#Ch: 402

[every-chopper]

[lloydfrontera]

okay hold on shut up everyone shut up i have something to say

so it should be no news that i think the ending is bullshit. i think it's cheap as fuck that the solution to the resolution of fate is that lloyd came back in a different body and therefore the world had no problem with him coming back despite being previously hellbent on not allowing him to remain in it because of his status as a protagonist. like. i think that makes little to no sense and i think it's stupid. what do you mean fate is faceblind. that's the same fucking guy it's been trying to kill for almost five years now just because he now looks korean doesn't change that he's the one that disrupted the flow of the plot so hard he turned into an unauthorized main character. i think it's cheap and stupid and not that good of an explanation.

HOWEVER

i was just thinking about how it kinda sucked that the way the ending is structured means that javier was never really freed from the narrative. like yes his tragic fate changed and he's no longer beholden to the original plot of tkobai but he's still very much the protagonist. lloyd dying didn't free him from that role, it just meant that javier was now the only main character in the world and so fate was no longer gunning for him or his loved ones. but then i went and reread the way the jewel of truth described what would happen once one of them died and let the other as the sole protagonist.

[Once one of you disappears, the world will finally choose the remaining person as the rightful protagonist and perceive there to be no more error to fix. That is only when the incomplete reset plan to carry put the restoration of destiny will come to a halt and the story will develop around the existing hero.] -Ch 328: You or Me (3)

that last bit. the story will develop around the existing hero. once one of them disappeared fate would give up with the original story and just make a new one around the one protagonist that remained. which by the end of tged is javier.

javier. javier whose main priority at some point shifted towards keeping lloyd safe. whose main goal became keeping lloyd alive at almost any cost. this javier:

There was no more sign of life from the mischievous smile on the face of his lord. The young master he had sworn to serve breathed his last as his head dropped. He had died. "... No way." This wasn't supposed to happen. Javier was in disbelief. He refused to believe what he saw. This was not the ending he had desired. -Ch 398: Last Resort (3)

I never, ever thought once about life without Master Lloyd, not even right now. -Ch 400: Farewell (2)

this javier is the one the story is meant to develop around now that he's the only protagonist in the world. this javier is the one the plot is meant to be built around.

do you understand where i'm getting at

i think that it was javier's status as protagonist that allowed lloyd to come back without getting backlash from fate anymore. i think javier's resolve to keep lloyd safe, to have a life at his side, was what allowed destiny to accept lloyd back into a world that had rejected him before. i think that when the story tried to develop around javier "i never thought of a life without lloyd" asrahan it couldn't do it in a way that didn't include lloyd in it and so lloyd was allowed to come back without fate retaliating against him.

javier was the one that accidentally brought lloyd into his world, he was the one that purposefully brought him back to it and he was the one that unconsciously allowed him to remain in it. he's literally the reason that lloyd is there at all in any capacity.

do you get what i'm saying. i feel like i'm going crazy.

[thealiveshadow]

Horikoshi’s vendetta against blondes should be studied scientifically.

[everysuigetsu]

[sunflowercider]

Suho inadvertently calling the count and countess mother and father 🥺

[the-storming-sea]

not all might using an exploding gauntlet and exploding AFO in midair, sacrificing himself in the process. this really is the bakugo move we've all been waiting for

[karmicpunishment]

[DISCUSSION OVER BNHA NEW LEAKS BEWARE OF POTENTIAL SPOILERS]

hello,

we have briefly conversed over fukuzawa being alive at the end of s5 and how we wished for allmight to survive. after seeing the new leaks of bnha, how do you feel?? cause after everything thats been hapening in jjk fandom, i dont think i can cope with this dilf dying on me.

crying sincerely,

doina

feeling AHHHHHHHH about it i don't want him to die but if this is how he goes out, i think i'd be suprisingly okay with it? the death flags have been flagging for a while with him, and i'd rather he go out like this, on his own terms and as the hero he's always been than some other way. (but really i Do Not Want him to die)

i think it also opens up the story to finally focus on deku v shigaraki again, which as been missing for a while, with literally everyone else dead, unconscious or busy elsewhere, so thats good (in terms of narrative)

[krisingtons]

Gonna go read Quirk Development Theories for the billionth time to cope with recent manga events. TT_TT ❤️❤️❤️❤️

I've said it before and I'll say it again: there is going to be a moment in the manga when we think that Nighteye's vision has come to pass, but it will *not* actually happen.

That time has come.

Manifesting my version so hard right now.

(I'm glad my fic can help you cope ❤️)

[procuder]

yes honestly wished the it was done by someone else, i enjoyed it at first but it began to decline when the gag keeps repeating, i thought of not reading the novel at first but i am glad i did, because the novel was far deeper and more fleshed out. and reading the novel was more breathtaking and enjoyable

i was surprised that there were more sentimental and emotional moments in the novel and that just made my like for the webtoon to dwindle fast because the webtoon just cut and changed a lot of stuff

(if you do decide to do the railroad arc then yes 😭 because it became my favourite!) speaking of an ask here asked your favourite arc, but is there a least arc you didn't enjoy much?

you're so me. That's what I thought while reading the webnovel. And I was a little shocked at the time because there were so many details that were cut out. (without any explanation) Then it changed to something that was really, really bad.

Maybe I think we would have had a more positive reaction if they had given us an explanation as to why they made certain changes. Because to be honest, I can't think positively since they changed Arrosh's design because it 'wasn't funny' enough.

Well, let's not talking about it (I might end up wanting to bite someone)

And omg!?!? Another Railroad arc enjoyer?!? This made me very happy to discover that there were other people besides me who liked and praised this arc. Again, it really was an awesome arc. I think we could have a cup of tea and talk.

As for my least favorite arc. Hmmmmm... none? Personally, I enjoyed reading every arc because if there was anything I enjoyed the least, it would probably be specific chapters rather than the whole arc.

For me it would be episode 402. Yes, to be honest I'm still very sad that it's like bkmoon ended everything with Suho getting married. There wasn't even a conversation after Javier met Suho. If possible I'd like another 20 episodes of slow burn after he comes back lol

I mean...even the illustrations are of Javier and Suho. And many other reasons others have said before and I agree with them :D But to be honest, it's not like I enjoy the illustration of this chapter that much either. If possible, they should at least give us an actual wedding illustration like Julian and scherazade's or Arcos and Marbella's. It's a bit of a dilemma because the illustration of Javier and Suho laughing together is something I really like and love. But the opportunity didn't quite work out for me.

[not-mariahcarey]

I’m tearing up a lil

I don’t think we need a countdown to see if All Might is alive you guys…

[every-chopper]

[lloydfrontera]

i don't buy that lloyd would get over his fear of the restoration of fate that quickly. he was doomed by the narrative for years and now he's supposed to shake it off in less than two weeks? absolutely not, he literally tried to kill himself in order to avoid it, ain't no fucking way he just stopped being scared about it in a couple days i don't believe it

anyway. this is my way of saying that lloyd refused to cross dimensions until he made javier swear that he would kill him with his own hands if there was even a hint of the restoration of fate starting up again. he wouldn't consider going back if it meant putting his family and home in danger again even if it meant being left behind in a place he would've rather died than stay at.

and they both know that javier would fall on his own sword before hurting lloyd but they also know lloyd would take his own life before allowing him to do that or to let his existence put his loved ones in danger again. they know lloyd doesn't really need javier to kill himself, not if he's really committed to it. he's done it before it after all.

him asking javier this is. a warning. of what he's planning to do if the restoration of fate starts again. it's his way of telling javier that he cannot promise things will be okay if he comes back. that he must be ready to lose lloyd again if necessary because lloyd won't allow anything else.

it's also maybe... an indulgence on lloyd's part. he's felt himself die so many times now. and so many of his deaths were painful or terrifying or surrounded by his enemies and sometimes all three at once.

but he remembers a sunset, a coat over his shoulders, shaky yet reliable hands holding a sword. a quick, peaceful death on his own terms, done by someone lloyd trusted with something far more important than his life.

and he knows it's selfish, he knows it's cruel, but if he has to die, for real this time, can't it be at the hands of his best friend? if he has to be killed, can't it be done by someone lloyd knows cares for him? if he has to close his eyes and never open them again, can't the last thing he ever sees be the face of the person he loves enough to die for as many times as necessary?

and javier agrees because. what else can he do. he spent so long hoping lloyd would finally trust him enough to tell him what he was planning so javier could help him in anyway he was able to and now. now lloyd is asking this of him.

he desperately doesn't want to say 'yes'. but he cannot say 'no'.

what else can he do.

what's the point of being the most powerful human on the world if he can't even protect the one person he swore to protect above all things. what's the point of him if the only thing he can do is promise to kill his best friend because he has no other way to protect everything they've worked for.

how can he promise lloyd that everything will be okay, that things will work out, that if needed javier will die for him before letting anything happen to him, when he already failed before.

what else can he do

anyway. i don't think any amount of end spoilers and confessions to the jewel of truth are enough to soothe the terrified, paranoid and utterly traumatized part inside lloyd's chest that goes tight any time anything goes even remotely wrong for a good while. it takes a couple months, maybe a few years even, before lloyd stops going cold every time there's even a hint of trouble around him. before he stops reflexively looking to javier's sword to calm himself down whenever things don't go perfectly right in every way.

it takes a while. but it does happen. and things aren't perfect, that's not how life works, but they're good and even when they aren't, lloyd can finally face them and believe they're not his fault. that his existence is not an obstacle for the happiness of the people he loves.

[thealiveshadow]

Hey, don’t cry, Midoriya referring to his past, as his « tearful days »

I’m SO normal about this, so normal.

[everysuigetsu]

[sunflowercider]

Me: -giggling and kicking my feet as Suho and Javier mercilessly tease each other-

Novel:

"Ugh. I really did not expect to be married off to Her Majesty without a chance to process anything, within two weeks after I returned."

Me:

[the-storming-sea]

THATS MY DAD!!!!!!