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lemme know if this is supported/debunked anywhere, but i always thought it interesting how significant it was meant to be that jim got hal a framed photo of him and their dad. yes ofc martin’s death makes it significant, but did hal not have any other photos of him? the line “something i wish i could’ve given you a long time ago” gives a weight to the gift like i’m missing smth, like smth could’ve changed if he had. and the fact that jim was so excited to give it to hal all those years ago that he stayed up until midnight makes it feel even more significant, secretive even
what i’m saying is that i headcanon their mom took down all the photos of their dad bc she hated having the reminder. that’s why it’s especially painful for her seeing hal follows in martin’s footsteps, he’s the spitting image of his father. without him there, even in spirit thru framed photos, it puts a lot of pressure onto hal. i can see this being a part of her coddling and overprotectiveness, how she wants to hold onto what she has left. and i can also see how her later disowning him can reflect putting the photos away, how it seems almost contradictory that she wants to protect him so she tells him to never come back. it’s that duality of grief; she loves him so much that she can’t bear to look
god hal rly grew up in a fucked up household didn’t he, no wonder he ran away
#hal jordan#green lantern#dc#dc comics#jim jordan#jack jordan#jessica jordan#martin jordan#secret origin#panels#danbles#meta#i also wonder if jessica wanted to discourage hal from idolizing his dad#so if she kept martin away from him he would somehow forget abt it and lose interest in flying#god how fucked up is that. to keep a grieving son’s late father away from him#i hope this isn’t disproportionately angsty#i just feel like it’s rly fucked up that she wouldn’t let him see her when she was literally on her deathbed#hmm actually im looking back on these pages and im wondering if she DID say that#bc it’s jack and jim that say hal can’t see her bc of his ‘broken promise’#but then it’s later ‘hal’s fault’ that she died of a complication#implying that she got so emotional abt the fact that he was a pilot that it worsened her condition#did jack and/or jim tell her?? did she ask to see hal and they refused??#like she’s DYING could you guys not have lied and pretended that hal kept his promise#she died thinking she already lost her son how do you think that makes hal feel#god this is ill. i rly feel for him#aghh i love hal’s backstory i love seeing it bleed into his active characterization!!!
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RANDOM SUPERBAT
In this au, the young justice existed, but they or the justice league didn't know who Batman is.
•Contrary to what Superman might think, his disguise to keep his secret identity safe is an absolute and utter failure. So all of the league members know exactly who superman is in the span of a month.
• He doesn't mind much, sometimes, Wally even stops by the daily planet to chat. If a league member is in need of help (like... a safe house in metropolis) they can depend on Superman's apartment.
•Some heroes run into each other from time to time, going to and from the apartment.
•And of course they become very fast friends, so most people even knows each others identities.
• Except for Batman, but then again, he's Batman.
•They never see him anywhere near metropolis, not that he doesn't ever help out Superman, he does, he helps most considering Gotham and Metropolis are close. But they never see Batman coming to or from Clark's house or office.
• The heroes do meet Clark's boyfriend though, and they never stop being confused as to why the heck would Superman, who looks for the inner good of people, is dating Gotham's residential airhead Playboy Bruce Wayne.
• They know it's been going on for a while, and that they're not dating in public. But for gods sake, can the man stop being such an idiot every single time they meet?!?
• "Diana, I'd like to add a new hero to the league" Batman says one meeting in his growly voice.
•Would it kill him to take that stick out of his butt every once in a while. Wally finds himself thinking quite often.
•" I wouldn't mind a new recruit. Are they trustworthy though?" The green arrow, or as Wally figured out three weeks ago, Oliver asked.
•"Absolutely. Flash worked with him before. " Batman assured, honestly they weren't sure what they were worried about so much, if Batman can trust someone, any other of the leaguers can.
•"I worked with him? You mean like in young justice? ".
•" yes." Was the oh so clarifying answer
•"Well, a lot of us are here now, when do we get to meet the new member?" Oliver says after a few beats of awkward silence.
•"He should be here in a while."
• About two minutes later the arrival of the newcomer is announced, Wally's face lights up in a smile. Of course he knows the newcomer, He's been crushing on the guy for so long.
•"Man, this place looks better than I thought it would." Nightwing announces his presence.
• The leaguers easily accept Nightwing. He has always been a charmer.
•After a few days though, they seemed to notice something odd. Even though Batman is the one who introduced Nightwing to the leagues, he tends to brush off the new hero.
•*After doing a complicated acrobatic move* "Hey, B how was that one?" "Pay attention to your surroundings." "Did I do that right?" "Left leg was sloppy"
•No matter what Nightwing seemed to do, Batman never gave him due credit. Not that they themselves got treated much better, but they thought maybe with someone there he himself appointed, the cranky bat would ease up a little bit.
• It was Diana who blew up first, though to say the truth, Wally was this close to yelling at the bat too.
• "WHY ARE YOU SO STANDOFFISH TOWARDS HIM?!? WOULD IT KILL YOU TO SAY SOMETHING GOOD?!?!" Diana snapped, mostly because Nightwing is a charmer and easy to become friends with, even though he’s a lot younger than her.
•Batman stared at her for a while before answering, "I'm keeping him on his toes. As he should be all the time."
•"Wonder woman, don't worry about it, he actually has a soft gooey center under all that crabby exterior, besides, I know that I'm the favorite son." Nightwing tried to placate the fuming Amazon.
• his words worked like a wet blanket put over her anger.
•"Favorite..... Son?" Hal asked confused.
•"YEAH! I mean, I wasn't the perfect child growing up.... And that thing with the batmobile was my fault, but I caused the least amount of trouble between all of us." Nightwing informed brightly.
• The league gaped at Nightwing and the Bat, SON?!?!?
•"Well, by that theory, shouldn't Red Robin be the least troublemaking? " Superman input, helping absolutely no one to process what was being said.
•"Hey! He caused troubles too! He..... Well...... Uh...... Yeah ok, Red is the best kid." "I honestly thought, you would say Robin is the best kid." "Hey, I know the kid, and that's why I can surely say that he caused plenty of trouble"
• The rest of the league was silently gaping through Superman and Nightwing's conversation.
•"Hey B who is your favorite? " Nightwing asked. The rest of them were completely expecting Batman to stare at Nightwing until things got awkward so they were surprised when he actually speaked.
•"Black Bat. She's better than all of you. " Batman says in a deadpan tone.
•"Wait wait wait, you have children? " flash asked unable to quench his curiosity. "Yes, quite a few of them actually." Superman answers for him.
•Superman receives various vacant stares for his efforts. "Wait..... Superman, you knew that he has children?" "Uh... Yes?" Superman said as though it should be obvious.
•"Does that mean you know his identity too?" Diana asked. Nightwing snorted. "It's kinda hard not to know his identity, when superman is busy sucking his face all the time." Nightwing says.
•"WHAT?!?! I thought you were dating Wayne?!?" Wally says looking horrified.
• And now it's Nightwing'a turn to look confused. "Uh, yeah, KF, .......where were you going with that?"
•"If he's dating Bruce Wayne then......." Flash pointers at Superman, " why is he kissing Batman? " Diana prompted.
•"Waaait....... You guys didn't........ Oh my god B they did know?!?!?" Nightwing turned towards Batman looking mortified.
•They all looked at Batman to see him pinching between his eyes over his cowl. Even with it on, they got the message clearly. It was 'done with all of your shit'
• "did something happen to Bruce Wayne?" Oliver asked tentatively.
•"uh, Batman, mind saying something before they decide you died?" Superman prompted.
•"not really " the black clad man grunted.
• "B I know you find this hilarious, but I think some members of the league is about to have aneurisms." Nightwing pointed out though not looking much remorseful himself.
•"fine... " Batman turned to the rest of the league, "if any of you even think about abusing this information, just remember that I know your deepest darkest secrets." He warned before taking off his cowl.
#superbat#batman#nightwing#superman#wonder woman#flash#identity reveal#bruce wayne is batman#i know shocker#justice league
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This baby sperm whale was tangled in ocean trash for 3 years
Craig Welch - January 2, 2019
A thick strand of rope, a wayward piece of quarter-inch cord from a fishing net, dangled off the tail of a young sperm whale. To the untrained eye, the line looked harmless—a lasso cinched near the base of the animal's fluke. But Gero knew the rope was a killer.
The photographs emailed from a colleague showed the heavy rope weighing down the animal's tail. That could prevent her from diving, which is how sperm whales hunt food. As she grew, the constriction would also slice through her flesh, strangling tissue like a garrote. The line might even amputate her fluke, though infection or starvation would probably do her in first.
At home in Ottawa, Gero pushed back from the computer. He called his wife and tried not to cry.
Digit the sperm whale was not quite four, but Gero had known her family for years. Each spring for a decade the Canadian behavioral ecologist had abandoned his own brood to spend months with these whales in the Caribbean Sea near the tiny West Indies island nation of Dominica. Though not yet 40, the assistant professor at Aarhus University in Denmark was rapidly becoming the world's foremost expert on baby sperm whales. Digit and her relatives were his star subjects.
Digit's very existence was significant. Thousands of sperm whales traverse the world's oceans. But 12 of the 16 whale families that returned each year to this stretch of the Caribbean were dying off. Each family could be down to a single whale in just 15 years.
Also, sperm whale families are matrilineal. Adult males eventually get cast out, and females bear the exclusive burden of rearing the young. For years, the family had produced a string of males. Three of them—Thumb, Tweak, and Enigma—had died already. Scar would soon disappear.
The family needed a female calf.
So Digit's arrival in 2011 left Gero's research team ecstatic. The crew watched Digit wean herself from her mother, Fingers. They cheered when she flipped her fluke up for her first deep dive. With Digit's arrival, the most-studied sperm whale family in the world seemed poised to carry on.
Then, in 2015, Gero received the images.
Sociable leviathans
In literature, sperm whales are ship-splintering beasts—monsters of "inscrutable malice," as Ahab seethed in Herman Melville's Moby Dick. In reality, that is far from true.
The world's largest toothed whales have the animal kingdom's biggest brains. The deep-diving nomads share membership in clans that can number in the thousands. Each clan chatters in its own dialect using a unique set of click patterns. These whales are social and playful. They roll and rub against each other near the surface. Some engage in hide-and-seek games, swimming circles around scientists' research boats and rolling sideways to eye the inhabitants. Sperm whales also are quite curious, especially when spying unfamiliar debris.
Gero, a National Geographic Explorer, could guess what had happened to Digit. Caribbean fishermen anchor nets to the sea floor to lure marlin, tuna, and mahi mahi. Whales rarely disturb that fixed gear, but container and cruise ships often accidentally shred it. Flapping ghost nets draw inquisitive creatures, and those loose lines are to whales what spider webs are to flies. While there are no reliable global statistics, at least 76 large whales, including humpbacks, blues, and minkes, got trapped in nets, lines, or debris in 2017—just in United States waters. And the vast majority of entanglements go unseen.
Gero suspects Digit simply snagged a loop of loose line. Three other whales in the region had recently been snared by fishing gear. One, a mother with a broken jaw, was forced to drag her dead calf for days after both got trapped in the same nest of lines. (The mother's injured mouth suggested she'd tried gnawing the calf free.)
Gero and colleagues reached out to Michael Moore, senior scientist at Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution in Massachusetts. He had helped untangle endangered North Atlantic right whales.
Moore's assessment was bleak. The pictures showed Digit's noose was tight. Only a dozen feet of line trailed her—too little to attach buoys to keep a deep-diving sperm whale near the surface. That was essential for rescuers to work. Without more line, a team would struggle to get close.
"There was so little gear on her," Moore says. "It was not going to be a slam dunk."
There were other complications. Dominica isn't New England. There wasn't a trained disentanglement crew for hundreds of miles. Getting one would take money and time. No one knew how much time they had.
"We were confronted with the long-term, chronic, slow death of an animal we see every day—one we thought we'd know forever," Gero says.
It felt personal.
Getting to know them
Gero had studied under sperm whale guru Hal Whitehead, at Halifax's Dalhousie University. Whitehead believed these sophisticated leviathans deserved the same respect as primates. Whitehead mostly studied adults. As a student, Gero wanted to learn about the young: Which family members raised them? When did they first dive deep? How did they learn their dialect—and from whom?
So in 2005, the young scientist arrived in Dominica aboard Whitehead's 40-foot research sailboat, Balaena. There he found a gathering of whales he would dub the Group of Seven, named for a collective of famed Canadian painters.
The Group of Seven tended to spend weeks near this coast. They were spotted more often than other whales. That first year, Gero's team spent an astonishing 40 days cataloging this one family's behavior.
"We'd go into shore and get groceries and come back and we'd still see the same animals just offshore," Gero says. "That's unheard of."
It's why their names seem flip—Gero needed to tell them apart, but had never expected he'd see them again.
As with Jane Goodall's chimpanzees and Dian Fossey's mountain gorillas, intimate access revealed each animal's distinct habits and personality. Over time, Gero began to see these whales as individuals.
Fingers appeared to be in charge. She usually broadcast the "coda," four clicks that identified the family to other whales, like a surname. When her offspring, Thumb, died, Fingers helped watch over others' young. She steered clear of people and was known for spectacular dives, muscling her fluke high before plunging straight down.
"It's hard to describe how beautifully she flukes to someone who doesn’t watch hundreds of whales do it," says Gero, whose research is conducted through Aarhus University's Marine Bioacoustics Laboratory. "It feels like she is demonstrating to others the way."
Fingers' niece, Pinchy, was mother to Scar, who was so comfortable with humans he'd become a star in Dominica's swim-with-whales tourism industry. There was sickly Quasimodo, and Mysterio, so named because she appeared rarely.
Gero felt a growing kinship with the cetaceans. "The whales were becoming a part of my life," he says. "My kids knew these animals by name even though they'd never met them."
The whales prompted him to rethink his views on conservation. In many sperm whale families, calves get milk from other calves' mothers. The Group of Seven's young only got milk from their actual mothers. If behaviors and communication were unique to clans or families, didn't that suggest conservation should be about more than total population numbers? Wasn't each clan special in its own right?
In 2011 a documentary crew arrived, led by a filmmaker who'd co-produced the Fossey biopic, Gorillas in the Mist. When Fingers gave birth to a new calf that week, Gero knew what to call her.
He named the new calf Digit, after Fossey's favorite silverback. Only later would he recall what humans did to Fossey's gorilla.
Wasting away
Before arriving in Dominica for the 2015 research season, Gero had only seen Digit's injuries in emailed pictures. In person things looked even worse. Before she got tangled, the young whale had just started swimming and diving alone. Now she only appeared with adults. She was reserved instead of curious. She kept her distance from boats and people.
"It was like she was trying to say, 'This is all your fault, you humans,'" says Pernell Francis, who has worked with Gero.
Gero could see the rope gouging her flesh. More troubling still: Digit couldn't raise her fluke. The rope was creating too much drag. As he'd feared, she could not dive deep, which was hampering her hunt for squid.
Word of Digit's condition spread. Ted Cheeseman, who took clients swimming with whales, raised money to hire a professional disentanglement team. Whale advocates whispered about cutting the rope themselves. Gero knew that was too dangerous.
"There are Internet videos where people have done it, but they're bloody lucky they didn't kill themselves," Moore says. A trained rescuer would die in 2017, after being struck by a whale he'd just freed.
Eventually someone took the plunge anyway. The diver shortened Digit's rope, but could not cut the noose. The shorter line reduced the drag on Digit's tail, but now even less cord remained for pros to work with.
Ultimately, no rescue crew would be coming. Cheeseman ended up using the money he'd raised to buy and stash equipment for future rescues. He paid to assemble and train a future Dominica disentanglement crew.
Digit, meanwhile, grew ever thinner. No longer able to catch her own food, she returned to being nursed by Fingers.
"It was like watching your child go back to crawling," Gero says.
People care
One afternoon in Dominica a boat zipped by and a woman shouted: "Hey Shane, how can I help Digit?" Gero was taken aback. Even strangers were worried.
That night Gero ate on the deck of his research boat, beneath a dangling headlamp. The Group of Seven was in trouble. That family was now on the brink, down to just three whales: Fingers, Pinchy, and Digit. But the stranger's query was a reminder that Digit's story held real power.
While humans are attached to dolphins and orcas, many can't even identify a sperm whale. Fewer still understand the gantlet of threats these nomads face: pollution, climate change, ship strikes, fishing gear.
"But people can understand a mom caring for a kid who is suddenly facing a chronic injury," Gero says.
Gero vowed something useful would come of Digit's wounds.
Over the next several years, Gero expanded his research's focus on conservation. He wrote and lectured more. He spoke at museums and even mentioned Digit's quandary during a TEDx Talk. He and a team mapped whale and vessel movements and urged the government to restrict ship traffic to areas that whales avoided. Gero hoped that might help fishing-boat operators find ship-free places to set nets.
"Digit changed the whole perspective of our project," Gero says. No longer was whale behavior his sole interest. Now he asked: "What can we do to ensure we all co-exist?"
Still he couldn't help Digit. She had not resumed fluking. Her flesh began to grow around the rope, closing over it. Gero suspected he was watching Digit die.
Miracle
Then last spring he saw her again from the bow of Balaena. Days into the 2018 field season, Digit popped to the surface. Gero knew immediately that everything had changed.
The outline of Digit's spine was no longer so visible. She had gotten plump. Looking closely, Gero could see abrasions and marks where the rope had rubbed. The line itself was simply gone.
A few months earlier, a colleague in Dominica had emailed to say he'd heard Digit had lost her rope. Gero had been hopeful, but skeptical. Now as Digit moved to slip below the surface, Gero's entire team fell silent. Digit flipped her fluke and dove. A cheer erupted from the boat. After three years, Digit was free.
Later, the scientist and his team would attach a tracking device to Digit's back. When they eventually reviewed the tag's data, Gero was overwhelmed. Digit was diving more than 3,000 feet. She was slurping up squid. Digit was behaving like a healthy seven-year-old whale.
No one knows how she got free. Cheeseman suspects that sunlight, time, and pressure weakened Digit's line until it finally broke. Moore says if Digit swam near a sharp rock or crevice, she might have scraped the deteriorating rope off. Other whales might even have helped.
"If someone told me two sperm whales had a tug of war over the line and it broke, I'd believe it," Moore says.
Gero has another idea. He saw fresh scars on Digit's fluke. He suspects predators may have attacked her and unwittingly ripped off the gear.
But Gero knows he'll never be certain. He almost prefers it that way.
"It's easy to forget that that there are thousands of species right next to us with rich and complicated worlds, living their lives in parallel with our own," Gero says.
A new generation of Eastern Caribbean sperm whale was swimming free. Knowing that would be enough.
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Why Did This Healthy New Mother Die After Childbirth?
A healthy New Jersey mother died after giving birth because of a health issue her care team missed. (Photo: Getty Images)
A heartbreaking story of a neonatal nurse who died 20 hours after giving birth has been circulating on the Internet, with many expressing outrage over her senseless death.
In 2011, Lauren Bloomstein was a 33-year-old first-time mom with a healthy, active pregnancy, according to the groundbreaking investigative story, “The Last Person You’d Expect to Die in Childbirth,” published May 12 by ProPublica and NPR. Especially comforting to the Moorestown, N.J., mom was the fact that she would give birth at the Monmouth Medical Center in Long Branch, where she worked in the neonatal department.
When she was 39 weeks and six days along, Bloomstein and her husband, Larry, headed to the hospital for her to be induced, a common procedure that kick-starts contractions. Afterward, Bloomstein began experiencing “stabbing” pain near her kidneys or liver, so doctors increased her epidural dosage, and on the evening of October 1, she gave birth to her daughter, Hailey Ann Bloomstein. In a video of the mother and daughter, published in the story, Bloomstein can be seen lovingly gazing into her daughter’s eyes.
However, Bloomstein’s pain never subsided, and hospital staff, chalking up the problem to acid reflux, a common side effect of labor, administered an antacid and painkillers.
Soon, Bloomstein’s blood pressure spiked, so the hospital ran a test for preeclampsia, a pregnancy complication marked by high blood pressure that affects up to 8 percent of pregnancies. Her results were not abnormal for the condition; however, Larry kept pushing for answers. It was only when he called his own colleague for help that he learned his wife’s condition was most likely HELLP, a severe type of preeclampsia that if not treated immediately could lead to internal bleeding and stroke.
In Bloomstein’s case, her elevated blood pressure caused bleeding in the brain, and she had decreased levels of blood platelets (cells that help the body form clots to prevent bleeding). Making matters worse, the hospital didn’t have a sufficient supply on site to use in surgery.
A few hours later, Bloomstein died.
“[E]very year in the U.S., 700 to 900 women die from pregnancy or childbirth-related causes, and some 65,000 nearly die — by many measures, the worst record in the developed world,” according to ProPublica/NPR. “American women are more than three times as likely as Canadian women to die in the maternal period [defined by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention as the start of pregnancy to one year after delivery or termination], and six times as likely to die as Scandinavians. In every other wealthy country, and many less affluent ones, maternal mortality rates have been falling; in Great Britain, the journal Lancet recently noted, the rate has declined so dramatically that ‘a man is more likely to die while his partner is pregnant than she is.’ But in the U.S., maternal deaths increased from 2000 to 2014. In a recent analysis by the CDC Foundation, nearly 60 percent of such deaths were preventable.”
Why do so many women die as a result of pregnancy complications or childbirth?
While it’s impossible to understand the entirety of the circumstances surrounding Bloomstein’s death, according to Hal Lawrence, MD, executive vice president and chief executive officer of the American Congress of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG), there are multiple general factors. “Women are having babies later in life, and advanced age often means underlying issues with diabetes and blood pressure, for example,” he tells Yahoo Beauty. “Obesity is also an issue — more than half of women in this country have BMIs greater than 30, which can complicate a pregnancy. And IVF rates have increased, which can lead to multiple babies and more high-risk pregnancies to begin with.”
Also concerning is inadequate federal funding that goes toward maternal care versus infant care — ProPublica/NPR reports that only 6 percent of block grants in 2016 went toward programs for mothers versus 78 percent devoted to infants.
For Bloomstein, miscommunication between hospital staff members worsened her odds of survival. Despite “abnormally high” blood pressure readings, she was inadequately monitored, including an eight-hour period when she simply wasn’t monitored at all. In a deposition following her death, Bloomstein’s ob-gyn admitted that she “might have been recommended to be monitored more closely, in retrospect.”
In 2012, Larry Bloomstein filed a complaint against Monmouth Medical Center, and the New Jersey Department of Health ultimately found fault with the hospital. Among its findings: “There is no record in the medical record that the Registered Nurse notified [the ob-gyn] of the elevated blood pressures of patient prior to delivery,” and “there is no evidence in the medical record of further evaluation and surveillance of patient from [the ob-gyn] prior to delivery.” And finally: “There was no evidence in the medical record that the elevated blood pressures were addressed by [the ob-gyn] until after the Code Stroke was called.” Larry Bloomstein also sued the hospital, his wife’s ob-gyn, and five nurses.
Their daughter, Hailey, is now 5 years old and lives with Larry and his new wife, whom he married in 2014. “By far the hardest thing for me to accept is [what happened] from Lauren’s perspective,” he told ProPublica/NPR. “I can’t, I literally can’t accept it. The amount of pain she must have experienced in that exact moment when she finally had this little girl. … I can accept the amount of pain I have been dealt. But [her pain] is the one thing I just can’t accept. I can’t understand, I can’t fathom it.”
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shoutout to @ceeloilights for always having thought-provoking tags on my rambles 👊 i’ve responded to it in a big batch below! it rly does paint a picture for the behind-the-scenes of hal’s family…
(my tags for context to some of these responses):
#i also wonder if jessica wanted to discourage hal from idolizing his dad #so if she kept martin away from him he would somehow forget abt it and lose interest in flying #god how fucked up is that. to keep a grieving son's late father away from him #i hope this isn't disproportionately angsty #i just feel like it's rly fucked up that she wouldn't let him see her when she was literally on her deathbed #hmm actually im looking back on these pages and im wondering if she DID say that #bc it's jack and jim that say hal can't see her bc of his 'broken promise’ #but then it's later ‘hal's fault' that she died of a complication #implying that she got so emotional abt the fact that he was a pilot that it worsened her condition #did jack and/or jim tell her?? did she ask to see hal and they refused?? #like she's DYING could you guys not have lied and pretended that hal kept his promise #she died thinking she already lost her son how do you think that makes hal feel
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#i mean it also couldve been the family just doesnt have many photos of their dad in general and they thought the only other one they had was #the one martin brought up in his jets when he flew until jim found another pic of martin #but bec hes a child and a mamas boy he didnt want to fuel hals want to leave and become like their dad so he kept it a secret (@ceeloilights)
maybe it wasn’t all of their photos of martin that jessica put away, but probably all the ones with hal! maybe they still kept up portraits or even family photos with him, but the one jim gifted hal was the time he’d ditch school to go hang out with his dad on the airfields. there’s a reminder jessica would hate to keep around.
and that is fucked UP if it was jim that kept that hidden from hal. it always seemed like he was the one caught in the crossfire of everything, but it would make sense considering that when jack didn’t want hal to see their mom, jim agreed despite being torn by the decision. following what his older brother says, trying to look out for their mom, i can understand why he’d do it. but damn does that not make it hurt any less.
this in tandem to hal thinking, “i thought no one understood me. i was wrong” when jim gave him the photo, honestly stings a little. it makes me think that jim is torn between every family member. he’s a mama’s boy for sure, but he cares abt his brothers deeply. he didn’t even seem to choose a side when they fought, he just wanted them to stop fighting.
#i read it as jim just never having the time(seen w jim having to rush back to sue) or appropriate occasion to give hal the gift #but like the ANGST and GUILT of jim stowing the pic away everytime he talks to hal
i think it’s both timing and jim’s internal conflict! the family rarely keeps in touch in general (gee i wonder why), but that guilt of him not wanting hal to leave, the guilt that jim doesn’t want to fuel anything against the promise hal made to their mom… i think it’s notable that the “appropriate occasion to give hal the gift” only happened when she passed (oh god ☹️)
#i always hced hals mom pushing him away bec its her way of coping knowing the ppl she loves will die is by putting distance b/w them #she might know wat shes doing is wrong but she doesnt want hal to miss her either
i think there are aspects of this that are true in secret origins, esp keeping a distance bc of potential grief. but idk if i’d say it’s to protect hal’s feelings of missing her, it feels very much like a selfish (albeit understandable) thing to want to protect him. i always thought her overprotectiveness was the magnetic push to hal’s rebelliousness (“i thought there was nothing left to be afraid of. mom thought there was everything” / “i didn’t understand her. and she didn’t understand me.”)
#but i feel like jess wouldnt be the kind of person to fully wipe someones traces away lmao maybe #she still let the boys celebrate christmas even tho technically there jewish bec its like a tradition that they love #even if its based off of her husbands beliefs and reminds hal (and prob her) about his dads death #but ig celebrating ur husbands holiday once a year isn't the same as seeing ur dead husbands face everyday in a pic
it can go hand in hand! i don’t think she’d want to forget abt martin’s death completely ofc, after all, jessica is the one to encourage hal to light the candles in his father’s memory despite it being a catholic tradition via darkseid war (which, sidenote, isn’t it interesting that hal remembers his dad as someone that thought church was stupid anyway? i think it plays a lot into hal feeling like his mom doesn’t understand him and vice versa, but it’s smth they do regardless bc of what it symbolizes for themselves). i think choosing that holiday as smth they can use to celebrate martin’s life is a symbol in that way as well. but imagine the anniversary of his death comes around, i don’t think they’d have that same energy of family connection and understanding. jessica would take that HARD. and it’s the same thing with the photos, the constant reminder is different than making the choice to acknowledge it.
and the reason i have this hc is bc it echoes the way she treats hal’s passion. it’s not even the flying, which would ofc worry her, but she doesn’t even like that hal played with airplanes as a kid? she might not wipe every trace of her husband away from the family, but she’s definitely not allowing certain parts of it
i actually forgot i had this panel of her (presumably) explaining to hal why he can’t have his toy planes anymore. like they’re in one big box full of photos, hello?? where are you putting the box jessica??
#also i dont think jack and jim would lie to hal #like jack and hal got a rivalry but telling ur brother that he cant see his mom is like not up there Imao #but ig telling him hes the death of their mom is a shallow blow too (scapegoat hal as always lol) #i always thought bec jack was the one taking care of her it was more like a game of telephone where their mom said one thing and jacks #jealousy and hatred for hal made him think she meant something different or just thought hal didnt deserve to see her
see, the way i was thinking abt it was that it was true that the doctor said anything upsetting would worsen her condition, and it’s also true that hal is an emotional trigger for her. IF they lied, it would be to protect her, as they’ve always done, not to punish hal, and the reason i was wondering if they did was bc i’m curious how that conversation with their mom was brought up. DOES she still care abt that broken promise, even now on her death bed?? or was it that game of telephone you mentioned, where she asks where is hal, and they tell her he can’t see her, all while dancing around the (emotionally triggering) reason why. “jack won’t let you. i can’t let you either.” says more abt their choices than jessica’s. if they kept from him the fact that she was dying of cancer this whole time, i wouldn’t say it’s completely out of character for them to make the executive decision to keep it up.
#its like [jack] wasted his life putting time and effort into something taking care of something with nothing to show #then his brother shows up thinking he can say he cared for their mom when jack was the one by her side the whole time
no like that’s so fucked up 😭😭 bc it’s not just hal not understanding how much jack had sacrificed for their family, the other side of that same coin is jack not understanding that hal couldn’t take care of her bc of how much she pushed him AWAY. good lord i love a well-written dysfunctional sibling dynamic, but i forget how much it hurts me.
#like hal said jack was the one who cared for her he put his whole life on hold to come to her care while hal had to be told shes dying
it’s still insane to me that he had to FIND OUT his mom was dying of cancer, that shit doesn’t just happen overnight. from jack’s perspective, hal was the one that chose to leave the family behind, but hal sees it as never being welcomed into it. jack thinks hal is selfish for living for himself, and the wild thing is that hal is the one that escaped that toxic household. jack’s sacrifice is what makes him “selfless” in comparison, and the resentment that built up from it is hal’s fault, not the long history that created this environment to begin with. he doesn’t question why hal ran away, just that he chose between himself and his family.
and i don’t think hal was the one that didn’t want to come back either:
god it rly is such an interesting familial backstory, especially for dc. i always found it fascinating how hal has more or less come to terms with his trauma PRIOR to active canon, but it still bleeds into his characterization now. and i love that i rly can’t blame anyone, you can totally see where each person is coming from. it’s like putting a bunch of wounded animals in a cage, you know things would be different if it weren’t for the close proximity. but that’s the thing abt family isn’t it 😔 i said it before and i’ll say it again: no wonder hal ran away.
note: none of my firsthand sources of media cast jessica in a charitable light, so i will be keeping an eye out for iterations that show other sides to her. but i don’t think that negates what she’s done, or the effect it had on the boys, or how hal remembers it now. i think it just makes the family a lot more… complicated.
lemme know if this is supported/debunked anywhere, but i always thought it interesting how significant it was meant to be that jim got hal a framed photo of him and their dad. yes ofc martin’s death makes it significant, but did hal not have any other photos of him? the line “something i wish i could’ve given you a long time ago” gives a weight to the gift like i’m missing smth, like smth could’ve changed if he had. and the fact that jim was so excited to give it to hal all those years ago that he stayed up until midnight makes it feel even more significant, secretive even
what i’m saying is that i headcanon their mom took down all the photos of their dad bc she hated having the reminder. that’s why it’s especially painful for her seeing hal follows in martin’s footsteps, he’s the spitting image of his father. without him there, even in spirit thru framed photos, it puts a lot of pressure onto hal. i can see this being a part of her coddling and overprotectiveness, how she wants to hold onto what she has left. and i can also see how her later disowning him can reflect putting the photos away, how it seems almost contradictory that she wants to protect him so she tells him to never come back. it’s that duality of grief; she loves him so much that she can’t bear to look
god hal rly grew up in a fucked up household didn’t he, no wonder he ran away
#green lantern#hal jordan#jessica jordan#jack jordan#jim jordan#martin jordan#dc#secret origin#panels#danbles#meta#it’s like we’re doing a case study 😋#i love getting to bounce my blorbos off of other ppl!!!!#yippee!!!!!!
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