#ceasar augustus

[raphael-angele]

Tummy Ache

Nico: *gets a tummy ache and raises his hand* Chiron: Yes, Mr. di Angelo? Nico: I have a tummy ache, I'd like to see the doctor. Octavian: A tummy ache? Nico: Yes, OcTavian. I have a tummy and it aches, ergo, tummy ache Octavian: Ergo? Nico: It's latin, OcTavian.

[wolframpant]

"My friend. My brother. Senator. General. Architect. Warrior. As long as this city stands on these hills, men will remember the name: Marcus Vipsanius Agrippa."

[arttsuka]

apparently the statue head in the pompeii scene was also the same guy as octavius? funny how he got to meet himself lmao.

imagine if they helped him get around on a roomba

Ummm ☝️🤓 actually I think our Octavius is supposed to be Gaius Octavius and the statue head is Augustus Ceasar (aka his son which makes this 100 times funnier imo)

Here's a closeup photo from the movie (I couldn't find a better picture but you can kinda make out that it says 'Augustus Ceasar' and then something else I couldn't decipher).

Also here's a photo from Wikipedia

[chaberkowepole]

My hand slipped

Bonus:

[laikaru]

Nero as Antigone 🩸

[vickydean]

i love him but why is he standing like that?

Augustus Caesar. Roman. Pergamon museum. Berlin.

http://hadrian6.tumblr.com

[internal-ethics]

hashirama and madara is not the romeo and juliet of naruto. no one is.

madara and izuna is the romeo and juliet at second glances. or rather, the mark anthony and cleopatra of naruto.

izuna is cleopatra. the senju is the romans who conquered them, conquered her, and drives her up into a corner of defeat and suicide.

hashirama and tobirama together are octavian and julius, in other words, traits of augustus and julius ceasars are fairly exchanged in the brothers. hashirama has the status and power of julius but the cunning tactics of octavian. tobirama has augustus' bearings but caesar's war savvy and thundergodlike thorough influence. the senju and their people reigned supreme and made uchiha their egypt in a way.

madara is mark anthony or a twisted version of him. the uchiha/egypt lost in real times but their image haunts the romans. the only difference is izunas mark anthony never had enough decency and honor to die with him, disregarded his wishes, went gay for ceasar and delusional about his life, betrayed both his rome and egypt to pursue his own goals, and actively stayed alive to be a miserable war criminal.

[macrotiis]

Yea, Regan & Thatcher ruined a lot of things, but I think blaming them for everything is a bit much. We need to go further back. The real cause of all our current woes is the fucking romans.

[sinjones]

[wintearys]

i'm really trying to get into fourth wing but damn its. . .difficult.

[therealaugustus]

Novus stilus collectoris! Gratia pollentia Caesar!

[peggy-sue-reads-a-book]

Virgil: *sigh* This is Caesar Augustus, isn’t it? You have to stop sending me these. It’s fucking weird.

#asks #cringeworthy

Anon: Hi, Virgil,

srry if ur busy but I rlly stan Aeneas??? Like from Homer?? Anw, I’m interested in any HCs u might have but also if u could do like an hurt/no comfort plot and like a LOT of angst and like a little cameo of wut happened to Andromache after the war and 👉👈 I kinda think their could be some body horror content like maybe with some weird trees?? Ngl, I rlly like this idea but I’m embarrassed and can’t write. I just wanna feel smthng?? Idk I like angst. Sue me.

Deadass tho, I will Venmo u if u can do it.

[charlesoberonn]

So, what now when Ceasar is dead?

Caesar 2: Augustus Boogaloo

[crunchycrystals]

reading the you you are and oh my god this is the best show in the world. they somehow captured the exact vibe of the snippets of the book we got in the show. im going "hey wait thats kind of an interesting idea" and then i start cackling loudly when i read the phrase "augustus ceasar, the inventor of democracy"

[blueiscoool]

A ROMAN BRONZE SPHINX CIRCA 1ST CENTURY B.C. - 1ST CENTURY A.D.

Representations of sphinxes are known in Egyptian, Greek and Roman art, from the Great Sphinx in Giza dating the 4th Dynasty to diminutive 3rd Century Roman intaglios: it was a popular subject matter. Originally the sphinx was an Egyptian invention - the term comes from the Egyptian shepesankh or 'living statue', combining a human head with the body of a lion. In Egyptian times they were seen as protectors of temples and sanctuaries or as an image of royalty with the face of the Pharaoh. This Roman bronze however, is a more sensuous winged representation, seated and pushing back on her front legs with her body raised and head thrown back, her breasts are visible and her ribcage beneath. The details of her hair and wings are finely incised.

The dating of this bronze sphinx suggests that she would have been made during the rule of Augustus, whose seal ring, that he had inherited from his adoptive father, Julius Ceasar, depicted a sphinx. Augustus also employed the device of a seated sphinx on some of his coins minted circa 20 B.C.

[mamuzzy]

-- HEIL CEASAR --

A history and media blurb and educational rant from Mamuzzy

Contents:

-- Heil Cézár!!! -- -- 'Allo 'Allo -- -- What is the Roman Salute? -- Why the nazi salute associated to the Romans? -- Mussolini and the statue of Emperor Augustus -- The Bellamy Salute -- -- Modern nazis are spineless cowards --

-- HEIL CÉZÁR!!! --

You know, one reason that Life of Brian hungarian DUB is genius because they didn't translate the line "hail Ceasar".

They said instead: "HEIL CÉZÁR!" while saluting. With the german HEIL. We knew exactly that this salute+greeting refered to Hitler.

But know this, we - the audience - were also aware what role Hitler had in history, the first heil-ings in the movie already told us what we need to know about the romans: that they are not just antagonists, but straightout villains of the story (unless you were raised racist and antisemite). And let's be honest, romans weren't exactly the ones you want to praise.

*insert what did the romans gave us scene here.* *insert what nazi scientists gave to the modern medical science and at what cost here*

The thing is, I didn't find this joke when tried to look up among the english scenes. You know, among most quoted stuff and there are plenty of lines you quote from this movie to this day.

Are you saying that the centurions saying HEIL CEASER is a hungarian dub-specific joke???? O___O

The salute is at: 0:15

Romans had this greeting though which is the equivalent of Hail: it's the latin Ave. Ave is how they greeted important people, officials, or the Ceasars themselves.

Suetonius in his "Lives of the Caesars" recounts that gladiators in the arena would address the Roman emperor with the phrase, ‘Ave Caesar, morituri te salutant [Hail Caesar, those who are about to die salute you]’.

More under the cut

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-- 'ALLO 'ALLO --

It makes me wonder if british tv shows used some kind of watered down form of the actual nazi greeting UNLESS the actors and extras were shown FROM BEHIND. You know. Unrecognizable. The main characters of the show rarely seen extending their arms even if they were playing german officers themselves.

Same with the Life of Brian centurion salute which can be or not being the parody of a nazi salute.

I just really thought this is interesting.

-- WHAT IS THE ROMAN SALUTE? --

The thing is, that romans never used the same salutes what the nazis did. You just have to look at the nuances.

[THIS] <- is actually a very good article about various greeting forms of the romans, but nothing were about the whole arm extended in staight line in that angle while the palm looking down.

But here are some examples from the Column of Traian which is also mentioned in the article.

-- WHY THE NAZI SALUTE ASSOCIATED TO THE ROMANS?--

What we actually know about "Nazi Roman Salute", THE ONE that is associated with fascism and nazis comes from this painting. Oath of Horatii by Jacques-Louis David and it become a very popular hand sign in neoclassicits artworks depicting Roman Culture.

Know that Hitler and his bunch were history-nerds and art-nerds, but the worst kind: their cherry picked the things they liked about other cultures and incorporated them into their belief system. The more grandious history the country had with conquest and being a giant empire in the past, the more they went into fanboy mode. They hunted relics from the past too that was associated to the romans and everything that could have been used as a tool of propaganda.

The Nazi party first and foremost wanted to find proof that the germans are they indeed descendants of a superior race. The proof didn't have to be true or valid, it was enough if they could sell it as the only truth.

What I'm saying is, that the nazi salute is not resembling to the actual roman greatings. They got their greeting from an art piece which is not even made in its own time but in the 19th century. It's like when you are try to learn character lore from a fanart or a fanfic. It won't give full justice to the source.

-- MUSSOLINI AND THE STATUE OF EMPEROR AUGUSTUS --

Musk is getting tired of being called Hitler? You can still call him Mussolini.

People often go and mistake Augustus's handwave as a salute and originating the Roman Salute to him. But it turned out that the hand was repaired multiple times in the history. The original statue held a spear in his hand.

Benito Mussolini used Augustus as a symbol of fascism.

And later this hand gesture became popular in the Nazi Germany too.

-- THE BELLAMY SALUTE --

Got "Captain America is a hydra agent???" heart attack here?

You shouldn't. This is called Bellamy salute, or its other name: The flag salute. It was first used in 1892, USA, way before the fascist waves in Europe. They got the same idea like the nazis: the popular salute depiction of the Roman Empire, made by the Neo-classicist artists.

The Pledge of Alliance was written by Francis Bellamy but it was presented by James B. Upham, editor of The Youth's Companion.

At a signal from the Principal the pupils, in ordered ranks, hands to the side, face the Flag. Another signal is given; every pupil gives the flag the military salute – right hand lifted, palm downward, to align with the forehead and close to it. Standing thus, all repeat together, slowly, "I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands; one Nation indivisible, with Liberty and Justice for all." At the words, "to my Flag", the right hand is extended gracefully, palm upward, toward the Flag, and remains in this gesture till the end of the affirmation; whereupon all hands immediately drop to the side.

— The Youth's Companion, 65 (1892): 446.

This handsignal became controversial in the US due to the italian fascist and nazi germans started to use the very same handsign for saluting and eventually they banned it in fear that US will be associated with fascist values.

The fear had basis.

There were americans who were against participating in WW2 and to discredit such opposition movements, Pro-Intervention groups used photos of people doing the Bellamy salute to make it appear, they are one group with the german nazis. They took photos from angles where the American Flag could be easily edited out so people won't be able to tell they are saluting to the flag or just saluting like a nazi.

Sec. 5. That during the ceremony of hoisting or lowering the flag or when the flag is passing in a parade or in a review, all persons present should face the flag, stand at attention, and salute. Those present in uniform should render the right-hand salute. When not in uniform, men should remove the headdress with the right hand holding it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart. Men without hats merely stand at attention. Women should salute by placing the right hand over the heart. The salute to the flag in the moving column should be rendered at the moment the flag passes.

Public Law 77-623 by the 77th Congress of the United States Pub.L. 77−623, 56 Stat. 377, H.J.Res. 303, enacted June 22, 1942

-- MODERN NAZIS ARE SPINELESS COWARDS IN HIDING --

Elon Musk didn't even try to bring up the Bellamy salute as an excuse which could have been honestly a very believable excuse (still shitty and spineless) given the whole places was probably full of US flags. But I don't give him credit and trust that he knows US history this well.

But this phenomenon is not new to me. Our politicians do the very same: they are nazi saluting and when the public opinion becomes bad about them, they try to weasel out their way with shitty excuses, not even stepping up for their own values that the salute holds.

Currently what we see throughtout the world (and what I see in my own country), rightwingers/fascists/nazis trying to silence the voices that tells them: YOU SUCK.

They make themselves the oppressed group, but in fact they just can't handle the consequences that with their choosen values, they become human piece of trash. They can't bear that the public opinion turn against them.

So what do they do in this situation? What every dictator does: Accuse the enemy/opposition with the crimes you do.

"Nazis are enemies of the free-speech right? Queers, leftists, doctors, teachers minorities etc are hating us for having our own opinions, therefor they are against free-speech!!!"

I mean look at Russia. Accusing Ukrainians being nazis to justify their eradication and genocide. I mean, you wouldn't protect a nazi, right?

They don't have to come out as nazis because these assholes in high places will tell the definition of what it means being a nazi. And it will be:

nazi = EVERYONE WE HATE AND WHO IS AGAINST US.