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ultimately i think my insistence on aro positivity honestly is as much a political stance as a personal one.
when i say aro positivity is crucial and that i dislike doomer-ist posts that express sentiments like 'I hate being aro so much I wish I was dead instead’ it's not because I don’t think there can and should be a space for negativity and acknowledging self-hate, or the many ways being aromantic can really suck sometimes. i find that to be very important!
that being said. there is smth here about how self-hate posts are sometimes just arophobia that we inflict on ourselves. and when we put that out into the ether it (intentionally or not) can become arophobia that we inflict on other members of the community. i think there absolutely needs to be a place for negativity and the expression of anger and frustration and self loathing even - these are all good things to talk about because these are things that we experience. that being said, it can also be genuinely upsetting and triggering to people to have what is essentially arophobia shown to them and then have that be validated by other aspec people. your personal thoughts can affect your wider community on a level you may not anticipate. and i understand it i truly do! it took me so long to be able to recover from accepting being aroace - it threw my entire world off kilter and made me question everything about my place in the world.
but my insistence on aro joy and positivity is because ultimately i do believe that building is at the core essence of it all. that ultimately discussions and the purpose of community should be about construction, not destruction. and this is both a personal and a political stance. talking about how much you hate yourself and cultivating online discussions/spaces where negativity about aspec identity is the main and only theme is destructive - if that’s where we let the conversation end. these thoughts can and should be used as a vehicle to look for a path forward!
joy and positivity create a space where the focus can become on forging a path forward, on construction, on community building instead of tearing ourselves and others down with negative thoughts. it’s not productive or healthy when it stops at a place of negativity - it becomes actively destructive to the essence of community.
and i do think that this is especially poignant considering the fact that being any kind of queer, but especially aromantic (and/or asexual) means forging a path for yourself and making your own happiness where there is no obvious way forward. our communities exist mostly online (right now, anyway), there is little recognition of our existence in the real world, the effects of amatonormativity are both pervasive and actively dehumanising, and there are legal, economic and social structures in place actively making our lives more difficult. yes that all sucks! it’s good to acknowledge that. we need to in order to change it. but more importantly, that’s not the end. we are still here and our happiness, our future is for us to determine. even if we can’t change the laws or society, loving yourself and understanding aromanticism as a political identity (as well as personal), as a radical worldview, and as a protest against amatonormativity is essential for both community and personal well being. the personal is political.
tldr. i guess my point is that as a community, we should focus on building, improving, and nurturing ourselves and each other (construction) as opposed to destruction. we should recognise aromanticism and asexuality as political identities as well as personal ones and rely on community and self-love in the absence of anything else as a form of protest and political power. destruction (the recognition of everything that is wrong) is essential as a starting point - but where do we go from there? we rebuild.
#aromantic#aro positivity#aspec#aroace#aro#aromantic joy#arospec#when i saw its important to 'love' yourself - pls understand i am in no way trying to exclude loveless aros from this#that was just the easiest way to express what i meant! when i say 'love' i mean positivity/respect/happiness. etc. i just used that word bc#it works for ME which is why i said it. but feel free to replace it with whatever works for you! <2#also sorry if not everything im saying makes total sense i tried my best#this is something ive been thinking about for a while and have been struggling to articulate#i maybe should have read some theory for this abt community building but im too tired + overwhelmed w school reading right now so sorry.#if anyone has additions on that front though please do add them#also ngl im kinda scared to post this. i hope i explained what i mean well enough. like i get wanting to vent and express self hate BUT.#there is nuance to this and it is not unilaterally healthy i think. also i dont see any other online community fostering the normalisation#of selfhate the way the aspec one does! which makes me feel weird abt it especially.#anyway. this is basically my personal philosophy towards aromanticism#mossy posts#⚙️
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The Green brothers are doing effective altruism better than maybe 95% of people who identify online as effective altruists.
#I know it's cringe to be into vlogbrothers in 2024 but I'm incredibly impressed by JG's swerve into fighting global health inequities#and last week's news about their commitment to funding TB prevention was really cool#also I have a lot of respect for creators who seem able to continue to build online communities focused around optimism and trying#to do good in the world in a way that seems genuine--because I've realized how much intentional effort that must take#when social media writ large seems to skew towards either reactionaries or doom and gloom#VB was formed in an era where everyone had a lot more earnest hope in the potential of the internet and (with multiple evolutions)#they've kept going through a seismic change in the way we relate to social media and the creator economy. it's interesting#also I think it's interesting JG is doing his best work 10+ years out from his peak fame. life lesson there maybe
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next year's resolution is to reach out more & try my best to find communities where i feel like i belong
#reaching out more even if it is online!#lizzie and yenna i was going through our messages :(#i miss talking to uuuu#and just being more present here in general.#now talking irl#i told myself i'd have lots of friends when i moved cities etc.#i have a few from college but i wanted to expand my horizons#but why does it feel so hard to find community?#like i can't think of anything for free that i can genuinely enjoy#and build friendships..
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hate to be cynical on main but it really do be like this every single time a new "not like social media" art platform comes out of the woodwork and then people migrate to it in droves just to find out the only other people using it are other artists that they're competing with for any scrape of viewership from an increasingly oversaturated internet that didn't exist when we were teenagers in 2009
#idk who needs to hear this but deviantart wasn't all that#i know because i was there LOL#people got doxxed and hate crime'd on DA all the fucking time#that feeling of having a 'tight knit community' that you miss was just weirdos on the internet having a good time talking to each other#and a lot of people were also having a real BAD time#nowadays every online conversation is quietly prefaced with the expectation that it'll turn into a new follower or shop sale#so people just aren't willing to invest in long-term community building anymore just for the sake of having a community#it's just “will this site help me grow my career?” no the fuck it won't no single site has ever done that for anyone jfc#the internet was also just a lot smaller back then#you were a “big deal” if you had even just 100 followers#sorry to those who aren't ready to hear this but we can't have what the internet was in 2009 again#enshittification
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Creators I love you but it's time to wake up
Among rumors about our tumblr user data being sold off to Midjourney/Generative AI, recent Extremely transphobic events (that have been ongoing) coming to a head, another extremely concerning internet censorship bill being pushed in upper levels of government, and a general air of frustration over how the site belongs to and is operated by perhaps the second stupidest CEO (second only to twitters own) of our age, I'm very done with the last few vestiges of what the old internet held for artists.
And if you're reading this, you probably are too.
I know we're tired. We are all tired. It is not always viable to pack up shop and move, again and again and again.
From tumblr to twitter to anywhere else we've ever grown up posting, things no longer work. Our audiences are kneecapped by aggressive and hostile algorithms, our reach is abysmal - if we aren't shadow-banned or silenced for one (transphobic) reason or another, we're thrust into an ever growing pit of hostility where the only thing that drives clicks is fighting and contention.
We're tired. We're so fucking tired. We aren't businesses, we aren't content mills, we cannot keep this pace that modern social media has set for us, to wring every ounce of creativity out of us to profit from and leave us rotting.
The key to staying afloat here, and I cannot stress this enough, is to stay connected to your peers.
Pack up and move as units if you must. Exodus from the sites that are killing us. Push your entire friend group of artists to move from one site to the next that promises you a kinder experience.
Art drives movements, it drives change, it is all that encompasses being human. If you take that away from the shitty places, they will be left with nothing but a cesspit of inhumanity and the people who follow you will be more incentivized than ever to move with you.
Yes, this is terrifying. There are no guarantees. There never was, and never are, and never will be.
But stay connected. Stay human.
Support each other and be willing to hold hands and jump when we all - as a group - need to jump from the flames we're all trying to convince ourselves wont kill us before rescue comes.
Rescue isn't coming, rescue will be found hand in hand with each other. I'm offering you my hand, please take it. There's always a new start, there are always helping hands reaching for you. You have to look up from the doom-scroll long enough to see and take them.
#art communities#art community#teo talks#sorry I have a Lot of opinions about posting art online I've been doing this since I was 14 and I'm 28 this year#I have watched the rise and fall of social media titans and you have to understand the ONLY thing that will keep you afloat#is keeping connected to your peers#we have to move as units and we have to stay together and we have to support each other#your following is not stability. your friendships are.#thats why you hear about networking. thats ceo talk for friendships. connections.#you have to have enough connections to build your own support web on the chance that everything goes to shit. yes its hard work. it sucks.#but it is a necessity. twitter isn't getting better. its not going back to how it was. neither is DA or tumblr. its not happening.#If you put all your eggs in one or two precarious baskets and both fall. you will be shit out of luck! thats reality#there is hope to be found but you have to be realistic and understand that you NEED to build up a presence elsewhere. even if its hard.#I want to help you if I can!!!! bluesky is a really solid twitter alternative!!!#ive heard good things about cohost as a tumblr alternative!!!!#sheezy and inkblot are both indie sites currently being developed by and for other creatives. support them!#they won't be perfect until - and UNLESS - you do!#anyways sorry I will step off my soapbox now Im just frustrated with the state of everything
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sometimes it's like. i don't really wanna have an opinion about this in public because i don't feel that strongly. but a lot of people are having ill informed opinions about it and i don't feel i can offer correct information without also an opinion. so i just have to suffer
#this is about nanowrimo lmao#having been involved with nano for fifteen years i can promise it was always a website/organised thing#and there WERE reasons for the website to exist and the community of the forums was a huge part of it#now they totally fucked that up a few years back but originally it was a massive part of it#especially bc when i joined nano twitter was like... barely a thing?#there were so few ways of finding a writing community at the time#very few wordcount trackers you didn't have to build yourself in excel etc#it had reasons to exist at the beginning. i would argue it has much less reason to exist now#but it wasn't a subsequent 'cashing in' on a concept#anyway.#the reason i don't have strong opinions about the current fuckery beyond an eye roll#is that i already walked away from being invested in nano because there has been So. Much. Fuckery#this is a nail in a coffin I'd already accepted was buried#and i get that people are more likely to care about the ai thing#as like. symbolic of wider societal issues or whatever#vs grooming and harassment and racism and firing all the MLs#bc that affects people in the community much more than people inside it#but. look. if you're gonna expound upon it#consider that nanowrimo started in 1999 and forums were THE way to connect with people online#and the website as it grew in the 00s primarily revolved around the forums#and continued to do so through the 2010s#and that no it wasn't just a social media challenge bc social media didn't exist yet#there IS a reason nanowrimo has a centralised website and organisation#it wouldn't exist without them#bc I can't be arsed to explain this again#*more than people OUTSIDE it
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Went on a transandrophobia truther blog and instantly saw this ..
1) love the slight of hand where he says "being trans" instead of actually identifying any positionality or god forbid mentioning WOMANHOOD as a type of positionality in his post which allows him to call trans women men and completely disregard the experience of the closested trans WOMAN. Telling that your argument hinges on "after transitioning to a man I am exactly the same as a woman undercover as a man"
2) just say you're not on T and you don't know anyone who is. Like as someone who's passed as male on an off for my whole life and now fully passes as male all the time thanks to T I low key snorted reading this... Liiike let's be for real here passing as a man (and doubly so if u are binary and have the pronouns to match) and passing gives you privilege out the fucking wazoo and I literally think about it every time I leave the house, meet new people, take blue collar jobs, interact w people on public transit, walk around at night, go to gay clubs, bond w male overseers, look for roommates, etc. This is obviously extremely racialized as much as it is gendered, but there is literally not a single "privilege" I had as a girl (that was assumed to be a guy 50-70% of the time) that I lost as a guy.
3) Also how do trans men "inherently defy patriarchal manhood" I literally know a trans guy who went to jail for domestic violence against a woman like trans men are incredibly capable of accessing and enacting patriarchy and thinking ourselves justified in accessing patriarchal homosociality. Like we are literally becoming men and we don't just magically exit the patriarchal society because we aren't the men at the top of the make food chain.... a la R.W. Connel. Being trans men means we lose some for being trans but we win some because we are men. Like gay men are frequently denied their masculinity but it would be dodo brained to act like gay men have no male homosociality they can access or that no gay man has ever accessed male homosociality. Like if u believe that you actually don't know any gay history Attttt Alllllll 😭 like genuinely. We also earn more money per dollar than women in our same gender modality, that doesn't sound like "inherently defying patriarchal manhood" to me that sounds actually like a pretty typical social positionality for oppressed and marginalized men. Like in my own friend groups, at school, and in my music and promotions scene being an (openly trans) man actually has granted me actually a lot of homosociality that I can draw on.
#Mine#Transandrophobia truthers#God everytime I scratch one second below the surface on this it's just a rich topology of fucking garbage and barely disguised hatred#Of trans women like these guys genuinely see trans women as mortal fucking enemies who they are entitled to as allies but since t women#Wont just bow down and refuse to become “gender egalitarians” instead of feminists instead of considering their position in the community o#Good faith engaging w trans women in their community to build allyship and unity they just say#well we could have had unity in our#Community but all these WOMEN insist on calling me a MAN when I am the true ontological woman here#so I guess we can't be a community and I have to dedicate my whole online presence to fighting women in my own community 💔
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An update on how things are going: we've hit 60% of our fundraising goal in just 5 days! We're so touched by all the notes of support, encouragement, and enthusiasm for this project. <3
#Lets Build a Gay library Together!#queer liberation library#qll#please continue to share widely!#with you queer friend circles online and irl#especially if you know any allies with money to burn#ask them to put their money where their mouth is and show up for the queer community!
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is there any hope for me at all if im a virgin at 23? if i tried hard enough i could probably lose it- i wipe my ass and know how to read, which puts me ahead of most men- but my gender dysphoria gives me such a massive disconnect from myself and my body that i dont think i know myself well enough to be a good partner to someone, either in a short-term sexual encounter or a long-term romantic relationship. and honestly, i just dont want to have sex as a man, but i lack the material conditions to transition, so im stuck. i feel like its a moral failing that im a virgin this late in my life, like no matter what my actual feelings or opinions are, im no better than the most terminally online neet. i dont know if i even actually want sex or if i just want to have it so i can feel equal to my peers. idk. im sorry for dumping this in your inbox but i like how mean you are and im kinda hoping that youre just gonna tell me to kill myself lol
Took me a while to compose the response I wanted for this but I want to start off by saying there’s no wrong or right age to have sex for the first time, especially for us lgbts. Shit’s hard both out there and inside our heads and it doesn’t help that there’s immense societal expectations to lose your v card young. I have friends who are several years older than me and still waiting or they don’t experience attraction or they just want to focus on shit other than their sex lives and no matter what your reason is for not having lost it, it’s perfectly fine. Under no circumstances should you take my dumb fuckin horndog ass any sort of barometer for where you are in regards to your relationship with gender. Honestly, I know it feels like it sucks that you haven’t had any sexual experiences but from the way you described your gender issues that may be for the best, I have a lot of friends who hadn’t reconciled their identity yet and rushed into sexual relationships because they felt they needed to or it was expected and it really hurt them or set them back, I think inside the struggles you’ve been having is a good awareness you may not be in the right space right now for sex.
Sex is a tough one because everyone’s relationship to it is vastly different. I talk a lot about casual relationships and short flings but it’s not a one size fits all either so don’t let the way I talk about it influence how you want to approach your sex life, now or in the future.
Lastly, I’m not gonna tell you to kill yourself because despite appearances I am a less caustically hostile rude asshole now than I have been on here, we could charitably call it personal growth. You’re in a rough place in your life, just like a lot of our community, and that’s both perfectly understandable and not at all a moral failing. Ultimately, if you’re looking for a guide on sex I’m a bad person to come to because I have what I think for most people would be a pretty unhealthy relationship with it. It works for me and when it doesn’t I seek out longer, more serious relationships, but each person is different. Focus on yourself and doing the things you need to do to become more comfortable with yourself first and you’ll find that it unlocks sexuality in a huge way. For me, that unlocking came in high school when I realized I really fit in well with the freewheeling casual stuff, but like I’m sure I’ve said in here before, it’s not a one size fits all. You’re doing fine
#good on you with the ass wiping by the way women love a clean asshole#one thing that really helped was getting more in touch with my in person communities#both as a way of building some other lgbt contact and also really coming to terms with and defining my identity#I’m still not in a place where I could transition physically or socially (they don’t like tranny public school teachers)#but I am more comfortable with myself than ever#if you don’t really have a local community you can connect with try finding one that you gel with online#you’re gonna find that it helps to regularly speak and interact with people who can understand your framework and state of mind#I wish you the best anon#I’m sure this long ass response probably isn’t helpful and that’s because I’m bad at this shit#but I just wanna end this by saying you don’t ever need to be so hard on yourself#you’re fine#shit is weird and hard and takes time and it can be ugly#and you’re allowed to take the time to navigate through that
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begging cosplayers to look at fursuit tutorials because like. why are you reinventing shit. why are you taking the hard way around. furries have had moving parts & quadsuits & furring & buckethead & body part tutorials for years. "how do i make moving cat ears" furries can tell you. if you let them. take my hand
#''but furries are cringe!!'' you're cringe for making fun of a predominantly queer & ND community#that has revolutionized cosplay btw & put those techniques online for free for you to try out#next time you're like ''aw man i gotta make antlers from scratch'' or ''how do i make a moving tail'' furries can help you with that#it's like needing to build a bookshelf & instead of asking a guy who already knows you wing it because ''carpenters are cringe''#my guy you are dressing up as a big cat. that's the subgenre of cosplay known as fursuiting. listen to furries. they are experts#also if you need brain surgery or help with coding or anything really furries can help with that too#they have the range
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guess whos not going in at all this week, actually
#MY MANAGER EMAILED LIKE 2 HOURS B4 I HAD TO GO IN#she finally changed my schedule (1 day) to the night shift today#(i emailed her to be safe just kinda casually reaffirming im going in at the new time & then asking if any other shifts wanted 2 be changed#bcs that sounds great to me whstever option she goes with#she ignored that question & i get a new email from her asking if i completed a training. lets called it DOC#basically a long time ago she said 'i will send you DOC instructions soon' .. a few days pass and i get three 50 paged packets#one is called NAVIGATING DOC#im like oh ok cool that must be the DOC training shes talking abt bcs the other 2 packets were abt various trainings#NAH BRUH. APPARENTLY THE DAY IM SUPPOSED TO GO IN. SHE MESSAGES ME SOME ENTIRELY ALIEN PROGRAM#and is like 'u completed this right? cus if u didnt u cant come in today.'#LIKE?? MAYBE I WOULDA IF U SENT THE SHIT#but it's also like. dam i shouldve emailed prompting her to send what she said she would n clarifying BUT FUCK#WHY DO I GOTTA?? IM NOT THE MANAGER#she literally told me the name of the program rn thru email so i type it in and see like four hour long modules to complete#mind u i aint never even been informed a WHISPER abt this new program. nothings even labeled DOC TRAINING#but my struggle is. was i notified this?? and i just didnt see??? was i supposed to clarify with her what the DOC training was exactly??#the only thing ive heard abt doc training b4 this is 'i need to send u DOC training soon' in EMAIL. so i expected an alert#abt THE DOC TRAINING... in an EMAIL notification. WHAT THE HELL IS THIS#idk man#i dont even care bro like im busy as hell & the work is just to build clinic hours so i dont care abt the money factor#it's just like. can we get this first day jitters thing over with already?? im so over this bro#yaddayadda i emailed her an apology n ill be on that ASAP shit. but i did let her know i am basically justnnow seeing this site#n if there was any email or notif that couldve/tried to inform me of its existence 2 pls let me know / figure out how to find it#so the issue doesnt occur again & i dont have to keep botherinher which im so srry of bcs med is stress n shes just trying to get by#but still bro im a lil miffed bcs she probably thinks im stupid now and now im wondering if i AM#bcs WDYM ONLINE MODULES. AINT NOBODY SAID SH IT EVEN ABT THE EXISTENCE OF THEM!!! i wouldve pressed harder 4 clarification#if i knew it was an ONLINE MODULE i had to look out for on some randomass site i didnt even know the name of until now#instead of the EMAIL UVE BEEN 'COMMUNICATING' WITH ME ON#ARREGHHHHHHHH IM NOT STUPID. I SWEAR IM NOT STUPID FUCCK MY BAKA LIFE
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the same chronically online leftists who talk about "building community" as a blanket solution to every issue, but always bitch about emotional labor or unpaid domestic labor don't realize that a foundational aspect of building community is volunteer work. lmfao.
#like i dare the average chronically online leftist to interact with the community they're always talking about#i'm not articulating this well bc it's 5:30 am i haven't slept#because obviously unpaid labor is a separate argument im not a capitalist wagecuck#but building community involves volunteering your time and your effort for no personal benefit#and somehow this is a foreign concept to those who wanna say community is the solution to every problem#like if you think that then put your phone down and go volunteer somewhere#that post about how a conservative person helping in a soup kitchen is doing more for their community than leftists talking about theory#on the internet is so relevant lol#and these are the same people calling for a revolution#if you want revolution you're gonna have to actually leave your bedroom and talk to people you don't like and god forbid...work#like do you think that if the revolution comes you're going to help by 'spreading awareness' while marginalized people continue to do all#the real work???
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I don't know if i can properly articulate my frustrations with the all the "get offline" rhetoric re: online activism and advocacy, specifically surrounding covid and I'm confident that it's already been said better by someone else, but I'm still gonna try.
do people not understand that online is all some people have? it's the community they can access. it's the activism and advocacy they CAN do? for a myriad of reasons. but most notably because offline community is UNSAFE for them?
the dismissal of online advocacy and community and activism misses the mark so hard and is deeply ableist and it sucks so much when the most trusted sources of leftist organizing and education let themselves fall into that same trap. it's bad enough that they've decided that covid (and long covid) are no longer concerns for THEM personally, but it's entirely next level when they also dismiss what people are able to build for themselves in the rubble left behind.
if what you mean is "seek other voices and opinions and thoughts" then SAY that.
yes, I used to be deep in my one little corner of the internet and held some deeply isolating and radical (not in a good way) beliefs. But i sought a new home for myself (here) and I've been able to inform what I see there with what I see there with other things i intentionally seek out and I can build a well-rounded belief system accordingly.
but i didn't need to "get offline" or "touch grass" for that.
#i'm SO FRUSTRATED Y'ALL#there are so many other reasons that someone might need to build their community exclusively online and they are included here too#nobody rants#online activism#online advocacy#ableism#covid#long covid#disability justice
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you guys have got to get better at talking to strangers
I don't even mean like. being more skilled at it. i mean you have to do it. you have to talk to your cashier, to the old woman you cross on the pavement, to the guy waiting in the queue for the gig in front of you, to the teenager deciding between books at the bookstore.
not all the time; you don't have to constantly be talking. but you have to speak to the people around you i am begging you
#our only port of call for communication cannot be online#it's not just the surveillance state but also the echo chamber it creates for you#and the algorithm choosing who you interact with#community building#organizing#us politics
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im not gonna hijack that post but theres such an odd fixation i feel in general on the idea that you HAVE to argue and clap back and debate with every single person you see online (even knowing most of them do this in bad faith) and its so. are you not tired. do you know that when ur arguing out in the open like thst ESPECIALLY if you're not part of the group being targeted ur likely just exposing the people you know who ARE part of these minority groups to more vitrol that theyre likely already experiencing more than enough of and would like to avoid as much as possible. please block and move on more often.
edit: idk why this is getting attention all of a sudden but please dont be a clown in my tags or replies.
#cliffnotes/.txt#and also if it can be done in a way where that friend or mutual doesnt have to be exposed just send em a quick message on who to block#like xyz is racist and i saw em floating around so u should block them...#smthn to that degree idk#a lot of the ppl i block i never interact with.#add more people that u see having bad faith takes often to filters too#make your time online less miserable for you and the ppl u care abt#also i didnt even get into the fact that ppl are so ready to lile#push being agsinst xyz group more just to hate them than to care about the people affected#its always hate terfs but not love trans women#its always hate racists but dont love black and brown folk#hate misogynists but dont love women#its a lot of that and its odd#you have to care about and support others too.#you cant build a community off hate alone
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