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Destiel Pride - Day 21; Most faithful mirror
#destiel pride#dean winchester#castiel#destiel#destiel art#spnfanart#wiggleart#I forgot this is a line in the Massive Attack song Teardrop haha but yeah I#thought about things that encompassed the whole song but I just then thought about mirrors and how it shows you yourself#and how Dean and cas faced similar issues specifically daddy issues lol#and family issues#and this scene from 4.16 was one of my favorites of theirs and imo one of their most important scenes that got them on the same page#this is the same episode cas is beginning to experience doubt#Dean tells him not to disappear on him while heās talking to him#and how they both didnāt become the fathers wanted#well in casās caseā¦ Angel lol#so yah#idk this scene is really emotional to me and I think thee point in time cas starts to feeeeeeeel#idk. I love this scene a lot lol
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1. Jack isn't really holding back here. His anger definitely gets the better of him. Poor gas station clerk.
2. Cas immediately moves to restrain him. (Cas has rightfully determined that now's not the time for a lecture.) Meanwhile, Jack: "get out of the way, angel-dad!" (who it's okay to be rough with, because we're more equal in physique). And symbolically, it's a crotch/waist hit, too, which symbolizes Jack overpowering Heaven-Father, which is a big warning sign within a family unit:
3. Earth-Dad Dean gets Jack's attention with an equalizing force. (Humans use tools to become powerful enough to take on forces bigger than themselves, after all.) This seems to snap Jack out of it.
But importantly, it's not even symbolically at the level of stun gun. It's like a little whoopin' or even a foghorn blared, just enough to get his attention. (It doesn't phase him.)
4. Next, Jack first looks to Cas, appealing to him, like "you approve of my violence, don't you?" But when he doesn't, Jack looks to Mentor-Dad-Sam, and Sam gets to deliver a voice of reason. Meanwhile, gas station guy is shaken to hear about Maggie.
Throughout all this, Sam mostly stands around yelling and acting shocked! Whereas Dean and Cas simply...aren't. Much like in Tombstone, when Cas somberly asks, post-security-guard shooting, "if this has happened before." Cas and Dean seem generally more acknowledging of the danger Jack's power poses.
5. Ashamed at his violent overreaction, and at being wrong, Jack rushes out. Dean thinks Jack's needs to be alone to stew. Perhaps, heās right. Jack tends to need space to process, akin to Dean and Mary.
But maybe Cas's instincts are more on the money here, that Jack is fragile and needs to have the support of people around? Itās hard to say, since Lucifer finding him was very unusual, unfortunate happenstance.
Again though, Cas and Dean seem to be more on the same page in terms of not reeling from shock, but immediately acting to respond.
were you the one who called dean shooting jack to get his attention a spanking because I can't stop thinking about that lol
I did! In this instance, it's only the visual of pulling a gun on your child that's bad IMHO. Because Jack is unleashing angelic, overpowered rage on an innocent minumum-wage-gas-station-worker! Cas moves to full-body tackle Jack, and Jack throws his angel-dad across the room.
Only then does Dean pull the gun and give him a lil' whoopin'!
#spn parenting#asks#dean/cas + parenting#sam + lectures#cas + angel father#dean + earth dad#sam + mentor dad#sam + conscience#dean + equalizer#tfw + the violent adolescent
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"when did destiel sex happen for the first time?" i love that i'm living so far in my own obscure deluded doomed by the narrative canon-compliant version of surprisingly wholesome but tragic destiel that the only right answer isn't even an option on polls: stanford era.
#deancas#it's like.#you're in a car with an ugly old angel and he looks at you like he has loved and known you for years but you just met#and he wont tell you that he's hiding something from you but he's hiding something from you#and he reaches over and you let him hit bc you're lonely and he's saying all the things you wish your father told you#like he discovered a belief in a future where you'll have eye crinkles and your brother at your side and a home with your own bedroom#and you feel your heart taking root in your body until one day you wake up with a headache and no memory of him or the past 2 months at ALL#and you never have time to wonder about it bc its october 2005 and you have 327 episodes of horrors ahead of you#and they all happen exactly like they do on screen. destiel was real but it was also dead before the story even started#(other than that they only had sex in purgatory which dean came to regret bc it made him realize he's not into cas like that#and he had only invited him to his benny fuckfest bc they're friends and it seemed rude not to)#and dean never ever learns that they once were lovers. and for cas there's nothing to remember bc it hasnt happened to him yet#its beautiful. to me.#also slightly embarrassing for me as a person but nevermind that
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āthe imperfect familyā
#show us your sims#sims 4#ts4#ts4 cas#my sims#simblr#sims 4 screenshots#omgomgomg#i have written this family specifically charlĀæ/es in my notes for a while#i finally made THEM the way I imagined them aaaa#miguel the father is a general in military who is now also a president in cooperdale townā¦#i like to imagine that cooperdale is close from strangerville like about 1h n half ride#and oh yeahā¦ miguel is pure evilā¦#the whole family actuallyā¦ except charl/Āæes :0#anika the mother own a successful bakery-#definitely her husband throwing all his $$$ for her business as well#ngl but she make sweets decorated of jewelry :0#jane the daughter is a spoiled little brat lookin angelic#ironically to add- she is lactose intolerant :0#charl/Āæes thoā¦#welp not spoiling much but he is. different.#miguel reed#anika reed#jane reed#charles reed#flawtown#cas!#flawtowncitizen
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like. cas and anna are soooo.
like anna is the big sister who realized her family's abuse and was able to get out though not unscathed. cas sees anna and wants to be free but is so afraid of the consequences. im considering disobedience. good.
and like. cas realizing that he can CHOOSE. he can choose. he can be free like anna. but anna had to sacrifice everything she knew and start over. and that's so so scary.
for the first time I feel. it gets worse.
like!!! that's such an insane line. cas was never meant to feel, never meant to experience his life outside of his family. and anna says that's good! it's gonna hurt like a son of a bitch! but it's good. I can show u the way. u won't be alone.
#family is hell show!!!!#the angels in this show is just like šµāš«šµāš«šµāš«#like they're a family. they control each other. their father abandoned them. they kill each other. they want to be free but dont know how.#im about to fall asleep but i needed to !!! about this real quick#castiel#anna milton#cas and anna#spn#mine#abuse tw
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Very strange to me that the longer supernatural went on, the kinder it was to John Winchester and the uglier it made Chuck.
Thereās something very. I donāt know. āDonāt blame your father, your father never did anything wrong. Blame God. Blame this thing thatās been secretly making your life worse this whole time, pulling the strings, controlling you and everyone around you.ā
And the further we get into the show, the more Chuck becomes a Writer, rather than it being about God as a Father. (Never completely losing that aspect, obviously, just like Chuck was always a writer, but one of these parallels clearly superceded the other in terms of importance to the story.)
#this isnāt John winchester crit āhe was a terrible monster we should blame for everythingā post tbc#itās about how the show lost its teeth about fatherhood right when it needed them most. and it still gives some bangers! but. this big one.#this big one flops for me.#idk maybe its just a side effect of 2/4 of the archangels being dead. Lucifer not being a real character anymore. Michael busy being gay.#like who is Chuck supposed to father figure to here? I mean thereās cas but that was never the same relationship as the archangels to god.#angels to god fatherhood relationship v different. explored in different ways.#and I mean Chuck himself is just a cartoon villain by the end too. thereās v little nuance left in him.#I guess there could have been something with Jack. oh the good spn in my head where Chuck butts into the Jack custody battle.#is this child a threat to him? better make sure heās loved as The Best Grandad Ever.#there could have been one thing the winchesters & Lucifer could team up/agree about: get Chuck the fuck away from Jack#anyway I digress. just thinking thoughts.#spn#chuck shurley#john winchester
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So yesterday I was working on my honey!Cas time travel story (working as in thinking about it, what the hell is writing?) and I was trying to think up what conclusions would Dean get about a Cas that's not explaining anything and just saying weird shit and somewhere between "he probably escaped the looney bin" and "am I traveling with a freaking psychic???" there was the government experiment theory which took me down a rabbit hole and I ended up with a stranger things AU where all the angels are experimental subjects and Chuck, their "father", is the main scientist that just tells them shit like they are angels so they believe they have to follow him and shit and there is a lot of mistery around what happened between Michael and Lucifer and everyone probably thinks Luci is dead but nah, he surely is the one making a mess between the realities and of course Cas is our Eleven stand in, the little rebel who ran away. And Michael does some shit too, of course. because I love Michael, like he is probably the one that makes the mess in the lab that allowed Cas (and others) to escape. Ooooooh maybe Luci and Michael have like a psychic bond, two sides of the same coin or something like that. Meanwhile Cas is just trying to survive and save the Winchester's asses. They're also not kids bc idk, I don't like kids, they're all at the very least in their twenties.
This is just word vomit omg, but it could be so good...
I'm gonna think more about it
#supernatural x stranger things AU#all the angels being basically brainwashed by their father just gives me VIBES#Let Michael Kill God agenda#and give Cas a good reason to be my lil weirdo#supernatural#spn#castiel#michael supernatural#the cat rambles
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it's like. ok sam wants freedom so he can have his own autonomy and prove everyone who says he's destined to become evil wrong, dean wants freedom so he can see himself as more than just a soldier and have a normal life, and cas wants freedom so he can make his own choices outside of what the angels command him to do
but rowena and crowley want freedom so they can have control over their own circumstances because it's something they never had previously. they know what it's like to be at the mercy of other people and to feel weak, so they live their lives chasing after power at any cost because they've sworn to never return to that
#does htis make sense??? im not saying that dean wasnt made to feel like a lesser person by john or that cas never resetned naomi and the#other angels for controllign him but. with rowena and crowley they still kind of have some bitterness about it i think. like they never#actually let it go. htey have so much more power now that it cant really be stripped from them but that memory of beign weak never truly#leaves them. crowley will alwyas remember what it was like to be abandoned by rowena and rowena will always remember how it was to be taken#advantage of by crowley's father. and that's why they do the hsit that they do#supernatural#spn#rowena macleod#crowley macleod#crowley spn#the pig squeals#spn spoilers
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lily sunder has some regrets is well written and directed. kripke fuckers hate to see later seasons episodes be good!
#like it's genuinely a good cas episode#learning more about cas's past + how he always was uncomfortable with heavens rules#the set up to becoming a father to a nephil. a species he was told needed to die#the shots of cas dying dean lowering his hand from the sigil because he won't risk killing cas and then ishim going in#ANGEL GENDER TALK#it would have been better if uriel was there but we can't get everything we want#op.txt
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literally don't listen to the oh hellos valley album if thinking about sam winchester makes u feel anything because those songs are so fucking samcoded it'll tear ur heart out
#listening to second child restless child like šš¶#IN MEMORIAM BUT INSTEAD OF A SON RETURNING TO A FATHER.#it's well. you know.#I actually related some of them to cas but those two are like š¤#WISHING WELL??? OUGHHHH#i made mistakes do i even need to delve#that entire album can go into a Sam playlist unedited#if u can't tell I'm currently crying listening to this album ATM#i don't talk about sam enough but if i cared about him less i could talk about him more#but srsly the thing about sam and cas is that they do both want salvation. some forgiveness.#assurance that they're not some broken evil thing meant for nothing more than proving time and time again that that's all they'll ever be#and that assurance hinges on dean wayyyyy too much but that's another conversation#monstrous. other. that's THEM and they ache with want to repent but. how can u repent unless u change?#so sam attempts to mold himself into a normal shape stuff his self into a cardboard cutout of what he THINKS is correct#and we know cas is like is a drawing is done and then someone hit the erase all button over and over#but once he escapes the lobotomies he is still trying to be something else to some extent. he couldn't be a good angel#so he tries to be a good human but he can't even achieve that much so he's left looking in from the outside and#tells himself it's not that cold out anyway that this suits him better#does dean know why cas lingers at the doorway. does he know that sam is scraping at his walls fit to burst.#anyway the whole world would benefit from a more fleshed out sastiel relationship regardless of what kind#im in my feelings rn sorry for spn posting do u still think im hot :/#cee's bullshit
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OH MAN I have so many thoughts about this episode bc it's soooooooooooooo. the DEAN STUDIES of it all.
OKAY. so. Dean's gonna say yes to Michael, right? and all the people he loves are like fuck no man what are you talking about it's gonna kill you. so what does he do?
he pushes them all away.
he exaggerates everything he hates about himself and assumes other people hate too. because Dean's the kind of guy who is emotionally intelligent enough and empathetic enough to know exactly what to do to comfort someone or to say what he knows they need to hear, he can do the opposite too. he knows exactly what buttons to push that would be most painful.
so he tells Bobby that he's not his father.
he keeps bringing up that Sam drank demon blood. his great betrayal that if the tables were turned, Dean would let him rot in Bobby's panic room. that he had let him rot.
he's trying to get them angry.
and Cas? well. last time he thought it was the end of the world, he brought Cas to a brothel. he wanted him to have pleasure before he died. he didn't consider himself an option for that. here? he's propositioning Cas bc he thinks Cas would be repulsed by it. it's not that he doesn't want it, it's because he does want it, that he thinks Castiel, angel of the Lord, guardian of faith and everything good and righteous, would see the thing he buries deep inside with the rest of the rot and let him sacrifice himself in peace.
he's doing it on purpose.
with Bobby and Sam, he's digging up old wounds to get them to hate him. to remind them he's a bad person, bc they clearly forgot. but Cas is the only one he's speaking the truth to. Bobby is his father. he forgave Sam long ago. he's digging these up to get them to hate him enough to let him go.
but with Cas, the thing he does to try to get Cas to hate him is to show him this thunderous rot deep in his core. this desperation for love and touch and comfort, all from an angel in the vessel of a man. disgusting, right? who could love something like this when he lays it out bare like that. who could love someone who uses the weakness of your care and form against you like this. sending him back to heaven when he fears Dean is hurt.
he's saying, this is who I am. look at it right in the face. this is the truth of it, Cas. I want you. isn't that awful?
Cas?
crazy that in the same episode that we got the lines āblow me casā and āyou know cas, not for nothing but the last time someone looked at me like that, I got laidā is the same episode that dean is wanting to give up and say yes to michael. he doesnāt care anymore about what he says or what people think, so heās just saying what he wants and acting like he doesnāt care about anything. crazy how when he thinks heās going to die soon that he starts saying what he actually thinks because he thinks it wonāt matter soon. crazy we got TWO flirty comments when he thinks heāll never see cas again!!!
#dean studies#dean winchester meta#spn meta#destiel meta#spn 05x18#05x18#point of no return#mine.txt#then Cas immediately goes and challenges a flight of angels to give Bobby and Sam more time to stop Dean's suicidal plan.#bc he thinks Dean is making fun of him I think#he leaves him with Bobby and Sam because Cas thinks Dean can't even take his care and objections seriously#instead shoving his OWN worst fear back in his face: that this pure and holy warrior of god would betray the holy host for one man#āI don't think angels can care like that. they aren't built for it. it just... breaks them apartā#- Mr. Dean Winchester. the righteous man who believes the rot deep inside him ruined a literal beacon of pure good.#anyway. i think about this episode a lot. and about how Dean's go-to is to try to make the people around him see himself as he does.#the numb blankness in his expression when he tells Bobby he isn't his father. the way he had to shut himself off completely to say it to hi#the way he's entirely blindsided by Bobby's reaction - to fight for him and for their relationship instead of just letting him die.#he wasn't expecting it.#he's used to people falling for it. and yet.#and yet.#also part of my ādean is closeted but not repressedā manifesto. dean is incredibly self-aware. he knows he's queer. & he weaponizes it.
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ngl i love my girl anna but the reason cas was more compelling is that he was arcing into doubt
there is a better post somewhere but cas is confused about his loyalties, lending intense tension that fed the pre-existing themes
EDIT: all i'm saying is there is more natural tension in a person coiled/standing on the precipice than there is in the one already splayed on the ground
#there was a better post somewhere#anna was already sure of herself mostly#her dialogue was also often carved out in a very knowing#mouthpiece style#and i love her but it was sometimes very preachy#all the same there is INHERENT tension in cas's motifs and it's NO SURPRISE his arc was more in-line with the show#her best scenes were anna arguing with cas#and her anger at his betrayal cause those are the moments where she felt more real#i would have given my left kidney to see the circumstances of her fall#and the tension of her clawing her way back up the building towards heaven instead of being drop-kicked back up there#see if cas was in the PROCESS of losing faith and falling#anna needed a more fascinating *natural march toward re-discovering faith in her heavenly mission#her total lack of good dialogue concerning the death of her human parents was a miss for me...it should have been an underlined theme#SHOW ME THE AGONY ANNA#the difference between human parents and heavenly ones#that's what i wanted to see from her even more than her speeches about absent fathers and heartless angels#I'm talking YOU KILLED MY PARENTS versus ...they weren't your parents etc#anna was not merely female cas...they're comapred and contrasted yes but not the same#cas had more in common with michael even...good son good soldier motif
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Something no one would like: John lives in the Jessifer fic and he's sorting himself out in parallel to the devil.
#Azazel lets John keep his soul gets Jessifer's body in exchange and abandons his task of finding a righteous man to sass Lucifer 24/7#And John gets some permanent disability as a treat but he's achieved his revenge plot and he's still alive with two grown sons#And yeah Sam is gonna build that anger issue way faster with John in the Impala. But John has to deal with how he broke Dean.#Sam is fighting tooth and nail to get normalcy with Jess and Dean is just gonna keep bunking with John#John's hand is mutilated and he can't shoot so Dean never hands him guns only knives or flashlights. Asks his dad to research the lore.#They get two rooms - Jessifer and Sam and Dean bunks with John. Why would he want his own room? What if something goes after Dad?#Jessifer the violated daughter seeking restoration and direct vengeance on God no matter the cost#John the father who with the very best intentions destroyed his boys and is trying to fix it while fate (and his DIL) fight against him#The angels are gonna be so weird about John. Yeah Jessifer is weird about him but Anna Cas and Gabriel deserve to effigy him too#...Michael could have Four Fucking Vessels thanks to John and his two bastards. Yes Jo Gets To Find Out After Dean Tries To Fuck Her.#Anyway can't wait to give Bela some Christ imagery <3
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Kelly is pretty damning proof that cas is gay. Like. If I was writing a tv show on the cw. And an angel tries to convince a woman to get his evil brotherās baby aborted. And then goes. Wait. Never mind. Iāll be his father. And youāre his mother. And then goes on the run with her. I WOULD have them kiss chastely (sheās pregnant and this is the cw) and say some teary lines about enjoying the limited time they have together. I didnāt know your mother very long but I loved her the entire time I knew her. Etc. but instead she full names him till the end and he very much serves womanās gay friend who she makes come with her to the car dealership so she doesnāt get scammed because her husband is busy and would be jealous if she did that with a straight man
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Vote Castiel pls
#like buffy is iconic and my babygirl#but CAS#he's an angel he's gay he's a war criminal he's a father he invented free will he's in love#he made himself who he is and he made himself into someone who puts love before all else#how do you not support cas?
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Me describing characters from Supernatural without ever watching it, based on what I could put together from random tumblr posts
Dean Winchester:
older brother
bi and the closet is glass
psycho-sexual relationship with his car
has a doctor kink
divorced married divorced married widowed by an angel
DADDY ISSUES
don't do this cas
was in hell at one point
shoulder hand print
red-blooded all american hunter manwhore
Sam Winchester:
younger brother
flannel
straight representation (except Gabriel I guess)
Third wheel
dropped out of uni
was engaged to a blond woman (RIP)
a literal walking death sentence to anyone who kisses him
party city wig
was possesed???
the one with common sense???
Castiel:
gay angel
world's saddest eyes
wet soggy orphan beagle
victim of the trench coat epidemic
powerful, but idk about where he lands on the scale
was brainwashed???
the daddy-est of issues (is his father god?)
YOU CHANGED ME DEAN
fish out of water
ditched heaven for the beauty of humanity (Dean's dick)
Jack Supernatural:
destiel child
may or may not be a new god
something celestial
floppy sad boi hair
Gabriel:
just here to have fun do drugs and flirt
trauma
Loki?
Sam's Man Crush Monday
had his lips sewn together at one point
is he dead-dead? or just dead to the writers?
Daddy Winchester:
did not know what he looked like until I went to google the pictures
the worst person to ever exist despite having god and the devil on this show
left the sons the trauma factory that is the family hunting business which killed their mom
doesn't know what hugging looks like probably
Various female-looking objects:
dead girlfriends
beards
that one redhead that called Dean a pussy for not knowing what fifth base is (she seems fun)
another redhead that played Poppy in The Magicians and almost killed Quentin (that I for some reason thought was from Doctor Who)
evil angel girlboss??
This was my contribution for this years November 5th celebration
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