#ch 402

[lloydfrontera]

okay hold on shut up everyone shut up i have something to say

so it should be no news that i think the ending is bullshit. i think it's cheap as fuck that the solution to the resolution of fate is that lloyd came back in a different body and therefore the world had no problem with him coming back despite being previously hellbent on not allowing him to remain in it because of his status as a protagonist. like. i think that makes little to no sense and i think it's stupid. what do you mean fate is faceblind. that's the same fucking guy it's been trying to kill for almost five years now just because he now looks korean doesn't change that he's the one that disrupted the flow of the plot so hard he turned into an unauthorized main character. i think it's cheap and stupid and not that good of an explanation.

HOWEVER

i was just thinking about how it kinda sucked that the way the ending is structured means that javier was never really freed from the narrative. like yes his tragic fate changed and he's no longer beholden to the original plot of tkobai but he's still very much the protagonist. lloyd dying didn't free him from that role, it just meant that javier was now the only main character in the world and so fate was no longer gunning for him or his loved ones. but then i went and reread the way the jewel of truth described what would happen once one of them died and let the other as the sole protagonist.

[Once one of you disappears, the world will finally choose the remaining person as the rightful protagonist and perceive there to be no more error to fix. That is only when the incomplete reset plan to carry put the restoration of destiny will come to a halt and the story will develop around the existing hero.] -Ch 328: You or Me (3)

that last bit. the story will develop around the existing hero. once one of them disappeared fate would give up with the original story and just make a new one around the one protagonist that remained. which by the end of tged is javier.

javier. javier whose main priority at some point shifted towards keeping lloyd safe. whose main goal became keeping lloyd alive at almost any cost. this javier:

There was no more sign of life from the mischievous smile on the face of his lord. The young master he had sworn to serve breathed his last as his head dropped. He had died. "... No way." This wasn't supposed to happen. Javier was in disbelief. He refused to believe what he saw. This was not the ending he had desired. -Ch 398: Last Resort (3)

I never, ever thought once about life without Master Lloyd, not even right now. -Ch 400: Farewell (2)

this javier is the one the story is meant to develop around now that he's the only protagonist in the world. this javier is the one the plot is meant to be built around.

do you understand where i'm getting at

i think that it was javier's status as protagonist that allowed lloyd to come back without getting backlash from fate anymore. i think javier's resolve to keep lloyd safe, to have a life at his side, was what allowed destiny to accept lloyd back into a world that had rejected him before. i think that when the story tried to develop around javier "i never thought of a life without lloyd" asrahan it couldn't do it in a way that didn't include lloyd in it and so lloyd was allowed to come back without fate retaliating against him.

javier was the one that accidentally brought lloyd into his world, he was the one that purposefully brought him back to it and he was the one that unconsciously allowed him to remain in it. he's literally the reason that lloyd is there at all in any capacity.

do you get what i'm saying. i feel like i'm going crazy.

[sunflowercider]

Suho inadvertently calling the count and countess mother and father 🥺

[procuder]

yes honestly wished the it was done by someone else, i enjoyed it at first but it began to decline when the gag keeps repeating, i thought of not reading the novel at first but i am glad i did, because the novel was far deeper and more fleshed out. and reading the novel was more breathtaking and enjoyable

i was surprised that there were more sentimental and emotional moments in the novel and that just made my like for the webtoon to dwindle fast because the webtoon just cut and changed a lot of stuff

(if you do decide to do the railroad arc then yes 😭 because it became my favourite!) speaking of an ask here asked your favourite arc, but is there a least arc you didn't enjoy much?

you're so me. That's what I thought while reading the webnovel. And I was a little shocked at the time because there were so many details that were cut out. (without any explanation) Then it changed to something that was really, really bad.

Maybe I think we would have had a more positive reaction if they had given us an explanation as to why they made certain changes. Because to be honest, I can't think positively since they changed Arrosh's design because it 'wasn't funny' enough.

Well, let's not talking about it (I might end up wanting to bite someone)

And omg!?!? Another Railroad arc enjoyer?!? This made me very happy to discover that there were other people besides me who liked and praised this arc. Again, it really was an awesome arc. I think we could have a cup of tea and talk.

As for my least favorite arc. Hmmmmm... none? Personally, I enjoyed reading every arc because if there was anything I enjoyed the least, it would probably be specific chapters rather than the whole arc.

For me it would be episode 402. Yes, to be honest I'm still very sad that it's like bkmoon ended everything with Suho getting married. There wasn't even a conversation after Javier met Suho. If possible I'd like another 20 episodes of slow burn after he comes back lol

I mean...even the illustrations are of Javier and Suho. And many other reasons others have said before and I agree with them :D But to be honest, it's not like I enjoy the illustration of this chapter that much either. If possible, they should at least give us an actual wedding illustration like Julian and scherazade's or Arcos and Marbella's. It's a bit of a dilemma because the illustration of Javier and Suho laughing together is something I really like and love. But the opportunity didn't quite work out for me.

[thealiveshadow]

Horikoshi’s vendetta against blondes should be studied scientifically.

[everysuigetsu]

[every-chopper]

[the-storming-sea]

not all might using an exploding gauntlet and exploding AFO in midair, sacrificing himself in the process. this really is the bakugo move we've all been waiting for

[karmicpunishment]

[DISCUSSION OVER BNHA NEW LEAKS BEWARE OF POTENTIAL SPOILERS]

hello,

we have briefly conversed over fukuzawa being alive at the end of s5 and how we wished for allmight to survive. after seeing the new leaks of bnha, how do you feel?? cause after everything thats been hapening in jjk fandom, i dont think i can cope with this dilf dying on me.

crying sincerely,

doina

feeling AHHHHHHHH about it i don't want him to die but if this is how he goes out, i think i'd be suprisingly okay with it? the death flags have been flagging for a while with him, and i'd rather he go out like this, on his own terms and as the hero he's always been than some other way. (but really i Do Not Want him to die)

i think it also opens up the story to finally focus on deku v shigaraki again, which as been missing for a while, with literally everyone else dead, unconscious or busy elsewhere, so thats good (in terms of narrative)

[krisingtons]

Gonna go read Quirk Development Theories for the billionth time to cope with recent manga events. TT_TT ❤️❤️❤️❤️

I've said it before and I'll say it again: there is going to be a moment in the manga when we think that Nighteye's vision has come to pass, but it will *not* actually happen.

That time has come.

Manifesting my version so hard right now.

(I'm glad my fic can help you cope ❤️)

[not-mariahcarey]

I’m tearing up a lil

I don’t think we need a countdown to see if All Might is alive you guys…

[lloydfrontera]

i think my issues with the canon romance at the end can be summarized by that competition alicia holds to win lloyd's hand.

she's like 'oh your new body sucks you need to marry someone who can protect you 24/7' so she holds a tournament to find the strongest woman in the continent and marry him to her so he'll have built-in bodyguard. which is objectively the funniest thing she could've done i love her so much. but. like. it's so unnecessary, redundant and also just,,,, factually incorrect??? ajdhka god lemme explain

here's how alicia puts it

but,,,, lloyd already has a bodyguard who's at his side 24/7. like. that's very much a plot point of the entire novel. there's literally a character who's arc is about coming to care about lloyd above anything else and deciding to stay at his side for the rest of his life to protect him. like. that's very much a thing that happened. it literally takes us 320 chapters to get to that point why are you acting like you're doing something new here

a swordsmanship competition. to decide who gets to marry lloyd. remind me what character have we spent the entire novel being told and shown over and over and over again is the most powerful and strongest swordsman in literally the entire world???

right. but he can't participate. because he's not a woman. which i think it's the point to this rant.

i don't think i need to spell it out but i'm gonna anyway.

the only reason javier isn't the one to end up with lloyd is because he's a man. because even by the in-universe made up requirements he's the most qualified one to do so, except that he's not allowed to even participate because he's not a girl.

and y'know what's the extra thing that just. makes me go a little insane because it's the one detail that makes me doubt for one second that all of this wasn't just pure chance or coincidence and instead is bk moon taunting us. y'know what it is.

what character is the only one who canonically can and has passed for a woman with no issue whatsoever in a seemingly out of nowhere gag that never comes up again. do you remember.

right. yeah.

so we have,,, a character who is devoted to our main character and has sworn to protect him for the rest of his life with everything he has, who is the strongest swordsman in the entire world and who can easily pass for a woman.

and then the main character is supposed to marry whoever wins a competition to decide who gets to protect him for the rest of his life, who is the strongest swordsman in the country and where only women are allowed to participate.

and i'm not supposed to read anything into that.

okay. i feel like i'm going crazy this is me right now

but seriously. this little tidbit that was probably just meant to be a joke about how alicia came to marry lloyd just,,, really highlights how unnecessary and redundant their romance feels to me

like. why would lloyd need to marry alicia. when he already has javier.

do you get what i mean

[sunflowercider]

Me: -giggling and kicking my feet as Suho and Javier mercilessly tease each other-

Novel:

"Ugh. I really did not expect to be married off to Her Majesty without a chance to process anything, within two weeks after I returned."

Me:

[thealiveshadow]

Hey, don’t cry, Midoriya referring to his past, as his « tearful days »

I’m SO normal about this, so normal.

[everysuigetsu]

[every-chopper]

[the-storming-sea]

THATS MY DAD!!!!!!