#but i just wanted to rant about it bc like there's ways to say things nicely to people and that was not one of them

[byfulcrums]

I hate the third movie so much!!!! Like a lot!!!!!!!

Prepare for a rant (under cut bc it got a bit long, sorry!)

First of all, here's a thing I always complain about when talking about HTTYD 3: the designs, and the characterization

The designs as in, the armor, is cool as hell, I'm not complaining about that I love the armor so much. But I hate how they made Toothless a literal puppy. His head is literally a square!!! They changed his personality too, when he's always been more similar to a cat than a dog

There's also the light fury. I have no words for this. The fact that they only made her Like That because they needed her to be "feminine" says enough about her

It was weirdly sexist for a HTTYD movie, considering how well done the female characters are in this series. They only made this character to be Girl Toothless, and being a girl was her only character trait

Besides that, they gave some of Toothless' mannerisms to her! The more cat-like behavior, at some points, for example. Toothless in the first movie was more graceful, stealthy, moved silently, etc. They gave all of his different, elegant ways of moving to her, because they wanted to push the golden retriever agenda on him (that's a joke btw. Like they did do that but "golden retriever agenda" isn't a thing)

Ruffnut was far too stupid too. She would NEVER in rtte

Now; let's move on to why the ending is shit

First of all! Toothless is not an Alpha. He is king, yes, but king of Berk's dragons specifically. When he defeated Drago's Alpha, he did not suddenly gain telepathy powers; the dragons under the Alpha's control went to Toothless when he won, and it was a willing decision. They listen to him, yes, but not every dragon will, because HE'S NOT OF THE SPECIES THAT HAS LITERAL DRAGON MIND CONTROL POWERS

That being said!! If Toothless isn't an Alpha, then why the hell did all the dragons leave when he did? And why did all the dragons in the Hidden World immediately bow down to him? Maybe they recognize his status as King (of Berk), but that doesn't mean he's the king of them

There's also no way all the dragons wanted to leave. Just no way. I know I wouldn't!

Then, there's the Death Song problem

There are multiple cannibalistic dragon species. If they go to the Hidden World with the rest, they will try to eat everyone else, and if they can't do that, they'll starve. These dragons can't just change their entire biology and start eating fish, plants, boars, or whatever thing you have in mind. They have to eat other dragons, or they'll die. Sending them all to the Hidden World means that either they'll eat all the other dragons and eventually they'll be one of the few species left standing (highly unlikely) or they'll just go extinct (most probable)

Along with that, there's the fact that many dragons are extremely territorial. if stuck in the same place for the rest of their lives, there will be fights, and dragons don't have medicine! They can only heal naturally, there's no outside help. So many will die, far more than necessary

Now, I do like the ending of the dragons leaving. In the books

And sure, dragons die every day; no one can stop that (no matter how sad this makes Hiccup), but putting them all in a big cave will result in losses that are WAY bigger than necessary and than what they're used to

Plus, what about the species that can't fly? The Speed Stingers, for example? The mutation in RTTE was a thing that only happened with that one group. Only they would be able to reach the Hidden World

I understand that they were trying to end the sagas the same way the books did, but it doesn't work in the movies! Also, (I haven't read all the books yet, it's a work in progress, so correct me if I'm wrong, but) as far as I know, in the books the dragons were basically slaves to the Vikings. It makes sense that they would want to leave. In the movies, it's not like that. Berk's dragons are friends, not servants! They have no reason to want to leave!

And even then, I'm like 99% sure that in the books Toothless still didn't leave Hiccup. And even then, apparently leaving (or when to leave, most likely) was left to be each dragon's choice, not something a random telepathy powered Toothless told them to do

The villain also sucks. I didn't like his design, but I'm not gonna complain about that

It makes no sense for just one person to wipe out an entire species! And besides, Grimmel wasn't scary, wasn't interesting, wasn't anything at all. He's as bland as the Light Fury

Also also also. Toothless would never leave Hiccup for a girl. I'm not talking about a "bros before hoes" thing (I hate that phrase) I'm talking as in, Toothless would never leave Hiccup. Ever. No matter the circumstances. ES MÁS, he wouldn't have let the Light Fury get close to him after she attacked Hiccup! He would've defended him! That's his friend. HIS FRIEND. He's his best bud, his soulmate!!!!!

God the Toothless characterization pissed me off sm

I'd say Hiccup was pretty spot on in the sense that if Toothless wanted to leave and could leave without, like, dying, he would let him; he'd be sad about it, but he would let him. There's other things I don't like about the way he was written, of course, but that wasn't too bad. WHAT WAS BAD IS THE FACT THAT TOOTHLESS LEAVING WAS EVEN A POSSIBILITY IN THE FIRST PLACE

And, to add something: doesn't the "oh I built a new tail and now he can leave forever because it's like basically his old tail! It's like it was never missing at all!" thing feel a bit ableist? Idk that's just a hunch, I'm not disabled so I can't talk about it, but. Just leaving that there

Still, even without the ableism, it's still shitty. The tailfin would never hold that long. It'd need repairs. Things like that can't be permanent, and I know Hiccup is a great inventor, but he's not a god, come on. He can't do everything

Toothless can fly on his own now, yes, but if the tailfin breaks (which is a thing that can happen, either because of an accident or simply because of time), there's no one to fix it. In a place like that, he'll be stranded. It's dangerous!

Also they made Snotlout, Hiccup's cousin in the books, be attracted to Hiccup's mom. HIS AUNT

The HTTYD universe's ecosystem must've been so damaged when all the dragons dissappeared.

"but people wanted to hurt them!" people want to hurt wolves to, but we don't send them all to an isolated cave because it would destroy the ecosystem.

In fact, "dragon" is just a collective word for multiple species so they really fucked themselves with that one.

In conclusion, the third movie was stupid.

[calex-sk]

Rant about how stupid people are on the arcane fandom when it comes to understanding Zaun😷

People on tiktok/twt are SO stupid. That fact that they say Viktor committed genocide bc he hates disabled people??? Do they know that he was getting manipulated by the hexcore or…? CUZ HE JUST WANTED TO HELP CURE ZAUN. He even made a place where he tried to fixed what piltover did to his people. He didn’t know he was killing them in the process!!! But oh well, sometimes I forget that tiktok and twt assume that you calling the council classist and bad is you calling everyone and their fav from piltover bad. Like if you watch arcane with your eyes open and have a bit of understanding about politics you know they never cared about Zaun until something happened to them.

People hate on Viktor for being “rude” to Mel (even called him being racist? which has nothing to do with the conversation they were having😭?) but you guys have to understand that Viktor was always seen as an assistant and couldn’t have a higher position from how the people from Piltover treat him and his disability (the disability thing for the people who didn’t see it at first, watch what Salo says when he gets a wheelchair and how disabled unfriendly Piltover/the council is), he hates the council with reason and we know that even though she later tries to help a bit (by supporting Jayce’s proposal on the council) we also she’s been in the council from long before, making her part of the problem, and therefore, making Viktor difficult to “manipulate��� and make him trust her since he knows how the council was.

Viktor had every reason to be at least a bit rude, especially after Jayce left science for politics (in my opinion what made a lot worse), Viktor knew he didn’t had a lot of time and with Jayce leaving their partnership to become something he never wanted to be made it worse, he didn’t have his support. Viktor fusing with the hexcore and taking shimmer points that, how desperate he was to cure himself. And yes, he was selfish to do that BUT when you have basically a death date, you would be selfish to stop it too. When he accidentally kills Sky with the Hexcore, he realizes that, realized his selfish actions and felt guilty from killing someone who had nothing to do with his problems. The way he told Jayce, in a guilty way, was so that Jayce also understood how bad the hextech was.

Viktor wasn’t bad like people on tiktok and twt make him look, he was simply desperate for a cure, for someone to help him and understand him. And the people who water down Viktor to being “rude” is just pathetic. Like this is more of my opinion but the council had every reason to be hated and to be shown how classist it was BUT the huge problem was that they made them look like they had the same problems as the characters from Zaun. Yes, they all had their problems and ptsd’s but saying that they suffered the same as the people from Zaun??? Not to talk about how they didn’t show how everyone on the council was classist and didn’t care one bit for Zaunites, and the people who ignore it too 💀, like you can like a character or even have one of the Piltover characters as your favorite AND STILL UNDERSTAND HOW THEY WERE. If you ignore why Zaunites hate piltover and the council it’s also partially because they made Piltover not your typical classist council / government, because I understand not noticing that Mel was manipulating Jayce into politics, or how it was a way of her getting something from it because they didn’t made it easy to understand to others, but that’s what she did, obviously she thought it was what was best but it did made damage.

Also saying that Jayce wasn’t affected by it is just stupid since he literally crashed out and left her once he realized he was a political chess piece. (People saying he wasn’t manipulated but simply is a dumb puppy boy is so stupid and shows the double standard that men can get manipulated and hurt by it as long it’s a pretty woman doing it)

Not to talk about how Christian Linke called Zaunites svengalis, to me this just shows how they also couldn’t care less about Zaun and only cared about the rich people from Piltover💀🤡

[epiphainie]

i can't with all these "the show is highlighting tommy's jealousy, they're planting seeds that it will cause problems" takes like bffr. he mentioned being envious over the 118's dynamic twice, sure, but in what world (literally how?) would that cause a relationship problem? do yall expect him to be in cahoots with gerrard behind their back and murder buck to take over his life or something?? like even with the hyperbole aside, i genuinely cannot see how they can turn this into relationship drama without going against everything they showed us with tommy so far

[oreolesbian]

the absolute lack of media literacy from people who haven’t even seen oppenheimer is making my head spin but whatever

[sukibenders]

The way people are becoming anti-children nowadays is really sad. And I'm not talking about people not wanting to have kids of their own, that's fine and something that shouldn't be shamed nor up to someone else to debate. No, I'm talking about the people who adamantly hate these little humans for simply existing, wanting to ban them from spaces due to them having emotional reactions that they are still learning to understand (you know, the kind of lessons that everyone had to learn and figure out at one point). It's gotten to the point where I've even seen these types of people genuinely support children being harmed and deny their hurt under the consensus of "Well then maybe they shouldn't be there," in your average public space. Like, imagine thinking hating on children, people who need assistance and guidance, is something to be proud of.

[butteredfrogs]

vent in tags

[vanillaboyfriend]

that edit is doing better than i expected :) yippee

[vacantgodling]

not to be weird and sappy on main, but frfr i'm so glad i have found a community of people who think my work is good

[oifaaa]

you hate the Jason parents retcon? Me too; I've never seen anyone else like the circus parents more

I kinda feel bad now bc I meant the Jason's parents retcon of them going from victims of their circumstance to poor people bad sorry anon I'm sure there are people who prefer circus parents #2 I'm just not one of them (if you do sound off so anon knows they're not alone)

[tanicus-caesareth]

guarana drama, damage control

[halsaph]

They should've just let Jason be a part of the rogues gallery

[i-c-u-p]

going to start using this platform like twitter again and by that i mean posting relentlessly and going on rants in the tags

[sungwanns]

what we could’ve had with spencer and jj blah blah blah ELLE what we could’ve had with spencer and ELLE !! THATS what we should be mourning

[tempe-brennans]

i hate living here

[hauntingblue]

Justice for jolyne wdym emporio defeated pucci