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The dog days are over.
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#poorly drawn mdzs#mdzs#wei wuxian#jiang cheng#The childhood flashback is one of my favourite scenes in MDZS and yes I am disapointing myself in how little I am covering it.#If it is any consolation...I'll be bringing JYL's piggyback scene into another comic later on.#There truly is something so specific and yet resonant in the way our bonds as children feel so deep.#But the world doesn't stay as small as it does when you are a kid. The problems you argue about get bigger and more serious.#You still hold so much love for this person despite how much you want to throw hands with them.#To have such a complicated history with someone and then fall apart...You always think you have time to heal the wound.#Why wouldn't you! You've never had anything but time with this person. A brother not in blood but in true and genuine bond.#And then the fucker dies! It's horrible and sudden and the last words you exchanged were cold and awful!#What do you do with those dead end feelings? What do you do but grieve bitterly and angrily?#There is no resolution for all the love you wanted back. There will never be an opportunity to bridge the gap between you.#Someone you loved died thinking you hated them. Because you thought you had more time.#If anyone dares say Jiang Cheng didn't love WWX I'll be the first to fire up the powerpoint presentation on why he absolutely does.
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tfone au where OP is created as the last of the primes but way after them, a sparkling born at what were thought to be the last days of the war against the quintessons, the beginning of a new generation of peace after eons of war. a child meant to be loved and raised knowing nothing of war nor sacrifice.
he's kept mostly out of the spotlight by his siblings, who don't wish to expose him to everyone's optics so young, and want to wait until the war is done and over to properly introduce him to their people.
except of course the primes are betrayed and murdered by sentinel, the war is lost and everyone who knows and cared for the truth is either banished or outright killed in order to suppress it.
and the high guard, the ones the primes trusted the most, the ones that were supposed to protect them, the ones who failed in their most important duty, have to make a choice. to take the last prime, their last hope, with them to the surface, a hostile environment where there's little to no supplies and where they'll be hunted down by both sentinel and the quintessons as the biggest threat to their regimen.
or hide him in plain sight. place him where sentinel won't think to look for him. one more sparkling among many. and hope it will be enough to keep him alive. pray to primus that he'll protect his last child long enough for them to come back for him when it's safer (even if most of them have already lost their faith on him when he allowed the rest of his children to be massacred like that)
they almost lose their resolve when they realize they will have to take the little one's cog away in order to make him blend in with the rest of the newborns (and oh do they burn with murderous intent when they see what sentinel has done to their people but it's not the time yet-) but in the end they decide an impaired little prime is better than a dead one.
and so in the chaos of thirteen dead primes and a sudden energon crisis, a little sparkling who very few mechs really knew about and even fewer had seen completely vanishes. and in the depths of iacon a mech in charge of a new batch of newborns scratches their helm in confusion as they realize they must have miscounted the first time.
optimus prime is quietly erased from any official records by sentinel, written off as dead when they find a sparkling's frame mangled beyond recognition after an attack on the base of those rebels that insist on being a thorn on his side. killing the sparkling hadn't been precisely in his plans, he probably could've found some use for it after all, but he's not particularly upset about it either.
and orion pax grows up with an ache on his spark that tells him he's missing something far more important than a t-cog and dreams of gentle and loving hands, cradling him against the frames of mechs he cannot recall the faces of.
#i talk a lot <3#transformers#transformers one#tfone#optimus prime#orion pax#baby prime orion au#this is mostly an excuse for me to draw the primes and baby OP later on. just to be clear.#i WILL be drawing this at some point lmao#tbh i'm a little uncertain how i want things to progress#because on one hand it would be very tasty and tense if sentinel recognized optimus during the race#but that means a lot of changes very early on in the plot and i would have to do a lot of Thinking on how to justify getting the gang#to still pick up bee and elita. cause i love them <3#i do think it'd be very funny if the high guard's plan worked like a charm except for the very tiny fact that they didn't count#on orion being an absolute hellion. like. this kid is Not Going Unnoticed and it's completely his own fault lmao#in this version maybe a member of the high guard stayed behind to keep an eye on orion and is able to get them out before they're killed#but instead of taking them to where the primes fell they take them directly to the high guard#which is very awkward because it's a very moving and emotional moment for the high guard who are finally reunited with their little prime#all grown up and healthy and blessedly *alive*. except orion doesn't fucking remember any of them and is very confused as to why#the legendary warriors of cybertron are getting all weepy over him. they finally explain the truth to him which is a Fucking Bomb#to drop on anyone but especially a group of kids who almost got killed by the person they all thought the world of just hours ago#they also return orion's t-cog to him which would create some tension between him and the rest of the gang because this time#he's the only one getting his cog back. add to it that they were just told he's the equivalent of a demi-god and... well.#there's a gap between him and them that wasn't there before#on the other version of events that follows canon more closely everything goes the same up until the gang finds the primes in the cave#and wake up alpha trion who now not only has to deal with the fact the rest of his siblings are dead but that he missed fifty cycles#of his baby brother's life. that the only sibling he has left does not remember him or his true identity at all.#he has to choose between telling him the truth which has the risk of unbalancing him in a critical moment where he cannot afford to#be distracted because they're being hunted down. or let him remain unaware. let him forget their family and the love they had for him#but letting him remain free of the knowledge of what he lost and the heartbreak it would bring.
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You're mine, and you know I like you for that - I like you (a happier song)
#my art#sakura haruno#kisame hoshigaki#kisasaku#tw suggestive#tw age gap#giving Kisame a random nose ring brings me joy#Sakura’s birthday 2024
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I know this breaks away from the lore stuff but this is most definitely what Grian sees.
Scott’s just the smiley type, guys.
#sorry for the big gap in chained life stuff#I had and still have a lot of ideas#I just couldn’t find the motivation to bring any of it to life#chained life au#trafficblr#mcyt#traffic life#traffic smp#chained life#life smp#life series au#life series#scott smajor#grianmc#grian#smajor mcyt#speakers#watchers#watcher grian#watcher!grian#evo lore#lore#mars art
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i could make a comment on how tess being overlooked in the tlou fandom is because of the misogynistic views on older women we have in this society where any woman over 35 is not considered sexy anymore and therefore loses her worth, but do i want to
#it's a tale as old as time#do we need to talk about it#or should i just walk away#like what i keep thinking but don't really want to bring up#is how sad it makes me that most of the fandom seems to want to ignore tess#because they prefer picturing joel with a hot 25 year old#this maybe comes from me realising the amount of age gap dbf type of content that is out there#and obviously i don't need to engage in any of it and i can block the tags#but sometimes just the sheer amount of it#has me a bit worried for the future of our society#tess servopoulos#the last of us
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sometimes it feels like lewis has a degree of distance from the rest of the grid that makes it hard to connect to him (i, a newer fan, took a while to even get a proper sense of his vibes). he’s such a legend and icon in the sport there’s always a little bit of separation i think — maybe subconsciously for some of the older drivers, but i think it’s more prevalent in the younger drivers because so many of them actually idolized him for years and are suddenly racing with him. max may be getting there but he also grew up with most of the grid, and he has his funky little hobbies (twitch streaming sim races) that give fans a glimpse of him casually. i’m not sure why lewis doesn’t participate in grill the grid/f1 videos but when you think about it that’s how a lot of people get some more casual impressions of the drivers they don’t follow as closely (or at all), and then he’s not there. there’s just this air of legendary about him so when you see him standing alone it seems intentional, in a way. he is always standing on his own as a leader in many (metaphorical) ways so i can understand why the drivers might see him minding his business during the parade and think he wants the space.
anyway all this to say there is a special kind of happiness in seeing charles decide to break through the wall of godliness to keep lewis company and bring him back to their level. lewis seems so much more engaged and lively and mortal when he’s happy chatting with the other drivers and being a bit mischievous and it’s like oh, i’m finally seeing the lewis hamilton he was before the myth and fame and weight of leadership. i think he’s really going to seem like a whole new person next season with charles and ferrari for those of us who didn’t know that lewis and i really really like the idea of getting to meet him ❤️
#idk how to even word it properly but it’s like. he’s Lewis Hamilton#he’s always seemed like a standup guy with the activism and awareness he brings to things#but even that sort of… leadership and bravery to take action with his platform is possible because he HAS a platform#there’s no escaping it#i always liked him fine but I’m starting to LIKE him you know#(this is not max slander btw i love max and he’s a leader in his own way and very supportive of the other drivers too)#(it’s just different energy around them… the generational gap i think)#thinking about lewis stealing charles phone during an interview and it’s like this kind of feels like pre trauma brocedes lewis#fun! and lively! and connected!#idk I am slightly sleep deprived and weirdly emotional about this#charles leclerc#lewis hamilton#I’m becoming an idle 1644 supporter#1644
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highschool saigenos
saitama going through another of those days
#one punch man#saigenos#saitama#genos#i think there’s like a one up year gap between them#sometimes saitama starts skipping school and isolates himself a little#genos brings him homework and meals#opm#my art
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i do a light chuckle once i remember hofmann and semmelweis are friends but then i remember semmelweis and marcus' suitcase interaction where they talk about her and i am once again inconsolable about this old woman's death
#reverse 1999#semmelweis#greta hofmann#certified storm moments#i miss hofmann so bad i know ill start sobbing when someone brings her up again in chapter 7#r1999 shitpost#i still think their canon ages are bullshit and theyre both older than canon in my head but yeah semmelweis is half hofmann's age (19 to 38#bluepoch i prommy you won't start profusely bleeding income if you make a character older than their mid twenties. i promise you that#nothing more but hofweis rambling after this you have been warned#anyways you mightve seen me here or there mention that i ship these two and. yes the age gap is a central theme to how i percieve them#semmelweis lived the dream (see how i say this in past tense) she bagged that old woman </3#the inherent angst of your partner being so much younger than you and close to death thanks to a terminal illness yet in the end#its actually you that dies first. and she ends up finding a cure to illness and ending up immortal. something something 'i will never see#how old age looks on you. you are breaking my heart.' and how it applies to both of their perspective towards the other#one went to vienna to (unknowingly) die and the other went there to live#koshka-sova said it best its a pair that dances round life and death. and can't forget about the inherent workplace yuri#also its funny thinking of marcus unwittingly finding out through either her arcane skill or some other method her mentor's coworker-friend#got it on with her. like i think the two start bonding because of hofmann but then one day marcus approaches her with haunted eyes and#shakily goes 'd...did you. did you and madam hofmann..? my arcane skill said. that you and. did you two......?'
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Just for fun, a conversation between Starfire and catwoman
Catwoman: Can you, uh... turn it down, a little?
Starfire: I don't understand.
Catwoman: The flamey hair. The glowy eyes. The fact that you're raising the temperature of a 15-foot radius by 6 degrees. It's... cutting in pretty hard on my whole... sneaky-night-mission-thing.
Starfire: It's unconscious. It only gets 'turned down' if I'm extremely depressed. Or de-powered altogether.
Catwoman: ...Don't you have, like, space trauma?
Starfire: 'Space Trauma?'
Catwoman: I dunno, I don't know your deal. I don't keep super hardcore track on things outside of Gotham. I just know Birdboy's smitten, and you look like a goddess and yet you're putting up with all of his Batman-isms, which means there's probably several screws loose up there.
Starfire: *snort* I believe you famously put up with a lot of 'batman-isms.'
Catwoman: *stretches* Eh. Pots. Kettles.
Starfire: I am now going to make this conversation way more tedious by asking you to explain that idiom.
Catwoman: *snrk* I don't mind. You know, the space 'I don't get idioms' thing is probably a good way of making people realize when they're being assholes.
Starfire: *smiles*
Catwoman: ...ah.
#starfire#catwoman#koriand'r#selina kyle#I do love bringing in the ~princess~ factor for Starfire#not that she's like a brat but more that she's a lot more perceptive than a lot of people give her credit for#but she's also actively dealing with cultural gaps and dejah thoris outfits aside she's a damn classy lady#something something sofia vergara 'I'm so smart in my own language'#dc#teen titans#dickkory#batcat
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#they were brothers once#Neteyam died. and they wished they still could be.#but it was too late#there was no fixing this#no bridging the gap#bringing back the bond that was lost#there wasn't the time#maybe in the next life#just maybe#avatar 2#avatar the way of water#spider socorro#miles spider socorro#miles socorro#avatar#avatar spider#spider avatar#neteyam te suli tsyeyk'itan#neteyam sully#neteyam
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I also just realized that we really only get the 7 days before the crash to really see the people Curly and Anya were before the crash. It's not even the full seven days. We get the first two and the last two with a gap in the time for what could have gone down.
I just realized how vague it was and how quickly it all happened. They are such small moments and such short glimpses. She's only just told Curly two days before the crash. The next she told Jimmy and Curly had to confront him. It's further implied right after that conversation, Curly goes to collect himself and figure things out and Jimmy immediately crashes the ship, once he's far enough to not stop him, cause he knows Curly would never truly allow it to happen.
But he takes that as the okay to go ahead, because in the long time he's known Curly, that's always been the okay.
The difference in the gaps in the timeline really just paint a bigger less explained but more obvious picture.
#like im only just really realizing how short that time frame is and we are missing days but i genuienly think the assult happened sometime#between the first two days and the last two days hence the gap in time for ambiguity#I just realized what Curly did was act as a sheild for Anya but it just didn't work. he believed he could#bring her comfort by simply not allowing Jimmy near her by supplementing her tasks and taking over some of her responsibilities#this always worked for Jimmy and he really only uses this as a basis for social interaction with the crew which is like cray cray on its ow#but i digress like he should've done more but man the jump in severity is crazy on Jimmy's part from menacing to the attac#as he likely used the psych evals to measure up his chances like a freak. Not to mention how Curly was just piecing things together when he#realized she never got psych evals like its all so confined im just so wacked out because yeah Curly still could've done way more the momen#he found out but Im also just realzing how short a day fucking is so like damn any way team kill Jimmy with stones and slap Curly till he#makes a better friend go#mouthwashing#mouthwashing game#this is just something im really conceptualizing btw like I know the time frame im just actually thinking about it with all the other facto
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EOVD Doodle Dump!
Today (the 30th) is the anniversary of me posting the first chapter of my fic, exes of varying degrees (wow!!) and for some reason, I haven't posted any of the art I've done for it despite drawing uh... QUITE A FEW PIECES while I was writing it!!! So I figured now was a good time to redraw some of them so I could post them all at once!
There's also another comic that ended up needing its own seperate post, so y'know. If you want to see Edge with cat ears... go check that out.
Also, take a look at the best gif I've ever made (+ context):
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The mention of Stretch looking a little green was to inform the audience he looked sick but it was also a very subtle reference to the pear wiggling gif hrhdherjhwfejjhefkjh
These are the old versions of the art I redrew :'] My anatomy is a little wonky (*wheezes.* Sans' spine... the readers ARM...) but I still kinda like em! I drew both of them at work LMAO
#undertale au#exes of varying degrees#eovd#swapfell papyrus#papyrus/reader#swapfell!papyrus/reader#underswap papyrus#underswap sans#swapfell sans#sans undertale#reader insert#GAH TAGGING#my art#one day ill draw rus consistently.#today is not that day#another terrifying thing? since EOVD is around a year old. soon Flipping Fate will be too#;u; ...#anyway. i miss drawing blue w a tooth gap. im bringing it back#i think its super cute#i was gonna redo the pear wiggler gif but ehhhhh i dont think i have the time and honestly it has a bit of messy charm as is#i’ll post these to ao3 later as well but you guys get it a little early#because. i dont want to finagle with html and images LKIHSKLFJHSFH
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okay its no secret i dont buy into marazhai being the persona he puts on. so as i've officially met him in game now, im making a list of all the in-game reasons i think he's a bit of an idiot [which i love btw. i find him far more compelling if he's a bit stupid/weird and he's trying so hard not to be but you just know nobody in commorragh is inviting him to parties]
the very first time you get a glance of him on a rooftop and. 'deal with this' "of course" proceeds to just walk off like 3 seconds after the other two
ambushes you. has you cornered. is in optimal position to kick your ass frankly, high ground and better weapons and utilising shock against you. ...he bitches at you for a while, gets insulted, then runs off into the forest with a maniacal cackle
heinrix fired a mild insult [considering what he's like to everyone else its barely an insult] and he took big enough issue with it to start saying how he'll break him and turn him into a pet. oh sure dude you're responding super well to this mild comment from the guy who accidentally insults everyone and their entire ancestral line at some point
i think it says something that he's learned to speak your language fluently too. that Has to be some kind of Yikes moment to admit publicly in drukhari culture. buried family secret great great grandfather drukhari-georg learned to speak mon keigh and now we claim he just spoke oddly because was shot in the head as a child to prevent the shame
he also knows the mon keigh lore that says youre a super special little guy as rogue trader and actually LISTENS to the fact you're the special little guy as rogue trader. and he does treat you as more equal/with more respect than the other characters. thats not just a drukhari culture yikes thats what gets you checked for a concussion or brain damage
literally socially atrocious enough its believed he's working with you [read: with you. not using you, not manipulating, cooperating. this is a big difference i feel] and only he himself doesnt believe it
ignore the fact he eventually DOES work with you which. is its own follow up statement
challenges you to fight him, to give chase then and there. i made him wait while i went through english government simulator where i queued for multiple days, did multiple day/week voidship trips back and forth, got distracted by accidentally starting jae's romance, pasqal telling me to servitorise her, getting blackout drunk with her, shipwide broadcast tm, giving her a voidship, her getting me a space cat, attacked by pirates, dealt with a plague, explored a few extra systems.......................
he destroys your palace. ...its rebuilt effectively within a week. most of the damage is in bodies which are just sent to the poor district to rot [almost feels worse than the damage done good job imperium]
the throne has claw marks. he could've blown it up or shot it or piled corpses on it but no he wanted to sit on the fancy chair and so turned into a common housecat mauling the sofa arm
how long was he just sitting there lounging on that chair? again see how long i kept him waiting. he was just sitting there trying to find a comfy position on this [for him] kinda small chair JUST so he could briefly taunt, break your window with his space motorbike, jump off the chair in a dramatic [but not gunna lie not that impressive] feat of gymnastics, then fly out. he doesnt even shoot at you as he leaves
i will continue my list as i see more that entertain me
#warhammer rogue trader#rogue trader marazhai#marazhai rogue trader#marazhai aezyrraesh#dont listen to how he tries to portray himself hes LAME and i thoroughly enjoy that about him#like. marazhai is a social outcast on so many levels and he is trying SO hard to compensate. it makes him incredibly interesting#ive seen some stuff of him later on but not all that much so im really curious how it'll go/how well i've grasped him#my current thoughts on him? he's just. fundamentally someone who desperately wants to be understood#but in all his long life he's never found it. and commorragh isnt a place for weakness like that. so he acts over it#he pretends to be some great evil mastermind with a lot of flair which is Intentional. because he doesnt know how to act like other drukhar#so concealing that is the best he's got. he doesnt realise the yawning gaps that show it for what it is and bring distain on him anyway#drukhari hate him because he's not like them. he's odd and dramatic and takes things to heart when he shouldnt but dismisses things he shou#he's tolerated for his blood connections and how it killing him could be an invitation for feud. he's also easy to get out of the way#send him to go chat to some mon keigh he'll be so fixated on setting the stage for the meeting he'll miss the important stuff#humans hate him bc he's drukhari. they believe the way he portrays himself because it fits propaganda#hell he may've even learned how to act drukhari from human stories. it'd fit tbh. ....i want to think more on this now#either way he loses. and tbh thats why i do like the idea of him with pasqal. theyre both freaks and social outcasts despite their ranks#robot rambles
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Kind of a weird AU but hear me out:
Finwe marries Indis, right? Most controversial thing Finwe ever done and that includes leading elves from their ancestral home to a new continent to live with gods. Silmarillion says that it happened because he fell in love and I believe it BUT what Silmarillion doesn't tell you is WHEN Finwe marries Indis. I saw posts that say the canon is inconclusive and Tolkien probably changed his mind a lot, and half of what of what Tolkien wrote is thrown from the window by fandom, so.
Anyway, one of the versions said Feanor was at least a teenager when Finwe/Indis happens (I think). What Silmarillion states is that Feanor married VERY young by elven standards, and that Nerdanel was below his station (classism? in elven society? apparently!).
Last thing before I get to the main point: Fingolfin marries Anaire, a Noldo lady, who I saw often enough written as a noble or a court lady, perfectly fine that, no idea if that's canon. And Finarfin very much marries Teleri princess.
...I don't know guys, it feels very convienient. For princes to fall in love with exactly the kind of women who would be approved by royal court and strenghten political ties with other elven factions. If it was anything else than silm, I would call political marriages.
Time for crack: based on what I wrote above I propose an AU where it was FEANOR who was supposed to marry Indis. For politics! Vanyar are the most important faction in Aman! Let's marry into that!
But the MOMENT Feanor became an adult and they could process with courting without making it creppier than it already is, Feanor runs off to elope with his coworker and there's nothing they can do. Well, that's what Finwe tells Ingwe when Ingwe rages about it to him.
Finwe loves Feanor, he wants him to marry for love, and that's exactly what happens. But, uh, all Vanyar are pissed that there's no political marriage when they were promised one (they mad cause they look stupid now), and, well. Finwe decides to bite the bullet. For his son.
It's not true of course. But imagine family dinners after that.
#silm#silmarillion#finwe#feanor#indis#crack#AU#imagine being fingolfin and knowing you could be feanors son not his brother#I mean he would at least love you but still#feanor/indis age gap now THAT's problematic internet forums would explode#it's not that type of story but Finwe sounds unhinged enough to actually do this#solving political crisis proving your love to your son and getting a hot wife to make many babies with?#that has Finwe all over it baby#in this AU nobody ACTUALLY believes Miriel will ever return#like Valars told them it's possible#they went 'uh huh whatever you say' and totally ignored them#listen there are miracles and there are MIRACLES#and bringing people back from dead is the latter#have a nice day!#duty-driven Finweans are my catnip#like SoF went nuts with their Oath obviously#but didn't get that kind of intensity about promises from nowhere#actually Finwe fucking his whole family over with badly thought out and executed promise is very on brand#I did NOT open Silmarillion for this I'm going from memory#so be warned#feanor/indis
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Guys i'm re-reading the Throne of fire and I think the wiki lied to us, cause Carter just said Walt was fourteen years old.
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So either the entire fandom collective read the book wrong or Rick forgot the age of his character and changed it.
(or my book is faulty)
#Omg remember when we all mentioned the age gap between Walt and Sadie#It doesn’t exist#At least not in the first pages of the throne of fire#i feel lied to#will the stop me (and everyone else) from making Walt 16 in my fanfic?#no#walt stone#sadie kane#carter kane#if anyone could actually bring up like evidence that Walt is 16 besides for the wiki plz do that#i need to know#Tkc#the kane chronicles#the throne of fire
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CHAT I HAVE COME TO A REALIZATION: NUZI/WD X DD SHIPS DON'T HAVE AN AGE GAP, NEITHER PHYSICALLY OR MENTALLY.
I've come to this realization and oh my god I think this is prob kinda obvious but let me explain.
In the MD fandom, ships like Nuzi, Vizzy, Etc. All sometimes get considered as proships (which they are not, at least nowadays this has been a LOT less frequent, as people have realized they're not) and the main points are either the Age Gaps or the fact they're technically Interspecies.
Most people point that "oh N, V and J were already Disassembly Drones by the time Uzi was a pill baby, but that argument isn't valid, a lot of people tend to forget is that: The Copper-9 Born Drones age differently from the ones from earth.
Pretty much, lets devide them into generations, Gen 1 and Gen 2, Gen 1 are the Workers made by JCJenson, they were built for mines and are used as well... Workers and stuff, main thing about them is that they're born with adult bodies (Examples of Gen 1s are: N, V, J, Cyn, Khan, Nori, Yeva, Alice and the older Drones in Outpost 3), Gen 2 are the Worker Drones born in Copper-9, they actually have a life cycle, going from Pill Babies before having their bodies transferred to the normal Worker Bodies. (Examples of Gen 2s are: Uzi, Lizzy, Doll and Thad.)
N, being a Gen 1, was probably only like, a few years old in the manor, same thing with V and J and Cyn and shit. After all the solver Stuff and the Alphabet squad got turned into DDs and they commit human genocide then presumably are sent to Copper-9 after wiping out earth, C9 is already controlled by the Worker Drones, pill babies probably already exist.
Uzi is one of those, Nori gets """killed""" by either N or V or J and about 2 decades later Uzi is now an adult, N is probably in his early 20s physically as he's existed for 20 years, as shown by the show, N is also mentally that age.
Uzi is 19-21, same age range as N, which going by my logic, Nuzi does NOT have an age gap !!! Not physically, not mentally, in no way !!!
This post is kinda rambly but I hope you get it.
#murder drones#uzi doorman#serial designation n#ship discourse is dumb#they don't even got age gaps brah#nuzi#<- main ship I'm talking about when bringing up these examples#you can still dislike it but don't use the “it's a proship” point as it is stupid and doesn't make sense
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