#byler nonsense

[lorax-devito]

I reckon this scene is mike coming out to El and then she looks over the side if the building to see Will and they both giggle and she forces mike to make a move on him

[will80sbyers]

they always make me laugh somehow, you don't hear yourselves when you speak to others and make no sense whatsoever, at least I am honest when I say I am in fact trying to offend you when I respond telling you to fuck off from my blog ❤️

[srilankanwillbyers]

is it just me or i desperately want Robin's mentoring to be toward Mike.

like i completely understand why Will could receive help from Robin, since he's coming to terms with his sexuality, just like Robin had to do, but he already has an older, mentor-like figure in his life. Jonathon, my beloved!!! sure, Jonathon probably doesn't understand everything about Will's feelings, but Will doesn't need help with understanding himself because i'm pretty sure he knows damn well who he is. he just needs help realising that that doesn't make him a 'mistake'.

Mike, on the other hand, is, in my opinion, pretty fucking clueless. confused, too. i feel like he'd definitely benefit more from some gay mentoring, in order for him to navigate his feelings a little better. because i just don't think he has any idea.. he has always been the 'oblivious' one.

to be honest, i'd be even happier if Robin somehow mentored both. and in no way am i implying this would take over her entire plot for season 5, as i know people get pretty mad about that !!

anyways just a thought let me know what you guys think!!

[daydreamsandcloudnines]

'You can fly. You can move mountains. I believe that. I really do. You just have to keep fighting.'

Mike's monolgue really started as a weird ass confession and ended as a beautiful valedictory speech.

Sweetie really ran out of things to say, he just started spouting like he just graduated at the top of his class.

[gamma-ghoul]

I have an honest-to-God question. Why do Bylers concern themselves with Stancy? I feel like Stancy gets more hate from them than any other type of shipper, and it's like, but why?

[wakeupthemembersofbylernation]

AHAHAHA.

the episode titles of the first 6 episodes just leaked, and GUESS WHAT?

there's not a single mention of byler in any of them. HAHA.

because byler will NEVER happen!

ONCE AGAIN, YOU DELUSIONAL BYLERS HAVE LOST.

"b-b-b-but byler tumblr told me 5x05 would be called "the paladin and the cleric" and would end with a byler kiss 🥺 i thought-"

LMFAOOO. you thought wrong!

the duffers really are gonna humble you good when S5 comes out 🤣

you keep losing, and we love to see it.

BYLER IS BONES! AHAHAHA!

I’m not sure I believe the new leaked episode titles until further confirmation/clarification (I’m not much of a believer in “leaks” to begin with), but either way, this is an exceptionally silly ask even by Melvin hate anon standards.

Since when have episode titles explicitly referenced ships before??? And there’s no mention of M11 either? Or any other ship? So by that “logic,” none of them are happening. M11 bones. Jopper bones. Lumax bones. Jancy bones. Be serious for even one second. 🙄

The Paladin and the Cleric was always just a fun episode title idea. I don’t think anyone was married to it, what? 😭 I personally never believed it would be an actual title cause that seems way too on the nose to be a thing. Most episode titles only make sense in context.

And beyond that, I’d say that if these titles end up being true, there actually are some… interesting titles like Sorcerer and The Vanishing of ____ Wheeler that make me go 🤔 and set off my Byler spidey signals. And we still don’t have the final two possible episode titles.

The fact that you think Bylers are sheep who are easily swayed & controlled by what “Byler Tumblr” says instead of fans watching the show and coming to their own conclusions 💀

No one “lost” or “won” anything. You made up a strawman Byler in your head and then laughed at the strawman you created, which makes you the joke. And it also makes you sound super immature and silly. Middle school ahh logic. This ask makes no sense, and I’m only answering it because I’m baffled by it.

[crxzytogether]

lmao I love that the fake leaks got us trending again that's actually so funny.

[zia-zee-bee]

petition to give Will chronic anger issues post s5(totally not me projecting 😁) cause man this boy deserves to feel some rage

how i imagine Will internally fighting his demons:

[finnsfunworld]

i want a secret dating byler au but i do NOT wanna write that shit

[hnbka]

"will byers deserves better than mike wheeler"

no. no, he doesn't. because mike wheeler was the first person to make will feel comfortable. sure, am i the first person to say that mike was being an annoying ass of a fourteen year old in season 4? hell yes. but if you can't see the blatant elephant in that sentence (FOURTEEN YEAR OLD) then you need to grow up. mike and will are best friends. best freaking friends. watch season 2 again. watch season 1 again. hell, watch season 4 and 3 again. even when they're dealing with their drama, they make each other comfortable. they're each others' safe spaces, literally from themselves.

the biggest refute to this that i see is that "mike makes will cry." specifically during the van scene. will byers was not crying because of mike wheeler in the van scene. no, will was crying because he was encouraging the love of his life to date the love of his life. he was crying because he was cementing in his own mind that this love would always be unrequited, and that he would never find romantic love returned by mike wheeler in his lifetime. he was mourning the loss of the possibility of mike's love.

in fact, in my unwanted opinion, the most heartbreaking thing about the unrequited love story season 4 tells is how will doesn't harbor any resentment for mike. it's all hatred for himself.

anyway, "better" than mike wheeler does not exist for will byers. and vice versa.

[hellaace-purpleperson]

If you don't like Noah Schnapp, it's fine. If you want to stop watching ST, it's fine. If you don't root for byler anymore, it's fine. Do whatever you want, but I am tired of people shitting on Noah and ST and byler on the fucking byler tag. So get the fuck out of this tag because this is really getting on my nerve. Thank you

[st-twitter-sillies]

cancer :(

[edelweiss-coffee]

maybe the real endgame is the actual lifelong friends we made along the way

[dinosaursatemymom]

Milkvan has not been built up

Macaroni and cheese could not have been intentionally built up since season 1, El was originally supposed to die.

All the build up that happened for marine biology took place in s1, the kiss and Els death was supposed to be the end of it. For something to be built up, it requires a satisfying conclusion, I believe that the build up was there in s1 and the satisfying conclusion was supposed to be the kiss and self sacrifice for the first friends El had made. Byler on the other hand, has been stated to have been thought out since s1(at least on wills part). Milktits say all the time that milkshake has been built up since the first season, but even if El wasn't supposed to die, the satisfying conclusion to the build up would be them getting together at the snoball. There is no building up in s3&4, all there is is proof that they aren't compatible. All of the conflict between them that happened in s3&4 didn't need to happen, they could've just been a happy power couple for the rest of the seasons if macrame was really endgame. Will didn't need to be in love with mike, will didn't even need to be gay if Mariah Carey was really endgame.

Now I do think that s1&2 had buildup, but the building up ended when they got together, and subsequently proved that they do not work as a couple. In s3 they broke up and lied, and in s4 they weren't together for most of the season and when they were they fought and lied. I firmly believe that just because a couple breaks up in a show doesn't necessarily mean that they aren't still being built up or aren't endgame. Take Jess and nick from New Girl for example, they dated for a while until realizing they had extremely different goals in life and did not work as a couple. Yet, during their time apart they grew as people and their goals changed, but they stayed best friends and they eventually realized that they were still in love with each other, and got back together, their goals aligning and finally working as a couple. That is what a good build up looks like, even when the couple in question breaks up.

Now let's take a look at Mel Gibson's breakup in s3, while El grew as a person during this time, mike stayed pretty much the same. The time they spent apart did not make them grow as people and become more compatible, they might have grown a little, but we're still proven to be incompatible in s4. The breakup of nick and Jess was drawn out to prove that they could grow and show that they still worked as friends, whilst macropenis break up was played as a joke and the two barely talked during the time, further proving that milkvan doesn't work well. Macroeconomics has not been built up, what happened is that the duffers have done their best to show that they are incompatible.

My guess of why milkman has been handled like this is that El was and is a fan favorite, when the duffel bags realized they couldn't kill her off they needed a way to make sure that melanin could have a satisfying ending while keeping El on the show. At the time, I believe, Motorola razr was a fan favorite ship. The duffel bagels couldn't just end it now that El was alive and well, so they had to show that they did not work as a couple, and then end it.

[jonathanbyersphd]

S4 goes crazy cause like Hawkins team is harboring a fugitive, El is kidnapped, Russia gang is literally breaking into prison, and Mike and Will are having a gay coming of age story

[eddieydewr]

oh jesus mothering christ