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#ok so im midway through ginny and georgia season 2#and listen i think everyone here is worthy of respect and therapy#but joe is the only one i still love#maybe joe and austin#everyone else makes me sad lots and lots#and you know what everyone in the fandom who is constantly pitting traumas against each other#you are part of the problem#ginny and georgia
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LSU joe really is that bitch… you can’t watch most of these college football playoff games without one of the announcers bringing him up talking about his accomplishments!! and like. LSU wasn’t even close to making the playoffs this season and yet we’re still out here having everyone sing joe’s praises (partial thanks to nuss for now having the second most amount of passing yards, only behind joe of course)
also so happy that even cfb people are like hey look at the crazy numbers joe has this year in the nfl! and they also call out the defense for holding him back 🙃
#just things i notice watching college ball#everyone loves bringing joe up though it’s quite entertaining to hear#to be fair they mentioned him a bit bc of the doubleheader being on espn#but they only really talked about joe and no one else lmao#just love hearing others praise him without any prior reasoning. they say this stuff just because they want to <3#because yea he still is that bitch#joe burrow#txt
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Helloo Sherlock & Co fandom, this is the only time I'm contributing anything I think lol. I love Joe he's my favorite character and I'll definitely never hear from him again but it's okay I'll keep his spirit alive through the power of not shutting the hell up about him
and uhh I'll put my art I've done under a cut so this post isn't too annoying to scroll past lol
#sherlock & co#sherlock and co#jonklock#john watson#sherlock holmes#joe mason#shoscombe old place#sherlock & co podcast#sherlock & co fanart#i love john and he WILL use a cane because i do and I said he does lol#Like he's already got the leg injury what's a little#what's a little cane gonna do ? :3#Also I imagine joe to have a silly hat like that but also I don't feel like drawing it so that's why I only drew him wearing it once#honestly my first drawing of him was the worst one but it's okay i still like them#i know that like these are pretty stiff but art's been hard lately so frankly i don't care#also sherlock is biracial black and white just like me because who is going to stop me !!!!#i make my own representation i don't care !!! /silly#side note i know i got john's age wrong#that was actually an estimate !! before i heard him say he's 34 !!#pretty silly huh ?
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you seasons 2 & 3 twincestuous subtext i miss you so so bad
#FORTY LOVE#LIKE FUUUUCK THEY WERE EVERYTHING TO ME#quinn family sickness stoleee the show for me like season 1 is fantastic (tho the book is better)#but s2 is FANTASTIC and s3 is like. one of the best seasons of television ever imo#sorry joe goldberg i love you forever but love quinn is just soooo compelling#im still in s1 of my rewatch but everytime i remember forty quinn will return to me soon i start giggling#s4 character assassination is only good for aesthetic and homosexual subtext reasons#love quinn#forty quinn#you tv series#you netflix#you series#you#cw incest
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Friendlocke Violet Gijinkas (Part 2/7)
PART 2 BAYBEE WAHOOO!! Three more gijinka designs comin right up!
I plan on posting them in order by groups of three, so there’s gonna be seven parts in total, all of which I’ll be linking here when done vvv
(Part One) (Part Three) (Part Four) (Part Five) (Part Six) (Part Seven)
!! These will contain personal headcanons I have for the cast, little fun facts, and also spoilers for Friendlocke Violet (for both the edited vids and the streams) This also contains a small amount of blood on one of the images!!
@saltydkart-reblogs
And that’s pretty much it, designs under the cut!
JOE:
The reason Joe dislikes most bird pokemon such as fletchling is because they're always stealing and pecking at the olives he... or well more specifically his company grows.
Speaking of which, they own a large plot of land which is used specifically to grow olive trees, which of course are used to make the olive oil he sells. What? Did you think that the olives come from Joe themselves? Of course not silly, welcome to capitalism.
That being said, Joe DOES know how to garden. When they first started their olive oil company they had to grow their own olive trees. Nowadays, in their spare time, they'll sometimes be found tending to the olive trees in their company's garden.
His crown is personally tailored for Joe and Joe ONLY. Crafted with the shiniest gold and the richest olives, all fit for a king! Somehow it never falls of his head. (Fun fact: the points are made to look like olive oil bottles)
Joe needs glasses but usually wears contacts when in public. Not that they look bad with glasses, it's just a personal choice.
Joe LOVES being involved in... well, anything! As long as it's not weird or sexual or illegal (that last one counts UNLESS it involves scamming others into buying his oil products), he is more than happy to invite himself into whatever is going on around him. What are you going to do? Stop him? Oh please!
HANNAH Ü:
At the start of her career, she would spend her days doing her own one-man (or.. well... woman) shows at subway stations, telling stories and entertaining other pokemon and people alike while they waited for the next train to arrive.
Her hat and cape are made entirely of salt! She is able to transform her cape and hat into different shapes and usually used this ability of hers to make stuff such as accessories, hats, and props that fit the role she's donning at the time.
Hannah LOVES collecting stickers and often wears them proudly on her body (in her poke form ofc ofc). However, she usually has to get someone else to stick them onto her bc of her lack of actual hands.
Some of her improv roles are inspired by the people she meets while others are inspired by pieces of media she's interested in at the moment.
Will ABSOLUTELY learn a new language if she needs to for a role. Duolingo speedrun world record
MYKYIE:
As stated previously, Mykyie used to be a circus performer before he quit to pursue his dreams. His most popular act involved him spinning plates on a stick while standing on a ball.
^^^ Because of this, he also has really, REALLY good balance.
Mykyie always keeps his Miku glowsticks on him, even when not attending any of her concerts.
"Anger Point" is basically an uncontrollable form of last resort whenever Mykyie is close to death but can still fight, it usually leads to him attacking whoever or whatever caused him great harm (In the instance of Lark, it was when he crit Mykyie and the ladder's health was extremely low.)
The Miku tattoo on Mykyie's arm was designed by Mykyie himself! However, it was drawn on him by an anonymous underground artist who went by many names to hide his true identity. The name that the artist went by at the time Mykyie got his tattoo was "Cl@ir33"
The cuffs and cape that he wears are... well, WERE, red. An unknown force seems to be slowly turning them into a shade of blue.
And that's all the HCs for now! Next Gijinka batch will consist of GrAce, Braidy, and Christene's
Also here's the posterless version of Joe's Gijinka bio before I go
#So far out of all the drawings I did for each Gijinka. Joe's has taken the most time#can u guess why?#It wasn't supposed to have the posters originally but I had that thought while working on Hannah and Mykyie's drawings#and I thought that would be hilarious if I went through with it so now we're here#Gee Joe! How come you get TWO versions of your gijinka bio?#Joe originally wasnt gonna have glasses but then the edited vids came out and his design in those vids has him w glasses#and so I wanted to see what my design looked like with glasses and oh... oh!! They look very handsome with them#My version of Joe gets glasses... as a treat!#it doesnt show their gijinka design with glasses here but maybe if someone asks ill draw him w glasses#Also Mykyie finally got a redesign LETS GOOOOOOOOO!!!#Personally I love how his hair turned out it reminds me of marble desserts and now im hungry :[#And Hannah has only rlly appeared in one discord doodle and the rlly epic funeral home drawing I made that I still think to this day slaps!#a knee ways TAGS!!!#friendlocke#friendlocke violet#violet gijinka au#saltydkdan#cherris canvas#cw light blood#tw light blood
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one of the oldest hcs i have is that karate joe has a little mole on the lower left side of his lip (his left, viewer's right)
not sure when or why i gained this hc, it's just kind of been a constant in how i draw him for as long as i can remember
for example:
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well, i never really draw his mouth, so i suppose just the left of his chin
#rhythm heaven#rhythm tengoku#karate joe#guys that one drawing last week cursed me (/lhj)#i am now doomed to draw rh for the next month after punchtober prob kinda exhausted me of po#so i'd expect more of a mix of rh and po content for a bit#but damn i still got it! i can still draw at least 2 rh characters (as far as you know....)#but anyways ya i love hcing birthmarks and moles and freckles and other such “blemishes”#like all of the rh characters i've fixated on i've hced to have those sorts of marks except probably 2#i find them extremely charming#prob a reason why i got drawn to kaiser#hes like the only character i know (i dont know that many characters) who canonically has moles and its treated like. normal#like he just has them theyre not like gross or ugly or anything#i have a lots of marks and a couple moles on my body and i love all of them#i find them to be a bit of what makes me (and people in general) unique#do mind the tag ramble- apologies
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also "textless" versions of these, wahooo
#corned beef#joe iconis christmas extravaganza#bsol#speaking of >:3 & >:3 third time's the >:3 in successfully slammed both up against the window of joe iconis's car (twitter @'d & Seen)#which is really just a :3 but whom among us (orchestra hit) is not a little impish with it#first year i did fanart like wouldn't it be fun if joe saw & liked this. second yr like Same plus it did happen last time#then also recency Fun Times bias sure but he did make it a frame in his End Of Year Good Times Celebration video like >:'3#yes i draw exactly what i wanna draw b/c it's some specific thing i enjoy that much so Yep that is the xmas show to me#so powerfully i was moved like ooh fun xmas villain wrole?? in '19 when i was paying attention & relieved of some bmc closure malaise#by the xmas show but obv Least aware / knowledgable lol. technically showed up in '18 around nov/dec but no chance Right then of tuning in#i mean i had the capacity but did not know it existed / even Less helpful preexisting context. anyway so by the time the show returns#& i've done research in between & gone my god i am i live laugh loving like Yeah i'll do more fanart & omg cyril & omg krampusfucking#able to ramp it up this year & like just thanks to Drawing Experience i'm better at forging ahead through thee process even when it's#extra ambitious like my god am i in over my head? well keep swimming for the surface like only several times going [aaa....] only to yknow#not be that tripped up anyway but still go [(celebrate) christmas!!! (with me)] & be like Do It For The Krampusfucking Gift#one post for another like lighting up my life joe just coming out like ''who wants clips. first up Full Cyril Fucks The Krampus number''#like jeez made that happen And passed it along....it's always the like epitome of my art like i make the specific often really niche stuff#i really respond to; does anyone else enjoy this? if yes; Wheeee; sometimes this is also ppl Behind the really niche shit i enjoy#like i truly hope you do get that kick out of it as i slam it up to the window; worth a Highlight Of Your Year or not#the power of [i do like to Draw the things i latch on to] + [internet] for you#really the bsol design even More an event in ''how did i even do this'' b/c even when planning to make it slightly easier like well#fewer figures; i'll use ink pen so i hone the lineart less than i would to precisely get [line weight mostly irrelevant] Line Geometry#yet still going ruh oh i'm honing for sure. but then like did Most of the lineart all in one night + all the coloring the next round#when i draw quite slowly / the Honing is virtually always an inextricable part of my process like i do Nothing in less than Hours#like i think even my freewheeling bsol sketches posted just this morning took me at Least an hour; judging by vids i played in the bg lol#not quite calibrated to have Attuned Confidence In My Ability To Forge Ahead thusly like oh no if i don't have Momentum or it doesn't#happen to be one of those times things just spontaneously come out great right off without more honing / consideration we're fucked....#not actually the case but yknow still realizing this lol But still able to just pat myself on the shoulder like It's Manageable & it is/was
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Something really funny that's occurred to me is the way Joe talks about Maccie is like she's some catastrophic event that happened to their family "I can't believe she's been here that long." / "Everything's been different since she was born" / "Everything changed." / "She changed everything."
And it's just rlly funny to me. I want to up the dramaticness of his words at some point. And anyway, he's talking to the Samurai/Ronin for the first time and I'm wondering the impression he's getting lmao
Joe is certainly expressive to me, but only when he's given the chance. And I think w Ronin, he just started letting a lot of stuff out bc thus guy is gonna go on his way anyways.. but then he's like wait!!! Actually let me go?? For a little? (Platonic yearning so bad)
Ronin like 》^. "I suppose.. Alright, curious karate man, I'll accompany you a little longer."
Or something I'm messing around UGH
#the reason everything changed is bc joes mother passed away either shortly after Maccies birth or during#that started the strain w joe and sr but they also had.. her yk? its just sillay#dysfunctional karate family ily <3#sr isnt a terrible father he is just narrow sighted and firmly believes he knows best. he doesnt give his kids the room to grow- but he#really loves them. he just wants to protect them in a way i think.. he just lost his wife and i think that made his parenting way more#overbearing. buT ALSO. JOE JUST BEEFS W MACCIE BC YK SJXNXNX theyre siblings#espexially when they were younger. teen joe is sooo funny to me. teen angst ft this baby i dont want in my room KGLZLGKXMVKKC#in current theyre much much closer and Joe has remained Maccie's favorite person. but Joe still gets really annoyed / tired of her sometime#SRRY ugh ily karate family#also also ronin and maccie dynamic so real. i like ronin being patient with children. except maccie is wayyyy more antagonizing to him than#like my oc the lost girl. so fun!!!! sorry#karate maccie#rh head canon#< new tag#karate joe#sr isnt a bad dad on purpose agenda. sr could have the possibility to apologize and fix things one day.#maccies only ever known this version of her father and she doesnt have the capaxity to try and forgive him for certain things joe will#maccie is the golden child but she is also the problem child. she uses her favor to her advantage and to rile up her dad sometimes#just bevause she can and she has a little bit of a problem with him sometimes bc.. you know? shes a very ambitious teen and she doesnt wsnt#to be shackled..... and she doesnt like thinking of Joe as that way and UGH#i love them im normal#to elaborate a tiny bit more i hc joe as having chronic fatigue like myself. hes low spoons and he pushes himself despite it.#but his disability holds him back sometimes snd its like.. you know? he doesnt want to be the weak memver of the family so he keeps pushing#but he also cares about karate too. its not something negative to him. and stuff. even if its hard. its avtually good for his body / health#when he doesnt overexert himself anyway
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What do you think is the actual deal between Harry and Taylor? Because they seem to be each other's muses- and with the lyrical back and forth that's been going on, EVEN AFTER A DECADE- it can't be nothing. They give off major soulmates vibes (musical-wise) and even relationship-wise (although they could also be star-crossed lovers) with such shitty timing everytime 😂 i've supported joe and taylor for years, but I've got this inkling in my mind like someway and somehow, H and T might still find their way back to each other. Joe just seems meh :/ tbh.
i almost feel like i shouldn't answer this because it's a bit loaded, but it's 3:30 am so why not 😅💕
i'm going to first defer to my friend @cowboylikedean who said:
"they can be soulmates, but not romantically. Consider: their whole relationship has been leading to a friendship which was always destined, but needed a contextual foundation that only an ill defined on again off again/only communicating through sex then song could create. Consider that. Joe is Taylor's forever person. doesn't mean Harry has to be nobody."
we don't know if they've forged a friendship behind closed doors or not, and whether we ever know anything about that is up to them. their interaction at the grammys was warm and familiar, which at the very least speaks to their feelings of respect and kindness towards one another as artists and people. taylor's support for him was clearly genuine (though you could say that of her support for basically everyone in that room). i think it's really important and meaningful to acknowledge that there are a vast array of dynamics that can be considered a soul connection - not only romantic, but familial, platonic/friendship, artistic, those can all be transcendent and vibrant relationships too. i personally feel there's a soul element and connection within their music that needed to exist as a spark to get them where they are today. (had they not been what they were to each other, what would their careers even look like? what would 1989 be? what would hs1 be? etc) and they were also, in many ways, peers when they were together, and in unique positions of fame at a young age that most other people couldn't understand. their timing was consistently wrong/off, but that connection in their hearts and art still came through clearly. to me, it's part of the invisible string - they had to meet and have that complicated on/off thing and have love for one another to be on the paths where they were supposed to go, in different ways, and to be able to stand in a room together where they're both succeeding and both feeling gratitude for what all of that meant.
i think it's a disservice to joe to...not pay attention to what taylor has explicitly said about him, and why that relationship is so different and profound for her. i've seen a LOT of commentary lately about him being boring and not "getting" their connection, and it strikes me as somewhat unfair because we don't see it, we're not privy to it, and we shouldn't be, that is very much by their design. (she did say romance isn't dead if you keep it just yours!) but because someone like h is sparkly and charismatic and a musician, and joe is somewhat more reserved and less obviously visible and an actor, there's this sense that we "know" him less, which can easily seem less interesting, but keep in mind that how any fan sees him and how taylor herself sees and describes him are totally different. he's home to her, he's that gorgeous dream to her, he's the daylight to her, and that's what matters. he's who she's built her life with and found her peace with for many years now, and vice versa. h hasn't found that yet, but i hope he does. but that doesn't necessarily mean harry has to be nothing to her. whether that's fondness and recognition of their influences on one another and gentle nods to the past, or whether that comes in actual friendship, i think it's really important and valuable to acknowledge that the soul connection can happen and NOT be romantic, or initially be romantic/sexual and then transform into something else later, and it's no less of a cosmic pull. in one way or another, they'll always be connected, even if it remains in lyric and melody - and that's also always going to keep having a life of its own.
#i hope this makes sense#anonymous#letterbox#haylor#(platonic; artistic)#thrown out speeches#joe is (to borrow her words) the guy on the screen coming straight home to her and her one and only her lifeline#other people can still have value and unique places in someone's life even when they've found their love though!#i'd love to see them be friends for personal reasons of course <3
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christ.
#i love joe i do#but the fact that i can hear his snoring through earplugs closed doors AND while in a separate room is#its takin a toll#i think its getting worse tbh but i cant like tell for sure bc its always been super bad and loud#before people start ab sleep apnea: healthcare is a nightmare rn and he doesnt seem to want to see anyone ab it#which. idk i guess its not that serious?? the most it affects him is i dont sleep in the same room anymore#bc i have real bad misophonia and snoring is one of Those Noises#plus like even if they invent the worlds best earplugs that block out all sounds forever#he snores so bad it vibrates the mattress#so... now we got our own sleeping spaces#but hes still like snoring really bad#connecticut was kind of hell bc theres only so much anyone can do#he's also a very heavy sleeper so its not like i can wake him up#and im a very light sleeper#so even when i go to bed first and get to sleep alright when he comes in or lays down i wake up#we've tried like#a wedge pillow some weird mouth guards this chin trap thing some nose strip things#i do genuinely think its sleep apnea so we need a cpap machine i think but those are expensive as fuck#and im not even sure if you can get one without a diagnosis??#well. thanks for reading my vent#i promise our marriage and relationship is fine and tbh better than a lot of other people we know's...#its just this one thing#:(
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Younger me would've been so appalled about how I consume media and obsess over hot men
BUT IDC IF I SEE A HOT MAN THEN THAT IS THE PLOT TO MEEEEEE
#i love andrew like ppl are saying they got scared of him bc of the movie mainstream but now im obsessed#joe keery this one is for you <3333 heart emoji smile emoji#like obviously I don't just watch movies bc of hot people I'm actually very picky#with books movies everything#and i can still enjoy plots and shit#but when a hot man comes around it's over for me#wish I could keep this energy around irl men#but im afraid its only women for me#also does anyone have movie recommendations??? i'm into horror comedy if it's an old movie thrillers and like indie films as well#rem does stuff and panics#stranger things#steve harrington#andrew garfield#dylan o'brien
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in9 really hit me right where it hurts
#i hate that it reminded me so much of léo like. i didnt see any of the red flags in the eps just like i didnt see any of his. the way chas#looked so in love and ready to help him with his probleme and the whole mick thing. and joe reassuring him and chas trusting him and being#so happy and in love. and then the twist and joe explaining how he never loved him and was like if u paid attention you would have noticed#and all the things about being a secret and no one knowing about chas. it hit so deep#he was sooo good at pretending. and so was leo fr. 6 months he had me at his feet always promising me stuff and then backing away. being#the sweetest no one had ever been to me only to tell me that he didnt have feelings for me. not telling about me to anyone in his life.#going on dates with others without me knowing. he played so well. i felt so loved and yet so anxious all the time. put everything on hold#for him. only to find out he never loved me and was using me to show his 9k followers on twitter that he was a trans ally just like he used#other mentally fragile trans guys before me. fucking sicko. im still not completely over this#so yeah the whole haha i never loved you and you didnt even notice thing do be hitting hard#.txt#anyway....sorry for the vent lol
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so i've seen the sara mini episode.
#i will. be putting spoilers in tags so beware 👍#so many thoughts i’m AAAA#the implication that if sara hadn’t introduced ryoko to joe that he’d still be alive????#ryoko’s whole ‘sara... joe… i’ll see you tomorrow right?’ or however she worded it.#shut UP#SARAS DAD MAKING HER FIGHT HIM TO LEAVE?????#the man only gets more insane the more we learn okay#AND RYOKOS SO PRETTY????#gah sara and joe just being best friends my heart literally feels like it could tear in two good Bye#i def have more to say abt it but i am tired rn#LMAO ALSO ‘sexy lady’ just made me think of the sexy onee chan from the vivid old tale pj/sk event#i miss them so much yt/td hyperfix come back to me please#i went from it being one of my main fandoms to not really anymore i’m sorry to the ppl who followed me for it#i had it super associated w someone who isn’t in my life anymore but i don’t think of it that way anymore so!! hopefully i’ll be back more#esp when the last part drops :)#POINT BEING I MISS THEM AND I LOVE THEM AND IM VERY SAD#ALSO I MISSED SARAS INSANE POTENTIAL RESPONSES SO MUCH#the girl of all time she’s so beloved to me
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i don't disagree with ian terry's win.
#the jury q&a was so wildly uncomfortable between dan and ian it was awesome#dan definitely kissed some ass in his speech for a couple more votes#dan was a different player once frank won hoh at the final 8 and he was a more ruthless player#not that he hadnt stabbed backs before but at that point he did have to have no allegiance to anyone other than himself#i had heard people say that dan should have won bb14 and that the jury still being bitter cost him the win#but in all fairness i feel like frank and shane were the only ones left too bitter and joe somewhat less personally#britney and jenn both voted for ian despite also giving dan a lot of praise in the jury house#i wouldn't disagree necessarily if dan had won either#i don't necessarily know that a 'bitter' jury means a wrong jury and i'm actually more of the belief#that the jury as the last players in the house w the final two genuinely would know better than we would who deserves that win#i think ian won more for being an underdog and for coming such a long way as a player and not bc frank and shane were still mad#ian got as far as he deserved to i love our autistic king wtf#im gonna watch season 15 this is about to get so problematic#big brother#bb14#shut up kaily
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Dear Joe Hills and Martyn, the two guys on tumblr who i see hiding in the tags often- I do not have the energy to block you, please just don't interact. Thank you , love your content-
REMEMBER THIS IS JUST THE CHARACTERS NOT THE CREATORS
Martyn InTheLittleWood
Submissions: 5 Reasons: - They could've been so domestic and lovely but the watchers said screw you - They were canonically married in Last Life, something no one talks about nearly enough. Martyn is the jealous girlfriend who tries so hard to be casual and Mumbo is scared of commitment and is trying his hardest for Martyn. They are messy, they are fun, they are the friends who are exes but are still on good terms. They need to be talked about more. - They're literally married
Joe Hills
Submissions: 2 Reasons: - Joe Hills reblogged?? AND STREAM MENTION. (I regret. So much. We're here now I guess) - (from tags) #right well since no reasons were given and joe was so kind as to direct us to the poll: ok! mumbjoe a.k.a hillspoons ← name i just made up right now should win because joe is the reason HCS2 happened & that mumbo (& cleo) was added so maybe mumbo comes into HC with the impression that joe is this super-confident authority figure. & is a bit intimidated, only to be met with The Joehills Difference and all the good goofs that entails. idk i just think mumbo should develop a bit of a crush about it. that is all ✨
#mjs polls#mumbo jumbo ship bracket#ahasbands#hc mumbo#hermitblr#hermitcraft#hermitcraft mumbo#life series#mcyt#trafficshipping#hermitshipping#martyn inthelittlewood#martyn itlw#life series martyn#joe hills#mcyt polls
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eddie bracken as orville wingait in summer stock (1950)
#don't get it wrong abigail whacking orville upside the head is during their comedy backstage 5 sec to Resolution ending rush#literal last minute conclusion crunch in unsurprising formatting lol; i chose a more peaceful gif to end on. note the prior one's [feet Up]#i hope this illustrates There Is Much Material. more clips than this & truly as good or better a role as any others to choose from here#summer stock#conveniently it's apparently wingait in the movie but via that casting news this (2023) role is wingate#tcm fancam life...we've all been there. akd talking abt meet me in st. louis like maybe i should rewatch lol. have to muddle through someho#anyways there's for sure room to like grab a little thread of plot and enhance it in this story. e.g. orville & abigail could talk Thrice#their B-plot / more idiosyncratic romance there is still >>>>>> the main JUDY & GENE one unsurprisingly even w/o a third convo lol#whoops the main guy is an asshole. judy/jane learns she loves show business so just kinda may as well be in love w/the show guy ig#like girl you don't have to be...but ofc already although her & orville's dynamic is pleasant enough she seems somewhat disinterested#while fascinatingly for our purposes though orville is framed a bit like [this NERD] he can't be too dunked on b/c [romantic B-plot]#meanwhile abigail's Undeserving Of Gene/Joe (she is but she's too good for him) qualities being just that she's been too Indulged so like#in her lack of protestant ethic farm work she's so conceited & sensitive that she wants to rest & not be yelled at???#smash cut to for real judy/jane on Opening Night like asking tentatively like oh romantic interest you're Not gonna yell at me..??#but she's been Hard Working so she will tolerate the physical AND emotional demands. but she's also more Talented than abigail#so joe need not be mean to her Anyways like. okay wild maybe we could rework that but congrats abigail for NOT ending up w/him fr#meanwhile orville's arc (joe has none to speak of save realizing he wants to make out w/this other woman now) is as clear as anyone's#extricate himself from otherwise only getting to be an extension of his father who is generally interfering / directing / demeaning him als#another ''well i don't know about that'' element in that when orville Does tell him to cut that out his dad actually just rolls with that#and becomes more amicable lol like well that does work out & it's unsurprisingly like cmon orv you can't LET him treat you like that...#and if you didn't? he'd just be like ''oh haha okay''...like is abigail supposed to be ''right'' abt uhh romance there but yet she's just#too sensitive to handle Tell Don't Ask / No Apologies? maybe; but they both end up getting to Not Stand For It lol. i think that that would#ofc still be fun to develop. whereas w/joe it's like uh maybe make him Not a huge asshole in the end / judy p much in love w/Showbiz....#abigail & orville out here decidedly Not About Nonsense....but still a bit zany ig such that after the [imagine the foley] hit: it's good#like i'm sure it's ''orville's still enough of a NERD to be chill w/that'' & ''abigail's still DIFFICULT enough to put her foot down''#['50 gender politics] we all know that couple whose flaws & idiosyncrasies allow them to Apologize & Ask & use their inside voices#and be all upset if someone's trying to demean them. unlike True Romance of the man who won't bully his wife if she earns it :')#joe could instead uhh be a harried director who's actually Wrong for being a dick to his gf (if we even include that) w/the various sources#of pressure to make a show Work but there's all this req'd spontaneity / flexibility anyways & he learns that even if he's clenching throug#it he can Not take it out on other people / Make it succeed by Making ppl do anything. & also jane reminds him of Passion for this.
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