points for the entire series (found family vs. blood family juxtaposition, breaking the cycle, and group hijinks) don't seem to be the focus in s8 thus far so I'm not too keen on watching the show as intensely as I have been, going forward. Hit me up if they bring Chris back or if the 8x06 interviews are smoke and mirrors (though I don't think they are) but otherwise I'm gonna go back to weewoo-ing through dashboard osmosis.

I still have BT and weewoo plotbunnies in my drafts, and I don't see myself abandoning those completely! I think, after some time, I see myself coming back to that creative space, even if I'm not following canon super closely. Of course, my ass never finishes anything, so whether I finish and post those WIPS is another thing entirely.

Peace out, friends?

[qartanay]

as someone who is very invested in staying out of fandom hating, i just focus on speculation for the current main storyline which is the bobby, chim, hen and Ravi emergency - theres so much fun to be had without getting into ships (or maybe look up some interesting rarepairs ifyou want some variety but don't want to leave the shipping sphere!) like theorising how they could get out alive, the different scenarios in which each character may or may not survive and how that affects the plot, and their miraculous escapes bc we Obviously Can't Kill A Main Character

also so much discourse in the 9-1-1 fandom is just... silly and irrelevant to anything - i like to treat the ship and the ship's fandom as different things entirely so it doens't ruin the viewing experiecne

Honestly, my main issue isn’t even about shipping anymore — I mostly don’t care about it at this point.

I’d probably even be fine, or even glad, if we don’t get Buddie canon at the end of the season.

But it’s not about shipping. I’m upset because my favorite character is once again being pushed to the background.

I’m criticizing the show for not giving proper storylines to Chimney and Hen either.

I'm criticizing the show because it feels like everything is always about Buck, so it's not like I'm crazy or mad because of Buddie, no.

And I would love to theorize about what’s going to happen, how they’ll survive the next episode, who’s going to die, who’s not — but we already saw the BTS. Like… the cast really needs to stop spoiling things if they want me to stay invested.

And the problem is that this NDE thing — it’s just repetitive. It keeps happening over and over again. There’s nothing interesting in it for me.

Someone recently counted how many NDEs the characters had. I think the comparison is obvious.

Even if we forget about Eddie for a second — even in this episode, it didn’t feel like a strong storyline for me, sorry. Like, they’re locked in a lab. The villain is cartoonish again. Everything feels super rushed. One dramatic scene, literally one a very clichéd line from Ravi.

I wish I could feel excited about this, but I just can’t make myself care. Sorry.

I wish they would move this storyline to the next season and develop it better. It's just not good timing.

At the same time, these episodes are kinda strong compared to season 7. Definitely better, because I could barely make it through that season.

Yes, I agree with you that many things in the fandom are just silly, and that's all, and it's not a big deal, yeah

[sugdendingle]

Heads up Buddie fandom some of the B*mmy stans are actively searching for our posts and tweets to leave harassing comments. When this happens the best thing you can do is block them. They’re looking for attention and they're trying to rile us up and mostly they're worried about their ship. If they weren’t they wouldn’t care this much that we don’t like their ship or what our opinions are. Think about how little we’re going to give a sh*t about them once Buddie is canon. They know their ship is on borrowed time, if Lou even comes back at all. The main reason they’re attacking us is because we represent the biggest threat to their ship and that’s Eddie and Buddie.

Don’t let whatever bs they try to throw at you upset you or make you doubt the fact that Buddie is happening. They can call us delusional as much as they want but they are seeing a version of a relationship that just doesn’t exist. They can try to say the same about us but we have 6 going on 7 years of development between Buck and Eddie. And while Buddie's relationship hasn't canonically moved into the realm of romantic yet they are definitely written has having a much deeper bond than just best friends. This is especially true when you compare them to Hen/Chim or Maddie/Josh or Athena/Hen, etc. None of those friendships behave the way Buddie ever has.

When I say B/T shippers are only seeing what they want to see it's because they have built that relationship up to be something way more serious than it is without any proof to back that up. Buck is literally only dating T*mmy they're not even in a committed relationship at this point and that was only reconfirmed more by that deleted scene. There is a part of them that has to look at everything that happened in s7, that deleted scene (which they originally thought was going to be Henren's seal of approval for the rs), Lou's radio silence and the SWAT rumours and they have to be worried. They might try to put on this front of certainty that their ship is endgame but it's clear from how defensive they get that they know it doesn't look good for their ship.

We honestly need to just ignore that part of fandom and keep spreading the love for Buddie. B*mmy fandom is simply a loud minority and there's no reason that fandom should be getting as much attention on social media as it sometimes does. We need to keep showing that there is still a huge active fan base for Buddie.

I know that since season 7 ended without any serious development for Buddie and Buck still with T*mmy a lot of you are worried Buddie might never happen and I get that. I was ready to give up on the show all together after season 6 but I'm telling you I've never been more certain than I am now that Buddie is happening. It's the most logical direction for these characters and it's where everything is telling us the story is going.

Remember that s7 was heavily focused on Bathena, Henren, and Buddie. For as much as B*mmy's act like their ship is so important (even constantly comparing it to the other main couples) that relationship has had very little development and screen time and even less pr. Which you'd think given how big Buck's coming out was they would have had tons but they didn't. They only even did one joint interview with Oliver and Lou and that was right at the end and they barely even talked about B/T. Meanwhile Ryan and Oliver did a bunch of interviews together and nearly every interview and article mentioned Buddie.

We need to stop looking at B/T as a threat to our ship because it's really not. I hate Buck in that relationship and I don't like T*mmy at all and the worst part has been the fans of that ship but T*mmy is only here to serve a purpose. He was there to be Buck's first male love interest and help Buck realize he could explore that part of himself. He's not here to be the great love of Buck's life. To be the person who gets Buck better than anyone else. That position has already been filled.

[graendoll]

I'm almost through season 6 of the queer EMT show and I have a couple of thoughts I really need to get off my chest.

Before I dive in I want to share an observation. It feels like there are two tiers of main ensemble cast and I'm basing this on the character development of each of them. Tier 1 feels like its Bobby, Buck and Maddie who have gone through the most dramatic character arcs, while tier 2 is Athena, Hen, and Eddie. I can't decide which group Chim is in tbh and this is hardly scientific so...

The point of all that is that everything else I'm going to say is based off my observation that Buck is more fleshed out and developed as a character than Eddie.

So now to the point!

First, Buck absolutely adores Eddie. Like is definitely 100% in love with the man. I'm only on episode 14 of season 6 so I haven't even gotten to the onscreen bi realization or the coming out scene outside of gifs on this here hell site. But currently, the way Buck looks at Eddie is so fucking heart eyed its ridiculous.

The hysteria when Eddie is in danger - the screaming at the mudslide, the absolute hard reboot at the shooting? Buck is completely beside himself at the idea of losing Eddie. He literally cries on Christopher's shoulder at the thought of losing him and Chris losing his dad.

This is not standard BFF behavior, I'm sorry.

And don't even get me started on the couch metaphor...I have too much to say about that to include it here.

But what I do want to talk about is the coma episode. Because I feel like that episode was a purposeful "no-homo" episode and here's why:

Buck is in an alternate universe and runs to Hen and Chim, sees Maddie and Bobby. But Eddie is literally just referenced once as "the angry guy" and his contribution to the entire episode is to bring Christopher to see Buck while hes unconscious. Which is weird!

Yes, Eddie rescued Buck and yes he tells the medical team to do better than their best, but compared to Buck literally hauling Eddie's limp body into an ambulance? It's a pretty vanilla response.

And then he doesn't show up in alternate Bucks reality. This is, i believe, one part writers trying to no homo the thing and one part writers implying that Eddie and Chris are a replacement for Bucks "real family" which undermines the entire guardian arc in a very weird way. So it definitely seems, during s6 at least, that Buddie was flat out not happening (again...I'm on e14 only).

So if Buck is in love with Eddie through narrative and acting choices (based on recent PR from Oliver S implying hes lowkey played Buck queer) where is Eddie at? What gives?

I'll tell you what gives.

Eddie is the most repressed motherfucker on the planet. Eddie goes to a call involving a vibrator getting stuck in a woman and he barely clocks that's what's happening.

This man has only had missionary sex for the purpose of baby making and it shows. I have definitely HC'd that Eddie is demi but he's also just locked down so tight. No wonder he spent a whole season beating the crap out of random strangers in illegal fights!

So, what's my point?

My POINT is this. Eddie may be queer underneath all that repression, but he has no idea. None. Zero. Zip. Eddie thinks he can't find a wife and mother for Christopher because he's BROKEN, not because he's maybe just not that into women.

And yes, Buck coming out might give him a clue. Tommy being gay might show him something he hasn't really seen in terms of what a gay man looks like. But that Catholic guilt ridden man has a LONG way to go before he will confess to the fact that he wifed up his bisexual BFF because of non-platonic reasons.

We'll see how the story pans out. But anyone who thinks season 7 is going to end in a Buddie romance is likely incredibly wrong. I mean I haven't seen the episodes yet. So give me a week. But it seems unlikely. Eddie's character is in a very different place than Buck.

Doesn't mean these two don't live together in marital bliss rent free in my head though ���

[tarlosloverrofa]

I would like to discuss the issue of the occasional "mistakes made by Buck and Tommy during their breakup" in our community. English is not my native language, so this may be lengthy and there may be grammar or word errors.

Firstly, I hope we can reach a consensus - both of these individuals are both eager and foolish. This mistake was jointly caused by them.

Regarding their first breakup, I believe there has been ample discussion within the community. As for the clues given to us by the series, Tommy makes subjective assumptions, while Buck lacks understanding. They seem to be practicing 'don't ask, don't tell', immersed in pink bubbles. This bubble is bound to burst because neither of them has touched each other's core, they are just busy playing and showing each other their favorite side（they thought）

For second 'breakup' it's more complicated but more real.

Let's go back to 704, the beginning of the event. What happened in this episode? Without thinking clearly about himself, Buck injured Eddie's ankle just because he spent too much time with Tommy. This is Buck's jealousy. What was he thinking at that time? Did he have the idea that 'Eddie and Tommy have spent too much time together, does Tommy like Eddie?' Then Tommy kissed him, and his concerns dissipated.

Compared to 811. In a similar situation (Tommy expressed jealousy towards Eddie), Buck's reaction was that Eddie is a straight man. And said that even worse comment. Buck's concerns disappeared not because Tommy told him, 'Eddie is a straight man,' but because Tommy showed through his actions, 'The person I care about is you.'

As is well known, being a straight man does not prevent another person of the same sex from falling in love with him, and this is not a reassuring reason at all. And let's talk about a common example - chim and hen. Yes, they are good friends, one is heterosexual and the other is lesbian. But their friendship is fundamentally different from Buddie's (used here for convenience only) friendship.They are also never considered as a pair by anyone (familiar people, people met in the rescue or brothers and sisters). Chim and hen both have their own families, and they will not abandon their wives or children for each other, let alone let each other become the de facto parents of their children. But we have been watching Eddie treat Buck as Chris's surrogate mother for the past seven and a half years. This is not healthy for friendship, and unfortunately, this selfless effort is one-way. We haven't seen Eddie putting in much effort into Buck's personal troubles, and when things have nothing to do with himself or Chris, he becomes very picky about Buck.

In fact, in Tommy's eyes, this may mean that 'Buck and Eddie spent too much time together, and Buck cares a lot, while Eddie doesn't care so much'. This doesn't sound good.

We haven't seen how Buck supports Tommy on the TV show, but we have watched enough scenes of Buck supporting Eddie and Chris, to the point where many fan fiction authors embed Buddie as a "queer Platonic soulmate" into Buck's relationship with Tommy. In this dynamic, I don't think Tommy will feel any sense of security. If he is seriously considering this relationship, then he will think things like 'Who is important between Eddie and me?' 'Who is important compared to Chris for our future children?' 'Why is he always on call to Eddie?'

But it's not Buck's fault, in fact. This is Tim and his' buddie bait ''s fault. This interdependent dynamic is intentionally created, but when they want Buck to become an independent person who can have a relationship and his own family, the situation becomes awkward.

In my opinion, the bigger purpose of the second breakup was to get Tommy to propose Buddie and have Buck reject it. We even had a conversation at the end of 811 where Maddie supported Buddie and Buck opposed it. In other words, this is more of a conflict needed for the development of the series rather than themselves. But we can get the screenwriter's logic in weaving this conflict from it.

[eddiewasinthearmy]

okay does anyone think the baking is supposed to be a buddie metaphor hear me out...

so first i want to say cooking ≠ baking. at the end of season 7 bobby says "my work here is done" about teaching buck to cook (among other things we dont have to get into). later he clarifies that buck has grown a lot since s1, and buck has learned what he needs to from bobby. which implies whatever the next step is, maybe buck needs to figure that out on his own, because hes completed his growth under bobby (<- not necessarily a bucknalysis I agree with, but what I think the show might be trying to say). buck and bobby dont need to talk about tommy (lol), a general statement that could imply they dont need to talk about this next journey buck is going on. and then buck says thanks for everything... its a goodbye, or an ending to something. which obviously bobby is suicidal here, but buck doesn't know this. so, the scene ends as a closure on what bobby can teach buck about life/cooking for both parties. And then buck is (implied) about to go see tommy, when kim shows up with brownies, which lead him to eddie instead. important that kim did the baking here, not buck, because buck hasnt started on his baking journey/journey towards eddie quite yet. but it does show that the baked goods lead him away from tommy and put him on the path to eddie.

okay and then we get to 8x07. since when are you baking buck.. well since tommy dumped him. because he needs a distraction from tommy. which is funny because we now know that on some level tommy was buck's distraction from eddie. anyway i think its a bit of a red herring... the baking is not about tommy, its about getting over tommy so buck can move onto his last. Other pointed comments in this scene include: maybe you should start thinking about whats next instead of whats past. i think you have to trust the universe is going to bring you a special person. okay so we are linking these comments with baking symbolism... the baking is possibly about whats next. the baking is potentially linked to his special person thats waiting for him out there. and then at the end of this episode, maddie says jee is the special person, as a place holder until buck knows who the actual special person is, because buck isnt ready to look for romance again yet. and then buck and the special person bake together!! also should point out that chim and maddie call the coping mechanism healthy. also the scene at the fire house bobby calls the baking healthy again by comparing it to AA. when buck almost gives in and calls tommy, eddie takes the phone away, and hen and eddie keep the phone away. everyone thinks calling tommy = unhealthy, baking (or the road to eddie) = healthy. lmao. okay and then ALSO this episode. hes making 3 different kinds of loaf. hes making 3 different kinds of cookies. he is baking meals and deserts, savoury and sweet (which you can draw your own metaphors from if you want to). he doesnt know what pond to jump back into. this shows that buck doesnt really know what he wants... which is literally what buck said about tommy and their relationship in 7x05. :) but buck has started baking, so hes on the path to figuring out what he wants...

and then 8x08!! okay. buck almost called tommy and then he baked everything in his house until there was nothing left, at which point he went to eddie's instead of like. the store like a normal person. another instance of baking moving buck away from tommy and towards eddie. and his basket is full of baked goods, so it seems he has picked a lane re: meals vs baked goods (i.e. bread/scones/muffins). and then ALSO here eddie says this is actually pretty good buck! which 1. indicates the baking was not great before then and also 2. supports the chim i love loaf/grimace and him baking a bunch of stuff maddie can't eat (the baking was bad to start off basically). but buck is improving at the baking as he moves closer to eddie. also note that eddie specifically is used to signify the change from bad -> edible. and then he says for the scones, hes been softening the butter instead of melting it. so its still wrong, but soft butter is closer to correct than melted butter. he is on a journey to cold butter/applying the ingredients correctly or whatever. I've never even made scones before and I know this so this is probably the most blatant part of the baking metaphor. (and also if you want to believe the metaphor extends to eddie.... this butter information is prompted by eddie asking buck what's your secret? while he roots around in the basket of baked goods. the basket of baked goods that is supposed to represent buck's journey to eddie, which he brought to eddie's house in the scene that kicks off the arc of buck moving in there. and eddie is digging around in there trying to find something and asking buck what the secret is. and the secret is that buck and eddie are going to end up together and eddie is digging in that basket looking for something. okay...)

brief 8x09 mention. eddie's kitchen is not a chef's kitchen... but is it a baker's kitchen? well I guess it is now. because buck lives there :)

and then 8x10 is where it gets fun. because this is the first time we see the baking as a direct expression of love for an individual. obviously a lot of his baking to this point has been done with his loved ones in mind: the meal for madney and the meal at the firehouse and eddie's goodie basket. BUT the only instance in which the baked goods were personal was when he baked maddie the baked brie, which she couldn't even eat because she was pregnant and also isnt a baked good, which is the lane buck ended up following. and of course this shift in bucks baking, again, was marked by eddie specifically. shoutout kat pattibone, he baked the cookies for eddie to stay energized during his long drive, so he didn't have to rely on just coffees. additionally, hes making chocolate chip (protein) cookies, which are something he has made in the show with chris before, and he specifically asks eddie to save some for chris. whether an expression of how much he misses chris, or gifting eddie an olive branch for chris, the cookies are deeply deeply personal regarding buck’s relationships with both of them. and eddie is clearly touched by it he is soooo. i cant even describe it because eddie is never like that. endeared I guess. blushy. giddy. thats really thoughtful of you, thank you. LIKE. (and if you want to believe the metaphor extends to eddie again.... buck handing eddie his heart in the form of cookies and eddie being touched by it, to the point it drives him to be the thing that makes him Im really gonna miss you… he looks at the cookies and thinks Im really going to miss the way you love me). Anyway then the scene in which the baking gets personal like that is the scene in which eddie leaves potentially forever, and it kickstarts buck's feelings realization in a way, or at least transitions it from the moving arc to the feelings realization arc (i.e. the I dont know what Im going to do without him type look as eddie drives away).

then 8x11. buck is trying to move into eddie's house and can't, and so he avoids the house and brings the baking to maddie and chim's house. which reminder this is where jee yun, the person who is currently the stand in for the "special person", lives. and buck has his special person but they just left and hes looking to fill that void. and buck was thinking hes going to bake some banana muffins for breakfast. and jee loves bananas. so we're still following the trend of the baked goods being personal for the people he loves. and then buck sleeps with tommy, and establishes him as the distraction from eddie, or buck's feelings about eddie. and then in the last baking scene of the episode. buck is making some sort of banana bread, because "special person" jee loves bananas. and the whole conversation is about buck being in love with eddie. and what I think is really important here, is that buck says I should call [tommy] shouldn't I? because the whole baking thing started as a distraction from wanting to call tommy. but the baking now is neither aiding nor preventing him from calling tommy... its just a thing he could do, or could not do, and regardless he will still make some banana bread for jee and maddie and chim. (read: hes moved on from tommy, and is firmly in the space where his baking is reserved for his special person. eddie is inevitable etc). so, the baking isn't really a distraction from tommy anymore. we've cut the middle man here, and now the baking serves as a distraction from eddie, or a representation of buck's denial of his feelings. because he is still baking in maddie's house here, not eddie's. but in the baking scene he says he will call eddie. hes getting there.. baking is the path that leads to eddie!! seriously he is jogging down that path with increasing pace every episode right now.

okay AND going forward we know that buck is baking as an expression of love now, but we still dont know if he’s completely figured it out. eddie is still the only one thats complimented the baking. and buck hasnt completely figured out his feelings for eddie either. so that aspect might still be at play as well but that is mostly me inferring things

anyways that is all for now. oliver said the baking isnt going away yet. and if he was referencing 8x11 specifically or the season as a whole remains to be seen, and like it could just be about tommy and now that buck is over tommy he will never bake again or whatever. but I hope we get more because well. buck has not made scones with cold butter yet. :)

[vanpalmersgf]

Long rant ahead 💀

I agree with the autistic Tommy kinard!!! I hate the anti saying how Tommy is just a shitty character and not autistic and it’s ableist to claim he is. Then I’m like ??? So many people headcanon buck as adhd way before Oliver agreed and no one had a problem with that? I am audhd and I relate to both Tommy and buck. It’s like no one cna have a headcanon anymore. I have been a buddie fan since the very beginning and I am enjoying bucktommy! But…all these hateful buddie Stan’s are actually making me hate buddie .

Aside from this everyone abc post something the start posting homophobic stuff towards Tommy. Have started saying Tommy and Lou should just die. 😐

Last point is that, they don’t have any media comprehension skills. They both infantilize buck then turn around and claim bucktommys do that to him?? Buck has gone to therapy for so long and is actively working on his abandonment issues and trying not to hold people too tightly etc ei him apologizing for being a jerk to Eddie and Tommy, letting Chris go to Texas with his grandparents. He is just discovering being bi Tommy is more experience so it makes sense as well as him having familial connections to the 118 makes him a safe choice for now. Eddie runs away from all his problems and it’s not bucks responsibility to fix Eddie. Eddie hasn’t gone to therapy after that whole fiasco. He needs to work on himself first. If buddie were to happen it needs to be a place were to lines meet. While support is good sacrificing ones mental health for another partner is so bad.

Also the season was short. The cruise took a big part of the season as well as working the wedding then the bi Buck storyline and ending with an Eddie breakdown. Antis complain about bucktommy not getting so many scenes together etc. BFFR

The whole “TOMMY WAS TRYING TO GET WITH EDDIE FIRST” I hate. Can gay men not have friends?!?!? Crazy concept!! YOU CNA BE GAY AND HAVE FRIENDS Like Tommy reconnected with chim hen and Bobby and then met both buck and Eddie. Realized both Eddie and him had so much in common compared to the other at the 118. THEY CALL TOMMY A PREDATOR AS IF THAT ISNT SOME FUCKING WEIRD ASS HOMOPHOBIA. and then claim that people just wanna see to white guys kiss calling it a fetishizing.I AM A AUDHD HISPANIC BISEXUAL GUY WHO HAS A BRAIN PLS USE YOURS.

sorry but like I hate the 9-1-1 fandom so much now.

anon you speak the truth !!! 10/10 agree with everything you said. Truthfully I have nothing to add other than it’s nice to know that other people think the same as I do and the hate circulated in just a loud minority of viewers. <3 🚒

[lemotmo]

I’m so curious to see since we’ve now seen a still with Eddie next to Buck for tonight episode (it was either right before last weeks episode aired or right after) and now we’ve seen a still of Hen sitting with Chim for tonight’s episode

I’m so so so curious to see how Hen acts with Chim and how Eddie acts with Buck.

Will they both treat their respective as just best friends?

Will Eddie and Bucks be shown as something more as Eddie is there for him in contrast to Hen and Chim shown dealing with this as normal best friends?

The show loves to show those differences like when we saw how Chim interacted with Denny in season 6 in comparison to how Buck interacts with Chris etc.

So them having this chance to once again be like please see exhibit A (Hen and Chim) for how to properly respond to a crisis like normal friends and please see exhibit B (Buddie) for how to respond to the same crisis but ✨ gay ✨ might be to much for them to pass up 😂

That's actually an interesting question Nonny. 🤔

We'll have to be on the lookout for those scenes tonight and compare them closely.

Thank you for giving me some food for thought here.

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i want to be clear i am NOT a tommy stan and i want that man to choke

but i fear they may be right about the eddie being gerrard’s favorite thing especially after the mustache… like i really could see tim being stupid and petty enough to make eddie’s “mental health spiral” be him being super buddy buddy with gerrard and giving him his own like “lawsuit era” where everyone shuts him out… like it’d be so out of character but tim showed us in 7b that he doesn’t really care about writing eddie in character anymore so

i really hope it’s just a mustache and that it’s just an awful wardrobe choice but i can’t help but fear that it’s not gonna be a good thing like so many people are convincing themselves that it is… like i’m afraid people are just going to be set up for disappointment by comparing him to freddie mercury when the way the writers room treats eddie it’s very plausible that he WILL be the new sal… which i don’t want at all and i think it would be stupid of them to do that and honestly might result in me quitting the show but i could see them using it as some sort of “he was in a dark place” storyline and having him apologize later and then act like it never happened even though the bucktommy cultists are going to take that victory

So, I'm not 100% convinced the mustache is a reference to Freddie Mercury or even a sign that he's gay (but it would be hilarious if they spoiled a major storyline by this)

However, no matter how weird choices Eddie made in s7, I don't think he'd ever be buddy buddy with Gerrard. 1. They showed us in s2 how Eddie reacted to racists (the guy who refused care from Chim and Hen) 2. He punched out a guy for being ableist towards Chris, I don't think he'll tolerate Gerrard being racist towards his friends (and him, but I feel like he'd keep his mouth shut if only he was targeted) 3. Gerrard was always shown more racist than homophobic. If anything he'll probably tone down his homophobia and think Buck will stand behind him to protect himself (but like Buck won't do that, but Gerrard is only familiar with the ones like Tommy - actively participating in the bigoted behaviour- and Sal)

Also, Eddie being like Sal wouldn't be the worst. There is a slight confusion in the fandom, Sal wasn't that bad (but the bar is in hell so....). Sal wasn't even in Chimney Begins and made no comments towards Hen in Hen Begins. He was a passive figure in all, and def benefited from Gerrard's old boys club, but we never saw him actively participating. He only clashed with Bobby 'cause he thought someone from the Midwest in not equiped to run an LA firehouse and wanted to take charge so nobody will get hurt. So if Eddie really became like Sal, it would mean he's not doing anything against Gerrard, but not joining him either

And if the show has ANY sensitivity writers they will call out a storyline like that

I don't see any possibility of this happening, but if they really do this I might quit too