#bwii galvatron

[plutonace]

[stat-16]

He’s taking your son who knows what he might take next

[hyunblog0843]

[cyber-streak-2]

Starscream: How did you know I was going to propose?!

BB: Galvatron hasn’t been able to look at me without crying all month.

[redfoxdude07]

I'm bored, so have some blurry doodles of BWii characters

Forgive the blurriness. My hands are shaky af and my phone is stupid

[blueikeproductions]

The Trigger collab animation came out and it’s the best thing Transformers has done in the current decade.

Truly a love letter to Transformers from G1 to EarthSpark, it squeezes in everything it possibly can from most media. However the catch is that it’s only animated media and the live action movies, the comics (any assorted manga, Marvel, Dreamwave, IDW & Skybound) aren’t referenced, while some Japanese exclusive stuff gets a lil’ bit more attention (understandable since it’s, y’know, Japanese fans being nostalgic about the anime they grew up with).

Transformers Go, Q-Transformers, and the Beast Wars anime got particular attention.

This shot of Liger Megatron and Green Lion Lio Convoy is especially cool.

I think initially I was expecting a Trigger animated greatest hits from select moments from each show, and while they still technically do that in spots…

It’s mostly a mega crossover with different characters interacting otherwise.

And it’s all the better for it.

I mean where else are you gonna find TFA Optimus about to smash Masterforce Overlord’s face in?

There’s no real narrative, it’s just random cool shots though the closest thing to a framing device is the PV opening with Vector Prime looking down on Cybertron across all time lines.

Regarding EarthSpark’s contributions to the short, they’re minimal. The Terrans and Mandroid don’t appear at all, which is a little bizarre.

ES Megatron appears among the other Decepticon leaders instead of being with ES Optimus on the Autobot leader side.

You’d think Mandroid would be there next to BWII Galvatron instead, but I guess not. Sadly they omitted RiD15 Steeljaw too, instead using RiD15 Megatronus Prime’s floating head.

SatAM Robotnik voice: Ah well, life is not perfect.

The main ES rep are the Maltos.

This just reinforces ES needed to be 2D, because they actually look good. Roche’s style doesn’t work in 3D.

Anyway the human cast they chose for this final shot amuses me.

Love seeing my favorite Clays being included. The lack of RiD Steeljaw (G1 Steeljaw did appear with Lio Junior and RiD15 Aerobolt though) is forgiven.

Anyhow, the specific use of the Clays, the (S3) Witwickys, the Maltos and the Onishis (this is especially funny since Koji’s mom never met her universe’s Optimus) is somehow very random, but also kinda appropriate. Like I get Spike and Dot’s families, since it serves as bookends, but the Clays and Onishis still feel a bit random. Still, including both Robots in Disguise families is a nice touch in my book!

The short ends with a different bookend as mentioned.

What starts out as G1 Prime & Megs transitions to ES Prime & Megs shaking hands. The old with the current series. It works~! I admit I’m surprised they didn’t include TFONE somehow. I know it’s technically not out yet, but there’s enough material to have had Orion and D-16 have some kind of tussle. It would’ve been an interesting way to tie it into the above scene and this one:

When it comes to general rep, the stuff that gets the most focus is G1, Beast Wars, Animated, & Galaxy Force. Cyberverse doesn’t really get anything beyond the leader shot, but there is this awesome but very random shot of Croaton over looking Holi’s Rescue Patrol walking on a beach littered with the dead bodies of the generic Decepticons from “War Dawn”.

Sucks to be you guys.

It also occurs to me the Rescue Bots cartoons appear to be omitted along with BotBots, but that might partly be due to them not having Japanese releases? I’m not sure, but it’s funny how Q-Transformers is acknowledged of all things, but not Heatwave or Burgertron. Maaaaybe that’s for the best on the later…

Still the PV is a blast and is pry the most earnest passion project that GETS Transformers vs what we’ve been getting post Aligned cartoon wise.

I still hope this leads to a proper TF anime series made by Trigger, like what happened with Gridman. We need a return to good 2D animated TF shows and not more CGI slop like WFC or S2 ES. That Beast Wars and Machines are still superior despite being retro by today’s standards says something…

The catch however is the original video is region locked…

but some fans have ripped it and posted it on their YT:

So go check it out while you can! It’s pure Energon-y goodness!

[allsoundwavesarebeautiful]

you know those "all the versions of this character live in a house together" things well the Galvatron one would be unhinged unlivable chaos. BWII Galv is holed up in a closet somewhere writing on a scrap of paper by candlelight like he's a survivor in a zombie apocalypse. "dear diary... i don't know how long it's been since my last entry... i had to venture out for more paper last night, which might feel like a frivolous risk but i want to leave as complete a record as i can. they seem less active in the dark. the IDW and Marvel ones are still punching each other... i don't know how that's possible... there's always someone blair witching it in the corner and i realized today that it's a different guy every time i look. do they take turns? have they learned to communicate? i shudder to think. also i saw a can of cherries in syrup on my way back from getting the paper but i couldn't grab it because i heard the telltale sound of the Bayverse one using his mist powers and had to bail. i will go back for it tomorrow night... i hope it's still there... i have only eaten shoe leather since i arrived here. good night diary remember me when i'm dead"

[zeonomicon]

i dunno if you are till taking requests or not but if you are, could you please write a drabble about megatorm being perceived by the rest of the destron troops, either good or badly percieved.

(assuming that before bw2 started the destron crew was part of a bigger destron army)

thank youuu

My requests are always open for BWII. Have some nameless soldiers speculating.

Drabble under the cut!

BWII Destrons & Megastorm

“Hey, doesn’t he frighten you, that Megastorm?” The mess hall of the Galvaburg I, the primary Destron flagship, was large enough that the Destron troops who gathered there could feel secure in a sense of anonymity, and conversations like this could arise.

“What, the SIC? He’s nothing but a meek fool.” The mech who’d spoken was an experienced general. Several younger soldiers murmured their agreement, a few laughing quietly, others looking more unnerved to hear such blatant disrespect at the expense of a member of High Command, their leader’s brother, no less.

“You wouldn’t get it! An Autoroller like you always ends up on missions directed by Galvatron. Megastorm’s different when he commands alone.” The Combatron who’d spoken glanced over his shoulder nervously as if the unruly Prince of Destruction might show up at any moment, while his partner nodded in agreement.

“Different, how?” The Autoroller general replied.

“Cold, sneaky… More reserved than our Emperor.”

More troopers approached the table, pushing up seats to listen. One interjects, “Sure. One time I was under his command, he called a retreat because the Cybertrons were acting strange. We thought he was being cowardly, but it turned out they had a new weapon and were planning an ambush. Our squad owes our lives to that call.”

“Feh, as if he could have known. When I was under his command, he went behind Galvatron’s back and ordered a raid of an abandoned Cybertron base. He showed no care when one of us got nearly crushed by disturbed rubble, and when Galvatron discovered his ploy, he tried to initiate the self-destruct to trap our leader inside. We all saw it!”

A shocked muttering passes through the crowd.

“So,” someone says at last, “Megastorm or Galvatron, who would you rather have as leader?”

“Who knows?” Grins another, “but if Megastorm became Emperor, well… I’d want to stay on his good side. Don’t underestimate him, you know?”

"Wise words." The voice that spoke up was tensely authoritative, recognised instantly by the gathered troops, although the speaker it belonged to was known to many as usually speaking in a much higher, more anxious tone.

"M-Megastorm!" The troopers part a path, shrinking back at once under the scrutiny of the Second in Command.

"Megastorm, what?"

There was a beat of silence, then the Combatron who'd started the conversation tentatively said, "Megatron, Prince of Destruction?"

Megastorm's derma curled into a smile. "Emperor of Desctruction, one day. Don't underestimate me!" With that, the Destron SIC turned and left the mess hall, his troopers staring after him.

[transfemstarscream]

If youve seen it, whats your opinion on bwII megatron and rid2001 megatron?

beast wars ii does something new with megatron: instead of having the megatron→galvatron development, it slips the two into brothers of the names megastorm and galvatron. and people complained about IDW making galvatron his own character; beast wars ii did it about a decade earlier!

i think megastorm is hilarious, and his dynamic with galvatron is even funnier. i'm normally not fond of the "sucks up to older sibling/wants to be better than older sibling" trope, but megastorm is hilarious because he's a failure in about every regard. nobody likes him. dirge & thrust don't give a shit about his leadership and BB & starscream are too busy enacting romeo & juliet. i understand why people don't like when megatron and megatron stand-ins are portrayed as incompetent—especially this one, which not only makes him more incompetent but also a coward—but given the more comedic nature of beast wars ii, i think it fits him perfectly here.

it helps that although megastorm is a failure, he's also scary when he needs to be. this show does something different from regular megatrons; although neither physically abuse his peers, both brothers are scary enough for them to noticeably flinch.

(don't worry, he doesn't hurt her at all throughout the series. she and him just don't get along; she likes galvatron as a leader much more!)

and when we get to galvatron in this series... i love him! his scary demeanor is played for laughs (he literally talks through his teeth; he rarely ever ungrits his teeths), but on his introduction you know well enough what he's capable of for everyone to be wary of his arrival. and despite what he's built up as, he... oddly cares for his men. in fact, he never once mistreats them like other galvatrons do. the reason for megastorm's step-down as leader is because dirge, thrust, BB and starscream (especially her) heavily prefer galvatron as leader. galvatron is a pretty nice guy in this installment.

(i need to watch NEO to see if this characterization sticks around.)

now, on rid2001 megatron: like megastorm and galvatron, who are entirely different characters from G1 megatron/galvatron, rid2001 megatron is also a case of this. he's a separate character from G1 megatron, and in japanese is actually called gigatron (ギガトロン). i highlight the issue here because unlike megastorm, his [localized] name is literally just megatron without some divergence to make it different. this leads to people judging him as if he's G1 megatron, despite the fact he's not.

with that out of the way, i think i've grown to like him. he's more of a standard villain, sort of generic in motivation complete with evil monologuing and poor henchman treatment, but i don't think these are inherently bad. the focus is not really on him, but his men (and boy are those some good men. sky-byte FTW). he's not going to be as colorful as they are, because he's meant to be more of a final boss; the character where the Real Shit happens.

i especially like the english dub of him, because i remember his weird pauses during talking.

he has funny moments (can't find the screenshot but that one with the caption of "you guys know i hate these kind of bad jokes" is my favorite quote from him), and i like when he gets angry because it's not at all scary but hilarious. rid2001 is a joke everyone is in on except him, and that's great.

[liaswritesrobots]

So... Any thoughts on BWII?

I love it so far! I'm halfway through the show rn!

I love almost all the characters and I like the whole setting of "Gaia". It's obvious it's Earth and that it got so fucked up towards human life that they had to scatter across the galaxy (that is what I'm choosing to believe anyway bc if I think of the alternative I get too sad).

Also I love how humans just... made a robot girl and robot bunny and stuck them in the moon to look after planet for them bc even if they can't live there anymore it's like... this is still home and we need a housesitter while we're away.

Also this Starscream is 100% gay he and BB are definitely boyfriends and Thrust and Dirge are definitely boyfriends too.

AND GODDDS MEGASTORM I LOVE HIM. He's such a little shit. I know there's a Starscream in the show but Megastorm is definitely the Starscream character and it's so funny bc as soon as Galvatron stands up he's kissing his big brother's ass again like he didn't just try to dunk him in a volcano. Cain instinct is strong in this one.

There's of course some... not that great stuff in it since it was from the 90s, like the way the Jointron brothers are portrayed, the whole queer mantis bit (felt homophobic), and then Apache's name is questionable (though as far as I know he hasn't been made an offensive caricature of Native Americans but I could be wrong on that)

[solarzilla]

Honestly gotta give grops to the guy for making a whole 3d model for BWII Galvatron

[hyunblog0843]

Round 19 Lio Convoy VS Galvatron

[cyber-streak-2]

Starscream: If you ever need me, I’m there for you 24/6.

Galvatron: Don’t you mean 24/7?

Starscream: No Saturdays are my dates with BB.

[millidew]

those blorbos. from my shows

[blueikeproductions]

More CyberWorld/EarthSpark stuff that stuck out to me.

Another page in the planning document cropped up, & it gives a general overview of what Hasbro had in mind at the time.

Two new shows are planned to come out, but this page confusingly doesn’t mention CyberWorld, just an “animated kids series” & an “animated pre-K series”.

The other pages still reference CyberWorld, so mostly going by what we’ve seen, CyberWorld is meant to be the kids series, but it’s a big question mark on the pre-k show. Rescue Bots ran its course, I got the feeling lil’ kids weren’t interested in RBA since it didn’t last as long, stories were both too preschool but also trying to tack on IDW centric ideas by forcing Laserbeak to be forgiven and becoming an Autobot, for reasons. Stuff that’s not interesting to lil’ kids or their parents.

When RBA ended, a new toyline took over but I don’t think it sold super well, nor did it have any fiction.

As well as only including Optimus Primal & BW Megatron Gator…? It was a random line, and clearly just filler to eke out RB style toys longer. I don’t see the new Pre-K show being this, but CHT did sell Decepticons as enemy characters unlike RB/A, so the Pre-K show might be based on the Great War this time? Or at the very least, stuff like the Decepticons robbing banks and power plants, lol. Or some gag about Soundwave illegally downloading music, only to be put in his place, but with a contradictory gag about the human kids and Bumblebee doing the same from time to time.

It’s pry too late to ape it now, but a modern pre-K show I could see being Spidey & His Amazing Friends tonally with toys similar to Paw Patrol’s. Like say you have the standard Optimus toy partnered with Spike (Skybound or G1 doesn’t matter), and the trailer transforms into a big jet for Optimus and Spike to ride in. Something like that.

As for CyberWorld.

The current assumption based on the toys, is it might be a return to vehicles vs animals that both RiDs, Beast Machines, Beast Wars II and ROTB (kinda) did.

The Decepticons seemingly being animal themed supports this (plus if Meg Bull IS Megatron, Megs trying to push off road Optimus off a cliff in bull mode is hilarious), though Galvatron is the odd one. The only one with a beast form is the BWII version…

Hasbro might be more open to Beast Wars again but they’re still a bit dodgy about the Japanese cast despite Lio Convoy and Magmatron. I could sooner see a G1 Galvatron than BWII Galvatron, but the fun approach would be an Armada Galvatron inspired design that borrows from G1, Energon & BWII.

Toy speculation suggests the line might be a repaint line like the old TF Universe series made up of Cyberverse, RiD15 and EarthSpark molds.

A possibility. Cited speculative examples of Sky-Byte being his Cyberverse toy, Chomp & Stomp Grimlock being another go at the AoE toy of the same name, & Mirage being RiD15 Blurr make sense, but I dunno. Scorponok and Galvatron stick out, as I would think they’d have to be new molds, though an argument can be made for a G1 colored version of RiD15 Scorponok… Similarly, they might repaint TFP Predaking into Galvatron if he’s a repaint and they wanted to homage BWII, but I’m leaning towards new molds for now.

CyberWorld ISN’T a cartoon, but a toy only subline or size class meant to replace the abandoned Core/Legion class.

Inconclusive. The tiny toys don’t seem to sell well as it is, Legacy just stopped being restocked my way so no BM Cheetor or Energon Megatron for me. Also guys like Iguanus shelfwarmed HARD. Rungs were still clogging Ollies until recently. CyberWorld is also shown to be the successor to ES in most of the documents that we can tell.

The CyberWorld cartoon will have a half of a half shoe string budget like Cyberverse and possibly be similar to it.

Inconclusive but not out of the realm of possibility either. Hasbro has been having its own problems lately, while Paramount is practically on fire right now. A lot of people mostly just seem to be clinging to how similar World & Verse sound, with the logo also looking slightly similar but still different enough. A lot more people also seem resistant to the idea of more Cyberverse either way. CV didn’t perform well either, the toys clogged store shelves from start to finish, heck the first wave went on clearance immediately after Christmas, and the series JUST came out, the messy, lackadaisical approach to the show’s (lack of) story, the bad voice acting, etc. It’s not a fondly remembered show as much as some make it out to be. And even then, you’d sort of expect, if it was directly related, Hasbro would shove Bumblebee front & center, despite the CV cartoon wanting little to do with Bee as it went on. Like let’s be real, if it was a CV sequel, Bee, Windy & Shadow should be here right out the gate. They’re not. At all. Windy is practically benched in favor of Elita now.

Mirage is the focus (seemingly) instead, presumably due to the ROTB version’s popularity. He’s certainly more fun than the rich snob that may or may not be a traitor the G1 version tends to be. Not that you can’t make the G1 version interesting but boy has Hasbro not really had any interest in doing so beyond his invisibility gimmick.

So really until told otherwise we know very little. All we know for sure is EarthSpark is being slowly phased out in favor of CyberWorld & a potential Pre-K show. The Slag Podcast host has given a knowing wink, and has a show planned that will presumably lay these Snaketicons out straight, as people have been calling him a lying liar again for sticking to what he knows. Similarly some have pointed out Nick Roche may have also been lying, giving false hope EarthSpark is continuing on when it’s pretty clear it isn’t. S2 is it people, one way or the other, and the new CyberWorld order is coming whatever it ends up being.

[cyber-streak]

Galvatron: Guys, I love your Christmas spirit, but we’re going to get kicked out of the building if you continue like this-

Starscream, BB, Megastorm, Thrust, and Dirge yelling to be heard over nine speakers playing Mariah Carey’s ‘All I Want For Christmas Is You’ at full volume: THEN SO BE IT-