#can be interpreted platonically or romantically!! or queerplatonically!!

[mayhasopinions]

they r so stupid

[many-gay-magpies]

a payneland fic i read recently used the phrase "as easy as breathing" to describe charles loving edwin/edwin and charles loving each other, and of course at first i thought, well that's ironic. they're ghosts, they don't even need to breath anymore. but then... really, that just makes the metaphor fit even more. being ghosts, edwin and charles don't need to breath anymore, but they CHOOSE to, even doing so on purpose in moments of high tension to soothe both themselves and each other. in the same way, them loving each other is easy... automatic, like a leftover reflex from when they were alive (even though they never knew each other living). loving each other is as easy as breathing, but they choose to breath, just like they have chosen, over and over again for thirty years, to stay together. to love each other.

[theartsynebulawhodoodles]

“𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘰𝘯𝘦 𝘪𝘴 𝘫𝘶𝘴𝘵 𝘢𝘴 𝘣𝘦𝘢𝘶𝘵𝘪𝘧𝘶𝘭 𝘢𝘴 𝘺𝘰𝘶.”

❀fatal error and lavender sans art❀

cuties!! i love them, wish to see them more!

dividers from sister Lucifer or other creator who labeled it reblog/like/free to use, fatal error belongs to xedramon, lavender belongs to valavender (from what i read on toybox)

[jayisgay]

I don't get the discourse about grimpop tbh. has no one heard of a queerplatonic relationship before

[bpdqu33n]

Kel's 14th birthday

Kel stood in his room. What day was it? What month was it? Did it even matter?

He heard a knock at his door,followed by someone yelling his name. He went downstairs to check who it was.

It was Aubrey. She really changed her appearance a LOT in that one year. She bleached her hair,she seemingly ran out of toner half way through though,so it had orange patches. She wore her bow as a hair tie,somehow.

She had a box of a dozen cupcakes. They resembled white bunnies with pink bows as bows.

"Uhh,you okay,Kel??? You look kinda disheveled..." Aubrey said,snapping Kel out of his trance.

"Uhh,yeah,I'm fine! Come on in!" Kel blurted out. He quickly looked at his hair. It was more matted then a mat,well,it would be considering that he didn't brush or cut his hair for one YEAR.

Aubrey entered the house,and shut the door.

"Kay! Want some??" Aubrey says,offering the box to Kel.

"Sure!" Kel took a bite out of one of the cupcakes...they were really good! When did Aubrey learn to bake?

Aubrey was already stuffing her face with 2 of them.

"Aubreeey." Kel gave her a playful glare,earning a laugh out of her.

"Sorry- These are just really good!" Aubrey said with her mouth full,spraying crumbs all over the couch.

"Woooow,way to compliment yourself!" Kel playfully told her off.

"Bleh,whatever!" Aubrey said,crossing her arms.

"...So,what do you wanna do?" Kel asked.

"Wanna bake something?"

"Yeah! What do you wanna bake?"

"Garlic bread!"

"You be one of them aces?" Kel asked,giving Aubrey a curious glance.

"Hell yeah!" Aubrey half-yelled,throwing her arms in the air.

"Me too!" Kel said,smiling.

The two got up,and proceeded to start making garlic bread. They started eating it like they hadn't eaten in 4 weeks.

After that,the two layed on the couch,and fell asleep. Kel moved like a damn rotiserie chicken until he found a comfortable postion,meanwhile Aubrey was laying right on the edge,about to fall off.

What more can I say? This was how Kel's 14th Birthday went.

[altis-of-olympia]

Godspousal and my practice

Godspousal is a topic I covered very frequently on my old blog, Light of Delphi. This was back when I was fully devoted to Lord Apollon, before I was taken under King Zeus’s wing and served Him. However, just because my path has shifted does not mean I am no longer spoused to Him - in fact, the whole reason I didn’t talk about it on this blog was due to fear of backlash or being told that I was making things up in my head. However, to combat the stigma surrounding godspousal, it’s important to talk about it. So here I am, talking about it. 

Any hate will not be tolerated and will result in a block.

Godspousal is going to be a different experience for everyone. I could talk for hours about the different aspects of Godspousal, but for now, I will focus on my own experiences with it. In my experience, it’s something beautiful. 

Two years ago, I solidified my godspousal with Lord Apollon. You could equate this to getting married. There wasn’t much of a ceremony because I was in a home where my practice was closeted, but I plan on having a little ceremony this year because I have the means to do so! What I plan on doing is having a little ritual to celebrate our two years together, involving music, meditation, baking, and spending time out in the sun.

I consider myself mostly connected to His arts, music, and oracular aspects, though I cherish the darker parts of Him as well. But because of my connection to His warmer parts, He feels a lot more distant during the colder months. During this time, I do find myself mourning His presence. It is during this time that I will rely on devotional jewelry and the arts to keep Him with me. 

Once it gets warmer out, however, I am at the top of my game! My Spring Semester grades are always better than the Fall, my motivation increases ten fold, and I generally just feel more alive. This didn’t happen as intensely before my Godspousal. Lord Apollon feels much closer during the warmer months, especially during the summer. I associate Him with Cancer and Leo because of this. 

But before I continue, what exactly is Godspousal?

What is Godspousal?

The concept of Godspousal does exist in other religions. I have seen people compare being a Nun to Godspousal, which, in my opinion, is a bit of a stretch, but does make sense. There are no explicit ties to Hellenic Polytheism, though. Because of this, a lot of recon HelPols may stray away from it or shun it as a whole (though, its mostly elitists who do the latter). Godspousal is essentially when one takes a vow or makes an oath to dedicate oneself to a God for however long. Typically, it’s the rest of their life, or for this life and the next. It varies from practitioner to practitioner. 

I find Hellenic ties to Godspousal in myths. When Lord Apollon finds a mortal lover like Hyacinthus or Cyprus, I see godspousal. When Lord Dionysos fell in love with Ariadne, I see godspousal. When King Zeus fell in love with Ganymede, I see Godspousal. Especially in the way that Ganymede then served King Zeus as a cupbearer. These aren’t explicitly Godspousal relationships, but I choose to interpret them as such. My interpretation does not make it fact, it just means that I feel more comfortable in my own relationship with Lord Apollon because of it. 

One can be a godspouse in a variety of ways. It can be familial, it can be queerplatonic, or just platonic, or it can be romantic. I like to call it a lifetime devotion that isn’t Priesthood. Not everyone wants to be a Priest, so they may choose Godspousal in its stead. 

I only have experience with romantic godspousal, though. And I’ve found it to be a very rewarding experience. While no, I will not claim that Lord Apollon comes and sits beside me and we watch movies together, I will say that we spend time together. I feel His presence often, especially when I am engaging in mundane activities. That's how I know He's there and wants to spend time with me. I spend time with Him, physically in meditations and dreams. Recently, it's mostly been meditations, as I haven't been remembering my dreams.

In meditations, we have our space. It's personal to me, so I won't share it. But that is where the majority of our time together is spent. That is where the physicality of our relationship comes in. Sometimes, I will say “just cuddled with my Godspouse,” but I really mean I laid in the sun and felt His loving warmth. That is different from my meditations. If people are interested, and if Lord Apollon consents, I can always make a little series about some of our moments together. But that's off topic.

Godspousal and my Practice

Lord Apollon has been a major help in my practice. He has always been in my life. From the very start. I took up music, acting, dance, I did archery, and it only made sense that Lord Apollon showed up in my life. I was 10 when He made Himself known to me. From there, our bond has only gotten stronger. 

He taught me everything I know about divination and encouraged me to branch out. Try new things. I moved from tarot to pendulums, pendulums to oracle cards, and developed my clairaudience under His guidance. He taught me that offerings don't always have to be things, they can be actions. Through other people, He gifted me tarot cards and oracle decks that I still use to this day. He helped me learn how to trust my intuition and gut. Lord Apollon has been my teacher since the start of my practice.

Three years ago, though, Lord Apollon used to drop hints towards Godspousal. I was finding a lot more information about it on my feed, people would talk to me about it, and I’d meet a lot more people who were godspoused to different deities. It was becoming far more prominent in my life, and my readings continued to allude toward a romantic relationship in coming, which was… odd. I was already in a committed relationship, I didn’t quite know what it meant. That was, until I saw a video from another creator explaining Godspousal in its entirety. 

I asked Lord Apollon right after if He had been asking me to be His Godspouse. To court Him. He said yes. This led to a roughly year-long process of us getting closer, finding the boundaries in our relationship, and settling into what we have now. Two years ago, we made it “official” sometime in June. I forgot to write the date down, so we ended up attributing the Summer Solstice to our anniversary. 

Lord Apollon plays a major role in my practice, even more so now, with some things I will be announcing soon. He has led my hand in divination since I started. He has patiently guided me along my path and has kept me from falling too badly. And now, He comforts me when I’m alone. He praises me when I’m happy. When I bathe in the sun, I feel enveloped in warmth and love. He is always there, now.  This means that, in my practice, He has a very heavy influence in my actions. Even before I became a Priest for King Zeus, I asked Lord Apollon for His approval. I double checked everything with Him, I asked Him countless times if the path I was walking was right. It feels almost like I’m learning how to ride a bike, and He’s let go of the handlebars and is letting me find my balance, but He’s still there. He’s always there, in case I fall. He is a lover to me, more than anything.

Questions

“Probably a simple ask but what does it feel like? How do you know? Is it very meditation and intuition based or sign based or otherwise?”

It feels like joy. It feels like care, appreciation, warmth. Though every bond is bound to be different. My bond with Lord Apollon may be different from someone else’s bond with Lord Apollon. I am more attached to His art, light, and divinatory aspects. Someone else may be spoused to His darker aspects, it truly depends on the bond. He gave me signs that I was quite blind to, but the signs will typically do the trick. If you’re paying attention, you’ll see them. And if not, well, they’ll get significantly more blunt.

“I'm interested in knowing how you balance godspousal with everything else in your life!”

Godspousal plays a role in… most of my life. I am never not thinking about Lord Apollon. The biggest balance point comes into play with my physical romantic relationships. My partner is fully aware of my Godspousal, always has been. He thinks it’s adorable. In the past, he has said he hopes to show me the physical love that Lord Apollon may not be able to. And truly, he’s quite good at it. But I don’t typically struggle to balance things; it’s really just a matter of knowing when to disconnect myself from the divine or my relationship with Him. 

“How did you know it was right for you? Do you have any advice for those who are considering it?”

I knew it was right for me because it was something I thought about often. I thought it out, I considered it heavily, and I did research on it. The majority of your research will be through devotional blogs and similar things, personal WordPress blogs, etc. You have to take everything with a grain of salt. And I mean this specifically for Godspousal through a Hellenic Polytheistic lens, not generally. You can then draw your own conclusions and form your own opinions on Godspousal based on the UPG you find and the dynamics you see. But please think about it before you act - you shouldn’t run into it blindly. 

“Can you have a friends with benefits type relationship with your deities or is that illegal”

Well, I wouldn’t call it Illegal. It isn’t a bond I’ve had - in my own personal opinion, sex with a God isn’t quite something one can do, at least not on the physical plane. It would be a discussion of boundaries and dynamics between you and the God you are spoused to. I am also not the authority on Godspousal. If you so choose to have this kind of relationship, so be it, but I am not personally sure how one would maintain a relationship like this with a God.

“I have a question. How does one start godspusal? I'm just curious. Is it like, "hey, let's get married", or does it just gradually develop with the kharis IF you want to? Also, what are the consequences of ending it, if there are? Like, suddenly stopping.”

Communication is my answer! Communicating with the God you would like to spouse. I typically operate under the idea that the God should be the one to approach you about Spousal, not the other way around, though there is no reason why you can’t. It’s just a me thing, I suppose. But communication will be your best friend. For me, it gradually developed and moved in that direction. If you end it, I don’t see why there would be consequences? If you find that it isn’t for you, communicate with your God. Every relationship will be different. 

I truly hope this post was informational! Please feel free to ask me further questions - I love discussing Godspousal with others. My love for Lord Apollon is bright and fiery. Sharing this love makes me happy.  Xaire, Altis.

[mlbfemslashfebruary]

Miraculous Ladybug Femslash February 2025 is now here…! 

All main girls get at least one or two pairs, but some are more popular in this chart than others. Once again, f/f starring older female characters are double-booked to allow more pairings.

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Rules:

• Any fanart, fic, playlist, or edit is welcomed in this event. Just tag your work #mlbfemslashfebruary or @ this blog so your work can be reblogged here!

• You don’t have to follow all the key words or ships for each day, they’re just prompts to help the creative process.

• If you have another femslash pairing you want to write over a certain day’s theme, go ahead! This includes creating content for poly femslash ships.

• Please no male characters or m/m ships that are genderbended. Male characters and slash ships get much more attention in fandom spaces than female characters and femslash ships. This event is supposed to help elevate femslash content, which is much rarer in fandom (and especially lacking in Miraculous Ladybug outside of a small handful of ships.)

• This event is meant to be for romantic pairings, but you can also write platonic or queerplatonic interpretations.

• No NSFW content will be reblogged for this event, but can still be created and posted on your own time.

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Below is also a written out list of the prompts, for accessibility purposes and in case the image is too hard to see.

[Image ID: A calendar for February 2025 filled with prompts for Miraculous Ladybug Femslash February 2025. Each day has two prompt words and one f/f pairing, with some days instead having two f/f pairings to showcase adult women f/f. Prompt words are bulleted using hearts in the image.

Day 1

• Ambition • Start

Alya/Marinette

Day 2

• Faithful • Lily

Kagami/Juleka

Day 3

• Equation • Daisy

Chloe/Sabrina

Day 4

• Manners • Poppy

Zoe/Fei

OR Emilie/Nathalie

Day 5

• Separation • Iris

Marinette/Kagami

Day 6

• Lion • Clover

Ondine/Kagami

OR Miss Bustier/Giselle

Day 7

• Start • Lilac

Juleka/Marinette

Day 8

• Harbor • Rose

Alya/Zoe

Day 9

• Obligation • Apple

Kagami/Alya

Day 10

• Abandon • Kiwi

Chloe/Lila

Day 11

• String • Grape

Zoe/Juleka

OR Anarka/Penny

Day 12

• Impact • Blueberry

Marinette/Chloe

Day 13

• Screen • Orange

Aeon/Alya

OR Nora/Clara Nightingale

Day 14

FREE SLOT

Day 15

• Opinion • Peach

Alya/Sabrina

Day 16

• Yearn • Dragon

Kagami/Chloe

Day 17

• Urgency • Queen

Chloe/Alya

Day 18

• Respect • Tower

Zoe/Mylene  

OR Miss Bustier/Ms. Mendeleiev

Day 19

• Intention • Prophecy

Marinette/Zoe

Day 20

• Finish • Quest

Rose/Mylene

OR Anarka/Claudie

Day 21

• Unity • Hero

Marinette/Socqueline

Day 22

• Legend • Witch

Alya/Lila

Day 23

• Comfortable • Dawn

Kagami/Zoe

Day 24

• Undertake • Dusk

Chloe/Alix

Day 25

• Pillow • Midnight

Zoe/Jess

OR Olympia/Barbara

Day 26

• Issue • Noon

Marinette/Lila

Day 27

• Disclose • Morning

Aurore/Mireille

OR Amelie/Nathalie

Day 28

• Sweater • Evening

Juleka/Rose

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[taliesin-the-bored]

Tag game: tag nine people you’d like to know better.

Tagged by: @oneshoulderangel (Thank you for tagging me!)

Last song: At the moment, I have "Losing Your Memory" by Alan Star stuck in my head, which I suppose makes it my current song, not my last song. Hm. I get songs stuck in my head very easily, but the last one I had there for a significant amount of time was a mashup of different language versions of "Les Rois du Monde" for about a week. "Lehetsz Király", the Magyar version, is probably my favorite of them. It's worth a listen.

Currently watching: Normally, the answer would be "random mostly terrible old movies/shows" or "nothing much", but I currently have a hyperfixation on the musical Roméo et Juliette and have been watching it in multiple languages. (Thus, the song).

Three ships: This is hard. Maybe as a result of being on the ace and aro spectrums, I'm more likely to care about which characters are interacting than whether it's romantic or platonic. Here goes:

Kedivere/Bedikay. It can be romantic, platonic, or queerplatonic, but whichever way, I'm here for it. I probably spend too much time thinking about how in Cullwch and Olwen, when Cai gets mad at Arthur and marches out, Bedwyr stays behind, keeps acting like nothing's happened, and isn't the one to avenge Cai's death. The feeling of betrayal on both sides has a lot of unexplored potential. And the version where Bedivere dies and Kay fights to bring his body back safely while mortally wounded himself... And the version where Bedivere survives Camlann and Kay isn't said to fight in it, so they might be left together after their world has fallen apart...

Platonically or queerplatonically, Galahad and the Grail Heroine. I really like the tragic Grail Quest friendships, but I like theirs most, maybe because there's something weird and otherworldly about them both. I like it when characters are strange and endearing and doomed by the narrative.

Ever since reading John Matthews' retelling, which I read before the original, I've had a soft spot for Caradoc and Guinier. The Story of Caradoc is very disturbing, and I have some major qualms with Caradoc over a detail Matthews cut out, but all the same, there's a reason these two have the best track record with magical fidelity tests. Each of them would go to the ends of the earth for the other, and together, they're stronger than any curse.

Favorite Color: Blue, particularly royal blue and some teals.

Currently consuming: Black licorice with chocolate.

First ship: This is a hard one, since through elementary and most of middle school, I tended to go along with whatever I thought the author's intentions were and was more likely to unship something. The first non-endgame ship I got invested in was Sonya/Nikolai in War and Peace. I didn't like Nikolai, but Sonya did, and she was my favorite character, so I wanted her to be happy. The first non-canon couple I thought was meant to be together was also in War and Peace: Marya Bolkonskaya and Julie Karagina. My eighth grade self did not think their letters could be interpreted platonically. I still don't.

Last movie: If the musical doesn't count, the last movie I watched was Quest for Camelot, which was awful. Though not Robot Monster-level bad, Robot Monster has an elegance to its simplicity which Quest for Camelot lacks.

Currently working on: Various fics, most of them Arthuriana or CotRK-related (I am woefully behind on the Badfic Bingo), and (theoretically) an epic-style poem, though I haven't gotten much of it written for quite a while now.

Tagging: @gawrkin, @emperorcandy, @wildbasil, @gorewound, @knightsofsomethingorother, @ladyminaofcamelot, @tasosotaso, @amashelle, @gingersnaptaff (I have no idea who's been tagged so far, apart from the people on @oneshoulderangel's post, so I apologize for any multi-tags)

[readersregrets]

Oliver x reader NOW 🔫🔪

🪡 *Threadville X Puppet Reader*🪡

You didn't specify, so I'm leaving it up for interpretation, can be read as platonic, queerplatonic, or romantic. Reader is gender-neutral and a “normal” Threadville puppet.

You first met Oliver when you accidentally knocked over a crate of his carrots at Pierre’s.

He immediately apologized like it was his fault, and then helped you pick them all up, complimenting your shirt mid-sentence like it was the most natural thing.

His sunhat must of been way too big for his head that day. He tripped on a garden hose and tried to pretend it was on purpose. You knew better.

After Veena saw him fumbling around you for ten minutes, she immediately decided that You'd be officially invited to their weekly tea parties from now on.

Oliver always brings a little jar of honey with a twine bow on it, labeled with your name.

You once complimented his bowtie, and now he wears that same red polka-dot one every time you're around. He swears it’s just coincidence.

Veena teases him a little, but she’s clearly rooting for him. She gives you both those knowing “old lady matchmaker” glances.

He gets super flustered when you show interest in his garden. He wants you there, please come back- but also he’s worried he’s boring you.

Will 100% give you the “pretty” veggies. Like if a tomato is shaped like a heart or a squash looks oddly perfect, he saves it for you.

Pierre quietly suffers the loss of quality crops from Oliver, he thinks it's cute.

He says he can’t grow flowers, but still tries every year just to surprise you with one. The collection of half withered carnations and daisies he's given you is steadily growing

He’s scared of bees but won’t let them near you. He’ll literally stiff-arm a bee out of your airspace. “I like their honey, not their buzz…”

One time some old furniture collapsed and nearly fell on you, Oliver didn’t think, he just grabbed you and shielded you with his whole body.

Shaky hands after, but a solid voice, “Jeepers, Are you okay?” he barely even notices the tear on his shoulder.

Turns red as a beat when you help patch him up later.

Still has visible stitching on his sleeves from where he got cut trying to get between you and danger.

He plays piano sometimes when he thinks no one’s paying attention. You told him once that his playing sounded “so homely.” He cried about it later. Quietly.

Loves watching rom-coms from your home with you but pretends not to understand the plots just so you’ll explain them to him.

He doesn’t get a lot of your jokes, but your laugh is his favorite sound.

Talks about his siblings a lot, especially Jasper’s old days of mischief and June’s drawings still faintly on the barn walls.

Doesn’t talk about his dad unless he really trusts you. One night during a storm, you sat with him on the cellar steps, and he told you about the first time he planted a seed, and it actually grew.

“He would’ve liked you,” he said, voice quiet. “He liked odd people.”

Theres no confession. He kind of just… melts into the idea of loving you slowly.

Starts offering you gloves when you help, then taking your gloves for you when you’re done. Starts brushing dirt off your cheek like it’s casual.

“You always look good here… I mean-! happy! You look happy! That’s what I meant-!”

Eventually gives you a jar of honey with a freshly cut red tulip on the lid and a small, folded note under it. You open it later and it just says:

‘I think you’re growing on me.’

[liamket]

Day 1 - Love (Platonic/Romantic/Friend)

The trope of this day is Favorite AU! picked my Creatures AU cuz it is a crime that i don't draw them often!

They're sleepy bunnies and wanted to rest, and what better way to take a nap than some cuddles??

thank you @breannasfluff for this fantastic event! im excited to participate :D

(this one is free to interpretation, you can have them as friends, queerplatonic or romatic, whatever you want!)

[theartsynebulawhodoodles]

snail walk

{Color and Delta Art, can be interpreted as platonic, romantic, or queerplatonic}

Color belongs to superyoumna, Delta belongs to AnimatedZorox, dividers from creators who labeled it reblog/like/free to use

[galaxymagitech]

Let me throw out Steph/Cass for the ask game 👀

Ship Ask Game

Oooo okay. So I recently went through a “I need to decide what to think” crisis with them due to the whole WFA mess. But the conclusion: Yeah, I ship it. I love them.

1. What made you ship it? This ship kinda crept up on me, because it just kept appearing as a side pairing. And then when I actually started going deeper into the ship…all I can say is “look at them.”

They are the epitome of “there is no platonic explanation for this.”

When characters are this codependent and crazy about each other, I normally go for queerplatonic shipping over romantic shipping, but…given all the romantic tropes they accidentally do, and how they constantly look like they’re about to kiss? Yeah, I had to go with a romantic interpretation.

2. What are your favorite things about the ship? They are unhinged about each other. So unhinged. I love that for them. I do genuinely think they could be soulmates. I also really like them from the perspective of Cass having a disability—especially one that shares elements with some real-world developmental disabilities—and being a treated as an equal not just on the battlefield or in a friendship but in romance as well. Even when portrayals are otherwise not infantilizing, people with disabilities are often treated as incapable of romance or as not being able to consent, and as an autistic person, I hate that. Cass can have difficulties with language, she can have a disability, and she can be a full adult who is treated like one in every way by those around her. So that potential there is one of my favorite things about the ship.

They’re also just really sweet. I think they bolster each other’s confidence and support each other. If it’s them against the world, they’d win. It’s heartwarming, in my opinion.

And I think the way they act around each other and the way they view each other is very fertile ground for character analysis. They are each other’s “special person,” so what does that mean to each of them individually—and their relationship as a whole?

3. Is there an unpopular opinion you have on your ship? Neither of them is The Caretaker/Responsible One/Emotionally Competent One/Peacemaker/whatever in their relationship, and putting them into those roles does them a disservice. They take care of each other. They both have their moments of emotional competency and incompetency. They’re both messy. They both make mistakes. Sometimes they both make mistakes at the same time. But in my opinion, the dynamics of their relationships have to be highly fluid. They both take on different, and sometimes conflicting, roles at different times.

[weirdly-specific-but-ok]

hot take about silco x vander that no one asked for

okay so it's 3:25 am and i spent too much time in pinterest comment sections so now i have Thoughts and y'all are gonna hear it (this is mostly spoiler free even for s1 but it won't make much sense unless you've watched arcane so go wATCH IT if you haven't). so there were a bunch of posts shipping Silco and Vander and in the comments people were really pissed coz they're said to think of each other as brothers.

TLDR: They did not grow up as brothers, they think of each other as such, and those thoughts can change over time or evolve without it being incestuous (with nuance), and of course it could stay the same too.

and I have a bunch of things to say, starting with for one, some folks were legitimately confused because they thought silco and vander were biological siblings. so, first off, let's get that clarified, they're definitely not. they weren't adopted or step siblings either. they met in their early adulthood, i believe, in the mines.

i'm gonna continue below the cut coz this is gonna be looooong.

now, the thing is, silco and vander explicitly state that they were each other's brothers and/or call each other brother. why? there could be multiple reasons for that. one, that's how they saw each other. they were as close as brothers and they saw each other as family. two, in the sense of being brothers in arms, fighting together against a common cause that brought them closer. three, they felt affection for each other and that was the closest term they knew to describe it. or something else.

and like, i do not mess with found family, that shit is sacred. if someone told me my brother isn't actually my brother because we didn't grow up together or share blood, i would happily punch them in the throat.

HOWEVER, Silco and Vander are fictional characters. so if someone headcanons that their relationship changed, and evolved, that's not disrespectful or incestuous. it just means the person believes that how they saw each other changed. or maybe they didn't realise how it was that they felt for each other. or any number of other things.

and hey listen when i was a teenager in two of my long-term relationships, i thought at the start that what i felt was platonic love. i'd literally call them my brother. because that was the way i knew to describe the intensity of my affection. i was figuring shit out, and then i realised that what i felt was romantic, and not platonic or familial.

does that make it incestuous? well i fucking hope not. i was a queer greyace teen trying to figure out what the fuck i was feeling.

and that's not even toUCHING the surface of queerplatonic feelings. like i had no vocabulary to describe that for most of my life. it was clearcut in my head--romantic, or platonic. and if platonic was very intense, then sibling. that was the only way i knew how to describe it.

and that's changed over the years and now i know a little bit better how i feel, and i have platonic feelings that aren't siblingy, platonic feelings that are very much siblingy, platonic feelings that aren't siblingy but familial anyway like that for a parent, and romantic feelings also of various shades.

but back then, i didn't have that vocabulary and distinctions and self-awareness. and it's entirely plausible for someone to headcanon that maybe Silco and Vander didn't either. maybe people ship them and hc that they had feelings for each other and didn't understand them, that could be romantic or queerplatonic. or had feelings for each other that were familial, but that evolved in a different way later (or in the AU). both of which ARE LEGITIMATE INTERPRETATIONS OF A FICTIONAL RELATIONSHIP WITHOUT IT BEING INCESTUOUS.

anyway so it's entirely chill if you don't ship them but it's also entirely chill if you do. the issue is when you attack people for interpreting a fictional relationship in their own entirely valid way and call it weird or incestuous and attack them as people for their ship. just let people be sigh.

so that's my unnecessarily intense take at--jesus christ it's nearly 4 am. :)

[mar-mots]

I'm not done with this mole hill yet actually. But genuinely as someone who is aspec/arospec and disabled I am deeply side-eyeing the Viktor is Ace discourse right now because I feel like context is being lost in the conversation.

Viktor ace and/or aro headcanons because you think it fits? Sweet. Queerplatonic interpretations of jayvik also perfectly valid. In fact, any interpretations of the two is completely valid because I'm not your mum. Go do whatever you want forever.

You prefer SkyVik? MelJay? MelJayVik? None? Cool. The point is it doesn't matter what other people think. Do what you want forever.

I also don't care if Linke is an aphobe, homophobe, whatever-phobe because I don't know the guy or his inner thoughts and world. I'm not gonna cast too much judgment over uhhh gay shipping.

HOWEVER...

There is an uncomfortable history of making disabled people and characters ace, essentially desexualising them, and treating them as if they aren't people with their own thoughts, their own needs, their own agency.

This is why I'm deeply suspicious of Linke's decision to state this in the context that it was. Was Viktor ace the intent the whole time? Perhaps. But it does feel a little bit like it was an attempt to dissuade jayvik as an interpretation of a text rife with topics and scenes and whatnot that can be heavily up for interpretation.

Long story short is that what we got is not difinitive proof either way that JayVik is canon. What we got is a deeply complicated story of love but whether that love is romantic, platonic, something that transcends either, is something that is fully up to the interpretation of the viewer. And I think there's something a little bit beautiful about that.

I know how I read it, but that's only my interpretation of the subtext. I'm not gonna begrudge you yours.

And that's what I'm saying on that.

[trianglesimpfordpines]

the thing is. i'm not really interested in arguing over whether or not "billford is canon," because we know the story of bill & ford and interpreting it as romantic or not romantic doesn't change much at this point. whatever they had, whether or not you personally view it as romantic, was very intense, had a profound effect on both of them, and was horribly abusive on bill's part.

deep friendships can be abusive and cause lifelong trauma, just as much as romantic relationships. so i'm not gonna be out here being like "um, billford is canon, cry about it" because it's not my business how any given individual fan goes about interpreting the semantics of their relationship.

that said, though, it's become very clear that romantic feelings between bill and ford are a valid and canonically plausible interpretation. no, that's not the same as "100% explicitly canon," and no, it doesn't mean you have to ship it. but it does mean that continuing to behave as though people who do interpret it as romantic are doing something morally and/or intellectually wrong by having this interpretaion is unreasonable.

since bill was abusive to ford either way, why is it that interpreting ford's feelings for him pre-betrayal as having been romantic in nature is viewed by some people as being Uniquely Problematic? like being interested in the dynamic of their still extremely toxic friendship is normal, but the second you read anything besides friendship into it suddenly you're crossing some sort of line into Trivializing Abuse?

because...like. romantic relationships get ugly in real life. frequently, in fact. it's a very well-known, extensively-documented phenomenon. and, while "the use of romance-coded language to describe bill and ford's relationship in tbob is just a joke" is also a valid and plausible interpretation, why is that Less Uncomfortable than the idea that ford could have been in love with bill? if the goal is to avoid acknowledging the unfortunate idea that a person can hold positive and affectionate feelings for their abuser, then shouldn't viewing them as ex-close-friends be just as bad as viewing them as ex-lovers? after all, platonic or queerplatonic feelings are not "a step down" from romantic feelings. friendship isn't a "lower" tier of love, just a different type.

and most of all, why is agreeing with the romantic interpretation still treated as if it means you can't possibly be taking the story (or ford's abuse) seriously? because this is a common thread i see in a lot of fandoms, not just gravity falls. the idea that applying a romantic or formerly-romantic lens to the relationship between two characters, especially two male characters, can ONLY be done out of a "zomg hawt yaoi 😍" mentality. again, i am not saying you have to ship them or view this interpretation as "canon," but i kinda wish people would spend a bit of time thinking of why, whenever somebody else does ship it, their immediate conclusion is that that somebody else must be a "brainrotted fujoshi" who can't possibly understand how serious abuse is.

like, why is it that so many people think "shipping" is some kind of uniquely frivolous thing that is fundamentally incompatible with (a) actually understanding the story, (b) engaging with any serious and/or uncomfortable themes in a mature or respectful manner, and (c) knowing when a ship is not realistically healthy?

why is it that saying "ford held very deep feelings of platonic affection and admiration for bill, and viewed him as his closest or only friend" all fine and dandy, even though this interpretation does not change the fact that ford once felt very positively about his abuser, but saying "ford was in love with bill" nosedives straight into Gross Icky Weird Freak behavior?

finally, a lot of billford shippers are people who've had personal experiences with abuse. as are a lot of people who are triggered by billford content and don't want to see it. this isn't because the shippers are problematic abuse-fetishizing fujoshis, nor is it because the non-shippers are coping and seething and refusing to acknowledge canon. it is, in fact, because different people, even different people with similar experiences and similar traumas, are going to have different reactions to seeing things that hit close to home in a fictional story. neither party is necessarily "wrong," nor are they necessarily invalidating the other.

and again. just to be absolutely clear. i view all three interpretations (romantic billford, qpr billford, & platonic billford) as valid. the one i personally go with is that ford was in love with bill romantically, but i do not think this is the One True Canon Interpretation. this post is not arguing about the canonicity of billford as a ship.

[linatheweirdooo]

From what I get from the nuziless ship battle, you ship nuzi, you ship vuzi, you ship envuzi but not envy. Is that right?

Every ship in the nuziless ship battle was submitted over on my twitter, just bc they're there doesn't necessarily mean I do/don't ship them

HOWEVER!!! Since you asked for my interpretations...

I ship envuzi but the relationship itself is a lil complicated

In my hcs Uzi and N are both bisexual and V is lesbian and on the aroace spectrum. So, in my interpretation of envuzi, Uzi is in a romantic relationship with N and V, but N V are queerplatonic partners, kinda like Hunter and Amity in the ship lavender winter if you're familiar with the owl house fandom.

Bevause they're platonic, it doesn't change the fact V is still a lesbian, but you don't need romance in order to have a deep caring and appreciation for someone!!

But because I know many people who ship envuzi headcanon V as bi or pan, I do try to make N and V'a relationship in my art/fics kinda vague so people can fill in the gaps with their own headcanons.