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Steve has a pre date routine that Robin always helps with which includes a checklist of different things like: hair looks nice, outfit looks nice, condom in wallet (Robin always cringes at this one), breath is good, etc.
But for some reason, Robin can’t be there to help before Steve’s upcoming date, and Eddie happens to be at Family Video when Steve finds out, so he’s practically forced into helping.
Later when Eddie goes to Steve’s and they’re finishing up the check list, Steve looks in the mirror, points at his upper lip, and asks, “Is this too much stubble? Like would this be uncomfortable to kiss?”
Eddie goes, “Let me see?” And they naturally fall into a kiss, and Eddie pulls away and says, “Nah, it feels great. You’re all set.”
And Steve slaps him on the shoulder and says, “Thanks, man.”
After Steve leaves, Eddie’s like “…wait.”
And then literally five minutes later, Steve shows up at his house and asks Eddie, “Can we try that again?”
And after they kiss again, Steve goes to the phone, calls and cancels the date, and immediately goes right back to Eddie.
#steddie#steddie blurb#steddie crack#eddie munson#steve harrington#stranger things#I wrote this in Cass’s DMs lolll
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Cassandra Cain and Asian Stereotypes
So I've seen people debating whether Cass is a racist character or not because she falls into certain Asian stereotypes. While this discussion is valid and important, a lot of the conversation (on this website and beyond) is steered by White/non-Asian people, or people who haven't read a lot of Cass' stuff. This is my take on Cass and Asian stereotypes as a Chinese Cass fan. I do not speak for all Asians, or even all Chinese people, who are absolutely free to disagree with any of these arguments.
Stereotypes I will cover here: Silent Asian, Model Minority, and Hypersexuality.
The Silent Asian Stereotype
The most obvious stereotype Cass runs into is the Silent Asian. I would recommend reading the linked article for more information. Silent Asian characters are Asians who are part of a core cast, but rarely speak. Kimiko Miyashiro in The Boys, Lilly in Pitch Perfect, and Katana in Suicide Squad are all examples of this. The article also mentions Ben from Umbrella Academy, who can only communicate with one character, thus limiting his dialogue.
Why does this happen? Removing Asian characters' dialogue reflects the Western conception of Asians as demure, rule-following, and meek, never speaking up or acting out. It also means writers don't have to spend as much time writing these Asian characters, who are secondary to White protagonists.
The problem with the Silent Asian, then, is not the silence itself, but the consequences of silence. Mute Asians exist, as do Asians who don't speak much; in media, Silent Asians are harmful because they indicate an unwillingness to focus on the Asian character.
This is why Cass, even before she learns to speak longer sentences, is not a Silent Asian. While her conception undoubtedly has unfortunate echoes of this trope, she defies it by being the protagonist of the story. A protagonist cannot be a Silent Asian, because a requirement of the trope is being a secondary character. Cass' feelings and actions are the center of Batgirl (2000), so allegations of this stereotype don't actually make sense.
Furthermore, the trope is about passivity and acquiescence to a White authority. From her introduction, Cass is neither passive nor acquiescent - her origin story is literally about defying David Cain, a White male authority figure. Beyond her not speaking much, she ticks none of the boxes for this stereotype. I think it's time for people to stop mentioning this stereotype in conjunction with Cass, who in every possible way subverts it.
The Model Minority Stereotype
The model minority myth is the belief that Asians are more successful and talented than others, particularly other minoritised groups. Like the Silent Asian, the model minority myth paints Asians as obedient and submissive. This is, in many ways, more insidious than the Silent Asian - there are still people who believe this stereotype (and jokes like 'of course you're good at math, you're Asian') is somehow not racist.
Though this myth seems positive, make no mistake that White people invented this tale for two reasons: to put down Black and Brown communities, and to prevent Asians from ever fully assimilating into White culture.
Cass plays on this myth very interestingly. I've discussed in this post how David Cain and Bruce's assertion that she's 'perfect' is a blatant reference to the model minority myth - by describing her as 'perfect' to them, they are centering their own desires, erasing Cass' individuality.
This is partially why I don't like 'Cass is Bruce's favourite' and 'Cass is an angel who can do no wrong' interpretations when people are just saying it without context. Cass being Bruce's favourite, or Bruce seeing her as an angel, is not a good thing - it is a representation of his biased attitude towards her. He is unable to accept her being a murderer because he is trapped within the model minority mindset. This is not saying Bruce is a full-on racist, but that his actions and perspectives are coloured by his Whiteness.
Cass' abrasive personality, willingness to defy Bruce and David, and very real flaws (her inability to see grey areas, communication difficulties, etc.) make her avoid this stereotype. Additionally, her close relationships with Black characters like Onyx and Duke are essential to combating the anti-Blackness at the core of the model minority myth. Her character evokes the stereotype (perfect martial arts silent fighter), but ultimately defies it through being the star of her own story (and also not being good at math. The fact she doesn't have anything to do with tech is actually one of my favourite aspects of her character, because I am TIRED of tech Asian characters).
The Hypersexual Asian Woman Stereotype
Asian women are often exoticised and fetishised as the ideal sexual partner; think of the term 'yellow fever', which describes men lusting after Asian women. The hypersexualisation of Asian women in media once again goes hand-in-hand with Asians being submissive. They are seen as innocent and child-like, while simultaneously being seductive and sexually experienced.
This stereotype is genuinely perpetuated in Batgirl (2000), mainly by the art in Horrocks' run. Where in Puckett's run there is refreshingly little sexualisation of Cass, once you hit Horrocks' run you get a LOT more shots of her lying down, sexually suggestive covers, etc. People have discussed this already, probably to more effect than I will do here.
However, as I wrote in my Gender and Sexuality posts, the writing is actually fairly defiant of this trope. Cass is vocally uncomfortable with hypersexualisation, and neither of her male love interests stick around. The problem with the Hypersexual Asian Woman is the focus on White sexual interests, where the woman is objectified for the White male gaze. Simply because Cass is the protagonist, the writing focuses on her sexual interests, and in the end it's about gaining control of her gender presentation and sexuality.
Cassandra Cain Vs. Asian Stereotypes
The through-line that connects all these Asian stereotypes is a lack of agency. There's a reason passiveness is the main trait for all of these tropes- the Asian body must be weaker than their White counterparts, in order to be tools or weapons against other minoritised groups.
Cassandra Cain, a character born from a choice that defies White male authority, rises above this passiveness with flying colours. The details of her character certainly fall into some of the above tropes, and the way her character is handled later (evil Cass, New 52), is certainly racist. However, the reason she means so much to me is because at its core, her story is a story of Asian agency. And that in itself is unstereotypical.
#cassandra cain#batgirl#batgirl 2000#race#uhhh idk why i wrote this whole essay idk if anyone will read this entire thing#it's a love letter to cass and a racism analysis all in one#definitely other asians may disagree and that's totally valid#this is NOT the be all end all of opinions of cass and race!! please read other people's opinions as well#i didn't even touch on how cass' suicidal ideation is a refreshing portrayal of asian mental health which is a hugely underrepresented topi#model minority myth when i get you...#batman#meta
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IM GOING FERAL. FOREVER 17 TIM. DAMIAN GETTING OLDER THAN HIM. LIKE JUST- DAMIAN BEING PROTECTIVE OF HIS NOW YOUNGER BROTHER HHHHHHHH. TIM IS THE BABY, THE DANGEROUS AND GENUIS BABY. I LOVE HIM AHHHHHHHHH. rando scenario time because im going fucking feral and i dont think a fic like what i require exists
Stranger: *is flirting with Tim*
Tim: *Is trying to politely excuse himself* (mostly because he doesn't want to cause a scene, he's probably in a very public place? idfk)
*Stranger just keeps pushing until they hear a cough from behind them.*
They fucking turn around to see the entire gaggle of batkids glaring at them. Motherfucker would probably piss their pants.
I bet Damian would be twirling a dagger in his fingers while glaring down at this fucker.
Dick has this smile that says 'I am going to politely eviscerate your intestines.'
Jason cracking his knuckles with a nasty grin on his face, probably about to beat this fucker up
The other ones are there too, but i dont trust my grasp on my interpretation of their personalities yet to say what they'd be doing other than beating the dude up or getting tim away, lol
#Tim is forever 17#tim drake#damian wayne#dick grayson#jason todd#steph cass and duke would be there as well cuz i love the big batfam#hhehehehehhe#I went feral and wrote a little thing myself because i couldn't find what i want
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El murciélago bañado por las sombras y el ángel de la muerte (Nombre temporal).
Entonces tengo esta idea loca desde hace unas horas.
El Surgimiento de la idea:
en algún momento escuche este concepto de que cada persona tiene su propio ángel de la muerte el cual se encarga de recoger el alma de la persona fallecida cuando llega su hora, a veces cuando alguien enfrenta una situación en la que casi muere, realmente muere por un tiempo o uno de esos momento donde su vida pasa frente a sus ojos por así decirlo pueden verlo.
la mayoría no lo recuerda y los pocos que si lo hacen no hablan de ello.
esto anterior mas un recuerdo vago de un capitulo de un fic de DP donde danny escribe un poema acerca de una platica que tubo con la muerte donde esta le dice que no puede llevarse a danny (aunque no recuerdo si es porque danny es el rey fantasma o por ser un halfa).
La Idea como tal:
de estas dos ideas se me ocurrió lo siguiente.
Danny siendo el angel de la muerte de cass, pero si bien danny es el angel de la muerte de cass el nunca podra llevarla al lugar que le corresponda para descansar por la eternidad y si te preguntas el porque pues porque el destino y la vida se niegan a dejar morir y descansar a ciertas personas.
Por fortuna(?) la mayoría de los héroes son algunas de estas personas y por desgracia(?) un buen numero de villanos también.
la situación es tal que no importa el que o el como pero esa persona selecciona escapara de apenas con vida de una muerte segura o volverá a la vida unos segundo, unos minutos o algunos meses e incluso algunos años después.
el método para que vuelvan puede ser cualquiera pero al final siempre escapan de las manos de su ángel de la muerte.
cass es una de esas pocas personas que pueden recordar a su ángel de la muerte.
aquí es donde por mi parte pierdo el hilo de como quiero escribir ( jaja no puedo escribirlo aunque mi vida dependa de ello) esta idea.
Porque por un lado me encantaría que esto fuera un cass x danny donde los únicos momento donde ellos pueden interactuar y hablar es cuando cass esta en una situación cercana a la muerte pero nunca podran estar verdaderamente juntos por que el destino y las propias convicciones de cass le impiden morir o permanecer muerta.
lo que me lleva a la idea de que cass escriba cartas o poemas para su ángel(?) para dárselos en esos raros momento en los que se encuentran, pero el problema es que cass es demasiado buena para enfrentar regularmente ese tipo de situaciones donde se puedan encontrar.
y por otro lado esta la idea de que sean algo asi como amigos y/o danny sea una especie de mentor de cass desde que ella era joven y escapo de las garras de su progenitor.
ya que cuando era mas joven enfrento varias llamadas cercanas debido a la desnutrición y/o enfermedades debido andar escapando la mayor parte del tiempo de la persecución de david (creo que así se llama).
estoy seguro que existen otras rutas para llevar esto e incluso otros barcos, pero con mis habilidades actuales no puedo llevar a cabo esta idea asique la comparto con ustedes para que agreguen o la usen a su antojo.
Saludos.
tag some people I follow, in case they like the concept.->
@satoshy12 @zylev-blog @bet-on-me-13 @hdgnj @dcxdpdabbles @wandixx
#dc x dp#dp x dc#dpxdc#dc x dp crossover#mala escritura#danny x cass#cass x danny#dead silent#au idea#por cierto si alguien sabe el nombre del fic del que hablo por favor pásemelo.#danny fenton#angel de la muerte danny fenton#Because my English is not very good I wrote it in Spanish#when I put it through the translator some things sound strange and lose the thread so I decided to leave it in Spanish.#If you write a fic or oneshot about this please let me know or tag me
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They fucking did it again those bastards. Jason Todd fucking dies 2: Electric Boogaloo. Fuck it, let's go for a threepeat at this point. It'll be funny as hell.
#tuesday spoilers#jason todd#in all seriousness though like...what the hell#I'm not even a Jason superfan. I like him but I'm not like INVESTED in the way I am with Steph's stuff#but I am so upset on y'all's behalf. Damian and Jason have gotten so thoroughly fucked over by Zdarsky.#And not even in a way that makes narrative sense or is the logical conclusion to their character flaws#it really is the 'X is the best Robin disease so fuck everyone who isn't them'. Tim is Zdarsky's fave so these other guys need to fuck off#Update: Jason is not dead. which is somehow even worse#because it means they wrote a fake-out death for a character who's defining thing is that he totally actually died#and now they're having a character who LITERALLY DID DIE THAT IS HIS WHOLE THING have a fakeout death#why couldn't it be Dick? Or Tim? Or Damian?#Obviously it wouldn't be Cass or Steph or Duke because Zdarsky doesn't even pretend to care about them#but a Tim fake-out would make sense because Zdarsky is actually really good at writing Tim's whole 'I am Batman's caretaker/keeper' thing#so having Tim 'sacrifice himself' to protect Bruce would make sense and it would also fit with how he's characterized#and because (credit where it's due) Zdarsky is good at writing Tim it would probably be at least interesting if not straight up good#and a Damian fake-out would have made sense to do a while ago because it makes sense logistically and would have#allowed Zdarsky to take him out of the story. which imo is preferable to writing him poorly. it also would have raised the stakes#I'm opposed to a Dick fake-out because like...nah. we've gotten so many of those and I don't want to be reminded of Ric if I can avoid it#but it would have been better than fake killing the guy who DIED FOR REALSIES AND IT'S HIS DEFINING EVENT#Damian also died for realsies but IDK if that's been retconned and also it's not literally his whole thing#Damian is a Robin who died but he is not THE Robin who died
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It’s only a queen-size bed, but the distance between their bodies feels as wide and treacherous as the Grand Canyon. Tentatively, Castiel inches his good hand out into the empty space. He’s careful not to reach past the invisible halfway point, not to take what does not belong to him. The heater kicks on, its fan filling the motel room with a low, droning note. Outside, the hum of the highway. The buzz of neon. It creates a dissonant chord that resonates in his molars. After a moment, the blankets jostle slightly as Dean’s hand extends out towards the middle of the bed. Their pinky fingers touch, just barely. A pinprick of warmth amidst the cold expanse of the sheets. Something like the beginning of a smile graces Castiel’s lips. He’s glad for the lack of light, that it is not witnessed. The heater shuts off, and the silence it leaves makes the room seem to stretch out, endless, encompassing. Outside, rhythmic, toneless bass, thumping out the suggestion of a beat, pouring thick from the subwoofer of a car driving through the parking lot. The edges of the curtains glow white, then red, headlights and taillights sweeping past. Further away, the engine cuts, the music disappearing abruptly with it. The room fades back to darkness, quiet. Pinky fingers touching. Here, the world beyond feels a million miles away. Here, sanctuary. It could be ten minutes or two hours before Dean speaks, his voice little more than a whisper, sweet and warm and sorrowful as honey whiskey. “I still pray to you, sometimes.”
an excerpt from the same WIP as this for WIP wednesday
#what if i wrote a 9x06 gap fic that's not gen and not romantic but a secret third thing?#it's more of a human!cas character study than true fanfic gap but you understand#wip wednesday#cass writes#spn fic#destiel fic#destiel#spn 9x06#heaven can't wait#fanfiction gap
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you can tell they're related to eachother based on their move mastery decisions
#pokemon#pokemon mystery dungeon#cacturne#nuzleaf#spidops#my art#keith#cass#luwel#butcher#cass is keiths mom btw. theyve never interacted before#they'll interact eventually but they remain pretty distant to eachother#like if anything. butcher talks to keith more than his own mom does#(hes like his stepdad basically i guess bc cass and butcher are A Thing)#not that cass is really much of a talker anyways. which. fuck dude keith isnt much of a talker either actually#(keith talks to his friends/family a lot but if youre a stranger he's usually very quiet#he'll be happy to talk about jobs/rescue work/etc but if u talk to him outside of that he's so different)#they'll meet eventually. idk exactly when. probably pre-calamity joining. inch trap gives team brambleweed a letter#not that keith wrote it or anything. he didnt. it was probably guildmaster rime if im honest
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belphie's fucking gay and jealous
epic pre relationship caphie / 900 something words <3 FEATURING ASHER APPEARANCE, HE'S IN CASSICANON NOW‼️
Belphegor almost felt like he was back in the Celestial Realm, no, it was even better than that. Nothing beat having Cassian all to himself, but it was so much better when they were in the human world together, and especially when Belphie came by himself. Not that he was supposed to come down here, but he missed his human and could deal with Lucifer’s bitching later. At the moment he was happy snuggling on the couch with the blond in his apartment, he had an anime movie on and was excitingly explaining all the details Belphie didn’t get. He wondered if this is what it was like when he talked about the stories of the constellations when they went stargazing, he hoped Cass loved listening to his talking half as much as Belphie loved listening to his. Nothing could ruin this moment between them…. he thought anyway.
Cassian startled as his phone on the coffee table vibrated, playing what Belphie assumed was one of the default ringtones. He quickly paused the movie with an apology to the demon and answered the call.
“Hello? Oh, yeah you did. I totally forgot to bring it to you yesterday, sorry.”
Belphie raised an eyebrow at the conversation, he couldn’t hear what the other person was saying, but by Cassian’s demeanor he could tell they were fairly close.
“Uhm, hold on one sec.” The human lowered the phone and turned to Belphie, “Is it okay if one of my friends stops by really quick? He won’t be here for long, he just forgot something last time he was here.”
“That’s fine.”
Cass gave a soft smile and put his phone back to his ear, “Yeah, you can come grab it right quick. Oh, uhm… I have someone over so… oh shut up… I’ll see you in a few, bye bye.”
His face was slightly pink and sighed as he hung up the call. “Sorry about that.”
“Eh, it’s okay. Who was that?”
“Oh, uhm, that was my friend Asher, he was my co-worker before I came to the Devildom and we started actually hanging out when I got back here. It’s kinda sad, but he was the only one who seemed to notice I was gone.”
Belphie nodded and smirked, “I guess you were really lonely without me there for you, huh?”
Cass covered his face with his hands. “M-maybe.”
“Hehe.”
It wasn’t long until the doorbell rang and Cassian got up to answer it, Belphie peeked over the couch to the doorway, he didn’t necessarily care about other humans besides Cass anymore, but that’s exactly why he felt the need to observe this friend of his. With how easily he trusted him in the attic, he was worried that he might’ve made friends with someone shady.
It definitely wasn’t also because he was feeling jealous and wanted to make sure this new human didn’t try anything.
Definitely not.
The door opened and as Cass greeted him, Belphie could finally see what he looked like. He had shaggy green hair, obviously dyed from the looks of the black roots, matching olive green eyes, freckles going across his nose and cheeks, and quite a few piercings. He dressed like a mix between a skater and those e-boys that Asmo sends him on FabSnap, saying it’s what he should wear.
“I’ll go grab your charger, be right back!” Cass ran to the room he uses as an “office” which is really just a glorified gaming room.
The human looked around as he stood by the door, jumping when he noticed Belphie on the couch. “Oh, you scared me, man. I didn’t notice you there.”
Belphie stared at him.
He scratched the back of his head. “Soooo, you’re, like, Cass’s new boyfriend, yeah?”
“Boyfriend?”
“Oh, did I get that wrong? The way Cass talks about you I assumed you were, sorry about that.” He gave an embarrassed smile.
Luckily Cass came back in before any other awkward conversation could be had, “Sorry I took so long, I forgot which one is yours.” He held out a few wrapped colorful cables to the other human.
“Haha, it’s the yellow one.” He grabbed and shoved into his jacket pocket. “Well I guess I should get going. It was nice to meet you, Belphie.” He gave a wave as he opened and walked out the door, Cassian saying goodbye as he did.
Belphie narrowed his eyes at the man using a nickname for him, but quickly tried to hide his annoyance as Cass sat back on the couch with him, sighing. “Sorry again… I should’ve brought it to him yesterday but I totally forgot. At least it didn’t take too long.” He smiled sweetly at the demon.
“You apologize too much, you know?” He patted his fluffy hair.
“Wahh…”
Belphie reached for the remote, handing it over to Cass, he was already in a better mood. “C’mon, you still have to finish telling me about this guy’s illness.”
Cassian's eyes seemed to almost sparkle as Belphie remembered what he was talking about. “O-okay. So I looked it up one time and I didn’t think humans could actually have bad reactions to the sun like that, but apparently…”
Belphie smiled and felt his body relax as he listened to him infodump, and his mind started to wander slightly. That guy thought he and Cass were a couple. He wondered what kind of things Cassian said about him. Belphegor knew he had feelings for the blond for months, but could never put it together if it was mutual or if being affectionate was just how Cass was.
Boyfriends, huh? He leaned onto Cass’s arm as he pressed play on the remote. Silently noting the other's flushed face as he did so. He liked the sound of that.
#cassian#caphie#I WROTE A THING#anyways asher is an oc ive had for 2 million years and he was kinda floating without a universe to live in#but i decided to make him cass's human friend
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(Crossposted from AO3)
#writing#puns#so many puns#Dick's not sorry and neither am I#batkids#batfam group chat#batfam#Batkids Being Batsibs#dick grayson#jason todd#stephanie brown#tim drake#Friend and I joking about Cass dying entirely so she could tell Jason to stop being so dramatic#Except Friend almost wrote Stop be drama and well here we are#ceph writes things
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kind of blessed to have gotten into tts/vat7k After The Show Ended. the discourse would have driven me insane im sure. cassunzel is so real btw
#posting#ive glimpsed into people being absolutely fucking crazy about varian LOL#saying he should have been the main antagonist- that cass was irredeemable- etc etc#like yeah hes my favorite and i have issues with how they wrote the show#not exactly feeling like cass needs to be pushed aside for that tho. lol#kind of ties into how i dont like the whole... opposites attract thing with him and hugo#that was kind of cass and rapunzel's Whole Thing#theres nothing wrong with doing it again ig but. idk. it feels like focus is being taken away from the ladies#and their dynamic was SOOOO good. so good (even if the writing uh. faltered. at points)#and i say this as someone who Obviously has varigo as its favorite thing in the world forever
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Hi my name’s Cassandra Cain and I’m the daughter of the Bat. I have short black hair and eyes that change color depending on the artist and I’m 5’something and super skinny but I can beat up a guy who’s thrice my size because I was raised to be the most badass assassin ever by my abusive father but I feel super bad about killing someone so now I’m angst-ridden about it. I met Batman when I was seventeen and he thought I was super cool and relatable so he helped me beat up my dad and then asked me to become his Batgirl. I said yes <3 Now we sit on gargoyles next to each other and brood after we finish punching criminals together all night long. Also Batman invited me to live in his giant mansion with a butler.
#Cass Cain my fav wattpad oc fr#i wrote this entire thing in the dark at 12 am without glasses so I apologize if there the spelling is even worse than usual#cassandra wayne#cassandra cain#cass cain#leo says shit#Cassandra Dark’ness Dementia Raven Wayne
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Long rant post but stepping outside my fandom bubble and seeing people call stephcass sisters is always so jarring like I could be wrong but I feel like most of the people saying that haven't actually read the comics they star in and just consume fanon content where the "batfamily" is a monolith. That or they're just throwing the generic homophobic dismissal at them.
(Disclaimer that this is not me saying everyone should ship stephcass and that they hate the characters if they don't. I know a lot of cool Steph and Cass fans who don't care for the romance between them, and that's fine. People are allowed have different opinions and readings on characters and this is not a personal attack on any individual, just a late night ramble on an annoying fandom trend I've noticed.)
No one should be forced to like a ship and I understand complaints that recently they're treated as a bland duo with one personality trait each instead of the complex characters they used to be, but at the same time... Based on canon storylines so far for the past 20 years or so I genuinely can't think of a better love interest for Cass. I can't think of anyone who moved her development along more as a character outside of her actual family. And for Steph, I understand if people like Timsteph, but the feeling I got reading Batgirl-2000 compared to Tim focused stories is that the writers and the narrative respected Steph more. Even after she died. Also its like. Ridiculously easy to read most of their storylines as romantically coded. (batgirl 2000 mostly accidentally, future state deliberately like they were literally canon in that au, batgirls deliberately while also insisting that they're just besties) And even if you don't want to see it that way, saying they're sisters when a) they're not. Like canonically, they are in no way related they're just best friends who hallucinate each other and die in each others arms. And b) Cass explicitly defined Stephanie as a relationship outside of her familial bonds to Bruce, Babs, Tim, etc is just... Idk I've been in too many fandoms that hated f/f ships it gives me the ick.
Harper comes second imo in terms of best Cass romances based on what we've actually seen in comics, and recently yeah stephcass is being marketed as a duo to try and justify the lack of care towards them individually. But it just frustrates me that a decent amount of the dismissal towards them as 'batcest' or 'sisters' comes from the same place as the general dc fan attitude towards them. Which is that it's not worth it to actually get to know these characters and their stories outside of their assigned place in the batfamily fanon. It's why so many fans like to lump Steph in as another one of Bruce's kids and ignore her actual family and the complex and fraught history she has with both them and Batman. (DC does this too sometimes, but imo fanon did it first back during the Dickbats era.)
Obviously a lot of it is general stigma towards female characters and especially female friends who always get hit with the "let gals be pals" trope, but idk. I guess I'm just tired of seeing people talk about stephcass when they don't even care about them as more than side characters. If you're going to say you hate the ship because they're better off as besties at least give me some actual interesting thoughts on their dynamic beyond "Cute sisters who never fight or cause drama! We love women supporting women platonically 💜💜"
#Sorry for all the stephcass focus recently in my defense batgirls is a thing that exists#And also comic twitter is full of homophobes who barely hide their disdain towards any potential gay batfam member or ships they're in#stephcass#dc rambles#fandom ranting#Anyway fun fact I am a multishipper who loves any cass ship#as long as its not with men because I genuinely can't see her as anything but a lesbian#shout out to the accidental allies who wrote batgirl 2000 and created the best autistic lesbian ever
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double-asking for the roadtrip au because *heart eyes emoji*
the roadtrip fic has hardly and solid plot or a working title yet but heck it's fun akskdjfhskfns
"Where's Jason?" Asks Duke, flat-out on a plush hotel bed that feels like a freaking cloud. Tim stretched out along one side of it, and if it doesn't say something about how big these beds are that the two of them, him and gangly Tim Drake, are both sprawled comfortably in the same one, Duke doesn't know what to say about that.
Tim doesn't look up from his laptop. "Probably pissing off Cass," he replies.
Duke raises an eyebrow, which Tim doesn't see, because he's staring at the computer screen. "On purpose?"
Tim shrugs. "Probably not, but also? Possibly. I don't think the whole thing with Steph is on purpose, though." Duke watches upside-down as a corner of Tim's mouth quirks up.
"Alright, I'll bite. How does Steph play into this?" 'Cause it's not like Duke hasn't noticed the rivalry between Cassie and Jason, they're not that subtle about it. He just hasn't asked. Not his monkeys, not his circus, right? He should use that one around Dick, see what the former circus kid thinks of that very appropriate saying.
Tim sighs. "I mean- you might get caught in the middle of it too. Cass is frustrated enough to stop pulling punches, at this point."
How Tim knows that, without a single word from the Batgirl in question for the duration of today's drive, Duke definitely won't question. If Tim is some kind of potential mind-reading meta, he's not going to be the one to out him.
Tim finally closes the laptop, looks at Duke. "Cass... does not," he emphasizes not, "Like Jay. I won't call it hate, because hate would have to have love to reflect from, but... it's close. It's the killing."
"I figured."
Tim nods. "And Jason hates being hated. They really don't get along in the best of circumstances, and, like... Cass can't turn off her abilities, you know?" He frowns. "Being stuck in an enclosed space with the entire family and all our emotional crap? Sucks for her and I don't think she expected it."
Duke remembers the excited, emoji-filled messages he'd gotten from Cassie about this trip the past few weeks. He doesn't think she expected it, either. "And Steph?"
Tim looks him directly in the eyes, which is freaking unnerving because Tim has those icy blue eyes like Bruce that look like he's staring directly into you sometimes, when he's not looking at you from behind messy-long hair. "Come on," he says, almost abruptly, then relaxes back against the cushiony headboard of the massive bed.
He sighs, loud and grating in the quiet of the room. There's a gorgeous view out the window, but the quiet, free of road noise and navigational conversational chatter, might be the best part. Duke stares out the window, overlooking a shockingly blue lake, watches a floating dock bob in the wind instead of watching the thinly veiled emotions crossing Tim's face. Tim is like a steel trap a lot of the time, expressionless as Red Robin but when he's himself, really, he doesn't hide so much. Duke doubts he really wants him to see all that, though, if he could even parse it all out.
Finally, after long enough that it almost makes Duke jump, Tim speaks again. "Steph has been spending a lot of time with Jason lately." Something about his tone, or maybe the words themselves, sounds weirdly deliberate. It takes Duke a minute to figure out why.
He pushes himself up on an elbow to stare at Tim, not upside-down. "They've got something going on," he fills in, and, yeah, that checks out.
Tim snorts. "Heck if I know. I don't think they're, like... dating? But there's... definitely something there."
"Mutual crush," Duke fills in again, because that definitely fits with what he's seen.
"Something like that," Tim says. "If my ex girlfriend, who's currently one of my best friends in general, and my brother have a thing for each other... who gets the shovel talk?"
Duke, to his credit, doesn't burst out laughing like he wants to do. "Hell if I know," he replies, then laughs because he just repeated what Tim had said a second ago. "So Jason is pissing Cassie off by hanging around with Steph?"
"Yep," Tim replies, popping the P. "I wonder if B is aware of this whole thing," he mutters.
Duke grins. "Tell him. Then he can handle the shovel talk."
Tim looks at him, startled and considering at the same time, then grins back.
#please understand that i wrote this entire thing picturing tim in a huge sweatshirt with his hair in a half-ponytail#bc hotel rooms are always hecking freezing akdkkflskfsng#Lu writes#I've never written Duke before and idk him very well so hopefully it's a good vibe??? idk#i like that he's close with cass. yellow siblings full of light!!!!!!!#this is. definitely based on my post about how cass and jay don't like each other.#tim looking at his family and trying to figure them out... beloved baby bird#batfam
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Should I be working on yesterday? Yes. Am I writing (more) domestic Raph & Cassandra anyway? Also yes.
#no it's not for 'these hands covered in ivy'#it's a different thing <33#i was talking with mouse (hi) last night about raph & cass#as we updated their playlist#and. i wrote a small thing that's just purely domestic and in a good future because why the fuck not#blah blah with duel#rottmnt
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Absolute big brain Mecassa idea I'm embarrassed I never thought of before.
But Melon's pet names for Cassandra always being something like "Cookie" or "Muffin" or "Honeybun", like it's almost always some kind of pastry/baking thing.
And Cassandra finds it so goddamn cute.
And WHY DID I NOT CONSIDER THIS SOONER-
#Mel putting the two things she loves together#also the inunderlying aspect like#goddamn it#i only thought of this because someone liked an old ask#where someone wrote mel calling cass 'cookie'#mecassa
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Most memorable piece for me was absolutely the Remember When We Couldn't Take The Heat. Can't mention a specific scene, cuz i loved all of it, the mutual hate/angst between them and the absolution after that. Like I re-read it ca. 3 times or so. And then the follow-up series When The Sun Came Up... that was a superb job as well. 🫶
Sly! Thank you so much! I remember how excited I was to tell you we were working on a sequel - you were such a big supporter of that original story, your lovely feedback was definitely a contributing factor to the follow up being written! 💙
#remember when was legit one of the first things i ever wrote on period#and i think like the second true collab Cass and I ever did?#so to have someone - you - give so much praise on it was so encouraging and helpful#and here we all are almost three years later#omg can you believe 😭😭😭😭#ask#mymindwide#fic memory ask game#kh4f writing
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