#but like. its game canon sonic
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The inherent need to put the romantic rivals in a relationship
#sonic the hedgehog#antoine depardieu#sonic x antoine#antoine x sonic#sontwan#this is specifically based off of satam antoine i havent read enough of archie ant to know his character#but like. its game canon sonic#oh yeah this is how yall find out im a sontwan shipper lmao#he has layers he has secrets he has multishipping tendencies
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and! barbarian!fig! its her
#fantasy high#dimension 20#figueroth faeth#fh class quangle#if u look at the junior year design and think tifa lockhart: yeag#I already thought the cleric!gorgug junior year design kinda is very aerith so. lol#but! I do feel like these designs maybe portray the clearest arc out of all of them so far. I like that#some of it came from a bit of necessity which is really fun that mirrors the actual play format thats cool#(necessity being freshman year riz is pretty much a huge block of red flannel lmao. kinda stole figs canon color coding for a bit)#(and he's got the owlbear jacket from taping the games in sophomore year... so I cant give fig the big red blocking until#junior year lmao. coincidentally this forced me to be a bit more dynamic with her concept which is great)#her second pair of shoes very sonic tho. I kinda enjoy that lol#tbh I really love that canon gorgug is like in a pair of chucks 24/7 that is SO funny for a barbarian I hope to keep the energy going#with class swap fig I think a barbarian who wears like collector sneakers is awesome. the foot support is so important to their work#the general idea of a hyperfem girlypop barbarian still ticks for me tbh. idk enough abt the zeitgeist to know if thats passé now or not#but doing Fashion on ur job of bodily tearing ur opponent apart with the least flourish possible is just a hit for me#her knee brace is from like an injury back in her cheer days that she got by overexercising in hope of being good enough that#the team couldn't let her go. the team then used that same injury as a pretext to let her go#I think abt her arc tbh... fig's thing in canon junior year abt the point of her rebelling. I feel like a lot of it can also apply to rage#both knocking things over and holding onto things don't like. make anything new. destruction without at least a glimpse of a vision#of the after is ultimately a cynical defeatist point of view... strategic barbarianism for fig babeyy#yay! once again its time for me to Fucking Sleep. but hopefully I can hammer out a proper ref for riz and gorgug both in the#following week inbetween doing my job. its that time of da year lads (<- fully seasonal worker)
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idk where people got the idea shadow is better/faster/more powerful than sonic anyways. like no he isnt??? obviously hes pretty close but its very obviously not a surpassing level.
#shadow#sonic#maybe archie sonic? but even then sonic is more thug than him#although theres not as much direct comparison as the games#but sa2 is partially canon anyways.#we dont know if archie sonic can chaos control in base form#but its highly likely he can. since scourge did so without being super too and hes not even from the same zone
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knuckles approaches the "deal 800 damage in 8 seconds" challenge. after multiple failed attempts, he stomps off, fuming. an hour later, he returns, strong, more skilled. after multiple failed tests, he storms off, fuming. stupid challenge!!!! shouldnt bother with it anyway, he doesnt even need to beat it, he can navigate without it!!
a couple of hours later, he scoffs as he sees sonic approach the challenge. sonic beats it first try. knuckles walks into the woods to scream
#not really spoilers since its just existing game mechanics#and this isnt like Canon this is just how my game turned out#sonic frontiers#knuckles#sonic#egg.txt#egg plays#sonicposting
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on one hand i think it should be mostly games with Actual intentional lgbt rep and themes being tagged as lgbt because tagging a bunch of random games as that makes it harder for people wanting representation to find what they're looking for. and ive also seen a lot of people who dont know how steam tags work spreading misinformation or getting their hopes up for nothing because of people tagging random games as lgbt . but on the other hand i think every new sonic game that comes out being tagged as lgbt on steam is hilarious . sonic lgbt icon forever
#for anyone who doenst know tags on steam are chosen by players#and tags on games that arent out yet are often put there as a joke and dont reflect the actual content of the game#so no sonadow isnt going to become canon because sonic x shadow generations is tagged as lgbtq#because sega didnt put that there. its just fans putting it there based on the title#which. the title isnt inherently a ship thing either lmao whenever sega puts 'x' between two names its meant to mean and or crossover#and doesnt inherently have romantic connotation. theyve done this sort of thing before#like yeah sonadow moment the title is funny people can joke about it i dont care#but i see so many people talk like theres no non-sonadow explanation for this and like. there is..?#you just cant turn your shipping brain off so youre ignoring it#Anyway. yeah of course its an lgbt game. it has sonic the hedgehog in it#yeah of course sonic frontiers is a gay game. look at every cutscene with sonic and knuckles in it
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You: I hate Sonic Prime because it's canon.
Me: Sonic Prime is canon???
You: Yep! It was confirmed to be canon and take place somewhere after Advance 3. That's crazy right?
Me: Super crazy, but if it bothers you so much you should just do what I do.
You: What's that?
Me: Anytime someone mentions that Prime is canon, acknowledge and then immediately forget about it.
You: What are you talking about? How could you just FORGET that? Aren't you a Sonic fan? Don't you know the rules? Sonic canon determines how we think of the characters, it constructs how they're presented both externally and internally. Insisting that Sonic Prime is canon is an insult to these characters and the world that Sega has worked so hard to build!
Me: Sonic Prime is canon???
#Literally anytime I see people arguing about how Prime is canon#Like... SO?#So what?#That means Ian Flynn gets to make a passing reference to the shatterverse in a game down the line#Like y'all who cares?#I'm sorry if you don't like Sonic characterization but I feel like people tend to get REALLY up in arms over stuff when its like...#What are the CONSEQUENCES of that?#Because if we're worried about character degradation I'm not seeing it#But also I love IDW so what do I know?#Sonic#Sonic Prime#Sonic Canon
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I need to be more insane abt platonic relationships actually
#ramblings#always feels like there’s too much shipping in the sonic fandom. we should be more insane abt platonic relationships to compensate#especially platonic relationships that don't fit the norm#ones that aren't easily defineable by terms like 'friend' or 'family' or 'teammate' or stuff like that#or rivalries. this fandom absolutely loves its enemies/rivals to lovers (cough cough sonic and shadow cough)#but what about rivals to friends. rivals to friendly rivals? rivals to straight up enemies that fucking hate each other#the possibilities are endless and yet. we keep treading the same ground when it comes to character relationships#especially when romance is involved#idk we need to get more creative with how we portray character relationships in fanon#bc canon already has a lot of interesting dynamics going on y'all just don't explore them all that much#i could turn this into like an ask game or something. like send me two characters and i'll describe what their relationship is like#that could be fun. anyways
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game, awesom, can you tag your sonadow now 👍
#yes the jokes about how its canon now because the title has x in it ale also sonadow content that i would rather avoid THANKS#im curious about this game#i havent played generations yet its been in my library for a year now...#so i have no idea what this is going to be except hey here no original ideas from us! 👍#i would like to see some good shadow and sonic interactions but i heard generations barely had any story so idk#ough i will have to play the game now#bro i want to be excited so bad but shippers are going to be so insufferable im just going to be angry all the time#-_-
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If ANYONE on here has a favorite obscure sonic game they want gifs/posts about, just ask. I will happily scrounge around the depths of the internet and do everything in my power to find the dustiest pieces of sonic knowledge
#its fun. its like if internet research was dumpster diving and youre actually finding cool information#sidenote: if you believe that the sonic & mario games are canon. you have to accept that silver and donkey kong are literally friends.#oh and also omega beat the shit out of donkey kong. i have a gif of that. i need to post it#and just! theres a lot of good character interaction that i feel like we are missing out on#text#i need a ''hey this is op rambling'' tag for this blog so ppl can filter it#rambles
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Also I feel like everyone but the actual sonic writers understands the timeline better
"Sonic Prime happens happens after Sonic Advance 3" lmao no
#sonic the hedgehog#sega#sth#sonic prime#orbot and cubot literally appear in like the first episode#and they weren't canon until sonic colors#imma be real ik people say sonic prime is game canon#but i deadass do not believe it#its basically an au
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may be a controversial opinion but does it matter whats "canon" or not. what even is canon. is it not enough for each media type to tell their own story with the characters without /having/ to keep consistency with the other stories going on
#wispy.txt#i think of it like. there are so many mario games. they're all canon in their own respective universes. i guess#like sonic prime sonic frontiers sonic idw they're all technically canon but i dont think they /have/ to share#the exact same timeline and events etc#i count sonic games as the ''main'' ''canon'' ''timeline'' everything else is whatever to me#idk if im making sense im so hungry rn and i cant stop thinking about the chicken i have marinating in the fridge rn#its going to be so scrum diddly umptious
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Gonna use my refuses to acknowledge canon card
Prime is not canon to the mainline I refuse to believe it
#listen i know how annoying it is for people complaining about prime sonic#the thing for me is i like him as his own thing#separate from game sonic he can be pretty fun#but they are not the same person LOL#also why should prime be canon. let it do its own thing like all other sonic media!!!#i feel like it just unnecessarly complicates things#sonic prime#sonic#fetti talks#sonic posting
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I'm really glad that Sega has allowed Amy to move out of her harassment phase re: her crush on Sonic, because the way she was written back in the late 90s / 00s with regards to her crush on him is not only uncomfortable and not okay behavior (continuing to push yourself on someone after they've said "no" isn't okay even when you're a girl pushing yourself on a boy), but was also really detrimental to her character. Not only did it give people a negative impression of her (her obsessing over Sonic being her boyfriend / marrying her is remembered more often by casual fans than her actual stories in those games), but it also runs contrary to the fact that Amy has always been a kindhearted, compassionate, empathetic person. We see her compassion and empathy with other characters in those same games (wanting to save Birdie from Gamma, reminding Shadow of his actual promise to Maria, helping Cream and Big find Chocola and Froggy), so to then have her turn right around and completely ignore Sonic's feelings / boundaries because of her crush is just . . . bad. It's a bad look, and bad writing. And I don't hold it against her, any more than I hold instances of Tails having bad writing against him. These are fictional characters, they're beholden to their writers. But it's still not great and I'm really glad that Sega has realized that having Amy harass Sonic isn't funny or cute, and has instead allowed her to treat him like she does the rest of her friends: with the kindness, compassion, and empathy she's known for.
#not rebloggable bc i know how this fandom is & i don't care for the discourse#but i was just rewatching some Heroes cutscenes and y i k e s#Amy being like ''just give up! you're not getting out of marrying me now!'' before Team Rose attacks Team Sonic is like . . . jeez#it's not a great look!#a lot of this was a product of its time; anime from that time period did a lot with ''girl pursues guy no matter how much he tells her no#and this is seen as OK bc teehee women are weaker than men and therefore ineffectual threats''#see also: Sakura pursuing Sasuke - although decades later she never grew out of that & in her post-canon novel has the ''epiphany''#that she will continue to push herself on him until his ''no'' turns into a ''yes''#so needless to say that i am SO. FUCKING. GLAD. that Sega got their heads out of their asses & didn't go that route w/ Amy#i would still prefer Sonic to always remain single bc I'm an aroace Sonic truther - but at least we won't be in a timeline where#Amy just ''wore him down'' - bc she hasn't harassed him like that for years now. she calmed down & they have a friendship#so if they DO make the ship overt it'll be bc she calmed down so Sonic was able to develop feelings naturally#versus she wore him down with the harassment. & her behavior in the 90s / aughts games WAS harassment#but back then it was considered cute & funny in anime (bc again - girls aren't threatening teehee /gag) so. it was what it was#i'm just glad things are different now
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hi. i finally finished the sonic frontiers dlc. i like this ending :)
#sonic frontiers spoilers#for the tags only#sorry i need to ramble in the tags#did i cheat to finish the final trial. yes. do i regret it ? eehhhhh no not really#i just REALLY wanted to see the fuckin ending and i was tired of getting beat tf up and trying to figure out how to fight knight#when i eventually replay for my new 100% save file i'll do it legit. i think. it depends how i'm feeling when i get there#HEY I DID EVERYTHING LEGIT EXCEPT THAT ONE TRIAL OK CUT ME SOME SLACK#anyway the ending was cute. im glad sage is alive and happy in this ending. idk if THIS is the canon ending or if the other one is but!!!#i like both endings :) i just really like this game ok#i love this stupid blue fuck and his stupid little furry friends. i love them so much#def my fav game of all time. idc if its ''flawed'' i love it anyway#i do NOT tolerate sonic frontiers hate. and i never WILL !!!!!!!#unless we're complaining about the pop-in and render distance LOL#andre.txt
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if sega makes tails adventure a classic exclusive thing i'm gonna cry. a lot/neg
#speedy posting#sth#tails adventure#text post#but like#tails adventure just makes tails a much more interesting character#like him being implied to be able to talk with flickies#or the origin of the sea fox#or the origin of the ecplosive mice in sonic battle#or fuck even his fear in general#he went through so much#all for being flushed down the drain#i really hope they dont go with the 'all classic games besides sonic 1 2 3 and cd are non canon' route#because its so lame#praying that they stay with the original jpn manual backstory where it happens before tails met sonic#and mecha sonic mk ii came back!#FUCK#FEELS THE RABBIT AND CYBER SINGER MIKA EXIST IN BOTH UNIVERSES#WE CAN HAVE MODERN SPEEDY#IF THEY ARENT FUCKING COWARDS#sorry for the rambling#had a not so great day lmao
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you know i do wonder how many sonic characters actually have living parents. like knuckles is the last of his kind so obviously his parents arent around anymore. both guys who could be considered shadows dads are 100 percent confirmed dead. sonic is canonically an orphan im pretty sure. and on the other side of the coin cream is like the only character in the game cast who has a living parent we actually see onscreen. but what about everyone else i dont think theres a straight answer for any other character. other than rouge's mom being mentioned a couple times i Guess but we dont even know anything about her or if shes still alive just that she existed at some point. are these kids constantly putting themselves in danger because they dont have parents around to stop them or because their parents just dont care
#like what about tails. im guessing he didnt have any sort of family he was attached to if he left to be with sonic so quickly#but that doesnt really mean he didnt have parents at all. maybe he had parents and they just sucked i dont know#what about amy. what if she had parents this whole time we just never see them.#what about blaze. considering shes a princess id assume she was born into that role#but i dont know if her parents are ever actually mentioned#maybe theyre dead and there was no one else to take on their role and thats why blaze has so much responsibility at such a young age?#silver . he was born in a wet cardboard box all alone i cant really imagine him hvaing parents sorry#considering charmy is 6 and living with vector. an adult whos obviously not his biological dad.#i feel like something probably happened to charmys parents#espio i dont really question as much#becuase it feels very common in the sonic universe for teenagers to have more freedom than would be expected in real life#or maybe its not that common and the teenagers we're actually following are just living the most fucked up lives ever. i dotn know#but either way. espio where are your parents buddy. are they still alive. vector where are YOUR parents are they still alive#i dont know if i actually want canon explanations for all this though#because its kinda fun not knowing every detail about every characters life and being able to speculate and insert your headcanons n stuff#to be clear im talking about game canon#i know stuff like archie sonic and the sonic movies and the 90s cartoons will sometimes give characters new family members#or talk about their family situation even if the games dont say anything about that sort of thing
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