#but oh boy certain episodes are gonna be VERY DIFFERENT now!
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breakfastteatime · 1 year ago
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Let the Gotham rewatch begin 👍
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reginalusus · 8 months ago
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I don't know if this has been asked before but what are your headcanons for Harvey and two-face? Wholesome and not so wholesome 🔞 lol
Anything they have in common, for example are they both super organized/need things a certain way? Different love languages?
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Oh, boy, do I...
By the way, I ramble a lot...
So this is gonna be long post.
It's just a thing with me. Only super-cool people relate. /j
I also tend to base *some* headcanons on what is already canon, or blend them in some way, so some of this might be old news.
Oh, and I'll put a cut before the suggestive ones just so people who don't want to see that sort of stuff can safely scroll by.
EDIT: The cut does not seem to be working because Tumblr hates me so, um, WARNING FOR SUGGESTIVE STUFF.
He's 6'5". His height has fluctuated in his appearances, but I much prefer when he's taller than Bruce, such as in Telltale and BTAS. BuT a DisTRIct AtTornEY dOesN't NeE- lalalalalala, I don't careeeeeee. I like the image of him being physically imposing, not just for villainous purposes, but also to juxtapose how much of a sweetheart he is, or was. There is also another reason.
He stims with his coin. Months back I talked in length about how I think Harvey might view his coin as a way to reclaim his abuse against his father, but I also see him using it as a comfort item, as sick as it may be (considering its past), and that the constant twirling and flipping is a way for him to stim.
He loves 50s/60s music. Namely the likes of Elvis Presley, Frank Sinatra, Sam Cooke, Lesley Gore, Dean Martin, Roy Orbinson...
He sings! I know this is kind of canon, but that MF can sing. His Harvey voice is smooth and articulate, very vintage, meanwhile Two-Face's is, of course, raspier and almost more of a rocker's voice.
Two-Face names his guns. I've drawn some of these before, but Harvey doesn't bother with such nonsense. Harvey views weapons as a last resort; their mere existence throws justice into question. Why can someone wield such a thing that sets the odds in their favour immediately? But Two-Face knows they get the job done quickly. They're like the broom of Gotham; a quick way to be rid of the scum. So he names them, for they are beloved, much like how legendary weapons have been named in the past for what they have slain.
He dissociates/has derealization episodes. Yes, he has DID, and dissociation is in the name, but during really intense symptoms, such as his depression, paranoia and personalities all practically screaming in his head, he ends up having a bad derealization episode, much like how you would see someone have after they suffer a panic attack. His coin helps ground him.
He has definitely done that fucking pottery scene from Ghost with Gilda while she's sculpting. You know the one.
He's an elegant shooter but a brutish fighter. Not only is he a God with guns, he's also precise and elegant. But with physical combat? Brutal, much like a street fighter. I suppose both Batman and Deathstroke's training gets muddled in some ways...
His henchmen give him gifts now and then. They just do, and he doesn't understand it. Silly stuff, like bi-coloured mugs or shirts. Perhaps to keep his short-temperedness at some sort of bay. Doesn't work half the time, however.
He takes depression naps. Because of course he does. Having mental health issues is also physically taxing. I imagine he sleeps a lot, but also struggles to sleep at the same time because everything is so damn loud in his head.
He's bisexual. Gotta love both. Harvey has a preference for women, Two-Face has a preference for men.
Fussy with his suits and clothes. In The Judas Coin, we see Harvey's kind of a suit-nerd. Enough said. That MF loves to look good. Harvey loves stuff that's timeless and classic, very reminiscent of 40s/50s mafia wear, while Two-Face loves gaudy, striking stuff. They have to compromise, hence the split suits in the first place.
He doesn't like himself very much but just puts up with it. He's a walking contradiction, a hypocrite to himself. He claims to uphold the law but also bastardizes it. Also, he avoids mirrors and reflections if possible (that was something that was mentioned in his older issues, but they never brought it back, I don't think). He's smashed a mirror before, or two, or three.
He's a hopeless romantic. I've talked a little about this before, but he crushes hard, falls harder, and ever since being widowed, he pines for validation but seldom receives such because of his reputation.
He's a vintage lighter collector. He's got those S.T. Duponts and those 1970 electric Ronson's, I just know it.
Harvey constantly makes courtroom puns. Nobody laughs except Gilda.
He's an embarrassing dancer. He loves singing older tunes, but when it comes to dancing, he loves those cheesy 80 tunes. Get him drunk enough and he'll kill the dancefloor... with second-hand embarrassment.
So, I also have a lot of thoughts about The Judge too, but they're very scattershot and I'd rather compile them at another time, plus this post doesn't need to be any longer than what it is, lmao.
I also have more HCs around what he'd be like with the Batkids and Bruce, but again, this post is already long.
Ok, suggestive stuff now, and I'm going to kick it off with a hot take:
Harvey and Two-Face are monogamous. A really popular HC I've seen for Harvey is that he loves having multiple partners - two partners, of course, for each side of him. Well... I DISAGREE. /lh Personally, I think he prefers the one. He likes to purely focus on that one person and treat them like they're the only person that exists, in hope they'll do the same for him. To make him feel like he's whole; that, for once, he's not split.
Two-Face is protective and jealous. If you're out with him and he sees someone eyeing you up, out come the knuckle dusters.
He's dominant. And rough. But he'll always ask what you want; do you want to be praised or degraded while he's using you?
The coin can be fun. Sometimes he gets extremely impassioned and heated, and he just doesn't know what to do with his partner next. Good thing he has an item that helps him decide. The ambiguity of which side will turn up can add to the excitement!
Scar worship makes him melt. It just does. He hates that side of him, but seeing someone stroke or caress his scars, telling him how handsome he looks, that's a sure-fire way to send him over the edge. He'll probably fall in love.
Harvey shows love through words and actions, Two-Face shows it through gifts. Harvey will reassure his partner through words and keeping those words upheld. Meanwhile, Two-Face will corrupt his partners with gifts.
Two-Face is a bit clingy. He'll text a lot, call a lot, ask where his partner is, how they are, if they're ok. Harvey is more relaxed.
Aftercare King. He knows how strong he is and how violent (for lack of a better word) he can be. So he'll always check in with his partner to make sure they're fine.
Harvey is vocal and sappy, Two-Face isn't. Not just during the act, but afterwards. Harvey will want to cuddle, he'll want to talk over a cigarette, he wants to get to know his partner on a deeper level. Two-Face generally needs some room first. He might be a bit cold, but he'll come around.
Again, I have more in this regard, but that's what AO3 is for!
Oh, also, I saw your ask about Gerard Butler and his doggo... I agree, hehe, maybe Harvey can walk Dick's dog at some point, lol.
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briggsyxtorbek · 2 months ago
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Episode 33
“But you lied to his person,” Twig said
“We didn’t lie,” Godeon said “we didn’t lie. We just didn’t tell her and maybe said some stuff that wasn’t true. We didn’t specifically lie to her”
“Exactly,” Kremmy said, slapping a hand on Gideon's shoulder “what Gid said” 
“Wait, wait,” Twig said, “you said I’m sure he’s out there somewhere waiting for you. That’s a lie isn’t it?” 
“I’m pretty sure that’s the case” Gideon chuckled “he’s still there”
“From a certain point of view,” Gricko chimed in
“He ain’t goin’ anywhere! She takes a right instead of a left out in the swamp out there she’s gonna find him” 
“Hold on! So if Torbek, over the course of this magical adventure, drops dead and you all just push torbeks body behind some trees are you gonna not tell Briggsy?" 
"Does Clementine speak-" It took Kremy a minute to realize that the bugbear said a different name "wait, what'd you just say?"
"Are you gonna tell Briggsy if Torbek drops dead?" Torbek asked, getting a bit huffy
"Who the fuck in Briggsy?" Kremy asked 
"Torbek's boyfriend" 
"Boyfriend?" Gideon asked, "what happened to Clementine?" 
"Torbek hasn't seen Clementine in five years" 
"When's the last time you saw this Briggsy guy then?" Gideon asked 
"Torbek saw Briggsy last Yuletide"
"Wouldn't you have still been locked up during Yuletide?" Gricko asked 
"Yeah, but it's some kind of magic that transports Torbek to the Winter Court with his friends" 
Everyone looked at each other, concerned about the implications that could come with this statement. Frost knew it would make sense for Torbek to disassociate while he was being experimented on, but believing he had a boyfriend couldn't be good for his already fragile mental state.
"W-well," Kremy said, looking at Gideon for some kind of back up "I might consider it"
"We'd have to find 'im first," Gricko said
"He's in Druskenwald," Torbek said, "he told Torbek he and his friends are fighting witches so he can get his curse broken" 
"I've heard of Druskenwald before," Twig said 
"What's it like?" Torbek asked 
"I have no idea" Twig shrugged "I've just heard of it before. What's your boyfriend like?"
"Briggsy's great! He's always so nice to Torbek and he doesn't run away at the sound of Torbeks voice or smell"
"Well he sounds amazing," Gricko said "I am so happy you were able to find someone who made you as happy as Clementine did"
"What do you guys do together?" Frost asked
"Well," Torbek started "after we freed the Winter Queen we spend a lot of time going town to town to meet people so we don't get a lot of time alone but he gave Torbek a bit of his coat so Torbek could keep a piece of him year-round" he pulled a piece of red fabric out of his pocket
Frost had to clench his jaw to keep himself from gagging at the scent of decay that lingered on it after he leaned into investigate; only solidifying his theory. 
“Um, Gideon” Twig started walking over to the genasi “if I ever died and Pigtunia came to you and said where’s Twig, would you lie to Pigtunia?” 
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Episode 35
"What's the plan?" Frost asked, watching as Pigtunia pawed at the house she'd lead them too
"This is it boys" Gideon said, cracking his knuckles
"We just kick the door in? Go in shootin'?"
"YES!" Torbek almost yelled
"Fellas." Kremy started a look of panic in his eyes "was, was that a crossroads? Oh Gods oh no! What's happenin'?"
They all watched in horror as Kremys body started shifting, his green scales turning gray as they started to rot, his top hat shifted into a large pirates hat and his suit jacket turned into a pirates coat, and his snout narrowed as he shrunk a couple inches in height but grew a couple feet in width. A black and white undead crocodile now standing before them.
"AH!" Gricko shouted "ah, wha Kremy what happened to you?
"Kremy are you alright?" Frost asked "you look similar but different. Very similar but different"
"Fuck, is this the Beezleberry waffles?" Gideon asked
"Briggsy?" Torbek asked softly, unsure if he was still hallucinating from the mushroom spores
At the sound of the bug bears voice, all of the color popped back into the pirate and he dropped the cigaret he'd been holding.
"Torbek?" Briggsy asked looking around
"Briggsy!" Torbek exclaimed, rushing forward into his boyfriends embrace
"Hey there, love bug" Briggsy said, his voice muffled as he was nuzzling his snout into his boyfriends neck
"H-how, how'd you get here?"
"No idea"
At this point the bugbear and undead pirate had sat themselves on the ground, Briggsy having pulled his boyfriend into his lap, assumedly so they could share a kiss or at least attempted to kiss since Briggsy didn't have lips. They were all surprised when they heard Torbek purring, none of them knew he could do that or really what they should be doing in this situation.
"As happy as I am that you two have been reunited" Frost said after giving them about five minuets to enjoy the others presance "Twig's still missing"
"Oh right!" Torbek exclaimed "Gideon hurry punch the door down!"
Inside the building was a giant toad that was tied to a post, it looked uncomfortable as a pair of webbed fingers pushed their way out of its mouth; until it regurgitated the bullywug it had just swallowed.
"God damnit, I hate when you do that to me!" The bullywug grumbled to himself "we are not playing swallow the guard anymore" he noticed the carnival crew's presence "hey what're you doin' here?"
He pointed at Gricko accusedly before letting him know he had something for the goblin, asking them to watch the toad for about ten minuets so he could get the package, warning them not get to close. Gricko, however, did not listen to the warning and walked up to the toad so he could rub it's belly, only to be swallowed whole.
"Gricko" Gideon yelled, reaching out to grab his friend only for a weird sound to came out of his throat
"Gricko I will-" Frost couldn't finish his sentence as he banged his foot into something "AH! My fucking toe"
Briggsy scanned the room, looking for anything that could be holding Torbeks friend in; the bullywug was saying something to him, but he didn't really care what it was he just knew the only reason they were brought here because the pig was hungry.
"What're we gonna do?" Torbek asked, his brows furrowed "is he gonna suffocate?"
"I think I 'ave an idea" Briggsy said
"What is it Briggsy?" Torbek asked
"Please," Frost started "what is your suggestion?"
"I requires a bit of finesse and by that I mean voodoo gun!" Briggsy pulled out his gun and shot the toad
"Briggsy!" Torbek scolded "was that necessary?"
"Well," Briggsy started as Gricko's head popped out of the wrong end of the amphibian "he was probably gonna suffocate"
“Briggsy I trusted you and you killed the kings mount” Frost said, watching Gideon yank the goblin out of the toad
“What the hell happened to Blunk?” The stable guy asked
Frost, Gideon, and Gricko all came up with excuses as to how the toad had died.
“I told you not to get close to him!”
Despite how frustrated he was the bullywug gave Gricko his tiny package and immediately started gushing over Snail Number Two before taking them outside so he could put the saddle on him and they could all follow Pigtunia to Twig. Everyone climbing aboard the snail, except for Torbek and Briggsy, who both decided to walk, holding hands as they talked to one another.
“I think this’s the happiest I’ve ever seen Torbek” Frost whispered, watching as Briggsy kissed the back of Torbeks hand
"Yeah," Gricko said "I almost don't want Kremy to come back"
"Hey!" Gideon exclaimed, reaching around Frost so he could punch the goblin in the arm
"What? I said almost!" Gricko said, rubbing where he'd been hit "of course I want Kremy to come back, but look at them"
"I know" Gideon sighed "but we need Kremy"
Torbek almost didn't notice when Pigtunia stopped or that the others were dismounting from Snail Number Two, until Briggsy pulled him closer to himself so Gricko didn't hit him in his failed attempt to get down from his snail. Gideon was able to kick open the door with no issue at all and once they entered the building Briggsy pulled Torbek behind him, fully ready to protect him but before anything happened, what ever magic had brought him here had worn off and Kremy was back.
"Aw," Torbek whined, feeling conflicted because he was glad Mr. Kremy was back but he still wanted his boyfriend to be here
"Hey, Kremy" Gricko said "you missed Briggsy"
"What?" Kremy asked
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sonicasura · 2 years ago
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Sky (Skyward Sword Link) is practically a demon magnet in my opinion. Why? Well, Demise was the Demon King which is a kind of role that you don't sneeze at. Demonic hierarchy is something taken very seriously especially when it concerns the king.
You do know what happens when a ruler in power is slain right? Absolute chaos as everyone scrambles to reclaim balance whether it be power or order. One such example is the City At War episodes of TMNT 2003. By taking out the Shredder, who also controlled the Purple Dragons, various gangs try to take his place as it left a huge power vacuum.
This put everyone living in New York City in the hot seat especially the SLAYER(S) aka the Turtles and Co. Crime kept running rampant until Karai seized control as leader of the Purple Dragons for everything to deescalate. By killing Demise, Link put a huge target on his head for every demon to gun down cause I imagine the Demon Realm isn't gonna be stable after that.
His soul definitely could've been marked with a special signature that only the supernatural or those highly adept in magic could detect. I'm also not forgetting a potential flare alerting every devil kin about Demise's fall. Signs or changes that can only happen under these circumstances.
Now their reasons to seek out Sky is like a mixed bag. It can mean good or very bad depending on the motives and party in question. Some demons/devils could seek to serve him as he took out their former master.
Eternal servitude, whether it be by magic or tradition, is a thing in both literature and myth. Some devils might even drag Link down to take Demise's place as Demon King. Power is often viewed above all standards as challenges for the throne often happen in certain cultures or societies.
Sky slayed Demise in one on one combat. It wasn't a group effort like in the original heroes who sealed the Demon King away. He still qualifies and desperate people will go to extreme lengths just to restore natural order. A power vacuum can cripple an entire civilization. If stopping it means a Skyloftian takes the throne then so be it as Link is the only one to prove his strength.
The other reason demons would seek him is either to kill or control him. Link's the only person who was able to slay Demise. An act that can spur vengeance from the fallen Demon King's loyal followers. Some would kill Sky just to gain right to the throne as he now stands in their way.
Manipulation is on the table as some demons will think the hero possesses something no one else has. A possible advantage against all their enemies if they play their cards right. Demons could try to make Link a puppet king or use him for their own goals. After all, the reach of the Demon King must be immense.
Whatever way you put it, the first incarnation of the Chosen Hero is now demon bait. Link better hope there isn't any viable portals between his realm and the demon realm cause oh boy. Creating a settlement on the surface just got a whole lot harder.
For anyone in the Linked Universe fandom, demon attacks will definitely become a thing. Who knows what era has active connections to the demon realm nor how strong each can potentially be. Sky's marked soul will still be on the radar unless it's hidden.
Although he and Hyrule can now bond over being curse buddies. Even if the reasons why they are being hunted down for is different. The Fierce Deity would immediately detect Sky's marked status and the Skyloftian might have to spill the beans right there.
I don't think even a deity like Fierce will have tact when it comes to a serious issue such as this. That's my opinion anyway. Until next time folks, I'll see you back at Skyloft.
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petrichoraline · 8 months ago
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We Are Ep.2 thoughts in chronological order
what peem did in the car trying to convince phum to part their ways is what the youth calls ✨a yap sesh✨ (he tried ig) (this is what this post is as well)
we're probably never seeing phum use those things he bought ever, he'll just keep hanging around in his engineer shirt
peem has so many ppl ready to square up for him including his auntie and he is recognised by tan as someone who loves his friends very much (which makes the fact tan has sold him away for time with his crush TWICE even worse lmao)
i don't really get phum's insistence on not telling anyone about being phum's "slave", not even tan who got him into the mess or his best friend but it's just his ego ig (aside from plot reasons)
i find pun more relatable now - tags along for the funsies and gets happy around fire
not convinced the beans and pork scene wasn't an ad but im not sure how cause i didn't clock any labels
the scene where peem brings in food and laughs with q feels like improv or breaking left in lol
fai missing cause of upset stomach might be some sort of foreshadowing and i'm a bit worried bout her
the professor is handsome <3 and could pas off as chimon's sibling in a show
q absorbing those noodles was very satisfying idek why lol
peem and q's friendship is in the background but the show still constantly makes it a point that they are really good and loyal best friends
i thought "oh theyre gonna make the sharing food a thing in the future" so when boys showed up i was like "ah, we're doing it immediately? bit boring" but then he didn't share!! joey never shares food!! i think he will in the future though, him being a foodie is a constant thing so i'm guessing we're using it as a sign of compromise in the name of love or smth
satang playing this type of character felt a bit much in the first episode but i think he's getting more comfortable with the role as the show progresses and it look more natural; i'm glad his character isn't the googly eyed mentee and he actually teases a lot and snaps back but knows when to stop playing because q isn't the most patient person. (matt having to jump in like "bro he's serious" was so funny cause i hadn't clocked that either hahah)
the way we can see q flustered at certain points but seemingly unbothered at others is fun because his reactions aren't entirely predictable at this stage as we're still getting to know him. also it's mad cute when he clearly doesn't know what to do with himself
idk how he hasn't asked toey bout why he's in art yet, ig they're just now starting to properly get to know each other
toey took one look at q's back and decided "that's a cool ass aura to base my entire future around!" and tbh that's very young adult of him
q regularly asking about peem's work being submitted, he's honestyly worried <3
the way i cheered for peem burping in phum's face and then went "oh he came back :(" bahah
phum is definitely already planning his day and schedule around peem, i don't think he'd ever tell his friends because he wants to actually keep it going so one of the reasons is to not run into his faculty friends including tan and the second is to have lunch with his unconscious crush AND I AM VERY HAPPY WITH THIS STUPIDITY
thought peem could overhear the convo behind the car and realise what he was exchanged for but nope, he just dipped; i think that might be a plot point for later
phum not knowing tan has a crush on fang is so weird cause he genuinely acted like he knew while taunting tan, i don't have an explanation for that
fang is their p'!! i was so conviced he was the little brother, ig because of his big round eyes and the way phum acted all protective (that just makes phum cuter tbh)
what is the age difference between bar owner and prof cause i ship it
it took me a bit to realise the nongs were there instead of the full arts gang and i was glad to see toey and q together (also the green sweater is beautiful on toey, hope it makes a comeback)
i was ready to believe fang had some sort of falling out with tan with the way he treated him but tan beaming and enjoying a dreadful setting (no talking, awkward sitting around in a bar with mid music and alcohol) shows that man is glowing just from being in fang's presence (i hope he reaches ridiculous levels of lame for him)
i was screeching when i realised where things were going with wasted peem and seeing him n the bench outside had me exctaticcc (ofc he didnt book a taxi. and ofc they cant just order one for him noww could they)
phum cockblocks but he kinda has to cause there's no reason for fang to be there otherwise; once the ridiculous proposition of him taking peem home comes up he doesn't really fight it at all - he wants to be with peem, sure, but i think he's also pretty okay with tan and fang being a thing
the way i was screaming "just buy the flowers rich boy!!! he wants to go home" and then the kid went to get more lol
ofc he couldnt just leave the flowers in the backseat, peem just has to have them in his lap.. and the seatbelt scene was so predictable but it's too much of a classic with all "figuring things out" parts of a romance that i can't complain
it makes absolutely zero sense aside from people liking people (cause fang knows what he's doing too) that phum would drive peem to his house - a place where tan has sleepovers at all the time and phum hasn't been to before. fang is his brother and they can sleep at the same place as well even if they don't live together but nope. also THAT CAR HAS EMPTY BACKSEATS, if phum wanted to he would've forced them to ride with him to keep an eye on tan
fang is probably planning to launch a big revenge attack on peem and that'd be so funny, those four can get way too entangled, i could get DRAMA out of their plans and schemes (this show is more hidden agenda than hidden agenda was)
tan's energy with fang reminds me of the duracell bunny lmao it's late at night and they've had a few drinks but his mind and body are all focusedon wooing fang (who is playing nonchalant but has probably had a crush on tan as well)
also no way he was just gonna leave tan on the street lol
toey and q aleady work so well together, toey knows his effect on q more or less and q doesn't shy away from being at least a bit vulnerable as of rn; i think they can be one of the best if not the best couple if they have a proper storyline; im certainly enjoying it the more than i thought i would
the fake blush on both toey and peem is ridiculous esp up close but ig they're cartoonishly drnk anyways
auntie took note and now doesn't do facemasks at night, otherwise it would've been an amazing first meeting
"he likes to whine" and she's the one who can't leave the room from complaining sm lol auntie is so cute
ahh, the mandatory "a look around the room shows me you're truly passionate about what you do and you're deeper than i thought" scene..thankfully he didn't mutter "you like painting this much, huh" to nobody cause i was ready to yell HES AN ARTS MAJOR like he kicked you in the balls for a reason doofus
theyre giving us so many closeups of these two and i keep thinking "this is so drama/y im embarrassed" but i have no shame, if it's fun it's fun (and it's pondphuwin, youre not gonna hear me complain about looking at pond's face for too long or from too close)
reaching out to touch his face was a bold choice thoughh i lost it
man down badd man down baddd he was called an asshole and started gleaming like a light bulb
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alpinefrsh · 10 months ago
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So do the turtles just assume that the world Tommy came from is another version of normal modern day earth? I mean I think Tommy’s dropped enough information about the SMP that it’s pretty clear by now that his world is definitely a completely different universe than the one the turtles know, not having things like malls and money makes a very big difference. Not mentioning the diamonds. But I can kinda imagine the turtles subconsciously thinking Tommy was a normal human teenager who did stuff like go to high school and go to concerts or whatever they think human teenagers do, and then Tommy does or says something particularly weird and they suddenly remember he’s not just quirky, he’s literally from another dimension.
Personally I think Raph is the type to just constantly forget and is just thrown through a loop on the regular with Tom xD! Mikey’s def gonna be thinking about Tommy’s otherworldly habits a LOT more now after the last fic, I’m actually surprised Donnie isn’t already always thinking about it too lol. Leo’s all diligent and stuff as the leader so I don’t think he’s ever gonna really forget for more than a couple hours at most, especially bc he has that golden information of Tommy’s past deaths. Ohoho, the day Mikey finds out Tommy died in that war he may or may not have been apart of!! Not to mention twice, and all the other wars! God, the angst potential with these two worlds combined!!
Have a good day/night! <3
They definitely assumed that was the case at first, but yeah, as you said, they've gathered more than enough hints to know otherwise at this point.
Okay, to be fair, I'm pretty sure the only turtle with an interest in school is Donnie lol. But, oh my god, imagine him saying something like "Man, if only I had a water bucket, I could totally clutch this." While standing at the edge of a way too tall building to be safely jumping off of, even for animated turtle standards.
And the just, "I'm sorry, what? Please clarify what you mean by 'clutch this.'"
Like, boy, please, a bucket of water will not save you from the pull of gravity.
Ha, Raph asking Tommy about some human thing he heard April mention and getting either complete confusion or a wildly absurd response from Tom.
Oh, Mikey is going to overthink so many things Tommy does or says now that he's pretty sure he engaged in literal warfare at some point.
Donnie was pretty reluctant to engage with Tommy at all unless it was to exchange barbs in the beginning, but now that he's finally accepting him as part of the household, Donnie's definitely going to start taking note of a few things, especially with reviewing audio recordings (because, as seen in the Clothes Don't Make the Turtle episode, Donnie records everything). Nothing too crazy, just enough for him to put a few things together. That being said, he did already put Tommy through a light interrogation about his old world, so he's very aware of things like the weird block gravity and redstone at this point (even if Tommy definitely didn't explain that last one in any kind of detail thanks to not knowing much about it himself)
Oh yeah, Leo's got tons of information at this point, Tommy's let all sorts of stuff slip around him. And yeah, he doesn't really let that stuff go or shrug it off.
And not only that Tommy died three times- but that every death was at the hands of a certain masked fellow.
Ah, if only they would think to bring their puzzle pieces of information together, the turtles would probably be able to put together so much of his backstory at this point.
Oh well, they'll figure it out eventually, whether Tommy wants them to or not :D 👍
Thank you, hope you have a good day/night as well! <3
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khiphop-discussions · 2 months ago
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RAP:Public Ep.1 Thoughts
I like the idea of the masks to conceal identity. This is similar to Hip Hop Tribe 2 where the auditions were blind until after a certain point in the performance. Also, having the rappers judge is a good idea.
Spoilers below this point
I knew Khan just off the voice lol but then his hoodie fell off and exposed his hair.
It was Gamma. I'm not too familiar with him so I'm not shocked I didn't recognize the voice.
I can tell just by all the promo on ig, including in-person events, and the clips of Khan at the beginning of the episode that he's gonna be a major player in this season.
2nd battle: 1 vs 31 Omg I don't recognize the voice (1) but it feels like a native english speaker. Is 31 kitsyoji? Or mckdaddy? O'domar, yeah I NEVER WOULD HAVE GOTTEN THAT ONE! Oh but 1 is kaogaii so it wasn't a native english speaker but was someone friends with kitsyoji and mckdaddy lol. Kaogaii did good
3rd: Noh Yunha (10) vs (28). I think from the hair #28 might be Mackidd. Oh no, I think from the voice it's Sky Minhyuk. If so, he's improved a lot from smtm9. Could still use more work but has nonetheless improved. Oh I got it RIGHT! Yunha trying to get that red bull endorsement lol
4th: This is polodared, can tell by size (50) and "the turn off the beat thing" lol vs (30) yang kyle the winner of rapcup (didnt watch the show so I don't know anything about him)
5th: Haon? Nah it was Marv
From here they show a lot of rappers but no battles.
Moon came on the show?!? That's unexpected
Next battle (7th of the episode): 13 (seems like a native english speaker, no clue) vs 51 (no clue) until the MOMENT he started rapping! Fleeky Bang OBVIOUSLY! His style/voice is SO obvious! Still no clue who 13 is I don't think I've ever heard of him. 13 won by being entertaining. It's hardnto out-entertain Fleeky so damn, that's crazy. 13 is Double Down. Never heard of him until now. But he's cool with foggyatthebottom so I'm sure Chillin Homie and some others from the khiphop scene know or have heard about him.
8th: 4 vs 33. I have no guesses for who either one is. Number 4 just said "Bitch" at the end after messing up so bad lol. 4 is goldbuuda. Xwally. They showed VIIN in this episode too. So I'm interested in seeing how far they go.
9th: 40 vs I think Since? (29) vs 40 is Geegooin! Im sure of it! Lol both so recognizable. Except to Yunha I guess. He didn't recognize Since. The vote was 56 to 2. I think the split was a bit unfair. Geegooin did do really well but I guess Since was so impactful.
Here's another montage of people without showing their battle:
Boi B is also here. Mckdaddy was here (I wonder if I would have guessed him right this time if they showed his whole battle from the beginning?). Reddy. Jo Gwangil.
9th: 39 vs 8. I don't know who 39 is but maybe Olltii? Or is he still in the military? I don't think it's him? Something about him reminds me of Olltii though. 8? It seems like a lot of the rappers know who he is just based on mannerisms and voice but I can't figure it out. I think 8 won but both did good. Let's see how the rappers vote. 39 was osun. I'm not very familiar with him. I've only heard him on the "GWTM (remix)" so I am excited to see more of him on this show. 8 was Haon. Ok, now I feel like Yunha with Since lol. How did I not realize it was him. I don't listen to Haon that often so I guess it makes sense lol.
Damn, Haon seems so different now compared to HSR2 from the energy he's showing. Obviously he's way older and has more experiences and responsibilities. So it makes sense.
10 th: 45 (no clue) vs 34 (no clue) Based on his style, it seems like if I listened to him often I'd definitely know who it was. So I suspect I don't know this artist. Same with 45 due to the nails and the rap style. 34 wins. Wait, 45 is cocona? Like the kpop girl from xg(?)? She pretended to not be good or something? Wait they didn't mention it so I think she just has the same name. Zene tha Zilla was 34. I don't listen to him often lol
11th: 14 is Don Mills cause everyone already recognized him so they revealed him like they did with Yunha. He's facing 11. I can't tell who he is off mannerisms or hair so I'll wait until he speaks. Nope can't tell. He's speaking Spanish(?) Is it the guy from AP Alchemy? Why can't i remember the name? Vapo? or was it the other one (edited after the battle: I was thinking Chu Seo jun as the "other one" but Vapo was the correct one who speaks Portuguese, not Spanish lol)? Either way, 11 won so we'll see right now. Nah, it was Daniel Jikal. Not familiar with him
12: 23 vs 27 not sure. i think I head some okashii members would come on. I'm not very familiar with them (only heard a few things earlier this year or last year) so could this be them? Well 27, says he doesn't know 23 but it could be an act. Both acted pretty aggressive (27 saying "That shit is weak" to 23s rap. Then 23, touching 27. 23 was Mason Home so I was right about okashii but only based on luck (randomly remembering that I saw rumors that okashii members were coming on the show). 27 was shyboiitobii...i don't think I've ever seen his face. Omg hes cute af 😍😍...🤣🤣🤣. Looks like he gets in some drama later on in the season.
13: 32 (Owen). I didn't guess it. I was too busy writing about 12 lol
14: 46 (not sure) vs ?? He did sound familiar but I remember thinking "He sounds like Justhis somehow but I know it's not him" lol That should've been the giveaway. (Edit: the one with a familiar voice/similar to Justhis, was Khundi Panda)
Kaogaii hates being calles a loser lol
15: 41 vs 18: I don't think I'm familiar with either artist. 41 somehow reminds me of Chillin Homie but I know it's not him. Both are really good. 41 wins. 30 to 28. 18 is Luci Gang. I am familiar with her lol I don't listen to her that often. I do like what I've heard of her. Chaboom?!? Obviously, I'm familiar with him but I haven't listened to him since the last smtm season he was on. Maybe 6?
16: 53 vs 54. I'm not sure about 54. But I think 53 is Hash Swan. First based on the height (someone mentioned that 54, a girl, was taller. So that was telling) but then the voice was a DEAD giveaway. Seems like the guys have crushes lol. Hash lost. Hippie Kunda. Yeah, I've never heard of he by name. But I think i have heard of 99 Nasty Kids group she talked about. Only in passing though.
17: 19 vs 48. Oh 19 is obviously Loopy lol. Just like Swan, the voice gives it away IMMEDIATELY! Not sure about 48. Loopy wins 57 to 1. 48 is Punchnello?!? Damn. People are shocked he got beat that badly. Apparently, his score of 1 is the worst vote so far.
Loopy says he hasn't kept in touch with anyone from mkitrain. But him and Owen recognized each other's voice. Loopy almost walked past Owen without any acknowledgement once the masks were off. Owen acknowledged him first. And cried on his shoulder.
18: 25 by himself but wasn't there supposed to be 60? Why does someone not have an opponent? Oh there is another person, 35.
25 sounds familiar but I can't put my finger on it. 35's voice might be too obvious so that's why he won't speak. Honestly, his rap ALSO sounds familiar but I ALSO can't put my finger on it lol. Oh, Busan in the lyrics. Must be J-Tong. I guessed northfacegawd (which doesn't make sense because they sound nothing alike) and then later on he said northfacegawd in the lyrics. The Jtong guess was pure luck because like the okashii one. I remembered I heard rumors that he was on the show once I heard "Busan" in the lyrics.
25 got 3. 35 got 55. 25 was Bizzy so that's why he sounds so familiar.
They don't show 35. They left it as a cliffhanger but I'm certain it was J-Tong.
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ephemeralgalaxies · 2 years ago
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Shadow and Bone s2 spoilers
also some Six of Crows spoilers, so if you've watched s2 but still don't wanna know anything more yet about the crows than what the show has already given us, beware cause this will involve (probable) future spoilers
(once again, Wylan edition (and a lil jesper. but mostly wylan). but this time it's about the soundtrack that plays during a certain scene in episode 4 iykyk) (most of my meta posts will probably be about him. he's a cool character. and he's me but that's beside the point) (me as in ND with tics, sass, and way to much random fact info than is for his own good but sometimes actually proves very useful but not in the way you'd expect. usually in a quite disturbing and confuzzling way)
last warning for spoilers under the cut bc I am absolutely picking apart as many frames as I can
OK OK YES THIS IS ABOUT THE KISS SCENE BUT SPECIFICALLY THE MUSIC THAT PLAYS BEFORE/DURING. Bear with me here, this is gonna be quite the trainwreck as I am running on adrenaline from sleep deprivation and also like two oreos.
To start off, the song for this scene is The Night We Met composed by Joseph Trapanese (spotify link).
Alright, first, the way this song just blends so nicely from the scene with Pekka Rollins in the cemetery to this one just *chef's kiss* (ofc we get quite the gap in soundtrack between the end of that scene and once this song starts playing, but they still arch together pretty well) In fact, I almost thought they were the same, or at least same motif (it tries to be a major key song with lots of accidentals/minor-falls/glissandos to make it more angsty dramatic). Which, shouldn't mean that much from a distance... but oh boi does it make my mind stir.
That song (labeled by Netflix CC as "dramatic music" lmao) surfaces when Pekka Rollins and his crew are scouring the Black Veil Cemetery in search of his son, Alby Rollins. Ofc, he finds him safe and well just as the police(?) take Rollins under arrest for the murders he's just admitted to (holy shit, Kaz works fast). Like, with the beginning of The Night We Met, these are the same songs in different fonts. Which,,, may not be on purpose but is absolutely brilliant anyways bc of how much Alby and his father mirror Wylan and his father (if that mirror had shattered into a web design and had been left to collect dust and mold for decades).
(summary context just in case we do have some ppl reading this that don't know about Wylan's family and want to: his father is Jan Van Eck, a very wealthy merchant from Ketterdam. Like, Pekka Rollins "rules" the Barrel, but Van Eck (and capitalist co) run the country. But he's a shit person and an even more shit father, disowning Wylan on the basis of him not being able to read and therefore "useless as an heir" so,,, Wylan ran away ofc)
So right before this very emotional scene for Wylan, we get Pekka Rollins, absolute dumpster fire trash of a man, be a good father. aND EVEN HAVING THE MUSIC DO A HARSH FADE FROM WHEN ROLLINS NON LONGER CAN SEE HIS SON TO WYLAN ASKING JESPER WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE FREE?
im screaming so much it was perfect
So with that in context, we lead into the scene in Wylan's workshop. It's quiet now, hopeful even. You're already forgetting about abandoned sons and desperate fathers. The world is "full of possibilities." There's no music anymore, just the fizzling and clanging (Wylan, wtf do u have clanging in your workshop???). And the silence stays as Jesper talks about what he'd like to do now that he can roam the Barrel free again. How he'd like to do that... with Wylan.
But Wylan's acting weird. He should be in his element here; laid out, an open book. But he's hiding. No literally, he ducks under the table. And even after he's explained that he's feeling strange bc he was so sure Jesper wouldn't want anything more with him, there's silence. It's only when Jesper starts to back away, when he seems hurt by the idea that Wylan doesn't think Jesper would like him, that the music picks up. And I love this so much because throughout this entire scene, Wylan is interacting with the music. As if he can hear it. Jesper floats along it, fitting everything so perfect within pauses, but Wylan actually feels it. Like each little violin arco pull or harp chord is another thought in his head.
So here: the music starts. Just gentle harp for now (I think that's a harp. Or something of the variety. I'm gonna be so embarrased if it's just like an acoustic guitar or smth). And Jesper backs up, hurt, and Wylan realizes oh shit wait this actually means something to him, I've just hurt him, I have to fix this. I need to clarify. Let him know it's not like I wanted to leave, but "better to cut my losses." (and my god I love Jack Wolfe's little "I... huuuuuh" that he gives like I love it so much it's so awkward and accurate like Wylan has so much he wants to say but can't figure out how to actually get it out right).
And we keep with this pattern, just gentle (almost melancholic) harp chords of one two three four pause... one two three four pause... BUT IT'S A SORT OF ARPEGIO. BC once Jesper says "my reputation isn't entirely unfounded," the camera pans back to Wylan for the next set of notes that reach a little higher, a little different, little more noticeable. And with this frame, we get a nod and a small smile (not reaching his eyes, ofc, Wylan seems to smile as a signal a lot more than in genuine) -- this feels like confirmation to him. He's correct, his assumptions from that night are valid. Someone like Jesper wouldn't want anything more (from someone like him).
Then we stay on Jesper again, how he likes "the gamble of Barrel life" (sobbing for Wylan thinking that Jesper won't like him anymore when he finds out that Wylan isn't "Barrel life" (not really, he thinks. Not like the rest of them). We even get the more overt and dramatic lil "yeah there you go, ofc, I get that" hand motion with another nod and smile before he avoids Jesper's gaze (and the camera) again by walking off to the end of the table. He's put more distance despite being more accessible now; they're not looking across from each other anymore. Jesper has to move to keep engaging.
And he doesn't at first. He lets his eyes follow Wylan, but then drops them again shortly as he thinks on it all. He's losing Wylan here, he knows it. He needs to change this pattern up before Wylan disappears into that quite chord progression entirely. "I may very well have left you first..." Wylan looks up again, smiles and nods, still tinkering away. He's trying to engage the conversation but only as little as possible. He wants this over with, he's got his confirmation. It's all up to Jesper now.
AND OH BOI DOES JESPER TAKE THAT CHANCE.
He starts walking towards him. "But that..."
Wylan stills, looks back at him, shakes his head and looks back down. Like for a moment it was maybe maybe maybe then pushing that hope back down bc that can't be what this is.
"...was before I got to know you." THE "what wtf hold on" ON WYLAN'S FACE IM SCREAMING. THE HARP IS STILL ALONE, HE'S STILL NOT TRUSTING IT. HE'S LISTENING BUT WON'T DARE ENGAGE YET. HE NEEDS MORE.
"I can't make you any promises." VIOLIN!!!!
"Or predict what might happen between us" VIOLINNNN!!!
"But I can tell you that..." quieter violin as Jesper hesitates
Wylan realizing oh shit oh shit oh shit right along with that muddled lower violin arco note mixed with the harp chord. It's not clean like the others. The harp is catching up to the violin.
"I'd like to find out." Another weird chord (forgive me im tired and can't tell if it's an accidental or just a deviation entirely into another key but it sounds like a different key for a sec) with the harp and a beat of silence. Then the violin follows it...
AND WYLAN SMIRKS. LIKE I SWEAR TO GOD THIS WHOLE POST STARTED BC WHEN I FIRST WATCHED THIS SCENE ALL I COULD THINK OF WAS HOW IT LOOKED LIKE WYLAN REACTS TO THAT VIOLIN NOTE AFTER JESPER SAYS HE WANTS TO TRY SOMETHING MORE WITH HIM. He hides his face from Jesper, and it hits him with the arco note. The guy he likes actually likes him back. This incredible, cool, gunslinger that has his back and doesn't care or judge him for his quirks also actually likes him. more than friendship, more than sex, there's another shared thing here. Wylan can be more. But the harp here slows down, a ritardando only it actually feels the effects of bc the violin has already done its job. Jesper is worried now, he's said what he said and all he can do is hand control over to Wylan.
and then ofc my favorite "hey bro pls respond" like after that arco note that seems to be just for Wylan, like it's his own lil secret realization music, Jesper sits in silence (literally, there's only ambient background, no more actual notes) and when Wylan realizes he hasn't actually responded, that Jesper also needs confirmation, dear god he's gonna give it to him.
But the music doesn't start up again once Wylan begins to walk (run. Like he's sprinting into this kiss) to Jesper, it starts again when Jesper realizes what Wylan's doing. That he's responding. And he's responding very positively.
Now the violin is confident, steady, forceful. There's no more of that careful sliding on the bow, this is borderline staccato. And it's joining the harp. THEY'RE PLAYING TOGETHER NOW!!! THEY'VE CAUGHT UP!!!!!!! Like they've literally caught up, the two characters and instruments melting together in a new melody of the same key but with energy and passion and giddy joy. IT'S LIKE FIREWORKS, LIKE A GUNSHOT.
Then the roaring ocean, violin switching from a long-short combo to straight 16th notes fast and ready and dear god I love it. There's still that whisper of the more hesitant violin in the background, but the faster one is taking control of the piece now. It knows what it wants, has a clear direction. And saints, if that doesn't perfectly mirror Wylan in this scene. This music piece is a beautiful conversation not just between the two characters (and respective separate instruments) but also with that haunting past Wylan carries with his confidence. He knows his worth, knows he's useful. He just can't think that others would recognize this as well. A violin is not a gentle instrument (I'm sorry, but there's a reason I chose the cello). It's higher pitches are harsher, sharper. It can be beautiful, yes, but it can never have that subtlety of a cello or viola (at least lower strings of a viola). The violin is the 1st chair, the main melody carrier, the gem of the orchestra. Sure you need the others, but everyone knows the violin. Wylan knows his worth to a sharp, unsubtle point. But he hangs back like a 2nd violin position -- letting someone else take the reigns until he finally has the space (the safety) of exploding (hehe) into sound. He trusts Jesper now. Wylan's gonna play with the force of his bombs now.
At least until Jesper learns about his history. Which, I think might be another reason why we still have that 2nd violin position sound even at the end. He's encouraged, but he knows there's something he's still gotta hide. And it won't be pretty when it all spills out.
TLDR: the music nerd obsesses over the fictional music nerd way more than anyone asked for (which is at all. no one asked for this. why do I keep doing music-based metas. because I love them and can't sleep until I do them that's why). Wylan is a violin apparently but he can't decide whether he's playing along with the cellos/violas or if he's taking the reigns and filling that conductor's right-hand man spot (is it the right side? hold on. wait shit no it's the conductor's left side. whatever. that 1st chair violin thing that's really special but idc bc Im a cellist and my director switches our section arrangements all the time to play with sound). Also apparently Jesper is a harp which does kinda make sense considering it's a pizzicato sound and Jesper is very ticky ticky like most of the soundtrack songs he's in the scenes of have some kind of ticking. so,,,,,,,
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kitkatnerds3 · 1 year ago
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BSD SEASON 5 EP 11 + GENERAL OVERVIEW
HOLY FUCK!
THAT WAS SO COOL!
So many things! So much information! So much angst! So many beautiful visuals! I am going to just be describing so much stuff so be warned.
Ok, let's start from the beginning, you've got Aya throwing herself off the roof, and as I assumed it would, the plan works! The sword is out! And Bram has A FUCKING BODY???!!! WAS NOT EXPECTING THAT PART FOR SOME REASON! HE LOOKS SO LONG! And Aya is safe! Asagiri decided to put his hatred of children to the side for once and let her live!
But while he may have let Aya live he didn't let certain other people live. And so with that flawless segway let's go over to Meursault!
Yeah so FYODOR IS FUCKING DEAD. I am willing to believe he'll come back and will talk about how i think that'll happen on a different post but for right now HOLY SHIT HE'S DEAD!
So the scene starts with him walking outta prison with a gay little walk to meet Nikolai and they do their gay little thing, truly there is nothing more romantic then telling someone you'll kill them. And as Fyodor walks to the helicopter he drops a bit of lore that NO ONE ELSE HAS TALKED ABOUT! he said that Dazai was his first challenge since "him". WHO THE FUCK IS HIM???? The only person i can think of that coupd possibly fit the ridiculous genius role is Shibusawa, and it cant be him! Bones has visuals of Shibu they would've flashed a shot of him if it was him, and also that doesn't make sense character wise. This is Fyodor backstory information!
And speaking of, or at least slightly mentioning Dazai. THE BOI AIN'T DEAD! FYODOR CANT KILL HIM HE'S GONNA BE HERE AT THE END OF THE WORLD ALONG WITH COCKROACHES AND TWINKIES! And guess what else? CHUUYA ISNT A VAMPIRE! AND HE NEVER WAS ONE! BRO WAS ACTING! Tachihara is gonna have to relinquish his medal as best actor because Chuuya was spot on! Chuuya also has the vampire fangs still glued to his teeth from when Mori apparently put them there. Lol.
But back to seriousness, Dazai did a little speech about how Fyodor lost because he doesn't trust anyone and then they kill Fyodor by having the helicopter fly into the wall! Fyodor's last words were also from the Bible and according to what others have said they mean something along the lines of "oh god, oh god, why have you forsaken me", I don't think this line has much to do with lore besides like, religious Bible symbolism, but I have seen people theorize that Fyodor's gonna pull a Jesus and rise from the dead in three days! And seeing as I do think that this isn't the last we'll see of him, that could be true!
But now for the most important part of this section, at the cost of Fyodor's life Fyolai is now 100% canon! Some of the most delicious diversity wins are the ones that feel like losses at the same time. To elaborate more, after Fyodor dies the only part left of him is his arm and so Dazai picks it up and gives it to Nikolai say "Aren't you happy you killed him?" Which... technically he didn't kill him but I guess it sorta counts since it was part of the game, anyways, so Nikolai takes the arm and just cradles it to his chest,, so gently,, and says that Fyodor was the only person to ever understand him and that he is actually very sad now that he's dead, it's said much better in the episode I'm not good at dialog, and he just goes over to the wreckage and holds the severed arm of his one and only friend to his face and it's so sad, so gruesome yet so sweet, how tragic, how them.
Oh, and also Sigma is fucking dead apparently. I don't believe this because a good half of my theories are formed on a 'that wouldn't narratively make sense' basis, and by God would that not make sense narratively! And so I'm certain that Sigma is fine, we'll probably find out more about what actually happens in the manga, maybe he'll be in a coma until they need him to reveal the Fyodor back story, because they WILL be giving a Fyodor back story, he's done too much for his affect on the plot to just end now. I have a theory on how he might come back that I'll write later.
Onto a different topic, it's time for OLD MAN YAOI!
Holy shit the old man yaoi was so genuinely devastating. They cared about eachother so much! They CARE about eachother so much! The flower petals! The LITERALLY INSANE AMOUNT OF FLOWER PETALS!
Ok so, Fukuzawa reveals that he's not dead and was just waiting for the right opportunity to strike, and so he finds it and he goes at Fukuchi, they do a fight Fukuzawa gets the One Order and the nukes are deactivated! But wait, Fukuchi runs at him again, Fukuzawa slashes his sword-! But wait! Fukuchi is... smiling? Fukuzawa is now regretting his swing but it's too late to pull back now and so it slashes through his old friends throat, after he does this Poe's book falls out and they both get sucked in, leading me to be kinda confused because I thought you had to actually read it in order to be sucked in? But whatever it's not important.
So in the book Poe has written a couple scenes from Fukufuku's childhood, I assume Ranpo must have told him about the memories, or maybe him and Fukuzawa did some son and father in law bonding where Fukuzawa told him the stuff. Anyways, now the old Fukufuku are having a conversation as the young Fukufuku are just sword fighting, goofing around and being FRIENDS! AUGH! They used to be such close friends! And just, watching them being happy in the past was truly so sweet and devastating, why oh why did it have to end this way!
Now, along with the sad shit that's happening we're also getting some big lore! It turns out that the reason why Fukuchi was doing all of this was because he had gotten a message from the future that there would be a huge war that kills thousands of people, and that he did this as a sort of sacrifice a few for the many thing. And, another big gay and big lore thing, Fukuchi never actually intended to be the commander of the Army of Mankind, he wanted Fukuzawa to command it because he thought that Fukuzawa was so good he couldn't be corrupted by that amount of power. Holy fuck that was so gay! He is so in love! He cares about and thinks so much of Fukuzawa I wish things could turn out different so badly! Like, Fukuchi still kinda sucks (<- just remembered the whole Jouno situation), but he didn't use to suck and if the situation was different he might not have sucked now! The old man yaoi is so tragic! Fuck!
And so Fukuchi asks Fukuzawa to kill him, and Fukuzawa agrees, but when it finally comes down to it, he can't. Fukuzawa has always cared for the one more then he's cared for the many, and even if it would be for the best he just can't bring himself to kill his best friend. And then comes Teruko with a steel chair stabbing Fukuchi in the back! OK seriously now, Teruko comes in and stabs Fukuchi, it seems that its because he asked her to do so as she is quite upset about it, she hands the sword to Fukuzawa and proceeds to turn away,not wanting to look at them anymore, and Fukuchi crumples into Fukuzawa's arms and he holds him as be takes his final breaths, and as Fukuchi takes his final breath Fukuzawa starts Crying! Like full on screaming ans sobbing! Out of every duo I was not expecting Fukufuku to be the one to get the 'crying as you hold your dead partner in you arms' troup, but I'm not complaining! This was devastating.
One final bit about Fukufuku, it is honestly kinda funny how much Bones clearly adores their relationship. They get all the best animation and a whole new artstyle/coloring pallet just fir their scenes! As we've said before, Bones really like their old man yaoi.
And now we get to everyone else, such as SSKK! The neck bite was fine, it wasn't slow and sensual but I think it made up for it by being kinky as heck! Like, look me in the eyes and tell me that wasn't kinky. Atsushi sure seemed to think it was! Other characters include, Juni and Kunikida! They're awake now! They're alright! And so is Ranpo! Kenji and Tecchou are up! My boys! We unfortunately will not get an angsty Suegiku vampire reunion it seems, but its fine, i guess. (<- it's not fine but whatever, it is what it is, I just hope there is some angst when they do meet up again, didnt Asagiri say he wantedto further exoand their relationship?) And of course the most important characters to show up in the outro, LUCY AND KYOUKA! THE GIRLS ARE HERE! WHERE THE FUCK HAVE THEY BEEN! and where's Yosano??? They just, didn't include her at all where is she????
And finally, the two hour time skip.
WHAT THE FUCK!?!?!?!!!!!!!!!!??!
The airport is on fire?! A floaty gid-lookin guy that looks like Fukuchi is fighting sskk?! AKUTAGAWA HAS A NEW OUTFIT!? My boy got rid of his coat and his Victorian vampire aesthetic and decide to go even further back in time by doing a knights outfit! He has a little eye guard thingy! It's both very stupid and very cool looking and the most important thing is that he's PRETTY! BONES DID IT! THEY FINALLY LET AKU SMILE AND BE PRETTY! THANK FUCK! And when I say they made him pretty I mean they made him Pretty! Bro looked majestic! And Atsushi too! I mean he was wearing the same outfit as always but he looked very nice and!! He smiled at Akutagawa!! He fondly and softly smiled at Akutagawa!!!! Holy shit sskk canon! But also still what the fuck is happening.
Anyways, I have written a lot of stuff and I still have some thought left over, so I might make a second post later, when I'm not supposed to be asleep perhaps.
TLDR; that was a great episode and a very fun end to the series, all of our ships are canon, and i am super excited to see how this will be in manga form! Wow it's weird to be thinking about being excited to see the manga adaptation of the anime instead of the other way around.
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okay so theory time. i think lou is really making it clear that episode 6 is the end of Tommy at the very least as Buck's love interest like the way he's speaking there's finality with that part of the story. Could Tommy come back in a different capacity as a friend for Buck maybe someone buck can confide in about the Eddie of it all sure absolutely. He's basically teasing it when he says I'm not gonna say why I know this is the end, because that would spoil the reason why Buck and Tommy break up and I think the reason why they break up connects to another Lou quote particularly when said if the fandom love Tommy now they'll love him even more by the end of episode 6. So by that I'm theorizing that the reason Buck and Tommy break up is because Tommy is going to realize that Buck and Eddie are in love with each other and he may pull the Buddie trigger to start moving them towards one another. Maybe he'll tell Buck that it was never his attention he was ultimately trying to get that it's always been about one person and he won't say the same but we know who he's talking about and he's like. You have feelings for someone else and you should figure what those feelings are.
Like I think this all connects to the finality Lou is speaking with when it comes to the end of Tommy at the end of episode 6. I think Tommy is the one that's gonna start the true push to Buddie going canon in some way. Very similar to Sam in New Girl when he basically told Jess in a mutual break up that it's always been about Nick it always will be.
The way Lou has spoken all about Buddie as well even when it wasn't asked by the interviewer is also loud, he's saying how he's rooting for them, he loves them together, how he thinks Tommy has clocked something more, how he always calls it a relationship. Like I think he knows this is all leading to Buddie romance imo.
He's just been very very loud with these two interviews.
We could be looking at a one two punch of Tommy leaving in 6 and Marisol leaving in 7, then we get the freaking combo of the guy that wrote episode 4 and JCC the infamous buddie writer for episode 8....like OH BOY.
Lou...as much as I love him, I don't think he really has any idea where they're planning to take his story. I think how long he stays would depend on 1.) fan reaction and 2.) does Tommy stick around push the story forward anymore? I personally think he could, so I'm not taking the speculation around episode 6 being his last as law.
I know it's super exciting right now because bisexual buck felt literally IMPOSSIBLE and then we got it, and then Eddie repression arc seemed impossible, but it looks like they're starting it, so we're all dreaming big, but as much as I am 100% percent certain Buddie is happening, I can't realistically expect it to happen in the next two or three episodes.
If it does, I'll eat my words, but for now, I'm keeping my episode-by-episode expectations realistic.
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poppyseed799 · 2 years ago
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what's the best life series season (if you can call them that?) and why is it 3rd life
/j on that last part I actually want to know what's your favorite
So funny that I was making a poll similar to this as I received it. My poll was about gimmicks tho so I’ll talk about the seasons themselves here.
To be honest: I DON’T KNOW!!! I’m an INCREDIBLY indecisive person. I’ll just talk about the seasons and you can try to pick a favorite for me based on how I talk about them.
3rd Life: a classic, VERY good story. There’s a lot to love about it and so many different POVs with unique stories… but it also suffers in that regard cuz there’s certain people that just didn’t get a lot of attention in 3rd Life and by not watching their POV you aren’t missing much. Poor Joel, who I love very much, suffers most from this in 3rd life. Also I am pretty particular about rules and all the green violence was not great about that BUT I forgive 3rd Life because the story makes up for it! Also it was kinda funny. ICONIC season, I’m SO glad I got hooked by it.
Last Life: I have a lot of fond memories of waking up and first thing I do is pull up YouTube and watch Scar’s episode as my sister watches Tango’s next to me. If Scar hadn’t yet uploaded I’d watch someone else, I’d try not to watch Tango as my sister had that covered. We’d split up POVs and share what happened with each other. I had dreams about Last Life Scar. I loved Last Life Scar so much. I forced everyone to draw him for my bday. I’ve never drawn him. Anyways this is all nostalgia, basically I had an amazing time watching this season and a lot of good stuff was in it! But the ending felt very anticlimactic to me. Not just the last death, I thought that was fine, just the finale in general. It wasn’t horrible but everything before it was so much better that it almost ruined it for me lol. But like I said that’s just cuz everything before it was SO GOOD!!!
Double Life: im gonna be honest people will probably pick this one as my favorite simply because I have NOTHING negative to say about it. It was a great season! I loved it so much, and people being paired made it a lot faster and easier to watch. Double Life Joel is everything to me. Boat Boys win in my heart. These guys actually made me draw fan art for the series can you believe it. There was plenty of poetic tragedy in Double Life, but the poetic tragedy in other seasons hits me harder for some reason. Still love this goofy little season. Oh one negative thing I guess is I miss Martyn watcher lore. But it’s okay.
Limited Life: There’s only four episodes out right now, so I can’t say much. BUT! It’s been incredibly funny so far, much like double life. Also Martyn watcher lore seems to be back WOOO! So far there isn’t really anything that ESPECIALLY has me interested, but I will say that in the latest episode alone there have been so many moments I loved that I considered making a compilation. IN EPISODE 4 ALONE! Can’t wait to see how this ends, it could be totally anticlimactic but it definitely has the potential to be amazing.
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fallen-child-escapism · 2 years ago
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Hello Fragblr. This most likely wont get attention cus no one really cares about fraggle rock at the moment but I HAVE TAKES.
The important question: How old are they?
To me personally, if they were human theyd be college student age. oldest to youngest would be Mokey, Gobo,Red,Boober and Wembley
If i were to translate it to human years, Mokey Gobo and Red would all be 20-25 and Boober and Wembley are 18-20
Sexuality and Pronouns!
Mokey-Lesbian! She/Her but i feel like she'd rock some neos too
Red-Bi,fem leaning, She/Her
Gobo- Queer, He/They (only uses they/them with the five)
Boober and Wembley are both TRANSmasc and GAY
Relationships:
Its a given that SOME of the fraggle five are definitely written a certain way. Its undeniable how some of their actions towards certain others of the group are gonna be read as romantic.
Gobo, isnt dating anyone currently. I get the feeling he wouldnt be SUPER big on being tied down by an official relationship because the guys gotta go go go! At least thats what he tells his friends. In reality, They probably just havent met who keeps them interested.
Mokey and Red are dating! They even live together (canonly!). It caught their friends by surprise at first because they are so different but after "a cave of ones own" ( i think thats the episode name i could be wrong!) the gang was put at ease with their relationship. Overall, theyre a healthy happy sapphic couple and i love them:)
Wembely and Boober are so ridiculously in love. As of now they are officially together but it was a looooong process for them to actually ask each other out. Gobo definitely was a little put off by Wembley expressing his feelings for Boober. Just because he worried Boober's pessimistic attitude would too negatively affect the boy. Typical protective brother stuff. And dont even get me started on how long they went on pining for eachother cause they couldnt bring themselves to confess. Luckily Mokey (and Gobo) helped and they are now happily dating:)
NON romantic Relationships!:
One of these is pretty implied, the other one is total headcanon
Wembley and Gobo are adoptive brothers! I actually have no reasoning for where exactly Wembleys parents are? Any of their parents actually...Anyways! I think that wembley has always been a family friend of some kind, he was just officially adopted into the Gobo-Matt Family the day uncle matt left for outer space, since thats the day wembley moves in with Gobo. But there are some holes in this because when uncle matt comes back in season 2 to visit he doesnt quite remember Wembley. Oh well. Wembley and Gobo are brothers in my heart. <3
Boober and Mokey! Are siblings, adoptive or step, either way. Mokey is the oldest of the 5, Boober is the youngest other than wembley who i dont see as very much younger than him so they were raised together since boober was little little. I feel like in the show Mokey and Boober have the closest sibling relationship. Theyre so cute.
I have more headcanons if you ever wanna hear i might make another post:) toodles
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Hey Bcbdrums! First off, it is a joy to read your posts and content that reflect the translations of certain scenes from the episodes of Kim Possible. You make your points very captivating and shed new light on different perspectives that I never thought of when it comes to something like Kim/Ron.
Now for my question. You may have answered for this episode before and I could have missed it, but why do you think in "Clean Slate", Kim forgot about the fact that her and Ron were actually dating? I understand that mostly 'basic' recollections were restored and not major events, but I would think something significant as her and Ron being together would surface pretty easily despite undergoing amnesia. I also think about the fact that Kim liked Ron for a long time before they got together but she didn't show any "signs" or "signals" when Ron assured repeatedly that they were currently dating. Then again, Kim also didn't remember how to fight for awhile after the incident so MAYBE the most quintessential attributes to Kim's life (includes fighting abilities and Ron) took a little longer to sink in perhaps? What are your thoughts? Thanks!
the external reason, of course, is comedy. it's funny to the viewer to have this be an added issue with her memory loss.
the in-universe reason... i'm gonna make two points here.
the first is, kim's attraction to ron seems less based on the physical and more about the deep trust relationship they have. look at the guys kim is shown to be attracted to in the show... josh mankey, the oh boyz, eric, and she hints to ron and is interrupted before officially saying she likes a "bad boy." none of these are outwardly ron. which, honestly, i think speaks well to the depth and realness of their relationship. they are friends first, and nothing about them is superficial or fleeting.
the second point i'll make is, no one in her life helped kim remember this. you'd think that her parents of all people would have told her she has a boyfriend. they told her ron is her best friend, but why did they leave out boyfriend? in all those home movies james and ann played for her, ron surely had to show up... but in the clips we the viewer see, he wasn't there... and then no one else in kim's life would support telling her that she and ron are together. which begs the question...do her friends and fam not want them to be a couple? i suppose one might make the argument that they fear ron won't be an equal life partner, that kim would be bringing home the bacon while ron eats it and plays videogames. but anyone who dies on that hill doesn't know ron well enough...
as to kim not immediately believing it? well, she genuinely didn't remember. and ron isn't the physical type she leans toward for the fleeting attraction, as i mentioned above. if ron looked like josh, she'd have probably been all in. but i can't judge kim too harshly for that. we all have a "type" and she's just a teen, and when she did remember she jumped to the big L-word. although that could have been more convincing too... but that's a different question.
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4, 13, and 20 from the MH list thing...
ok boos im gonna start with 13/20 because i have some THOUGHTS on 4.
13: How do you feel about the live action movies?
-they're giving old disney channel movies. they arent GOOD by any means, theyre actually really really bad. but for what its worth i liked sitting through the first one just because i could point out certain things and go "that's bad". the second one was mindnumbingly boring though.-
20: Random character headcanon!
-Ahem. Frankie makes tiny dolls of their friends and sews them tiny clothes. They have all of the dolls on their desk. Draculaura has nails with red bottoms. Clawdeen teaches the boo crew about different human holidays and they all celebrate in their own little monster ways. Lagoona is CRACKED at pumpkin carving. oh and deuce is bisexual. -
4: Are there any aspects of G3 that you dislike?
-Hoo BOY this is about to get long. You can opt out now if you don't wanna read my super long winded thoughts. But if you do, keep reading.
I have 2 major grievances with G3. First is the overall sanitization of EVERYTHING. (I'm mostly talking about the cartoon here, the movies do this surprisingly well.) One of the reasons I liked G1 so much is that it actually tackled real-world problems. Bullying, racism, sexism, unhealthy family dynamics. And it had actual villains like Valentine, Nefera, Whisp, etc etc. G3 has a horrendous lack of both.
So far in the G3 cartoon, the biggest conflict we've had is Draculaura coming clean about witchcraft, which is an allegory for coming out of the closet. And that is a super important issue and coming out of the closet is a huge deal to a lot of people. But the conflict with Dracula is resolved in exactly one episode, and the only other person who isn't cool with it is Toralei. But A: Toralei doesn't count as a villain because none of her actions have genuine lasting consequences and she isn't an actual threat + she gets a mini redemption arc and B: she also comes to accept the witchcraft in that same episode.
Another aspect of this, and who I believe are the biggest offenders of the sanitization of MH G3, is the recharacterization of Nefera and Manny. Sure, seeing Nef be nice to Cleo is great. Seeing Manny as this shy nerd kid is great. But I liked the dynamic a lot better in G1. Most of Cleo's problems and character development came from her troubles with her father and sister, and both of those are absent in G3, which leads to Cleo being a very static character with no real character progression outside of her romance with Frankie. Same with Manny. The only real "bully" character is Toralei, and like I said, she got a mini-redemption. There's no Gory Fangtell, no mean girl Toralei Stripe who actively goes out of her way to sabotage the ghouls in actually meaningful ways, and there's no Manny Taur. I liked Manny being somewhat of a bully in G1 since it introduced people to that idea. Monster High is all about being unique, but there's still bad eggs in the mix. I still like G3, but I feel like it needs to incorporate more story beats from G1. The show execs could definitely do a better job at introducing these things like bad parents, bad siblings, and bullies to prep kids for the real world, because things like that and worse exist. And shielding kids from it does more harm than good in my opinion.
Now for my second issue, which is what I've dubbed the Dracudollar effect. It's no secret that Draculaura is a wildly popular character, and arguably the most recognizable from the franchise. And this isn't all Mattel's fault, but they do share partial blame. In Generation 3, outside of single doll releases, Draculaura has been in every. single. doll line. I don't think this needs to be the case. I would love to see more Cleo, or Deuce, or Lagoona. But they've all been sidelined in favor of Draculaura. And Draculaura's dolls tend to be more expensive, too. Again, not entirely Mattel's fault. But I just think it's ridiculous when she goes for 5, 10, even 50 dollars more than other dolls (in the case of VH Draculaura vs SIS frankie, not g3 but worth mentioning).
Anyways. There are my grievances with MHG3. I really like g3 overall!! but there's definitely a few things that id prefer a different way
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koaly-ty · 8 months ago
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Different Princess (Episode Reacts)
Spoilers for Different Princess from episode 21 to 23. It appears that there is still more to go......
Ep 21
is he making fireworks for her?
those bangs so cute (heart eyes)
new robes agaaaiiinn oolala
omnious person? people guess where you are going to end up when someone gets tired of your little attitude
the pale pink washes him out completely, bro get your brother to color match for you
too sweet too sweet too sweet aaaaghhhhh
well done you managed to pour water all over the romantic date he planned
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh feelings for youuu
what good news? (confusion)
princess you r the best (laughs) tease away might open her eyes to the truth, your brother will thank you
man so very happy proud touched by his intelligent wife working hard to help him
Ep 22
ah hah the plot thickens, empress u r also in this? (disapproving finger wagging)
oh boy what is mummy's boy upto?
he's got u all figured out (smirked)
spontaneous combustion…and he's dead, how can u tell what powder from a burnt corpse??
well he's got confirmation, and he's angry or upset? (cant tell)
people are hypocrites welcome to reality, nice drop (grins), also u need some color in that face, the upset seems to have brought some,
look at that cutey smile at the trust he has
oh wow heartless too much (raises eyebrow)
local man has made new year resolutions and intends to stick to them
new thought: tiny so you can carry
wow parental blackmail, u do realise where you are gonna end up, u should be glad ur daughter is competent
yeaaaaah she already has a guy in mind
ji chu= the most eligible husband material (facepalms)
new robes? wardrobe's expanding
an army in exchange for marriage, wont it look like treason?
Ah hah local man refuses, too in love with his wife
run away run away he knows u heard this is embarrassing (hides face)
arrow to the heart, his dialogue is just (clench fist mr darcy)
well it wasnt a slap (shrugs)
Ep 23
local lady holds twig for emotional support, and they are in matching colors outfits exact same white over red over white (internal screaming and dancing, couple outfits, me such a sucker for that shit)
insurance!!!!!!! (dies laughing, start a business)
Date night (sings happily)and romantic dialogue (thumbs up, two thumbs up go ji chu!!!!) fireworks and he has eyes only for you (swoons happily in this romantic cheese)
ah hopeless boy is here (shakes head sadly)
he's working up to say something, well he's done something (dies screaming happily)
father,pumpkin? why pumpkin?? her bed tantrums lol
he so soft, how you villain…..?
yaoyao i think you look better in some darker colors rather than these pastels
yes and play traitor and murderer in their husband's house
u tried to marry me off to my bestie's husband……….confusion face, indignation!
she told his mother about him, and she proposed marrying her to prince three
the princess is having such a good time, me happy for her, she best girl
this kid is asking for death, such a brat who taught him this (shock face)
his voice so soft to the kid
bro u are never going to get a more peaceful confrontation about the fact u have a kid, she's not going anywhere she's not even gonna divorce u over this or give you any shit she's just accepted she's a stepmom now and she's just like hit me, how many are there (rofl)
(face in hands breathes deeply, i've passed away) who who who gave him those lines i cant tell if they need an award or to go yeet them off a cliff for the second hand embarrassment they are inflicting on us poor viewers
local man trying to induce jealousy in wife, bro she wrote you what do you mean? every thought of yours were her thoughts
bro looks alone
whats with the hesitation
that red dress from certain angles the front top inside looks nude
this brat is a flatterer
look who's moved on (stares judgementally)
why do you sound like you are announcing a funeral, did u think she would be upset you are getting married, bro u r the only one waiting here she's living her best life
yeah look who's moved on, u lying lier, stop looking so transparently delighted that she might be upset at losing you, this is just pathetic i can read you and i suck at understanding expressions
hah u r the least of her concerns, in fact u dont exist, yaoyao is her fav, how does that feel bro (smirks)
lady i get you are caught up in your head that this is your story brought to life but how do u not see his upset disappointed face
and u, how dare you lead yaoyao on like this (angry hissing)
he's still alive (shocked pikachu face)
his heart is gonna give out…..gone for good….?….?….?
murder bestie you are still watching for that ungrateful friend of urs (eyes filling with happy tears)
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sarah-dipitous · 1 year ago
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Hellsite Nostalgia Tour 2023 Day 258
Mamma Mia/Face the Raven
“Mamma Mia”
Plot Description: a reluctant Dean brings Mary along on a mission to rescue Sam. Crowley receives word that Lucifer has possessed the body of an aging rock star
Would I Survive the First Five Minutes??: this has to be some kind of mind trickery…there’s no way Sam’s fucking the lady from London…unless. Unless? That’s what he meant by telling her “screw you” over and over last episode. Oh. No one died
Omgggg Dean opening up to Cas about how weird it is to have Mary back, I’m losing my mind ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Ohhhh, Dean gets his guilt complex from his mom
I KNEW it! I knew this wasn’t real. I knew Sam was hallucinating that whole thing
Can she STOP seemingly killing Sam FOR FIVE MINUTES??
Love Rowena scamming this guy, making up a backstory about being a prima ballerina. She can do whatever she wants forever. Stop getting in the way of her getting that man’s bread, Crowley!!
I was gonna say I can’t believe Lucifer came all the way to Cleveland but…actually I can. That seems like a thing that would happen here. Of course he showed up as this rock star’s dead girlfriend to get him to say yes to possession
Dammit Crowley, let her have this. At the same time, Rowena, I’m sure you can find another old rich guy with limited time left in earth to scam. You are hot af, girl, let this one go. Don’t get wrapped up in Crowley’s schemes
Ah damn, she got Dean…
Oh, Ro Ro, I can’t believe you let your son drag you into this again
Oooo, just a smidge of body horror on my lunch break? Getting very um…end of chapter 349 vibes, and it’s concerning to me
Not to say spn should kill off another woman, but they’re spending a whole lot of time not shooting London lady
Aw, Mary’s adjusting. She’s figuring out modern life ❤️ and her boys are helping her
Noooooo, dammit, Lucifer’s keeping Rowena prisoner now. She spends so much time fighting for her freedom…I’m so mad this is happening to her
Legitimately crying at this scene between Sam and Mary.
God…as much as Dean tries to be like his father in many ways, he’s also JUST like his mom. I wish they’d just come together to talk it out instead of going through photos and John’s journal separately
“Face the Raven”
Plot Description: The Doctor and Clara find themselves in an alien world, hidden on a street in London
At least today I know if there’s no picture, there’s something wrong (oh good, there’s picture)
Oh shit! Is this one of the kids she’d nanny for before?? He seems too old to be, but what do I know? I’m just sayin I can’t imagine her giving any student but the girl she took to the moon the TARDIS’s phone number
Oh!! Oh wait! This is the guy from when there was an alien turning people 2D!! Ok ok that…it’s been a while since he’s been here
They only have like 6.5 hours to save Rigsy??
When you’ve read enough John Green to immediately get what Clara’s saying when she starts talking about trap streets on maps
Ooooo, is that like a maroon velvet blazer the Doctor is wearing?? Maybe not
Did he say FIFTY MINUTES LEFT?!
Not Arya is back! And she’s the one who sentenced Rigsy to death
Ok, so…the budget for this episode is very weird. First, there’s a whole huge set that is very reminiscent of a certain hidden street from [fandom redacted] where many different alien species have gathered as refugees…HOWEVER, the street lamps cause everyone to be undercover in a facade of the viewer’s own normal experiences. Sometimes there’s a glitch, and you can bypass the illusion (so we briefly see an Ood giving medical-ish attention to a cyberman), but it mostly feels like how spn makes all its monsters look like people
Clara don’t you dare. Don’t you dare try to take the death sentence from him. I mean, it’s…your plan isn’t necessarily the WORST, but it’s hella risky
Is that just subtle bi Clara confirmation? Talking about her relationship to Jane Austen and saying “god, I love her. Take that how you like”
Oof. She has GOT to stop making deals with random aliens. She nearly ripped reality apart last time she did. She opened a portal to a different dimension. Now, she’s making deals to keep this street safe in exchange for the Doctor??
I’m not okay with this goodbye between Clara and the Doctor. I’m very distraught. I’m gonna miss them together.
There’s something extra cruel about making the Doctor watch his best friend die right in front of his eyes
Oh of COURSE it’s a “to be continued…” ending. You know…at least I SORT OF got what I wanted. One self contained episode, and now not a two parter. This seems to be a THREE parter
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