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Does it still frustrate anyone else that Sam was villainized and ostracized for his mistakes but Dean was sympathized with and supported for his? I realize that Sam's were in the early days of the show when the story telling was still fresh and nuanced, but it's so blatant that they must have realized what they were doing when they had Sam and Castiel treating Dean like a victim rather than the perpetrator of his own bad choices.
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Got in a dumb tiktok argument with someone over Dean's treatment of Jack and whether it was comparable to John, aand... at some point, their argument was "He treated him the same as Sam and Cas; Dean is brutal in his relationship with others..." and really just made the "it's ok he was cruel bc he is also cruel to the rest of his family" argument. Then later, when I tried to be kind and give the out of "I do think this was bad writing though," they literally insisted it wasn't bad writing and their way of proving it wasn't bad writing was... by listing several other examples of Dean being abusive to other teens/young adults like pointing the gun at Kayla. Literally just gave free examples of Dean being abusive in order to argue it was good writing, while arguing Dean was nothing like John and wasn't abusive.
#anti dean winchester#dean negative#Dean critical#I tried to be like “it's ok to like Dean as a character even if he did messed up stuff; you don't defend everything; it's ok” early on#They just did not take it
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Dean using Sam letting lucifer out and “losing his soul” as things he needs to repent for still raises my blood pressure he’s so nasty
#complaining about everything Sam does or e#even the things Sam didn’t do on purpose but then won’t let him die on his own terms either#dean negative
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Something about how Dean was WAY scarier when he was himself with the MoC (and frequently without it too) than when he was a literal demon (with the MoC) (who lets be honest was mostly just cringe). Idk. Telling.
#I'm doing a rewatch for podcast purposes (and also just me purposes)#but also just rewatching some random later seasons episodes just cause#and likkkkkkeeeee#tell me its not true#dean negative#i guess#spn
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I never watched the last, like, five seasons of Supernatural because I was eventually filled with too much rage, but I missed Sam, so I started rewatching a few older season episodes. I was never that into Mystery Spot, but getting to watch Sam be smart and intense and peak Sam at the same time as getting to watch Dean die repeatedly because he sucks? Love it.
I hear you, anon!
I actually loved Dean initially, right up until he punched Sam in 2x03 which immediately downgraded him to 'barely tolerable for Sam's sake'. After s4 and s5, he earned a special place in my imaginary hell and Mystery Spot became my comfort episode. And just when I thought he couldn't possibly get any worse, along came s8-s10. By the opening scene of Goodbye Stranger with all the dead Deans lying on the floor, my reaction was nothing but a satisfied warm fuzzy glow instead of the intended horror.
I will say that s11 is definitely worth watching because we finally, finally get back to some real brother moments (particularly Red Meat), and Dean becomes almost likeable again. Sam's interactions with Lucifer are the high points of the season and make it worth putting up with the Dean/Amara cringefest.
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Dean absolutely would have voted for Trump. He calls him the Trumpster gleefully in that one ep come on.
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Can I ask you about how you feel about dean? I’m a little confused if it’s more on the side of disliking him or just being critical of him. Im just genuinely curious because you ship Wincest and really like Sam, so I was wondering how your feelings on dean affect your like on Wincest.
sorry it took me so long; had to think this through but i still don't know how to answer that other than "it's complicated"
i think two things can be true at once
i'm not interested in dean. i hate his ass. i love it when he prays begging for sam's life. or when he orders angels around to fix sam
he's undeniably abusive
wincest still goes hard
at times because dean is abusive
#ask#anon#wincest#dean negative#seasons 9 & 10 broke something irrevocably and then s11 was just bad and i quit 2 episodes into s12#when it became clear there will never be any emotional payoff for the shit they've been putting sam through#it put me off wincest for years
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Fucking hate Season 8 rn, like, why is Sam the villain here??? Goddamn, the writers making me a Bitter Sam Girl.
Now, I'm confused about my feelings about Dean. On one hand, he pisses me off, on the other... no wait, he still pisses me off. I don't know what to say about him anymore. The things he says just make me so frustrated.
#supernatural#sam winchester#dean winchester#supernatural season 8 spoilers#dean negative#i guess#but like i dont mean to be negative#he just frustrates me#you know?#sam girls you get it#canon negative#???#i just remembered about this tag#but idk if it was crit or neg#oh well
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Huntercorp Dean not meeting Cas is a crime actually
He has Negative Charm by the way, the oppostie of how Dean is full of it - so his flirting game is abysmal. He's full of cheesy cringey one-liners that literally never work on anyone, but they go so wildly over Cas's head that they get his attention anyway and end up kind of working.
Cas walks in and Huntercorp Dean is like, "HELLO. Who is this???"
Regular Dean is immediately bristling. He recognises that tone and the way he's leaning back in his seat, clearly checking Cas out. "That's Castiel, he's an Angel."
"I'll say. Every time he looks at me I feel like I'm in Heaven."
Cas voice "Actually you can't get to Heaven from here..."
"Well they must be missing an angel cause you're right here."
"Ah. None of the other angels miss me. In fact I think they're quite glad I'm gone."
Huntercorp Dean winks. "Well you can stay here with me then, cause you're definitely answering all of my prayers right now."
"You're praying to me? I can't hear you." Cas goes a little bashful. "And that's nice of you to say, Dean. You know I try to be around as much as I can."
Now full of enthusiasm because his lines are WORKING Huntercorp Dean continues flirting with Cas with 0 awareness of how bad he is at it while Cas continues to be equal parts confused and endeared.
Meanwhile Regular Dean has his head in his hands wishing a portal would open up and take the other Dean away again.
#I think Huntercorp Dean would be such a loser#negative rizz as the kids say#destiel#huntercorp!dean#spn#jealous dean#(of himself)#destiel ficlet
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Can we all just agree that Dean is really bad at giving Sam motivational speeches?
Season 5 "Sam Interrupted"
Sam- "I'm really angry all the time."
Dean - "Suck it up and bury it. We don't have time for your issues."
Season 7 "Hello Cruel World"
Sam - " I don't know what's real! I'm having a breakdown!"
Dean - "Okay, I'm your real brother because I will kick your ass when I need to. Here's what you're going to do. Every time you see Lucifer, you're going to hurt yourself."
Season 8 "Sacrifice"
Sam - "You think I'm useless and can't do anything. I'm a terrible brother."
Dean - "Aw come on. Just because I said that a few times doesn't mean I actually wanted you to believe it."
There could be more but those are the ones I can remember.
#sam winchester#dean negative#just in case#this is just really an observation of the writing for Dean
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#dean negative#dean critical#to reference that post that's been going around#I forgot to post this when it was more relevant but then saw another post that referenced it and reminded me so bless them#anti dean winchester
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it's so sad how continuously sam is told in s5 by dean that he doesn't have faith in him, he's going to betray him somehow, this is all his fault, he can't save the world, he's a bad brother who doesn't care about their family, only for sam to single-handedly save the world because of his love for dean and sacrifice himself to an eternity of unimaginable torture
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DEAN WITHERS???
#dream situation#dream#mcyt#tommyinnit#dean withers#dream crashout#tommyinnit drama#discourse#dream neg#dream drama#dreamwastaken
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Suptober - Day 31 | Halloween / Costumes [x]
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Thank you all so much for the support during this years suptober! Things were a little different this year but I was still so happy to see so many posts and creative folk in the tag this year! I love this event so much and it was heartening to see many others love it as well.
See y’all next October and Happy Halloween! 🎃
#suptober24#destiel#dean Winchester#castiel#Destiel art#wiggleart#spnfanart#phew!#this month flewwwww by#please don’t think of y’]ourself negatively if you didn’t do all the prompts even if you wanted to!#this isn’t a completionist challenge it’s a creative one. sometimes our brains don’t want to cooperate but that’s okay!#I’m proud of anyone who took a chance to try it out!#also yes the kid is dressed as a true form angel lol
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"Last Call" is on TNT. So cringe. As much as I love Sam whump, the scenes of "Dean" singing and talking about old times with a heretofore unknown person is just..... It was really sad that they lost the ability to write Dean and not a caricature of his persona.
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Sam deserved to get his tight hole ruined by his big brother
#take that as positive or negative as you'd like#wincest#samdean#sam winchesters#dean winchester#spn#supernatural#bottom!sam
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