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I've seen people say terf rhetoric is any hatred of men and I've seen people say terf rhetoric is anything transphobic said by anyone. the refusal to actually engage with the reality that terfism is primarily focused on oppressing trans women is in itself a form of transmisogyny. yes they hate all trans people, but it is quite easy to see who they primarily target with their words, actions and policies, you just don't want to care about trans women. claiming someone is a man hater doesn't mean you get to call them a terf or a radfem, thats an obvious, willfull dilution and denial of what terfs are.
#rewatching shauns video on kelly jay and the neo nazis and realizing how bullshit it is to claim terfs hate men#the most popular terfs either dont care or outright court any men who agree with them#idk if people have just fallen for their facade or more likely dont care abt trans women#even real intracommunity transphobia isnt terfism not is intracommunity transmisogyny#though both tend to slide into terfism over time#like yall realise when terfs say they want men out of women's spaces they're not talking abt cis men. they're talking abt trans women.#theres a moment shaun shows in his video where kelly jay explicitly says that she wants cis men to go into womens bathrooms#to 'protect cis women' from trans women
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The term "TMRA" used negatively/derogatorily in regards to trans men talking abt their oppression is wild to me. Being a trans men's rights activist is bad....why, exactly? Trans men literally lack fucking rights? HELLO?
#I know they're trying to compare it to the cis MRA movement but that makes no sense when trans men are an actively oppressed minority who#lack rights 😭#[oppressed group] right's activist 🤢🤢🤢#??? do u hear urself#never understood this#transandrophobia#🐈
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The thing about testosterone being a controlled substance means that acess to it for hrt is restricted. While it makes access a significant issue for many people and an easy and effective way to prevent trans men and mascs from transitioning (as we've seen terfs campaign for and succeed at doing in Britain) it also means that is very easy for health care professionals to be able to take it away from trans men/mascs arbitrarily. This is most aborant in cases where trans men/mascs are forced to detransition to gain access to abortions after being raped. However, the first sign of an issues tangentially related to hormones a gp, without any training in trans people or hormones, can and will stop a person's testosterone. Apart from how stressful it is to know that for the rest of your life you'll be dependent on the goodwill of a random person, this has measurable negative consequences for a trans person subjected too it.
Going off t fucking sucks at the best of time, but being forced off t will most likely result in depression and worsening mental health for a trans man/masc, who are already one of the most likely groups to attempt suicide. It can also put a trans person at risk if they suddenly start being visibly trans again, especially if they're closeted in, say, a work place environment. Trans people, including trans men, are already one of the most targeted groups of harassment and violence and sexual assalt and forcibly reducing or stopping t can out people and risk their safety. And a gp won't see this or care about this, or attempt to treat a trans man/masc first or ask for their opinion or situation.
Ultimately, testosterone is seen as entirely optional and so the first resort when something goes wrong it to take it away, when it should be considered the last resort, and is considered the last resort for cis men. And as long as testosterone continues to be a controlled substance it will remain like this.
(edit for clarification: I am a kiwi, this post was intended as a general critique of accessing t through health care systems - based in my lived experience in NZ and what ive heard from international trans ppl; including but not limited to the USA)
#Transandrophobia#This rant brought to you by my gp threatening my health and safety by stopping t for a couple conditions that would be treated if I were ci#Excess hemoglobin is documented but not well understood in trans men but there are option available that aren't no t#And high blood pressure runs in the family but no one's making my dad take t suppressants even though no medication is particularly effecti#If she asked me I would rather have gout and t than neither#But I don't get an option#And if I shout to loudly I'm scared they'll not let me ever take it again#She won't even put me back on the weekly injections I'm supposed to be on now that the shortage is over#Despite the fact she's worried my t levels are too high after the injection#(Which given they're normal after a week and how much I dislike the roller coster effect should be the first thing)#But if I start on the limited options and how t is seen as so optional shortages don't matter and different options don't matter
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A lot of cis people may not want to hear this, but here goes:
You are going to have more in common with trans people who have a similar gender identity to you than you think. Trans people are reliable narrators of their own experiences, and whether you like it or not, we will have similar or even identical experiences to yours. Cis people don't have a monopoly over their gender or the experiences people have as a result of their gender.
#trans#transgender#lgbt#lgbtq#ftm#mtf#nonbinary#ally advice#like in my experience i have had way more in common with cis men than cis women#and of course it is always more complicated than what a tumblr post can provide. but by and large i have noticed this trend#cis people like to pretend that trans people are a seperate species to them when that can't be further from the truth#cis people don't like to think that their bodies/experiences/lives could be in any way shape or form similar to a trans person's#but they're wrong in that case. there are so many of us with baried experiences. because we are PEOPLE#i feel like i am screaming my personhood into the void sometimes so i hope maybe this reaches somebody#as horrifying as it is (/s) i am as much a person as i am a man#and as horrifying as it is (/s) other trans people are as much their genders as they are PEOPLE#enjoy me posting my stream of consciousness then going back to play skyrim and fo:nv until i pass out or whatever i feel like lol<3
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I can't remember if I've posted abt this before but regardless: I'm sorry but I really and truly cannot get behind the idea that there is any wide-scale societal "pressure for trans men to be feminine" or "to be twinks" or whatever. You are either conflating a very small online community's beauty standard (usually some kind of transmasc pseudo-appropriation of "femboy" aesthetics, which yes, are often Bad and regressive and fetishized and etc.) with Mainstream Society, or confusing society not wanting trans men to transition with "wanting trans men to be feminine", which are certainly not the same thing. Ultimately if a cis person believes there is any validity to the concept of being trans (i.e. not a Posie Parker-esque "there's no such thing as a trans person" type), they are more likely to think that trans men should be like as masc and buff and hairy as possible or whatever bc that's what cis people think men look like and it's easier for a lot of people to recognize someone who Looks Masc as a man. It is difficult sometimes to see derision of trans guys who are Too Feminine and Not Hairy Enough or whatever (which is not always something someone has control over btw) as anything but "this is Skye who I think is a confused little girl because Skye does not pass" slightly restyled for 2023 "filthcore fagdykes" or whatever lol
#and btw 'twink' is not synonymous with 'skinny' that's not all it means i am so so so tired of seeing it used that way#i am also tired of like Positivity Posts for 'bears' needing to be based on derision of 'twinks'. get over that!#open mick night#lgbt#gender#god this is like that post where op is like It's sooooo hard being a trans girl who wants a vagina bc that's not the mainstream :pensive:#is it not? mainstream society decided women can have dicks? since when?#let men be masculine or whatever#sorry i know i've been talking abt this a lot lately but yknow it Is difficult. given the way i look and all that#like people keep saying that elliot page tweet was Actually About Body Type but like. is it? or is it about I Don't Think Elliot Page Passe#also tbh people say the same shit abt cis men. 'people are okay with Fem Queers(tm) but not Masc Queers(tm)' wow are they? since when?#and are the people telling men they're not allowed to be masculine in the room with us right now
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How can you say things like "forcemasc is stupid because masculinity is seen as inherently good" and not realise that you know absolutely nothing about the transmasc experience. Do you hear yourselves
#chernikocore#im not rlly into forcemasc but any 'discourse' around it is so stupid#do trans men who are pressured into not transitioning because its 'ruining their body' and 'making them unlovable' mean nothing to you#do trans men who are forced into being 'soft' and accepting abuse because they're treated as dangerous otherwise mean nothing to you#do butches who are treated as inherently predatory and abusive mean nothing to you#do gnc trans women who are constantly misgendered + viewed as lying predators who want to abuse women mean nothing to you#do woc who are masculinised so they can be abused easier mean nothing to you#do cis women who are abused into being perfect feminine housewives mean nothing to you#masculinity is only seen as 'inherently good' if its in cis men. what are you saying#im sure theres even more examples in forgetting#trans men like forcemasc because they're told their masculinity makes them dangerous and unwanted#and forcemasc tells them that no actually its good and i want to help you be who you are#why is there even discourse about it. this is so stupid#i was posting jokey discourse before im so sorry for posting actual discourse now. i keep doing it im trying not to#but im so easily frustrated these days;; ahh#whatever im home now im gonna eat and then answer asks. if ur still reading this ily and i hope u have a good week :)
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The "I thought that was a butch lesbian but it's just Sol Badguy" meme has me convinced that a significant portion of GG fans don't know that Guilty Gear even has women in it
#textpost#Stop tagging my art with this it's weird#Butch lesbians deserve better than yet another fandom using a cis man to represent them Again#Especially when there are better options#Consider: Baiken (esp. her ML design); Giovanna; maybe even pre-Strive ABA#Hell you could probably even make I-No butch#People would rather rewrite and redesign an entire male character before they'd consider giving one of the established women a better outfi#It's like this backwards thing where people think making the cis men women is progressive but when there are canon trans women#or nonbinary people they're suddenly allergic to the idea#Anyone that doesn't think Testament is as cool as Sol Badguy is out of their mind#Bridget is nerfed by being British... (JOKING!!!)
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ok, enough wholesome dadson. time to sexualize terrible fathers. (cw for: dadson incest + FtM son POV + transphobia / misgendering / fetishizing / forcemasc)
transphobic dad: doesn't approve of you transitioning or taking T, but isn't stopping you and doesn't seem turned off by the changes, even after you pass consistently as a man. doesn't know how T even works, always lowkey curious about the changes. he does like that you're so much hornier on T and don't even have periods anymore. tugs at your facial hair (ow? wtf :/) and goes "huh? it's real? I thought you drew it on every morning!" with a hearty laugh. dad joke? he might have actually thought so. backhanded praise, mean jokes at your expense, and moments where he genders you correctly, by accident.
thought you would eventually change your mind and give up transitioning "when you realise that being a man is hard," as if he's not the one making it hard. he might actually think of you as a son at some point, but he was never taught to apologize, he's "always right," he's stubborn, so he will keep calling you a daughter because a father can't show weakness. wants to call you homophobic slurs sooo bad, but that would be admitting defeat.
gets angry when you bring up surgery bc he likes to squeeze your tits and fuck your pussy. won't do any anal because it's gay. and clearly, he's isn't, he says. definitely closeted.
trans boy chaser dad: for better or for worse, only took an interest in your life when he found out you're a trans guy, fixed his relationship with you by treating you more like a date than as his son.
excited, touchy-feely, even creepy. eager to please. just pathetically horny for the way your body's changing from T - he won't misgender you. you get aggressively reaffirmed to the point of it getting annoyingly patronizing actually. regardless, he fucks you hard, encouraging you to moan with your cracking voice, and is too horny to feel bad about the incest. it's a welcome change from the previous emotional distance, but you feel used, like he's taking advantage of your newly high libido.
fixated on your body and everything "clockable," would rather you didn't get any surgery... says you're already perfect as is, from just testosterone... it does feel nice that he takes some sort of pride in having a son now, fully embracing you, the way he finds even all the awkward changes (sparse facial hair, voice cracks etc) not just endearing, not just attractive, but really fucking hot. and it's a relief for your body which craves that release. but. dad might just completely lose interest a few years into T, if you pass consistently.
bisexual, he says. but of course not into cis men.
transmed dad: thinks he knows what's best for your body, forcemascs you in his own ideals, pushing you to work hard to speed up your transition, to become a "real" man. you were so happy that dad accepted you being a trans guy so wholeheartedly and proudly, but the acceptance seems to have turned into overbearing surveillance...
dad insists on doing your T injections himself, because he doesn't trust that you'll actually do them. "no son of mine will be a fucking embarrassing softboy pansy who never transitions for real, have some dignity, god damn it! either you transition fully or you don't transition at all!" ...he pushes you to consider top and bottom surgery asap, to become a "real man," regardless of what you might want. he very excitedly looks forward to the day you can top him with your real cock, like a son should. :)
he makes you like anal because that's how real men do it. you're absolutely not allowed to derive any pleasure from anywhere but your ass and T-dick, and the phantom sensation of a strapon. he's good at working your T-dick though, it's all almost worth it just for that...
love, validation, and praise only when you've "earned it." if you fail to live up to his strict expectations, the things he says fucking hurt. misgenders you as punishment and threatens to withhold your testosterone "since you want to stay a girl so bad."
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so, all of these options leave you feeling unsatisfied and degraded in one way or another!! yippee! no, there's no option for a Normal About Trans Men And Masculinity Dad, this is the Terrible Fathers dadson poll. you must choose.
#dadson#dadcest#forcemasc#shipcest#cw for cringe kinks 😔#transphobia kink#ftm misgendering#toxic forcemasc#transmed kink#fauxcest#poll#can't decide if it's more fun for transmed dad to be cis or trans himself#cis transmed dad is like ''let a real man show you how it's done'' and tries to make you as close to a cis man as possible#trans transmed dad is more like ''I've gone through this. I know exactly what you need. I'll make it easier for you.''#I like inventing dads who kinda suck#boomer old men often hold terrible opinions and refuse to change#writing#transphobic dad#chaser dad#transmed dad#truscum dad#wanted to go all in on the personality and characteristics rather than physical attributes but um. duh. they're hot and exactly your type#for me? chubby-muscular with thick eyebrows and dark hair that's going silver. all over. feels comforting to the touch#even if they are anything BUT comforting#jerk. creep. cruel.#yea transphobic dad could be more violent but im not personally into physical violence or forcfem. just casual unceasing disrespect#although there IS nothing more manly than getting into a yelling match and then a physical scuffle with your shitty dad. rite of passage#long post#fic
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idk about yall but one of my most ever favorite aftg headcanons is that Andrew is really good with kids, and in the future when Aaron and Katelyn settle down and have kids, their kids will absolutely adore "Uncle Andrew", and he'll happily suffer through whatever sort of play the kids want to do with an as genuine and un-menacing smile on his face as he can manage, whenever he and Neil (and Kevin) come to visit
#the “(and Kevin)” is because i am incapable of imagining adult andreil without it turning into kevandreil#idk why i just really like Kevin being in there especially once they're all grown up and have at least some of their shit sorted out#anyways!#in my version of things Katelyn and Aaron have twins 🥺#two girls. and i read some headcanon at some point that one of Aaron's kids was trans and Andrew was the first person they came out to#and i think that's adorable and im obsessed with it so in my headcanon Aaron and Katelyn have twins. a cis girl and a trans girl#and they're supportive ofc. she just told Andrew first cause ya know uncle's presumably have less expectations of how you'll grow up#and therefore have less potential to be upset about you being trans#.........#im not projecting onto Katelyn and Aaron's non-existent kids fuck you shutup#aftg my beloved#all for the game#aftg#andrew minyard#aaron minyard#katelyn mackenzie#kateaaron#andreil#kevandreil#kandreil#the twinyards#twinyards#neil josten#kevin day#katelyn minyard#the foxhole court#the raven king#the king's men
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Queer and disabled and nonwhite cis men have been fighting for reproductive rights for the entire fucking time, but sure, tell me how trans and intersex men can't possibly have any skin in the game "because they're men."
#transphobia#transandrophobia#Most people forget trans and intersex women entirely too.#There is a breed of chronically online weirdo who will bend over backwards to include trans women but not trans men though#because they're so fucking stupid they think reproductive rights and the attack thereof is a gender thing#and not just a human fucking being thing.#Denying a cis gay dude the ability to adopt or get healthcare or escape from abuse is the same issue and just as damaging.#You people are activists the same way ripped gucci jeans are grunge.#☠️
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#warhammer 40k#female space marines#BUT ITS NOT CANO- everything is canon. nothing is true.#idk this has just been my experience of the debate#even the people who disagree with me are more civil about it when they're not cis men
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Yk sometimes I follow cis women and quickly realize I don't want to follow them when a real issue in feminism comes up and all they want to do is reblog posts that say "I hate men xx"
#it just feels like blaming men as a collective takes away their agency#men aren't just built like that they're conditioned and they can grow from it#also define men to me. right now. define men#which men do you hate? just cis men? what about trans men? latino men? do you think they're also inherently violent#purr purr purr#lgbt#lgbtq#queer
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Queer bar down my street doing an introduction to shibari this month but it's for "women, lesbians, intersex, non-binary and trans people"
#bestie..... come on now.#what is that. why would that make me more comfortable than letting a cis guy in#i just. i need (& want) to get out of the house more. but i'm not going to get along with the people who attend#like ooooh the terrifying specter of.... a cis guy. brrrr. scary.#i'm assuming it's 'because cis men are more likely to be creeps' or whatever but it just. bugs me#can't imagine actually feeling like a guy more than 1% of the time and trying to go there#i mean. 'oh no cis guys but you're trans so it's fine :) you have a relationship with gender that cis guys don't have!'#'what about cis women? do they have a relationship with their gender? oh uh. well they're a minority also.'#anyway. no aspec meetup this month still so it doesn't matter#i need to drag k there to have Someone to be social with while they're still in town#wow i have a ramble tag now
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A trans girl is, in fact, a girl. A trans man is, in fact, a man. Your orientation is not threatened by their attractiveness.
#trans rights#trans ally#transgender#transfem#transmasc#trans woman#trans man#trans men#You have no idea how insufferable I find other cis people who feel the need to add a little footnote that they're straight#when seeing trans stuff
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I'm actually so done with people (including "allies") using trans* men in order to attack trans* women. There is no trans liberation without all of us.
"Oh, you don't see trans men doing [x], but you see trans women doing it!" Actually, that just tells me that you intentionally leave trans* men out of this specific bias against trans people. It tells me everything about your attitude about trans* men and trans* women.
#trans#transgender#lgbt#lgbtq#ftm#mtf#nonbinary#transphobia#transphobia tw#transmisogyny tw#going to actually steal something out of y'all's houses if i see that EVER again#'trans men aren't invading manhood!' every time y'all say that i ~invade~ manhood even harder#genuinely saw somebody like 'trans men know they're too weak to go after [cis] manhood' and y'all are so sexist it hurts...#...like y'all really just think women(/anybody you force into womanhood) are INHERENTLY weaker...#...and people wonder why transphobia is so tied to things like racism/antisemitism/white supremacy/so many others...#...because rhetoric like this RELIES and DEPENDS ON people believing in the idea of a lesser class of peoples...#...without the idea that there is a Lesser Class/Less-Than-Human Class these ideas (eg transphobia/homophobia/sexism/rascism) CEASE to exist#scratch a transphobe and a fascist bleeds
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this flavor of trans guy misogyny where they do rhetorical backflips to explain why them not caring about women is good, actually, and since cis men are also misogynists a lot of the time we should all just stop complaining about it.
#'no one bats an eye when-'#actually yes plenty of women but particularly black women and lesbians have a lot to say about the specific brand of misogyny#that you get from cis gay men. only no one listens to women who talk about misogyny. is the thing. s o.#IM LITERALLY NOT EVEN SAYING PEOPLE NEED TO PUT FEMALE CHARACTERS IN SHIT#IM JUST SAYING IF THEYRE GONNA BE THERE IT SUCKS WHEN THEY'RE ONLY THERE TO BE PLOT MOTIVATORS FOR MEN!!!! NO ONE GIVES A SHIT WHAT YOU DO!#like if you're a trans guy and you have a complicated relationship to womanhood and don't want to spend a bunch of time#in the headspace of female characters. i get that. i can understand that. i can sympathize.#but if ur response to seeing someone complain about misogyny is 'why should i have to care about female characters' then ur just an asshole#theres a time and a place to talk about the Unique and Woke Way That You Personally Dislike Women and it's not on my fucking posts!!!!
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