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Suptober - Day 31 | Halloween / Costumes [x]

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Thank you all so much for the support during this years suptober! Things were a little different this year but I was still so happy to see so many posts and creative folk in the tag this year! I love this event so much and it was heartening to see many others love it as well.

See y’all next October and Happy Halloween! 🎃

[lillysilverus]

Does it still frustrate anyone else that Sam was villainized and ostracized for his mistakes but Dean was sympathized with and supported for his? I realize that Sam's were in the early days of the show when the story telling was still fresh and nuanced, but it's so blatant that they must have realized what they were doing when they had Sam and Castiel treating Dean like a victim rather than the perpetrator of his own bad choices.

[sammybeann]

I've been seeing a particular back and forth on the spn fandom side of tumblr regarding Wincest shippers, and though nobody asked, I'm voicing my opinion on the discourse.

The amount of time and energy people put into genuinely loathing those who enjoy a particular ship is astonishing.

To say people who enjoy Wincest are freaks, disgusting, and to even wish harm upon them is fucking WILD.

I'm unsure if anyone, especially Destiel shippers have got the memo, but they are ✨ fictional characters ✨

Enjoying the dynamic between brothers in a fictional sense doesn't mean shippers condone or practice incest in their day to day lives. Like wtf are you even smoking?

Castiel tortured Jimmy Novak, literally got him killed then continued to wear him as a meatsuit and y'all are wet at the prospect of Dean fucking the body of a man who didn't consent.

Tell me how that ship makes you any more moral that Wincest shippers.

People have real lives, families, friends, jobs, and to come on here, a site where people should be allowed to be themselves and enjoy their fandoms, and harp on how they're lesser than because you don't agree with them?

Fucking utterly pathetic, and I'm sorry you're so angry inside. Truly. Here's hoping for some personal growth from some of y'all.

[golby-moon]

this is probably the most annoying drawing I've ever made. I think the furniture came out okay for once but man at what cost and the poses make my brain ghffbfh

I did enjoy adding the designs to the clothes however, including Dean's socks which have little knives on them because he totally Would. either way as always, pray for Sam though given that the whole point of this comic (which I came up with the idea for months ago and proceeded to ignore it because it seemed annoying to make) was to explain the real reason why there are only two chairs in the Dean Cave, Sam kinda never had a chance tbh

(08/18/24)

[zer0expektation]

drawing sastiel bc everyone else has annoyed me

[prettyboysdontlookatexplosions]

something makes me feel really insane about seeing people act like gay stereotypes aren’t gender specific…. most recent example and what prompted this was seeing a g*yl*r comment on taylor’s “fruity wrist” in a picture from the first football excursion of the season but to be fair it is not uncommon on the internet, see e.g. jokes on this website about gays, gender neutral, being bad at sports. i don’t know why it bothers me so much except i guess it’s another example of people taking the gender out of gender which makes it pretty hard to do any kind of analysis of gender which we need to be able to do if we are ever to defeat the enemy (gender). like the wrist specifically is a stereotype/viewed as a “tell” bc it’s considered feminine…. what does it mean to even joke about a woman having a fruity wrist which is so gay of her…. like literally what……

[angst-is-love-angst-is-life]

Okay but as someone that has never seen supernatural, could climate change have saved Cas? Here's how:

Cas makes the deal that he'd be sent to Eeby Deeby Superhell or whatever the moment he felt genuinely happy, right? So, the second Castiel starts to feel happy, remind him that climate change is causing decreased biodiversity, droughts, and natural disasters.

Or tell him about feline AIDS. Get a random gen z kid to tell him about how we'll never be able to buy a house or a car because we can barely afford rent or food or health care. Tell him something, anything, that'll kinda bum him out.

Idk if that would actually work, but it's fanfic food for thought ig

No no, you’re on to something here

Especially if you tell him that bees are endangered (the fandom has decided Cas loves bees)

It would all make him very sad

Result

[fratricideknight]

Hi! (It's me again back to bother you with more spn questions) Are there any characters from spn that you didn't like that much or thought were overrated?

hello, beloved!! you aren't bothering me; i love your asks!

honestly, these days, i'm pretty chill regarding characters. i very rarely hate characters, i mostly just appreciate them for what they have to offer. i have favourites, of course, but i generally just accept characters as they are (and lament lost potential lol). so, i'm going to turn the question around and talk about how i think sam is massively overhated and underrated (only in the online fandom though; i'm pretty sure this isn't the case with the general audience). warning for an oncoming rant!

certain individuals' dislike of sam is at once incomprehensible to me and completely predictable. because i don’t understand how anyone could come to the logical conclusion that sam is boring, but i’m not at all surprised. i’m not saying they’re necessarily similar characters, but it’s kind of like people calling steve rogers from the mcu "bland" (my mcu knowledge is rusty forgive me if i say something stupid). like, no, you just hate optimists and nice people? you don’t have to like him, but don’t act like it’s not just a personal preference. funny thing is, sam and steve have something similar going on in their stories. both are good people who try to make the best of their circumstances: sam tries to use his demon blood “curse” for something good; steve tries to remain a force of good in a corrupt, grey world. and that’s interesting as hell!! unfortunately, both will always be overshadowed because they’re not smart-mouthed assholes (even though sam is sassy…) who default to treating people dickishly. and, worst of all, neither of them consider decapitation a good time and therefore cannot fulfil edgelord fantasies

ah yes, sam – no killing others (before resurrection in s2) even if it causes problems, monsters can be good and sexually attractive, veggie bacon but demon blood is acceptable on occasion, using evil powers for good, vessel of Satan who prays to God every day – winchester is uninteresting and boring, but a violent pessimist with daddy issues who kills monsters to unleash ✨️ the darkness inside ✨️ and a celestial being who doesn’t understand human customs or emotions or free will but comes to fight on the side of humanity are ground-breaking. i love dean and i like cas – i think they’re good, and i'm not saying this to throw hate at them – but acting like they’re amazing while sam sucks is just… really? people, regarding every form of media – music, films, books etc. etc. – conflate “shallow” with “not dark,” and i’m so tired of it

i have absolutely no issue with people preferring other characters for whatever reasons, or even for no real reason at all, but outright calling sam boring??! speaking on him with utterly tragically bad takes in an attempt to denigrate his name and proving only that you don't understand him at all?!? you are all tasteless imbeciles and should be ashamed of yourselves

[soultheories]

jack: would you still love me if i was a bug?

sam: of course, jack. no matter what, we're family

castiel: why would you be a bug?

dean: i don't even like you now

[kinard-buckley]

post-finale thoughts

I’ve spent roughly 35% of my life with Supernatural. I never went to any cons and I didn’t write much fanfic or produce a ton of art or gifsets, but I cared about the show. I was invested in the story and the characters. The characters of Sam and Dean opened up a world of monsters, magic, and mythology to me, invited me into it. The introduction of Castiel breathed new life into the show, and added new layers to it, refashioning the show and giving it new dimensions. It went from a “catch up after the season” show to “watch every week.”

The finale hurt because it didn’t feel like the endings Sam and Dean truly deserved. Even Castiel, whose story probably got the most cohesive conclusion of the original members of Team Free Will, deserved more. He got an emotional send-off and some semblance of closure, but never heard what he really needed to hear: that he wasn’t merely a weapon or a tool or a means to an end for the Winchesters. That he was loved by them. Dean’s story ends on a rusty piece of rebar, with Dean—after defeating God himself and reclaiming his story to write his own ending—insisting to his dying breath that dying young is always how his story always was meant to end, despite the fact he had a job application on his desk. Sam gets a somewhat kinder ending but it also still feels lacking; his wife is nameless and faceless, though I believe we’re meant to superimpose an image of Eileen, and we know nothing of his son except the fact his name is DEAN thanks to the embroidery on his overalls. We just get a hazy montage of Sam’s life, after Dean’s death, with nothing really concrete to latch onto. It felt both completely empty and overstuffed at the same time.

Honestly, the montage of Sam’s life really reminded me of the ending of How I Met Your Mother, as we skip from scene to scene in the montage and aren’t given time to process what we’re seeing. We don’t get to let Tracey’s death sit with us, she dies and then we get a time-skip where her family has moved on and are now pushing Ted to remarry; for the characters it’s been over five years since she died, but for the fans it’s been five minutes. And while we got about half an episode of Dean choking out a deathbed monologue, it still didn’t really feel like we got time to sit with it and process it. We don’t get to care about Sam’s family, we don’t get to care about any of it. And then he dies and reunites with Dean, like ten minutes after last seeing him. 

Maybe it would have worked better if they’d wrapped up both the season and series arcs in 19 and then used 20 to deal with the aftermath. Maybe it would have worked better if they’d had a couple more episodes to let Dean’s death resonate and to tie off loose ends, or pushed the restart back further. Who knows. I’m choosing to view the show as having ended with 15x19, which felt like the more complete, coherent ending. 

The finale just felt lacking. If the writers hadn’t provided enough wiggle room at the end with the implication that Cas helped Jack create Dean’s ideal heaven, and that Dean and Cas will be reunited, it might have left an even sourer aftertaste in my mouth. We’re left with the pens in our hands and a blank book, which I can accept.

As it stands, it’s a disjointed, uneven farewell to a sometimes disjointed, uneven series. It doesn’t ruin the 15-year run of the show for me, but it doesn’t exactly bring the peace that was promised in “Carry On My Wayward Son.” 

[soullessjack]

very very busy tomorrow and then for the next week so complimentary shitpost before I go to bed and begin my Sisyphus Rock journey (meeting my special guy and trying to be normal about it on vacation directly afterwards)

[clairenatural]

dean antis will cite dean's treatment of cas as the reason why he's terrible bad beyond saving & deserved death as if castiel himself didn't give an entire speech on why they're wrong

[themanwhowouldbefruit]

damn my gyno put in my case notes that i appear 9 months pregnant 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 girl help i thought i was only a 6 at most 😭😭😭😭

[wilsonthemoose]

Is there any (fannish) content you tend not to reblog? Conversely, is there anything you ALWAYS reblog?

I don't reblog nsfw content.

I'd also like to think I don't reblog character-bashing for the sake of character-bashing (talking about blatant hate, but I like discourse and meta of course). (I say this cautiously but I'm fairly certain of it).

I don't know if there's anything I always reblog. Gifs/screencaps from Plucky Pennywhistle's always make me happy, I tend to reblog those every time they cross my dash.

Anything that's interesting at the moment really. Gifs and edits by whim, fic rec lists quite often, head canons and meta when interesting to me.

[sastielsfandom]

Castiel keeping a tally on the Winchesters:

[goofyjelly]

i was, like, drawing actual stuff on the other end of this page, but this little cas doodle means more to me than whatever else I was drawing.