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That's because they are
They look like a married couple look at them
"then betty said that her front yard was bigger than ours-"
"thats nice honey"
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I will never understand what it is about this show that sparks such intense heteronormative fever in some people
#like yeah I’m sure the Duffers#who wrote an entire show with the main theme being non-conformity#featuring all these outcast characters subverting tropes & traditional societal expectations#would write an ending of teenagers getting engaged/married just because. teenagers who’ve been nothing but immature as a couple mind u#why can it never just be Mike & El continue dating it has to be they’re locked down for life and starting a nuclear family lmfao#even as someone who believes in Byler I don’t think they’re getting a cliche fairytale end either#the Duffers hv always been realists in terms of how they handle relationships. & they wrote Mike & El w a dysfunctional dynamic by choice#like sure…the couple that cannot emotionally communicate the whole 2 seasons they’re dating are def being set up for MARRIAGE ??#also marriage as the end goal of relationships is how shows like Gossip Girl are written. this is a sci fi horror mystery show 😭 be serious#I will truly never understand the audience this show has garnered. just so antithetical to every message the writers are pushing
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literally stop looking like boyfriends if you don't want to get shipped together like what the fuck
#byler#will byers#mike wheeler#what do you expect me to do after looking at you being the embodiment of a married couple
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excuse him if he’s stressed, he’s a married man
#byler#will byers looking stressed stresses me out#he’s done with everyone’s shit#he’s just like me fr#is mike wheeler the main reason of said stress?#probably#byler acting like an old married couple#nothing new
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A little teaser from Chapter 3
currently posted fic below the cut:
#I'm working my way through editing this final draft as fast as I possibly can so here's a teaser before I post#they're fightingggg#they fight a lot in this fic tbh but they figure it out#old married couple behavior#them being childhood best friends who're simultaneously really comfortable and deeply uncomfortable around each other is such a fun dynamic#what's on your mind fic#my writing#my posts#my wips#byler
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u know what? I'm a Willel twin truther now, Mike being in love with El's twin is much better than Mike dating his cousin LMAAO
LMAOOOO a win is a win
#byler#willel twins#willel literal twins#joyce + hopper = willel twins#it all starts to make sense honestly#girl shows up on your doorstep#and she’s the only girl u ever show interest in#and just so happens to look exactly like your best friend who just went missing#you’ve known her for a couple days and your friends already say you’re in love with her and want to marry her#and it’s not so hard to try to convince yourself#bc you know…#she’s the spitting image of your best friend you’re currently looking for…#as a queer kid figuring things out#I can’t blame Mike for being confused#ITS NOT HIS FAULT#THEYRE IDENTICAL!!!#one presents as conforming and with someone who is as close as possible to what Mike truly wants#aka Will#and one presents as who mike truly wants#aka literally will
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"Yeah... I did. I guess I really did."
Will slaying that "totally not breaking up" argument in season 3
#byler#mike wheeler#will byers#the way they argue like a married couple man#an inseparable childhood duo arguing over the direction their lives are going in lmao#married i swear to god
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Started a new fic that nobody asked for🫡
It’s not posted yet but I’ll let y’all know when it is! I wanted to do Mike and Karen stuff because honestly ANY of the Wheeler relationships are so fascinating to explore and I also was listening to fifties music and decided I wanted to write about Karen being Mike 1.0 (aka, a repressed gay teenager in love with their friend)
In other words, Mike finds out that the odd trend of Wheelers falling for Byers is, in fact, genetic.
(Joyce and Karen fic>:3)
Is this interesting would people read it
#mike wheeler#will byers#stranger things#byler#karen wheeler#joyce byers#joyren#is that the ship name?#cute#this is also just an excuse to write young joyce too#it is gonna be jam packed with cute byler fluff#they have an APARTMENT together they are domestic and cute#practically a married couple#it’ll cut between like 1993ish and 1959#byler fic
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And for more subtle ones we also have Millie saying El's arc is independence from men (the same day of interviews where she called their fight her favorite scene I believe: "he isn't loving her the way she wants to be loved")
Essentially 'Mike and El almost break up. El should be less dependent on men in her life' = I think them breaking up would be a good idea.
Say that you don't ship mileven without explicitly saying it :
1. Caleb
2. Gabriella
3. Finn
Said *you wish * and rolled his eyes after Millie said that she wanted El and Mike to get Married
4. Mattew
5. Noah
#HELP I'VE NEVER SEEN THE MATTHEW ONE WHAT#also the way they def told him before season 3 and not millie ofc bc that's when finn started liking fan arts and did the 'you wish' thing#(which is giving 'she didn't look fine' btw?)#anti milkvan proof#byler proof#we have so much proof some gets lost in the noise but i forgot that murray will mike lucas suzie and brenner all ship it#“i see no future in it” is wild#yeah. mike and el are and always were meant to be a story of first love#i don't think most teen romcom couples got married and i never have. we don't need to pull back the curtain to think about their breakup bu#realistically they did break up. same with these two would be my thoughts had they ended at season 2. a first love who taught him about lov#they just decided they WOULD pull back that curtain#i would have assumed they broke up when they changed as people in high school or when they went off to college but always remembered what#they learned from their relationship#or broken up like lucas and max going into high school. 'people just change lucas'#lucas and max are a rare case of a middle school couple. they put in work to grow together as they changed as people. thinking stats of#married middle school sweethearts#it was never gonna be both couples#and like caleb said. of the two - show focus aside just realistically - it was gonna be the one based in friendship not the trauma bonded a#ways based in romance one#mike and el never laid a basis of friendship
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gay ships for gay people
#byler#wenclair#best friends to lovers#married couples?!#love that for them#sunshine x sunshine protector#moon x sun#sunshine x grumpy
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yes this is 100% true!!
it's important that they show us will and mike together, a duo no matter what's happened. mike never takes a dig at will for what happened. the forgiveness, the comfort, the easiness, it's unspoken.
i didn't say it
you didn't have to
honestly this shot tells me everything i need to know about the love triangle
LOOK AT HIM AND WILL. THEY LOOK LIKE A FUCKING MARRIED COUPLE DAWG COME ON
mind you their fight happened maybe 10 minutes ago. and they're already attached at the hip. no personal space. like there are so many ways they could've positioned them to make it look less like mike and will are a duo and el is alone, or that mike and will aren't automatically cool after the fight, or that mike was more concerned with being there for el. they didn't have to make mike and will stand that close they just didn't
if mike really loved her on her good days and bad days he wouldn't be standing with will, who he just had an explosive fight with. he'd be at that table with her comforting her, because even though it was a 'bad day' for her and she really messed up he still loves her and want her to know he's there and on her side. instead he stuck with will and left her all alone and never once implied he was on her side and would be there for her through it. he left her to feel like a monster. if you love someone, and you know you love them, you simply don't do that.
#byler#the married couple behavior gets me every time#stranger things#will byers#mike wheeler#byler endgame#byler analysis#stranger things 4#milkvan bones
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ex milkvan ride-or-die shipper and i am convinced the majority of modern day milkvan shippers are people who didn’t watch the show until it became super popular in 2022 when s4 was coming out.
like, there is a difference between binging all four seasons of a show and having years of wait between each one.
the time between each one gives you time to reflect on what you might see next season. as a milkvan truther after watching the first 2 seasons of the show in 2018, i was super excited for season 3 because we could see mike and eleven finally be together after their sweet reunion in the s2 finale.
and then…they literally break up in the first 2 episodes 😭
all my expectations flew straight out the window. i remember sitting there like “oh…wait what?” not necessarily disappointed (probably idk i was like 13) but super confused. even when they kissed at the end i hated it because it was just such an awkward kiss omdsssss😑
fast forward 3 years then i’m 16 and in a lesbian relationship and milkvan is just not hitting any spots. can’t remember what my expectations were for them, but i hated their reunion and didn’t have high hopes for them after that. (high hopes looked at the “i love you” scene, laughed, and left forever)
it was after vol2 was out and marinated when i started to see byler for what it was, because much like milkvan itself, each new season broke down all the expectations i had for them whilst byler only thrived.
binging all four seasons completely in one go strips this kind of trial and error experience away from you, you’re less likely to have grown accustomed to the writing and predict what will happen next time. (not suggesting bingers who joined in 2022 and post cant have picked up on byler too, it’s just a bit more difficult for the average person so pat yourself on the back if that’s your experience)
hence why i see so many new milkvans claim s5 is gonna be the season where they’re finally the power couple we thought they’d be back in 2018…and they weren’t.
“they’re gonna get married and 🤫 and have superpowered babies!��…what in the muthr fokc?
the only power they ever had was the power of heteronormativity
still love their pairing, but they’d be so much more powerful as friends like they were in the beginning
#mike wheeler#eleven hopper#will byers#byler#byler endgame#stranger things#stranger things 5#milkvan is bones
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This is not meant to be an attack on Mileven shippers, because I think it's perfectly normal to keep up hope that their ship will happen, but this is something I've noticed. When the Mileven shippers post about how Mileven is still endgame, and how they're going to end up together and maybe get married, the only proof they use is that the couple has been together the whole series. There is no analysis, or proof, they just say "it makes sense for them to stay together because they've been together." Whereas Byler shippers have a million reasons why Byler is going to be endgame, because we actually analyze the show to come to our conclusion. Then we're called delusional, even though there has been literally no Mileven promotion or leaks since JANUARY, and they're still saying that their ship is endgame, and we are crazy. And, I'm not trying to say that they're delusional, because as I said at the beginning, it's perfectly fine to keep up hope that a ship will happen. I just think it's time to stop saying we're delusional because we actually analyze the show. The only thing they can do to convince themselves that Mileven is still happening is to undermine our ship because it's actually become threatening, and that's what I'm not okay with.
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“i need you Mike and i always will”
“i’ve been so lost without you”
“and you know Max,Lucas and Dustin they’re great, they’re great it’s just.. it’s Hawkins it’s not the same without you”
“i feel like i lost you or something”
“i think it’d be better if we’re a team” (which parallels “we make a pretty good team”. Jopper parallel)
“you make me feel like i’m not a mistake at all”
“without a heart we’d all fall apart even me, especially me”
“do you remember the first day that we met? i had nobody i had no friends i just felt so alone and i saw you on the swings and you were alone too and ..i asked.. i asked if you wanted to be my friend and you said yes.. you said yes.. it was the best thing i’ve ever done”
“what if you wanna join another party?” “not possible” (is the "let's start a new party, you and me" about them? probably and it might be how Mike asks Will out after he tells him about Hellfire)
“hey Will if we’re both going crazy we’ll go crazy together right?” “yeah, crazy together” (which parallels “only love makes you that crazy sweetheart and that damn stupid”. Jancy parallel)
"we could just stay in the basement and play dnd and nintendo for the rest of our lives" "yeah"
also Finn in a s2 interview basically implied Will is Mike's light and in the van scene when Mike's staring at Will he's bathed in sunlight like in the couch scene which was probably from Mike's POV
#byler#stranger things#why do you have the most romantic lines tf#will byers#mike wheeler#mike wheeler is gay#mike wheeler is a homo#will byers is oblivious asf#mike wheeler is oblivious asf#and yet they're so obvious#they love each other in the way they want to be loved#but they think the other is straight#*screams because of their obliviousness*#they're soulmates your honor#and they're each other's light#oblivious gays#they act like a married couple#they probably married each other in kindergarten#with candy rings
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My Byler Headcanon
Mike and Will continue calling each other “best friend” sometimes, even after they get together romantically. Depending on the situation, they’ll refer to each other as both “best friend” and “boyfriend”.
I firmly believe that having your significant other also be your best friend is the perfect kind of relationship.
Even when Mike and Will start acting like a couple – being affectionate and doing things most friends don’t do – they’ll still see each other as best friends.
Throughout their romantic relationship, they’ll keep doing the things they did as friends: playing D&D or video games, reading (and now also creating!) comics, talking for hours about everything, and even judging others together.
At the same time, they’ll share those deeply romantic moments: looking at each other with so much affection and devotion, kissing, and cuddling. They’ll intertwine their friendship and love in ways that will make their bond even stronger.
They’ll truly cherish the fact that their romantic partner is also their best friend. So, when they can legally get married in adulthood, they’ll proudly say they’re married to their best friend.
This kind of relationship – (childhood) best friends to lovers – is, in my opinion, the best one you could ever have. And it’s one of the reasons why I love Byler so much. ❤️
#byler#byler tumblr#byler headcanon#will byers x mike wheeler#mike wheeler x will byers#will x mike#mike x will#will and mike#mike and will#stranger things
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Older married couple byler in the past by accident (they're supernatural hunters and researchers in the future) and Mike hating it and getting second hand embarrassment from his younger self. Will is just being his sweet self. While also having a fun time seeing Mike being embarrassed and having nostalgia for their younger selves
love that
#stranger things#gay#byler#mike wheeler#mike wheeler is gay#will byers#stranger things 4#stranger things 5#wiseheart#tumblr ask
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