#bruce needs to be on that one show
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god bruce fucking hates talking to wayne execs and financial advisors
#i cannot stress enough that he is a terrible businessman right now#he wants nothing to do with wayne co he wants nothing to do with anyone who 'works for him'#he wants the batman. he wants gotham. he wants 'justice' which he THINKS he can get simply by being the batman#i always think about his conversation with selina#where she literally clocks his privilege and calls him on it#because he turns his scope too wide thinking he's got the details in frame#when in fact he's got no idea#his relationship with his brother is beginning to help but only barely right now#had they the chance i think selina COULD have influence on him but that ain't happening LMAO#so right now as i have said too many times before. he's got bat glasses on#bruce needs to be on that one show#where the rich boss works as the part time employee for a week or whatever#it's always so funny to me how he claims gotham as his#and how well he knows the city (because he does know the city)#and yet he doesn't know SHIT. not REALLY.#like pack it up white savior complex get a real job DAMN#one day......one day he will become Bruce Wayne.#but right now he's just bruce. and he's barely that. he's barely the batman!!!! it'll be his four year anniversary coming up actually#of being the bat :o)#how cute........pathetic little guy
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once again thinking about jason as duke’s robin. he’s ~4 years younger than jason, and that puts him at 8-12 during Jason’s time as robin. that’s prime time to get attached to your local kid vigilante before your own life goes downhill.
and if we try to keep duke’s meeting with bruce in zero year + duke’s age (so he can remember the meeting and hold that conversation with bruce), he has to be around 8. if he starts following batman through the news at that time because of the mess that just happened, the robin he sees is probably jason. I’ve literally connected the dots
#we are not of course keeping zero year itself. what a mess.#maybe smth very similar so it’s still the riddler causing mass chaos!#the titans so we actually keep the no robin physically present in the story part the same#look. if we want zero year convo we need to give bruce a robin at the time. it could be 17-18yr old who’s not even in gotham bc he’s with#by time tim shows up he’s already attached to jason#and then steph’s robin suddenly for a bit but only for a bit. and then tim comes back but he’s in bludhaven for a while#i do think duke would think steph is really cool tho. and they reasonably couldve met as civilians#and then duke’s busy bouncing around foster homes the streets and looking for his parents#i wanted to talk about how much i love it and the tags are just be working out a timeline for post crisis events & post flashpoint ones (an#some of duke’s important events are related to things which are no longer canon. such is life. let’s do our best based on ages)#duke thomas#jason todd
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Dick and Tim would be REALLY good on reality tv,,, they're both charismatic (please do not forget that Tim makes friends/allies easily just like Dick can), handsome, CLEVER, and know how to play to a persona. i think they'd go on shows for fun and to de-stress. like one too many things piss them off in their daily lives and they could pretty much get a vacation from it just to go on these shows. no one in the family can talk to them and they get to annoy people, crack jokes, and get fun puzzles in the form of a literal puzzle or figuring out social dynamics of the other players.
sometimes they go on shows by themselves but mostly use it as a brotherly bonding activity. if it's a show where they can be a duo they're GOING to do it. and they're going in to play to a storyline, not to win. they don't need the money, they don't need the publicity, they just want to have fun. sometimes if they figure out that everyone on the show sucks and they get competitive, they'll win. but mostly their goal is "how can we make the funniest plot line look the most natural." or something like that. i know a producer LOVES to see them coming. i bet EVERYONE tunes in when they're on a show because they're fucking hilarious even if half of what they say are inside jokes. the rest of the family watches and they KNOW what those shits are pulling, they have betting pools where they guess what the two are gonna do next, they're the FIRST to make memes for both internet and for the family group chats.
one time they convinced Bruce to go (it's been many a years since he really had to play up the Brucie role, cause he's a dad now and the older he gets the more people expect him to mellow out, and even back when he was full Brucie, reality TV wasn't his thing). it was one of those survival based shows where you come is as a team and try to win together. Bruce got lost in the woods after going on a hike. The camera men literally lost him and Tim and Dick were playing it up for the camera. Dick cried and invited the other teams to a funeral. Tim had a speech that was basically "I think he's fine but this is my perfect opportunity to embarrass my dad with stories." The producers were like "we fucking killed Bruce Wayne oh my fucking god" and Bruce shows up at the funeral like "oh what a beautiful service my boys are so great." They won by pure luck and circumstances and they were actively TRYING to lose that game. They were gobsmacked at the end and everyone uses the moment they looked at each other in confusion and shock as reaction gifs
#their fans make edits and it genuinely haunts the rest of family if they get them on their fyp#tho if steph gets an edit of tim she sends it to all of tim's friends#erinwantstowrite#tim drake#dick grayson#bruce wayne#reality tv#i'd write this fic for fun because im weirdly fixated with shows like this#i'd also love to write an au where at least one of them is an actor#on a really dramatic show#i think i need more fics exploring the Wayne side of their lives#for the funsies
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A Persuasive Argument - dpxdc
"Great!" Danny says, clapping his hands together to get everyone's attention. The dinner table falls silent as everyone looks towards him. It's a full house today and, honestly, Danny's a little nervous. "I'm sure you're all wondering why I gathered you here today."
"It's dinnertime. In our house." Duke mutters, while doing a very bad job of concealing his yawn. He holds his fork poised over the braised beef, but, just like everyone else, still looks towards Danny before tucking in. It's intriguing enough to wait.
"Yeah, no one misses Alfie's dinner." Dick says, with a brilliant smile that Danny can't help but return.
"Precisely! What better time to talk to you all than when you're all actually here!"
"Wait, I thought you came round to work on our English essays?" Tim asks, blinking owlishly.
"I'm afraid I've lured you here under false pretences, Tim."
"This is where I live."
"I would still really appreciate help on that essay though, I mean, what the hell is Hamlet even about? I just don't get that old time-y language, like 'Hark! A ghost hath killed me!' - absolute rubbish, what does that even mean?"
"The ghost never kills anyone in Hamlet, he's there to tell Hamlet that he was murdered. Have you actually read it?"
"No, but it sounds like you have. Tim, I want this guy to help me with my essay instead. I know for a fact that you haven't read Hamlet, either."
"So? We don't need Jason, I've read the Sparknotes."
"Hi Jason, I'm Danny, pleasure to meet you, summarise Hamlet in three sentences or less."
"Am I auditioning to help you write your essays? I can't believe you’ve gone through your whole school life without reading it, it’s good!"
"Hamlet, along with a number of other classics, was banned in our house because it portrayed ghosts as intelligent and sympathetic beings rather than evil, animalistic beasts. I didn’t even get to see The Muppet's Christmas Carol until last year with Tim! It was surprisingly good, and I hate Christmas because everyone always argued and it sucked. But we're getting off topic. I—"
"No, no, please go back to that, because what the fu—"
"Boys, please." Bruce interrupts, looking to the world as if he wants to hang his head in his hands. "Danny, you were about to say something?"
"Oh, yeah, Mr. Wayne! Thanks!"
"Please, call me Bruce."
"Well, that very succinctly brings me to my point, because I'd actually really like to call you dad."
Nobody says a word. Nobody even blinks, all as shocked as the other, watching open-mouthed as Danny pulls his laptop out from beside his chair. Bruce can definitely feel a headache coming on.
"Before you say anything, I've prepared a 69 slide PowerPoint presentation on why you, Bruce Wayne, should adopt me, Danny Last-Name-Pending. Please save your questions, comments, and verdict until the end, thank you."
#dpxdc#batpham#i forget - can we tag the parent fandoms? w/e#immediately alfred's like: while i do appreciate your initiative may i suggest it wait until after dinner?#and danny - who has barely eaten proper homecooked food ever - takes one bite and then absolutely wolfs down the whole lot#after he's finished he's like 'bear with - I've got to add that to the 'Reasons I Would Like to Live Here' section'#danny's powerpoint has tailored sections for each batfam member with lists of reasons why they'd get along#my au thoughts on this is that the fentons disowned danny when he told them he was phantom#and that this is after the ultimate enemy - wherein which he allied himself with the JL to fight against dan#(which didnt really work at all - BUT he knows some of their identities now INCLUDING batman's)#so one of the main reasons why he'd be a great fit is that he knows their vigilante status anyway so they don’t need to worry about secrets#dick just turns to tim like 'he’s your friend. he learnt this from you.'#tim: 'i didn't tell him our identities!! i would never!!'#dick: 'no i know that. it's the stalker tendancies. it's baby tim all over again'#tim: scandalised gasp#they all eat dinner in silence just super subdued and in shock and sending glances to bruce and danny#duke like: 'so i know I'm the last one in the family but like... this isn't how it normally happens right? did any of you make powerpoints?#tim gets all shifty because he absolutely did make a powerpoint he just never actually showed it to anyone#everyone stares at tim because they all know. it was in one of bab's blackmail files she has on him#damian's slide has danny offering to throw down at any time. 'tim says you like to prove yourself with your skills?#how about a real challenge? if i beat you then you have to vote yes to adopting me!'#damian is in two minds about accepting because... 1) look at him damian could take danny in his sleep! but#2) on the off chance that he does win... damian does not want any more brothers#(he takes the bet and its a suprisingly fun fight - and while he'll never say this... he would vote yes even without the wager)#on one of danny's slides there's a picture of ellie: you'll also get my clone sister! two children for the price of one!!#uhhh.... thats it now - I've been having fun with this haha#spent all day with the 'ive lured you here under false pretences' 'danny i live here' line in my head haha#anyway enjoy!!!!!! this was fun#i wanna make these slides so bad
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Garage Sale
Well, when the Fentons decided to have a garage sale Danny didn't expect many to be interested. His parents were looking for a way to get money quickly to build more stuff, and he jokingly suggested they could sell some inventions, they took it seriously (Jazz made sure to remove all the lethal inventions, she tried with the ones that might be risky but then they wouldn't sell anything).
Danny knew his parents were strange yes, but he wasn't sure that justified millionaires in his backyard. Millionaires, he'd like to clarify, had never set foot in Amity Park before. He raised an eyebrow at the sight of Bruce Wayne and his sons checking out the appliances. None of them seemed to be interested in the "ghosts" but they hadn't backed down from taking some things either.
So yes, Danny was suspicious. Of course he had made sure the inventions in the sale were safe (although unlike Jazz, he simply decided to make them safe, a few modifications here and there), but the fact that they looked genuinely interested made him uneasy.
Were the Waynes interested in hunting ghosts?
He decided to try something, he crossed eyes with one of them and let his green eyes show before looking away, the boy looked alarmed. He approached him and asked, but Danny feigned ignorance, commenting that all the inventions were green and maybe he had been confused by the reflection (to be fair, most of his parents' inventions were green because of the ecto).
For his part, Bruce had received an alert from Justice League Dark, it seemed they had detected a strange energy, similar to magic, so the bats set out to investigate. They didn't expect to find a garage sale in a house in the middle of nowhere (Amity Park wasn't even marked on the fucking map). Nor did they expect advanced technology or mad scientists.
Bruce decided to pretend he had stumbled into town as "Brucie Wayne" and buy a few things. He shuddered to see that many inventions worked with Lazarus water. Jason, who had strangely agreed to come along, was also upset about the son of the scientists.
Bruce questioned whether he had found a family of villains in the making.
#dpxdc#The Fentons needed money#so they did a garage sale#JLD detected the ecto because it was out of the protected lab#and all the inventions together caused energy to be detected#The Batfamily investigated#Amity is a quiet town#if you're not actively looking for it then it won't show up#That's why no one believes it exists#The Amity Parkers could be descendants of the elves and nobody would know it#dp x dc#dc x dp#Danny gave Jason a cardiac arrest#Jason knows the color of pit madness everywhere and he thinks Danny has it#Bruce plans to take the weapons to study them#The Fentons are just happy that their sale was a success#They have no idea that the dark knight considers them to be future villains#Danny would be offended if he found out#The Batfamily believes that the Fentons found a way to manipulate the lazarus water and that is a risk#They hope Ra doesn't find out#They are right but wrong at the same time#The Fentons work with pure ectoplasm#not junk ectoplasm.
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N2 au Brucey babe!! He really doesnt change much tbh, it's mostly just an outfit change plus his gropes about his brother would be a bit different in that they're extended to all of them and not just JD, theyre just mostly centered around JD.
Cuz from his side he knew all of his brothers were alive at least Floyd, JD, and Branch. He just couldn't leave Vacay island, at first due to fear, and then he started a family there (first kid was accidental).
He'd heard rumors about JD and the others due to JD traveling all over the place and hed sent put the postcard as a way of extending an olive branch and then nobody showed up :/
Also Bruce's outfit change is purely for me I hate drawing his canon vest lmao
#my art#trolls#dreamworks trolls#trolls 3#trolls bruce#n2 au#trolls au#not the only one au#bruce didnt really need to be changed#but i did want to add a bit to him#when he left the first place he went was vacay island#he only planned to stay for a little bit and then head back#but days turned to weeks which turned to months and then years#eventually he met and fell in love with brandy#they were planning on leaving vacay island together to visit his brothers#brandy had volunteered to essentially be his shield in case bergens showed up#but then bruce jr happened#and then the restaurant happened as a way to support the new family#so bruce felt stuck#so he was like if i cant go there ill bring them here#and sent jd a postcard which got very misinterpreted#so both sides thinks the other just doesnt want to see them#and then 20 years later his brothers do show up but only because they need something#and theyre doing it on behalf of jd who he assumes for like the first 30 sec was too much of a coward to say it himself#then he finds out the details and hes like oh shit okay-#and theyre fine but the anger and salt is still festering#idk if there would be a climatic argument like there was in the film#if anything it would just be them trauma dumping on eachother#i dont think theyd split up though#or what would spark it since jd isnt there to be bossy
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Okay, but, what are the Batfamily’s favorite tv shows? It’s hard to find time between saving the world and curating their civilian identities, but when the Bats do have the chance to sit down and watch tv, they typically default to a certain genre.
Bruce by far has the weirdest taste in tv shows. Its why no one ever watches with him, because he’s the type to pick some random, obscure show that literally no one has ever heard of and is dubbed over in French or something. However, he does get kudos because he was the one that got everyone hooked on Squid Game.
Dick and Cass 100% watch American Ninja Warrior together. Dick started watching it when it first came out, and tunes in weekly for the new episodes. One day Cass walked in and was hypnotized. So now they watch it together and occasionally set up their own courses in the Batcave to have competitions on. Dick usually gets his ass beat but it’s still fun.
Jason watches period dramas. (This might actually be canon? I’m not sure?) He’s made his way through the Gilded Age, Downton Abbey, The Crown, and annually rewatches the ultimate cut of Pride and Prejudice. No one would expect the terrifying Red Hood to tear up watching Little Women, but man does that shit get to him…
Tim watches reality tv. The Kardashians, The Real Housewives, The Bachelor—he eats that shit up. Listening to other people’s problems and watching them deal with them in a removed way takes him back to his stalker days, and, hey, he appreciates some mind-numbing drama. Tim’s brain is like a whirlpool; sometimes it’s nice to just conk out thinking about what Kim said to Courtney, instead of that new project at WE or that new gadget he needs to work on for Young Justice.
Steph does not watch TV. She watches clips of TV shows on TikTok. (Particularly, those Young Sheldon clips that come up on everyone’s for you page.) On the rare occasions she actually does turn the TV on, it’s usually turned to Gossip Girl or a cartoon, and she doesn’t actually pay attention—it’s just background noise.
Damian is enthralled with National Geographic. He’ll deny it till the day he dies, but he loves those five-hour documentaries on rhinos and whale sharks or whatever. The problem is that he records everything, so the Manor’s DVR is always full, and it drives everyone crazy. Especially Dick, because by God, if there isn’t enough storage for next weekends episode of Ninja Warrior—
Duke likes comedy shows. Abbott Elementary, Parks and Rex, and The Good Place are just a couple of his favorites. He’s currently rewatching The Office with Barbra and they’ll quote it at each other during patrol.
#batfamily headcannons#tv shows#bruce wayne#dc#dc comics#batman#batfamily#dick grayson#tim drake#jason todd#stephanie brown#cassandra cain#damian wayne#duke thomas#bruce also ironically has watched anime I feel like I need to add that#and dick loves Next Top Model he watches it with Tim#and they have all at one point had to watch the Great British Baking Show with Alfred#also duke’s office quotes are getting out of control
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thinking about compiling screenshots of golden/silver age batman exclusively calling dick his ward to combat the allegations that it was “initially a father-child relationship”
#dc#batman#brudick#i don’t even ship it#i think i'm still mad at the poll when people were trying to refute the brudick points#by saying shippers are also biased and ignoring the history and that it really was a familial relationship early on#me the only asshole on this website enough of dumbass to try to read early batman “no it fucking wasn't”#if you hate the ship fine but don't back up your argument with complete lies#the pro-brudick camp has receipts which gives them way more validity than the haters#i'm sure somewhere out there there's dick grayson pre-crisis saying bruce is like a father to him#there's so many comics and i've barely scratched the surface#but i did read both the first golden age compilation book of batman and silver age world's finest compilation#and neither of them say anything like that#and no “his ward dick grayson” is how he's called constantly it's one of the stock phrases in the ever present narration#early comics fundamentally didn't understand they were a visual medium and are full of very tedious and unnecessary text panels#and to be fair each issue needed to function as an intro to someone who had never heard of batman and robin before so#“and his ward dick grayson”#every damn time#their relationship was adult man and his plucky kid sidekick he inexplicably hangs out with#which doesn't make sense and doesn't parallel to real life real social interaction#but neither does a man going in a batsuit to fight crime#and the out-of-universe explanation is because this comic was aimed at kids who were supposed to project onto dick grayson#and the kids want to be batman's kid-partner not his kid-son#it's not that complicated this trope still exists today#kid who should not be here but is because it's a kids' show/book/movie/etc#i stg i'm gonna become a brudick shipper out of spite at this point#and WHILE I'M COMPLAINING i am also going to be mad at the people who get all up-in-arms#about all the evil heroes doing child endangerment on their poor abused sidekicks#should there be kid heroes? no but cape comics would suck without them so stop complaining and enjoy yourselves#RL vigilantism is also always bad stop bringing real world standards into this they don't apply
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You know those posts about Danny owning John Constantine’s soul for one reason or another, why just Constantine, why not have several people in the Justice League somehow in debt because of something or someone in their past; like someone’s mom selling their first born; or a stupid dare they did in their childhood; maybe someone asking for protection for their children in their last breath; maybe they got caught up in a ritual; maybe an old generational curse; or an old enemy
somehow this happens to the vast majority of heroes, villains, vigilantes, anti-heroes and supernatural. The only person confirmed to not be indebted to the Ghost King by the Ghost King himself is Batman
#danny fenton#bruce wayne#john constantine#dc x dp#dp x dc#dp x dc crossover#justice leauge dark#justice league#ghost king danny#Yes the one about the mom is about Jason. I absolutely believe she sold his soul just as much as Constantine did his#jason todd#red hood#danny phantom#Danny has the largest network ever. And he didn’t even have to do much!#Everyone is freaking out when Danny decided to visit the Watchtower one day and show the receipts#Danny doesn’t want to return them#He can’t even imagine the amount of paper work he would need to do#And how some of these contracts he has can prevent others from fully claiming their soul#No one is happy about this and the state of their soul#Danny showed them everything else they are in contract and why he should have full ownership because the alt is worse#No one knows how Batman doesn’t have a debt to anyone#When asked he responds with “I’m Batman” and leaves#This just fuels the theories that he’s something Other and he knows this
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Dc x idea 124
Sam and Danny do a student exchange program. Danny was Volvontold to do it by mr.lancer who got his parents to agree. Sam’s parents were more then happy to force her to do it. The school she was being sent to had a Wayne.
Tucker would be staying back in amity to help Valarie with the ghosts.
The two amity Parker’s quickly caught attention at the transfer school. The two kept to themselves and wanted nothing to do with it. At one point they were caught bad mouthing the justice league. That caught attention especially from Damian Wayne.
Danny: it’s not that we don’t like hero’s
Sam: it’s that they claim to give a shit but don’t! That hotline is bs. Nothing comes from it.
Damian: they deal with world ending crisis not small time crime from a town in Illinois.
Danny: duh. Dude we don’t call when box ghost is stealing all the shoe boxes. Or when spectra did her hospital gig yet again. Then the time lunch lady decided it was mandatory meatloaf Monday and-
Sam: *elbowing Danny* we’ve only called with potential world ending threats. Like when the ghost king yoinked our town into the ghost zone and threatened to destroy earth without the return of his ring. Then the time undergrowth was going to feed our entire town to his plants then move on to the world.
Danny: don’t forget technus. Know how last month how phones, tvs and most electronics only were displaying a green face screaming of taking over the world. It only lasted like what 2 mins for you guys. But man that was a rough week for us.
Sam: Tucker got a hold of someone just for them to laugh In his face despite offering proof and video footage.
Sam/Danny: we’ll keep bad mouthing the justice league. Deal with it.
Sam: besides we have a much better heros then the justice league. Two of them who actually care.
#dcxdp#dpxdc#dpxdc prompt#dcxdp prompt#sam and Danny agreed to just bad mouth the justice league#someone was going to notice#this was prime hero area#maybe they could stage a mutiny with other teens#sam is going to mess with danny#talk up phantom#Damian is definitely informing Bruce of this#I’d like to say Giw is the ones blocking amity#there diverting calls to them#then making amity Parker’s think the leauge doesn’t care#so the leauge actually has no ideas#sam and danny don’t believe that#they have proof with emails and call logs#definitely showing that off to the students#mr lancer knew danny need to get away from amity#it couldn’t be a coincidence his grades and health were declining#with the appearance of ghosts#Danny will happily take help#he is a tired ghost boy#let it be someone else’s problem
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No because Damian angst could be so much more interesting if it wasn’t “Oh, thank GOD, Damian’s white saviors took him away from that awful, cruel and wicked pseudo mom Talia, oh thank god that he has Selina Kyle now!” and instead talked about how Damian was proned to violence since the moment he could walk and make noises with his mouth and was taught never to feel emotions THEN it goes to oh, son, you’ve made the choice to be with me so let me show you how to cope with that… with more violence as a pattern of unhealthy coping mechanisms instilled in you and me at a young age and you can show emotions! buuuut you have to wear this suit and take on a whole other identity then when out of the suit you have to wear a facade so no one truly knows about the suit in the first place and this won’t be confusing for a child at all! … Bruce Wayne.. what? And oh, this guy who thinks you’re a responsibility and generally vexing is going to take you under his wing because he thinks no one else can deal with you otherwise and you get a little close but eventually he hurts and abandoneds you as well but now you’re on good terms because the narrative has decided that no one can wrong you except the only person who loved you at first (Talia, the only person who thought it’d be a good idea to take you out of their lives in order to keep you away from this exhausting path of violence and masking) but it’s fine! … Okay, Dick… and then you’re fighting with your brother because he’s jealous of you taking his place and he calls you worthless, unworthy of love and your mantle and unworthy of your fathers trust… Okay, Tim…? Does anyone wanna love Damian for Damian and not love him only when its convenient to their own personal mission please? No?
NO ONE REALIZES THAT ITS NOT ABOUT DAMIAN NOT BEING AN AL GHUL! BEING AN AL GHUL DOESNT MAKE HIM EVIL! ITS NOT ABOUT HOW HE’S TREATED BY HIS FAMILY. ITS THAT CHOICE!! Damian needs to make more choices for himself instead of living by some destiny and going by whatever everyone else expects of him! His heart is good and worthy and he doesn’t need to be an Al Ghul or a Bat to figure that out! He needs to make more choices to be the best version of himself he can be but we’re too busy demonizing the Al Ghuls in fandom and in comics to realize that!!!
#AGH LIKE PLEASE I BELIEVE IN GOOD DAD BRUCE THOUGH I SWEAR… at least for damian#he has done bad things to damian in the past just aghh#i also like dick and damians relationship but jesus guys he is NOT his father#this might surprise you but GASP he has two parents alread and is not the adopted one#this was way longer than needed jesus#damian wayne#batfam#bruce wayne#talia al ghul#damian wayne meta#dc comics#dick grayson#batman#rant#THE FACT THAT HE WANTED TO BE BETTER SHOWS THAT BUT THE WRITERS WONT LET HIM DO MOREEE AHH WEVE ALOST THE PLOT
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whenever conversational discourse stirs up on the topic of dick and his co-dependency with bruce (i.e., for all their fights and disagreements, they'll both come running when the other calls, forever) i think it can simply be broken down to how a family *should operate. they have each other's back, and also hold each other's lives in the cradle of their palms. the most horrible thing in the world could be said to each other over and over again, but at the end of the day, their lives are at stake, and it's simply much too valuable to ever hold a grudge over. of course they come running when called. an abused dog still knows the command "sit"
#*not all families operate like that but i make the argument the bats do#idk i think it applies to everyone not just dick and bruce#everyone shows the same pattern of coming when called despite whatever history has happened before#yeah theyre going to fight and even fight each other but its kind of like that line that goes#'no one is allowed to hurt them except me' with the addition of 'we hold each other's leashes'#there is a dependency there that will never go away and the dependency was borne of a need#and that need is survival#dick grayson#bruce wayne
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"batman is first and foremost about rehabilitation and the possibility of redemption for everyone-" is he. is he really, though. when he clearly believes "criminal" is some personality trait divorced from circumstances and goes around calling goons "scum" and acts as if killing once, even under extreme circumstances that are not at all their fault, taints someone forever?
#see: when he finds out cass was made to kill once as a child#he's witnessed cass's current reverence for life and yet he has a fucking meltdown about it because ''she *was* perfect''#and that's just one example.#like canon is extensive. there are examples for anything and what you cherry pick to read will influence what you believe#the truth of the matter is that the bulk of what *i* have read shows me this lol#like even in comics where he touts this line some of it (his classism and utter disdain regarding criminals for one) still shows#(often in reflection of a writer's values for sure)#and i can reconcile it as... change is something he WANTS to believe is possible. he TRIES to believe it. but he doesn't.#but i can't agree this is his core#there's also the fact that even if it was he'd often display unbelievable carelessness towards rogue's victims due to it#but that's a whole other topic#and this is all something he teaches to those under his tutelage btw. this is something all bats follow to some extent#talking to the void#my thoughts#dc#dc thoughts#dc comics#bruce wayne#i might be opening a can of worms with this one but i needed it off my chest lol
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"Jason was the happy robin" this, "jason was the angry robin" that. Let's all be fully honest here Jason was the lonely robin
#It gets worse the more i think about it aiguaoughhh#they pretty much retconned the people he was close to before the crisis. he only interacts with dick like once or twice#ive never seen him with barbara#he had no team#in terms of school he had rena(?) and then 3 friends that show up in an annual and never again#and obviously with the whole secret identity it hardly can be a close friendship. esp with how little theyre shown#in terms of super friends he had Danny and Kid Devil. which. one is mentioned off hand and theyre never seen together#and the other is from a short story and never brought up again#alfred has his praises sung but we never really see him connect with jay#all he had was BRUCE. and the only way to ever be with bruce is to be robin#is it really any wonder he chased after his mother? is it any wonder who chose to trust someone he hardly knew?#dc liveblog#jason todd#i feel so bad for him all the time for forever#ive just started reading comics after his death but before his resurrection. the hallucination jason era#and its seems to be shaping up to be with him written as the angry robin who never listened#which i Know is because of the writers. but in universe? it just feels like jason wasnt understood or known at all#doylist vs watsonian moment as they say#dc comics#batman comics#and he became a symbol of failure to batman So Quickly. not a memory but a reminder#and every trophy from his time as robin was taken out of the batcave. and every moment as jason was removed from (at least) bruces room#he was on call/on a list as a backup titan if they needed help but he wasnt With them. they teamed up twice#i cant remember if he meant it towards blood specifically or in general rn but he fully admitted to not being good/experienced enough#they didn't really know him and he didn't really know them#wait fuck was rena all pre-crisis. devastating. he stopped going on patrols n being robin for awhile when she was his gf#of course by then he was already A Hero who cant fully ignore how he can help so he eventually was like yeah we should stop a little#obviously there was that catwoman arc going on and i feel writers just liked keeping him away alot. but ough. he was so quick to stop when#there was someone There. and robin didn't have ti feel like all he had#anyway crisis got rid of her im sure. like harvey. when does 'pre and post crisis' actually start bc its not at the crisis its issues after
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Oh the temptation to write a Resistance fic where Kudo learns to take care of a baby during terrible times
#bruce knows the most about developmental needs and has to teach kudo#whos strict but softhearted and wants to die whenever a baby cries that they hate him#basically kudo fumbling his way through parenthood bc hes too kind to just abandon babies in this dark era#and yoichi went and nicknamed the baby immediately despite kudo saying not to name it to avoid attachment#kudo to bruce: dont name it. itll be a burden if we do#yoichi in the background: oh Baby-chan how can you be so cute?#can u tell what ive been working on recently#bnha#boku no hero academia#my hero academia#mha#bruce#kudo#yoichi shigaraki#fic#oc#writing#yoichi just picks up a baby and of course it has to be a Meta baby#two sides of the same coin#one end is Kudo being concerned over Hasta la Vista baby and showing it in the worst ways#one end is Kudo learning how to really deal with babies cuz of baby-chan#he still talks to babies like theyre dogs though#kudo's learning curve for something he never thought hed end up doing. babies were very much not a part of his short life plan#its funnnnn
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what people really don't seem to understand about jason's (very justifiable) anger towards bruce is that it's not about bruce leaving the joker alive, it's about the fact that bruce didn't do anything to stop the joker from harming/killing anyone ever again. if bruce had actually done something about the joker (it doesn't have to be murder but something that would stop the joker from causing more harm), jason probably would've been less angry (because the joker being alive isn't the only issue that jason had with bruce) with him.
(yeah, i know all about how the joker had diplomatic immunity but that comic was also pretty islamophobic & and also it was very pro-z10n1st (i.e. one of the candidates to potentially be jason’s mother was a spy for the is***l government) so i'm disregarding everything about that comic)
#dc comics#dc universe#dcu#batman#red hood#jason todd#jason peter todd#jason was never the angry robin#just because jason showed his trauma in a way that didn't present him as frail and soft-hearted doesn't mean that his trauma wasn't valid#jason todd deserves better#jason todd had every right to be pissed#jason todd needs a hug#bruce is all about giving people second chances but the joker has proven time and time again that he doesn’t deserve one at all#someone needs to use the law to prove that the joker isn’t insane so he can get the death penalty#i’m so tired of jason antis
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