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I love the image of Chuck sitting there, absolutely vexed, in front of a ton of television screens, like a depressed security guard. He's just killed Cas off, again, like he's playing a game of sims. "Third time's the charm" he thinks, fingers crossed he stares at the screens, hoping this time it'll stick.
Sam seems to be doing pretty well, playing his part, good. He's trying to get Dean back in fighting shape with strippers and beer for breakfast. Good job, Sam.
Jack is making pencils levitate, that's fun. He ran around naked for a bit too, keeping the boys on their toes. All going to plan.
And, better just check in on... No, oh no no no. Not again, please not agai-. Brilliant, Dean's killed himself.
10/10 no notes.
But there is something absolutely insane in the notion that Chuck kept bringing Cas back over and over and over again not because Cas was his favourite angel. Oh no, Chuck despised Cas, hated his guts. BUT. He kept bringing him back because withouth Cas Dean kept wanting to die or kept killing himself and basically refused to follow Chuck's script.
#chuck keeps killing cas#dean refuses to live#chuck is forced to bring cas back#cas is brought back#dean wants to live again#insane show for insane people#destiel#supernatural
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Brought someone back from the dead <3
#ts4#the sims 4#simblr#ts4 cas#show us your sims#my sims#fae ocs#my sim: sephtis#my first oc ive ever made!!! brought him back and he got a much needed makeover#well actually this was all from memory lol i didnt have his old files#this hair is temporary bc I’m trying to find ‘the hair’ for him rn
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♫ I get money, I'm a star Star, star, star, star, star, star ♫
#brought back antonia my love <3#ts4#sims 4#ts4 cas#sims 4 cas#ts4 simblr#sims 4 simblr#simblr#cas#ts4 screenshots#sims 4 screenshots#ts4 screenies#showusyoursims#sims lookbook#coquette
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Maybe they titled it “Tombstone” because that’s when s13 stopped making sense.
Or: how the “Jack made Cas see Paradise” beat was dumped on Kelly and how Jack is very much like Fleabag because “No one’s asked me a question in 45 minutes”.
I wish I could share in the general excitement surrounding this episode but, to me, its “feel-good” energy is too much of a foreboding for the rest to come that I’m like, nooooo, I can’t take iiiiiittt. After this episode the season completely derails: Castiel’s character doesn’t make sense anymore, Sam and Dean go back and forth in a plot that’s a joke and Jack… where’s Jack? Do we still have a character named Jack? Ah, yes, here he is, maybe I see him.
In the second scene of the episode we have on one side of the room Jack and Dean, the two characters who are very much emotional because of Cas’ return.
Jack is super tender when he approaches Cas and tells him that he missed him. He’s also super zealous to show his father that he’s been learning to master his powers (he can move a pencil!) and that he has gathered enough knowledge about the family business to find a case, a hunter’s case. His purpose in this episode is to demonstrate to his father that he fits in, that he’s good.
Dean’s also in high spirits and it’s because of Cas’ return as well but the reason is, of course, different. Clearly, he doesn’t have anything to prove to him but he’s euphoric about his “win”. He was literally dead not even 24h prior when he was desperate for an anchor that would reconnect him with meaning and reality. Well, not any anchor. He specifically needed Castiel because, unlike with his mother, Dean didn’t get to have any reconciliation with Cas in s12.
CASTIEL: I don't... What are you doing here? DEAN: Saving your ass. SAM: You and Kelly just taking off was a stupid move. But there's no way we're letting Lucifer get his hands on that kid. It ain't happening. DEAN: Look, Sam's right, okay? We'll work through our crap. We always do. But right now, we are here to get you, get Kelly, and get gone.
Narrator’s voice: they’ll never work through their “crap”. Sigh.
On the other side of the room we have Castiel, who’s fresh off the Empty and looks like he could use a day or two of rest, and Sam, who’s mentally trying to figure out if it was Jack who resurrected Castiel and how he can apply this knowledge to saving Mary. Both Cas and Sam are the ones who are, if not downright contrary, not particularly over the moon by the prospect of working a case.
The tragedy is that both Jack and Dean are so happy about it that it almost feels like they can all forget about the fact that they had to burn Cas but now he's here, that Dean had thoughtlessly run towards death 2 seconds before and that Jack very much doesn’t know yet how to control his powers. In other words, this scene forecasts disaster.
This episode also marks Cas’ first attempt at parenting Jack and it goes both well and disastrously bad for him. Now, parenting is a fucking hard job consisting of infinite responsibilities, one of which is saying no and setting boundaries. This is how Cas starts parenting Jack.
The good news for Cas is that he seems to instinctively predict Jack’s actions, thus knowing when it’s time to say “no”. The slightly bad news is that Jack doesn’t listen to him. And, I mean, this totally makes sense because 1. Jack’s all happy and energized about “his” case; 2. he’s very eager to show off what he has learnt; 3. this is his first chance with his father, it’s like a clean slate for him and he really wants to pass the exam with a “good” stamped on his forehead.
Three times Cas tells Jack “No” and three times Jack disobeys.
The first time is when Jack wants to wake up Dean to tell him about the police update and Cas tells him that he “wouldn’t do that”. Jack, however, would very much want to and so he finds himself face to face with Dean’s gun. Things will get very bad.
The second time Cas tells Jack “No” is when they’re outside the bank and Cas tells Jack to stay where he is but Jack tells him that he’s “got this”. Which he doesn’t because he accidentally kills the security guard.
The third and final time that Cas tells Jack “No” is before he disappears from the bunker. He does it anyway.
Now this might sound strange but, so far, Cas hasn’t done that bad. This is the super-secret that SPN doesn’t want you to know but disobeying the father is actually not that big of a deal, rather it’s quite healthy and it also makes sense for Jack because he’s known his chosen father for maybe less than two days. Their relationship has just started and they need to find their own balance. What’s more important here is the fact that Cas can foresee and understand Jack’s actions, which is a victory for everybody because so far in the season he’s the only one who’s been able to do that.
What he totally fails at is, unfortunately, trying to understand who Jack is. Sam, Dean and Cas have their own (different) opinion about who Jack is and they all hold tight to their beliefs. One thing that always struck me is that nobody asks Jack any question. For me this means that nobody is trying to understand him, they're not curious enough to want to get to know someone like Jack.
Jack is good or evil or special and that's it. And "that's it" because Sam, Dean and Cas see him that way but there isn’t much communication going on in that damn bunker. For instance, when Cas comes back he tells Jack that Sam and Dean have told him that he’s doing well. I don’t want to say it’s a lie but it’s a lie. Nobody is doing well since May 18th. Jack agrees but promptly changes the subject by showing him the pencil trick. This is deflection 101.
One thing that Sam and Cas have in common, though, is that their idea of Jack is strictly dependent on what they think about Kelly and I can’t help but grimace because of it.
Sam, for completely unknown reasons, thinks Kelly was a “good” person, therefore Jack must have a good, perhaps “stronger” side in him that can win over Lucifer’s evilness. Leaving aside for a moment that this a backward, problematic view of maternity, Sam can’t possibly know if Kelly was a good person or not because the two maybe talked to each other one or two times and both times weren’t particularly meaningful moments for either of them. Not saying Kelly wasn’t a good person, just underlining that Sam’s beliefs about Jack are based on his own assumptions bearing zero evidence of reality and founded on outdated notions about maternity.
Cas, on the other hand, thinks Kelly believed that Jack would change the world for the better and so he does too. The thing is, though, if we look back at s12 it’s not Kelly who thought that her son would change the world, it’s Castiel. Kelly thought that she was part of a plan, that she and Cas were destined for something great. She wasn’t the one who had the vision of the future, Castiel had. We have to consider two things here: what Kelly meant by “something great” and Cas’ utopic vision that we don’t see.
I’ve said it many times and I’ll say it again: not even one writer was interested in giving Kelly a little bit of backstory so that we could have an insight on how she is as, you know, a Real Character. As far as motherhood (the sole defining trait of her character) is concerned, we know she wanted to do the “baby thing” with the President and that she had always dreamt about being a mother.
What we do know for sure, however, is that she was a pregnant woman who: was sexually assaulted, abducted, forced to suddenly understand and comply with the supernatural world’s dynamics, abducted again, chained, had committed suicide, had been resurrected, was abducted again, was intimidated by two strangers to get into their car to go to an underground bunker so that they could perform whatever the hell Sam planned to do on her. So, I ask, maybe, just maybe, is it possible to view her behavior and her words in “The Future” as those of someone who probably had all the rights to be on the verge of a mental breakdown? They could’ve framed her “fanaticism” re: Jack's birth as, perhaps, a way to cope with the living hell she was subjected to during her pregnancy. To give meaning to what was happening to her. Regardless of the framing, the show makes a point to tell us that she first and then Cas, Kelly thought, were the ones destined for something great. The writers compared her to Rosemary (from the movie/book "Rosemary's Baby"), like, three times. I hoped that it was a way to signal the abuse she had to endure but I don't think it's the case, sadly.
This is a part of Kelly and Cas’ dialogue in “The Future” that I particularly hate:
Kelly: Maybe. Or maybe it was a miracle. Maybe – maybe everything that I've been through, everything that I still have to go through, is happening for a reason. Maybe it's part of some plan. Castiel: No, it isn't. I used to believe in a plan. I used to believe that I had some mission. But I have been through enough now to know that everyone is just winging it. Some of us quite badly. Lucifer, he's just breaking toys. He's sowing destruction and chaos, and there is no grand purpose at work. And there's no special role for you. When Lucifer took over Rooney's body, I'm sorry. You were just there.
While I understand that Castiel here is more speaking about himself than about Kelly and he, as well, is very well much on the verge of a menty b, I find it so utterly unfair to tell her that she was “just there”.
First of all, NO, if anything, Lucifer was “just there”, she was where she had her right to be, doing her job, sleeping with her partner, talking about her dreams, living her life. That was her life and it was destroyed in an instant, it was only human that she needed a way to make sense of what she was going through. Pregnancy is already a nightmare and, on top of that, she had to go through all that?
And second of all, she literally came back to life after suicide, how couldn’t she not start behaving weirdly? I know the writers were writing Supernatural where Death has only value for characters without any “special role” in the narrative, but come on, they literally just wrote a character telling another character that she has slit her wrists and this is the reply she gets: you’re not special, what happened to you was because you were just there. Brrrrrrrr.
But let’s move to my second point.
Let’s talk about Castiel’s vision. Because, you see, we think that Jack manipulated him but how do we really know it? Yes, there’s that cut scene but it was cut nevertheless and it’s crucial that we don’t see it because, by not seeing it, we can’t really know for sure if Jack had manipulated Cas for real.
Let’s compare it with what Kelly sees when Jack sends her “visions of the future” and what we see: Kelly sees what will happen next in the episode. Period. We see the same thing. Period. No mention of destiny, just the future in the very sense of “what’s going to happen in the next few hours”. She, like us, doesn’t know what Jack has supposedly made Cas see. We know she hasn’t seen anything because in “All Along the Watchtower” we have this little scene here:
KELLY: Tell me again. Tell me again what you saw. CASTIEL: Right, I saw– I saw... I saw the future. I saw a world without pain or hunger or want. I saw the world that this child... that your child... KELLY: Mm. CASTIEL: ...will create. KELLY: Mm. CASTIEL: And it is a world without fear and without suffering and without hate. KELLY: Mm. CASTIEL: I saw paradise.
So the one who was in love with the idea of Jack’s special destiny was not Kelly but Cas.
This is why this dialogue from “Tombstone” seems suspicious to me:
CASTIEL: Yeah, I know she is. Kelly was… She was a very brave woman. JACK: She left me a message. She said I had an angel watching over me. CASTIEL [sighs]: Jack, I'm so sorry. I-I should've been here for you. JACK: No. It's okay. It's just… I understand why she trusted you. Why I trusted you. CASTIEL: You remember that? JACK: I remember feeling… safe. CASTIEL: Jack, your mother, she believed that you would do amazing things. She said that you would change the world for the better. And now, looking at you, talking to you, I know that she was right, that we were right. Kelly would be so proud of you.
I think that the reason why we don’t see Cas’ vision in s12 is because the show wanted to do something with it in s13. It might be the case, what with all the talk about how “Paradise on earth” the Original World seems to be compared to Apocalypse World in s13. I mean, these are just my speculations but it could be. Because, as a matter of fact, Cas’ vision of Jack’s future is dropped in favor of Kelly’s vision of Jack’s future and this… actually never happens?
What we know , though, is that Kelly tells Jack the following in “Patience”:
Kelly: Jack, don’t let anyone tell you who you’re supposed to be. Because who you’re supposed to be isn’t fate, it isn’t me, it isn’t your father. You are who you choose to be. And I know you’re going to okay. You are going to be amazing. You have an angel watching over you.
She’s telling Jack that who he is isn’t fate, that he can choose who he wants to be. I mean, there’s definitely something off going on here.
Maybe they just dropped Cas’ “I saw the future” beat (that was presented as what convinced Cas to save Jack) on Kelly because, by the time the writers started planning s13, they decided that they weren’t gonna use it anymore? I don’t know, what I’m saying, though, is that Kelly was more focused on her kid being good rather than evil as everybody assumed, whereas it was Cas who “saw” Jack change the world for the better. But we don’t see what Cas sees so we have to take his and Dean’s word for it. And both words seem to be pretty biased. At any rate, something doesn’t add up in between s12 and s13.
So, to recap: what we have seen is that Kelly has never actually said that her son would do great things, but that she believed that her son would be good. It was Castiel who believed that Jack would create great things in the future because of a vision neither us nor Kelly have ever seen. Even if we consider the cut scene it still doesn’t account for the difference between Kelly’s and Cas’ visions and/or why Kelly didn’t see what Cas saw.
Another person that underlies the “to be vs to do” dilemma is Mia Vallens where in “The Big Empty” she shapeshifts into Kelly:
JACK: Sam thinks you were right, that—that I’m good. He wants me to believe it, and I wanna believe it, too. It’s just, I… I’ve hurt people. I didn’t mean to. It was an accident. And I know I should feel bad, and I say I feel bad, but most of the time, I mostly… I don’t feel anything. And that’s why I think maybe… Maybe I’m a monster. MIA/KELLY: Jack. It doesn’t matter what you are. It matters what you do. And even monsters can do good in this world. JACK: You really believe that? MIA/KELLY: I have to. I have to.
First of all, Mia is telling Jack that he’s a monster, lol. And she literally doesn’t know he’s a Nephilim so WTF? Anyway, the things are two: either the writers were drunk when they wrote this (Jack: “I’ve hurt people, I think I’m a monster” Mia: “It doesn’t matter what you are, only what you do”. MIA, ffs, THIS IS WHAT HE HAS JUST TOLD YOU, HELLO????? HELLO???? He’s just told you that he has done something that makes him think he’s a monster, how do you not see how your advice is shit?) or, more probably, they blatantly wanted to remind us that the person who’s speaking is not Kelly but a shapeshifter who tries to do good things to atone for her past crimes. She has to believe that because of her own past, not Jack, not Kelly, Mia.
What’s more, Jack saying he doesn’t feel anything… doesn’t really mean he doesn’t feel anything. Since he was born he’s been living with two men obsessing over “good and evil”, two concepts he still clearly and rightfully doesn’t understand because nobody is explaining him shit. How is he supposed to know? Of course he’s confused as to how or what he should feel.
For example, by the end of “Tombstone” Jack is evidently confused and ashamed. He feels shame because he has “failed” in front of his father, his “failure” resulted in the death of an innocent man and, what’s more, Sam, Cas and Dean are talking about him in the other room like he’s just proven that he’ll never be good. Excluding and talking about someone when this someone is feeling shame is, like, the worst response ever.
No wonder the episode ends like this:
SAM: Jack, look, this life, what we do, it's… it's not easy. And we've all done things we regret. JACK: Just don't. You're afraid of me. CASTIEL: Jack, no. JACK: No, maybe you're right. Maybe I'm just another monster. DEAN: No, you're not. I thought you were. I did. But… Like Sam said, we've all done bad. We all have blood on our hands. So if you're a monster, we're all monsters. JACK: No, you don't… Every time I try and do something good, people get hurt. I thought I was getting better. I'm not… I don't know what I am, but I know I can't make the world a better place, not like this. I can't even do one good thing. And I know that if I stay, I'm gonna hurt you. All of you. And… I can't. You're all I have.
My heart aches a little at the words “You’re all I have” because they have all failed him so much and he literally doesn’t have anyone else.
Also, Jack echoing of Cas’ words “She said that you would change the world for the better” resembles what Chuck told Sam and Dean in s11 and that Dean paraphrases in his prayer to him: “You said the earth would be fine because it had me… and it had Sam” discarding them as false (can’t shake the feeling that they wanted to go somewhere with that “Paradise on earth” crap).
All Jack has has unfortunately failed him: Sam has failed him with his training mentality that bore no fruit and made Jack think that he had value only if he succeeded; Dean has failed him because he both threatened to kill him and provided “shelter” for him putting Jack in the position of basically having to live with his possible executioner (we know Dean wouldn’t eventually do it but the point is that Jack doesn’t and Dean’s threats deeply, deeply affect him).
Cas was the only one who could have had a real shot with Jack but he arrived tooo lateeee! And he (understandably) came back with his own package of preconceived ideas, ideas that made it all worse because Cas didn't know that Jack was noooot doing well! I hate SPN, why would they do this to meeeee?
Of course Jack would eventually run away. Perhaps the major takeaway from all this is that he did way better on his own than with the three of them. And that says a lot.
#spn s13 tendency to “blame it on the mothers” irks me so much.#let the characters explore their relationship with their mothers once the last are brought back into the narrative#and if the mother has to stay dead like kelly. please don't put words in her mouth#castiel's obsession over the fact that he broke the promise he made to Kelly is absolutely interesting#but that's still about what Cas thinks. Kelly is dead and she can't speak so please don't put words in her mouth thank you#supernatural#spn#castiel#sam winchester#kelly kline#dean winchester#jack kline#spn meta#spn s13#spn s12#tombstone#jack the puer#s13e6#phd in spn s12#super-m/Others#tw: abuse#tw: sa mention#tw: suidice
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sometimes i think about how much of a waste it was to just have cas ignoring sam’s prayers in s6 instead of him actually not being able to hear him bc he was soulless and his prayers didn’t work
#there should have been more side effects of literally not having a soul other than sam just being a sociopath#the whole point of the season was how souls themselves are power right#so its not a leap to asume any supernatural anything a human is able to do or conjure would be powered by the soul#so why not make it that the soul is what powers prayers#or powers exorcisms and summonings and rites#imagine if sam couldnt make holy water anymore#or exorcise demons which he doesnt care about bc hed just use the knife anyway#but it would make things difficult for him#just this added hassle of having to buy holy water and needing the cambels to do rites for him that he just cant#i know cas ignores him for guilt reasons but imagine if that first prayer from dean is how he realises he brought sam back soulless#maybe he just thought sam was ignoring him and had gone on to live the normal life he always wanted#then that guilt of thinking he saved him just to realise how badly he fucked up along with the guilt of working with crowley??#huge missed opportunity#coming out of my cage and ive been doing just fine.txt#carry on my wayward son#sam winchester#castiel#dean winchester#destiel#supernatural#spn
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I'm putting more effort into investigating this Cupid Asteria thing than in my entire final dissertation for uni jsyk
#monster high#ever after high#ca cupid#it means NOTHING on the eah front but why bring back the one character that connects them then#like if they'd brought back kieran valentine it would have been different but...#and on the wave of those spotify songs at the beginning of the year too!#idk this is weird. I'm too invested I'm afraid it's gon a blow up in my face#AND if the trademark to doll timelines remain constant we might get her on valentines day too I just realized
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hey. why didn't dean get a hunters funeral when he first got eviscerated by hellhounds in season 3. He was just In The Ground
#spn#unless he did have one and i dont remember#and they just like. buried his ashes or something. and cas brought all of him back#scratching my head
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fic where sam gets fatally wounded by something cosmic and cas tries to heal it but it doesnt work and sam is like delirious and cant even feel the blood gushig from his neck only that cas’ hands are slick and warm and sams like trying to ask “are you ok” but it wont come out and cas is there just going Ohhhh No
#do you see the vision#idk what would lead up to this but sastiel death scene would fuck me up so hard#ofc sam would get brought back to be chucks hamster but cas dont know that#dictions#just talking shit atp
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Most sweet-toothed goblin guy to ever do it Thank you to all CC Creators <3 You guys rock
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i don’t think dean loving cas/sam is an either/or. i think he loved them both.
cas falling in love with the righteous man who is in love with own brother, and realizing it didn’t mar his soul at all. dean was perfect, and half of his soul was sam’s. cas falling not only because he loved dean, but because the abomination, the boy king, was gentle and selfless and believed that angels could be good. he couldn’t love dean without loving sam because he held dean’s soul in his hands and it was damaged from torture but even before that, from being ripped away from his soulmate.
cas forgetting that humans couldn’t see the things he saw, they couldn’t tell just by looking at those two how close they were. their souls only looked right when they were pressed against each other; that was when the tangle of colours made sense, bleeding into the other like a breathing work of art.
cas protecting them both from harm because nothing is more precious than love and devotion and family and the winchesters represent it in every possible way.
cas was the only one they trusted to take care of their brother, and that trust was more like love than anything cas could imagine. and he understood why they’re like that, because it’s intoxicating, to be looked at with so much emotion it burns like hellfire, holy oil, agony.
cas loved the winchesters, and they loved him back. not as much as they loved each other, but he would never expect them to.
because dean winchester owned very few things, and even fewer of them loved him back. because there were only two living beings known as his: brother, and angel. dean called cas his brother, and cas could tell that was a higher honour than marriage, and that’s when he knew he was a winchester.
#owning/loving same thing#cas didn’t get raised right either he gets it#why must we choose between wincest and destiel. why can i not partake from both gardens.#how could dean Not love the angel who brought him back to sam??.#can you tell im a casgirlboy#it’s the religious trauma it’s not my fault#i am alienating everyone in one fell swoop fr#samdean#wincest#destiel#mars.txt#wincestiel
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he sat there on the ground and cried. for cas. cas told him he loved him was taken away and he buried his head in his hands and wept
#AND THEN THEY TRIED TO PRETEND LIKE IT WAS FINE? and after the widower arc#it wasn’t even as nearly fucked then this time all their friends got thanos snapped and we don’t even get canon confirmation that they were#brought back. even with covid not even a vo or offhand mention or reference#jack is god and in every drop of rain or whatever.#sure yeah whatever they beat the final boss and got over the protagonist angst of it all but the world was still the same it just wasn’t a#chuck story which only ramped up to being The Big Problem in the season 14 finale.#cas was stabbed by an angel blade and dean broke while wrapping his body for the funeral pyre. ALONE. and was. not doing well#and you tell me it’s whatever after he sat there in that dungeon refused to answer sam’s calls and cried during the complete and total end#of the world. that he just bounced back from that and died and drove around heaven for decades in a few minutes and smiled while americana#electric guitar played on some bridge#cas helped oh that’s nice I guess smile now I have GOT to go drive my car around. because I did not get enough of that in my time on earth.#unlike my time with cas which I am satisfied with and in no need of closure. perhaps a conversation. looking upon him to see him alive and#well. healing some of that trauma of the last time I saw him. a reunion hug maybe even which has become tradition. CUT THE CAMERAS deadass#he’s going for the face touch. no this we cannot possibly have time for we have to play carry on wayward son twice#sorry. it has been three years. sorry. it’s just so funny buddy your ass did NOT escape the hamster wheel
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all of my bitches are pretty they showing their tts its up to the ceiling <3
#this dress is so selne colded#anyway guys... guess who brought back athy's superhero form#kind of. 🧍♀️ this is def more like a formal wear thing#like imagine she has to go to a party as selene this is the fit shed pull up in * with a mask * but ion got that#ts4#the sims 4#the sims#sims#sims 4#cas#ocs#oc#cas screenshots#aathira rai devi#gamma saga#selene#simblr#my sims#my sim#my simblr#simblrs#sims community#the sims community#sims 4 community
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Young Mary is so interesting to me and same with Anna's character arc like. If I could I would genuinely end spn after season 5 and start a spin off focused on young Mary + Anna and their rebellions from their families. And also just seeing what Castiel is up to somehow in some episodes.
#it kills me so badly likee cas is my favourite character in anything ever#but Come On. WHYY did they never do anything with young mary and anna after s5#like i love they brought mary back and she was completely in hunter mode like how they saw her when she was young#BC even without the resurrection and whatever. she wouldve never been the ideal Mother Mary anyways#bc she was playing a role. and the audience doesnt even know that until we finally get her perspective through time travel#but it wouldve been so fucking cool to see how a hunting family worked#andd with anna. like seeing someone that isnt ever popular with other angels (like cas was) but still rebelled#really breaks up the monotony and how they acted a lot like a hivemind.. it makes it seem so much more like an actual species instead of#just Villains#anyways. sorry. i actually do find this show really interesting. even aside from the destiels.#my posts#spn
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imagine if spn were an actual soap opera. imagine like 5000+ episodes. rewatches would take forever
#it would be. so much worse. but HIGHLY entertaining#absolutely no consistency. constant retcons and timeline shifts#characters soo ooc because none of the current writers have watched the first decade of eps#sam's been recast 10 times already. there's only so many times he can have a face-altering accident !!#ketch DOES have an evil twin#destiel went canon with cas in a female vessel but then they brought misha back and just have not acknowledged it#many amnesia plots#more of john's secret kids coming out of the woodwork#that one post that was like. kelly kline as one of john's kids. yea exactly#jo would've been one too like kripke originally planned#birth order would go: dean kelly sam jo adam#possibly ben braeden also john's#just. SO many secret babies#also maybe mary had a secret baby before meeting john. would give dean so many complexes and disorders#who could be mary's secret kid? maybe asa? she gave him up for adoption but kept tabs on him#ok new birth order for all the winchester / campbell kids: asa dean kelly sam jo adam ben#this is insane why did i think of this afdkfkdk#if anyone reads these tags i'm sorry / ur welcome#vic.txt#soapoperanatural
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in trans/ftm dean headcanons, do you think dean didn’t want j*hn to call him dean at first? like he would prefer j*hn deadname him than ruin his chosen name with the familiar burn of anger yk. so only sammy and bobby would call him dean at first and they just kinda kept it between them for a while.
#idk just smth to think about#me and my brother both have a similar experience to that so i was like i wonder if dean is the same yk#also#saw a headcanon a bit ago that said when cas brought dean back from hell he brought him back in an amab body#and i kind of adore that idea actually#dean goes back and forth between being a transman and a cisman in my head it’s very fun#supernatural#spn#dean winchester#spnfandom#trans dean winchester#tw: john winchester#strawbsposts
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what up it's been 12 years and i'm still pissed there was no consequence to dean being in constant survival mode and fighting 24/7 in purgatory
what do you mean he didn't become a god at hand to hand combat? what do you mean he could still be jumped by random ass demons?
he was - at best - in a constant in-between state meaning he didn't get hungry or tired but that also means he didn’t sleep for a year and was constantly being hunted by hundreds of thousands of monsters that want to eat him specifically, while actively searching for cas
OR he was in a completely normal state meaning he was constantly fighting starvation and exhaustion while all of that was still happening!! it's not like there's much to scavenge in monster heaven!! he would’ve been on the verge of dying for a year!!!
then he comes back and he's just exactly the same? the same level of fighting skill he's always had? if not slightly worse for some reason?? what do you mean he couldn't kill anything he came across with his eyes closed when it's what he's been doing EVERY DAY FOR A YEAR???
it's always been one of the flaws of a show running for so long that after like s6 they never seemed to be getting better? they still got the shit kicked out of them by demons and ghosts and what have you and instead of finding obscure rituals they just got A Better Gun™️
both sam and dean are the peak of what hunters can be; they've been trained to hunt and kill things bigger and stronger than them since they were children, so what do you mean they still get the shit kicked out of them so often? was it just to show how strong monsters are? that even with their level of experience and skill, they're still outmatched?
(or do you just need a way to keep up the tension cough cough what who said that)
but you can't have dean who's been trained to be an elite soldier Since He Was Four Years Old go into a 360 combat scenario for an entire year - a good chunk of which he was completely by himself - then say he didn't improve his combat skills At All
and not even just combat, his senses would've been off the charts!! there was nothing but ambient forest noise and growling, his hearing would've gotten so sharp, it was darker so his night vision would ve been insane and he should've been able to feel a monster coming a mile away after constantly being on guard
post purgatory dean had the opportunity to be a completely different beast to anything we'd ever seen before, to be a completely different kind of traumatised from all of his other trauma
hell broke him but purgatory should've broken and rebuilt him into something Terrifying
#lost potential has always been spns biggest problem post s5 bc there was no plan and never a guarantee that theyd get another season#so whatever new villain or circumstance they introduced always had to be written to be concluded that season#bc they never knew until the mid season break if they could stretch it into the next season#thats why side characters die and get brought back so many times bc each death really was supposed to be It#but then they got another season and its like well shit cas cant stay dead lets figure out how he can come back this time#they could never permanently alter sam or deans personality or mental state bc they couldnt let time go on before resolving it#its also why they never stayed apart bc of the newest Big Fight for more than an episode but thats a different conversation#nothing could have lasting consequences but something like this shouldve changed dean as much as hell changed dean#and hell changed him permanently bc there was a plan and knowledge of how many seasons they had#s8 onwards leaves the characters in a constant loop of feeling the same things and having the same arguments#with whatever new apocalypse dropped in the middle#dean was arrogant in s1; lost in s2; afraid in s3; broken in s4 and at war with himself in s5#sam was kind and lost in s1; he was angry in s2; desperate in s3; an addict in s4 and recovering in s5#that kind of character growth is important and amazing to watch#other than dean being reluctant and sam soulless in s6 did they ever have such a clear difference season to season?#if anything dean shouldve had a bigger reaction to same leaving him in purgatory#that shouldve been something he held over his head for the rest of their lives bc it is unforgivable#but the boys are never allowed to change and dean dies to fuck ass vampires and a nail so whats the point anyway#coming out of my cage and ive been doing just fine.txt#supernatural#spn#carry on my wayward son#dean winchester#sam winchester#talk meta to me#save post
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