#because there’s no way elphaba would have stayed with glinda or for glinda to go with her

[cto10121]

Me: [pacing in the therapist office] But what really kills me are the people who believe that Musical Gelphie has more development than Fiyeraba and that Fiyeraba came out of ~nowhere. Putting Book Wicked aside for a hot second, the whole reason why Musical Elphaba and Glinda became friends in the first place in the musical is because Glinda played a mean trick on Elphaba, and Elphaba completely misunderstands it. She thinks Glinda gifting her the black hat was genuine! This leads her to ask Madame Morrible to include Glinda in her seminar and Glinda feeling guilty about her cruel attempt at humiliation and trying to assuage it by dancing with Elphie. That’s when they truly become friends. In so doing, the musical bases their entire friendship on a misunderstanding (!!). That’s what I mean when I say that Musical Wicked is fundamentally the Glinda Show. The two of them don’t become friends when they recognize their similarities or as a natural reconciliation of their differences. They are friends because Glinda felt white liberal guilt for a hot second. And then in the very next scene, Glinda tries to make Elphaba “popular” by making her to act and look like her. She still doesn’t accept Elphaba! So yeah, Musical Gelphie is a cursed ship to me, very cursed. I may bitch about Musical Fiyero being a Glinda clone (basically Book Avaric + Book Fiyero’s background), but at the very least he did accept Elphaba, green skin, Animal rights, and high C#5s and all. And the musical has at least a handful of Fiyeraba interactions pre-As Long As You’re Mine which shows their attraction to each other. I don’t know, does that make sense?

Therapist: Musical Wicked just sounds cursed all around.

Me: I know!

[gonkaccino]

hey hey another thing. Everyone noticed how subdued movie Elphaba is relative to book/musical Elphaba, right? Book Elphaba's whole thing is being loudly independent and making her own bold choices (then getting [metaphorically] pushed down 5 flights of stairs for having the gall to exist). Musical Elphaba is less of a reddit atheist than her book counterpart, but still plenty abrasive and, ultimately, forges her own path (with its own relatively less tragic consequences).

Movie Elphaba? She doesn't choose to go to Shiz. Her father's planning on keeping her tucked away in their family home until the day she dies, where she can't hurt anyone or further embarrass the Thropp name. Morrible's the one who gets her enrolled, fully aware that Elphaba has no choice if she doesn't want to spend the rest of her life stuck at home, only ever leaving to accompany Nessa. This Elphaba doesn't choose to go to school, she doesn't choose to go to the Emerald City, and, really, she doesn't even choose to defy gravity -- there is no alternative, she can't live if she stays with the Wizard, especially not after Morrible's preemptive announcement of her wickedness. Movie Elphaba's trapped by her destiny, walking the path laid out for her. With one crucial exception, of course: Glinda, baby, that's right, the only thing this Elphie's ever chosen for herself, the only thing she's been allowed to choose, is to have Glinda at her side!

This softer, more noticeably scared Elphaba creates the extremely juicy dynamic of visibly relying on Glinda for support. As soon as they become pals, Elphaba's latched onto her, the only person who isn't scared of her magic, the first person to care for Elphaba's well-being. She chooses to befriend Glinda, she chooses to bring Glinda to the Emerald City, she chooses to ask Glinda to defy gravity with her. This is what makes this version of Defying Gravity so delicious: Elphaba's never truly believed in herself! The only reason she ever started was because Glinda was there to encourage her, and now, at this crucial moment, this Elphaba, who has lived her life so terrified of the harm she could cause others, has the confidence to not only risk her own life with a spell she's never tried, but the life of her one and only friend!

And Glinda refuses! And it's totally understandable now! Of course this Glinda would say no -- she's not scared of what could happen to her, she's scared of what will happen to Elphie, and standing there, she gets it. She understands the role she's played in Elphaba's life. Glinda knows Elphaba wouldn't be there, ready to declare war on the Wizard, if Glinda hadn't been by her side the entire time, and she has to refuse. She has to. Elphaba's request isn't come with me, we're stronger together, it's I can't do this without you, I'm not strong enough, and Glinda KNOWS that's not true. The only way she can express this is by sending Elphie off on her own, to straighten her hat and wish her luck. It's the only way Elphie will take flight and finally realize that she's got the power to do anything she wants, if she just tries.

[aparticularbandit]

I RAN OUT OF TAGS.

Still turning Wicked around in my head.

Rotating it in the tumbler.

Debating writing something with it but like. Not quite there.

There's a couple of moments that scream to me.

Not sure my grasp of the characters is strong enough and like it....

It's Wicked, with its huge fandom, and it's....

I want to make sure I have the grasp on the characters I want before getting into it.

[fishbonex]

Flower crowns and you all

Elphaba Thropp x fem!reader x Glinda Upland

Summary: A peaceful attempt at making flower crowns with Glinda and Elphaba.

Word Count: 0,5K

Warnings: none 🤍

ENGLISH IS NOT MY FIRST LANGUAGE.

"You keep copying mine." Glinda's overly sweet voice grumbled, earning a snort from Elphaba, who was sitting next to you.

"I don't know if you noticed but we're in a field of flowers, all the flowers here look alike." Elphaba said, not bothering to lift her head to look at the blonde girl, who had an annoyed pout on her lips.

"I'm not talking about that, you know. You're braiding in the same pattern as me." Glinda held up the flower braid in production to prove it.

You frowned and shrugged your shoulders even more. The two of them had been arguing since they arrived. Uninvited. You were making flower crowns alone, enjoying the cool breeze of the late afternoon. A moment of peace, away from the typical chaos of Shiz.

But Galinda seemed to have a radar that pointed straight at you, because it wasn't long before she appeared, dragging Elphaba by the hand.

She blinked her big eyes at you and you gave her permission to sit down and join in your activity. Everything was fine, but soon Glinda began to get annoyed with Elphaba's crown.

"That's nonsense! I'm braiding them so they stay firmly attached." the green girl argued, starting to work harder with her hands.

"That's envy." Glinda hummed, pursing her lips so that her dimples were visible.

"Why would I be jealous of the way you weave flowers, Galinda?" Elphaba finally lifted her face to look at her.

"There are many reasons for this. You don't have the ability-"

With a loud huff, you stood up from the grass, dropping your flowers and brushing the dirt off your uniform. Grabbing your bag, you began walking away from the pair.

"Look what you did! You pissed her off," Glinda's voice whispered.

"Be quiet." Elphaba ordered, and turned to you. "Hey, where are you going?"

You stopped in your tracks and turned to them, "To my dorm."

"Don't you want to go study with me?" She stood up, her expression embarrassed.

Glinda hurriedly stood up and stood in front of her, "Don't you want to go try on dresses with me? Or watch me practice with my wand-"

"No, thank you." you turned around and continued walking towards campus with heavy steps.

A few days later, you buried your face even deeper into the book you were reading when you heard Glinda's melodious voice approaching. You squinted your eyes as she let out a happy little squeal upon spotting you.

"There you are!" she exclaimed, then turned to Elphaba. "I told you she'd be here."

"I'm reading." you grumbled.

"Oh, we see." Glinda continued to act excited, pulling Elphaba closer to her. "We just want to give you something."

Elphaba opened her bag and took out a wreath, making you look up from your book, "We finished yours for you, you left it lying there."

You closed the book and stood up, taking the crown in your hands delicately, it was sloppy and had some flaws, but it was closed and someone had placed extra flowers on top.

"Which one of you did it?" you asked, not wanting to cause another fight.

"Both of us! Did you like it?" Glinda asked, looking at you expectantly.

You sighed in relief, finally. They did something without fighting.

"I- yes, I love it, it's beautiful." you replied and Glinda quickly took the crown and put it on you, Elphaba adjusted it slightly so it wouldn't be crooked.

"Oh, you look like a princess." Glinda said, pretending to wipe away tears.

"It suits you very much." Elphaba said, pressing her lips together in a smile.

Oh, how you loved those two idiots.

[sukibenders]

Glinda mentions to Elphaba how Fiyero can't stop thinking about that moment in Dillamond's class, or that he's having thoughts in general and how it worries her because it's not something she's used to from him (which is him thinking about actual things), in contrast to Elphaba, who doesn't seem all that bothered and, even more so interested in the manner when Fiyero brings up how he can't stop thinking about when they rescued the lion cub. I don't know about everyone else but for me, even with this scene probably being added for lighthearted value, I also see it as another piece in the puzzle cementing how Fiyero's and Glinda's actions will, eventually, either pull them closer or further away from Elphaba. I lowkey don't like it when people act surprised or confused as to why Glinda was spelled or get annoyed that Fiyero is in her place but I, personally, don't think she would have helped in that moment, specifically in the movie.

Prior to the train scene, Glinda is shown to, not only, be completely rude and spoiled (as shown with her literally fainting over not getting her way), when in class, she publicly points out Dillamond's inability to pronounce her name correctly even though it's an obvious struggle, parading in front of the class how easier it was for her other teachers to do it, then being dismissive during the rest of the lesson when learning the importance of history and why to learn from it (correct me if I'm wrong, as it has been a minute since I've seen the movie). All that already tells me that she doesn't really care for the animals' cause, let alone enough to follow Elphaba and Fiyero into the woods after stealing the lion cub and I think, subconsciously, Elphaba knew that. In fact, I can only see Glinda trying to sway them to leave the cub and how what their new professor wanted to teach probably wasn't all that bad (not saying that she would want the cub to be harmed, just that she would try to rationalize what's going as we've seen her do before). This is the same woman who, after learning that the Wizard was a fraud and responsible for the missing and harmed animals, still tried to justify his actions and berated Elphaba for not "acting accordingly" to the news, but yet we still think she should have been there to save the lion cub? That she would have helped those animals alongside Fiyero and Elphaba? I think it could allude to how Glinda could/will be used to help further push propaganda for the Wizard, especially given how it benefits her socially, as figures of propaganda often don't think too hard, or enough to critique the system around them not because they aren't smart enough too (for the most part), but more so because they understand how their world works and understand the consequences that follow when stepping out of line.

You don't have to like Fiyeraba or even find Fiyero interesting, but to purposely ignore what the movie is presenting you is such a cop-out. Fiyero enters the film being a sort of anti-establishment-like character, caring little if he gets kicked out of Shiz for breaking the rules, or just hardly caring in general (something Elphaba calls him out for), and so on. Why wouldn't he be down to rescue the lion? Even if it was to just feed his rebellious streak, he still would have gone, but when he and Elphaba meet, he's on a talking horse and they are conversing like lifelong friends. That might add another layer to the pair saving the lion. Even if he wasn't on the same level as Elphaba at that moment, the train scene shows that it had a profound impact on him that he couldn't shake. I think, had he been presented with the choice of joining Elphaba or staying, he would have gone, not only for her but also because he now knows that the Wizard is a fraud and most definitely wouldn't stand for what he [Oz] is doing. This is what sets him apart from Glinda which, isn't necessarily me hating on her but just stating facts. Glinda isn't/won't be willing to sacrifice her position and what it brings her, until it's too late (which is the tragedy of her character and her relationship with Elphaba), while Fiyero risks everything, even to some extent his own body (Scarecrow) and, in the end, gets to stand with Elphaba.

[media-thots]

I’m thinking about Galinda and her song Popular and how it demonstrates her understanding of how to get what she wants.

This has probably been talked about before, I know. I read the book Wicked but over a decade ago. I knew very little about the musical until now.

Anyway, Popular is about how Galinda decides to alter Elphaba’s social image for the better, to make her popular. Surface level, this just seems to be the typical move of a popular girl, to make the unpopular girl more like herself, to “help” her. But Galinda understands that image is sometimes more important than content, how you are perceived can have more impact than what you stand for. She’s her own best example of this, Galinda stands for no real cause, but she’s molded her image to be seemingly Good, beautiful, and charming, so Galinda is popular. This informs her greater view of how to get what she wants, as in if she’s likable and popular, then she can achieve what she dreams of, magic. It’s always worked for herself before but popularity won’t help her gain the ability to use magic.

Galinda’s perspective of how to achieve what you want is at direct odds with Elphaba’s perspective. Her whole life, Elphaba’s mere existence, her presence has been a disturbance, in more than one sense of the word. She’s naturally done her best to go unnoticed and when that isn’t possible, she will stare down the mockery and derision. In munchkinland, she had no possibility to be popular so she has to achieve what she wants another way. Through pure hard work and talent for magic. And this ultimately leads to Elphaba’s perspective that it doesn’t matter what people think of her, as long as she is doing the right thing.

These differences in perspective ultimately comes to a head with Defying Gravity. Elphaba and Glinda learn the truth of the Wizard, Madame Morrible, and their vilification of the Animals. For Elphaba, there is only one course of action, to tell the truth and stop the Wizard from causing more harm. If this makes her a fugitive then so be it, she will be doing the right thing. But she can do this because she has raw magic power. For Glinda, popularity is power (look at how well that works for the Wizard), if she is hated then she has no power because at the time of this song, Glinda isn’t magically powerful, not like Elphaba. As much as they care for each other and say that their partnership makes them unlimited, Glinda’s decision to stay behind demonstrates that she knows, that as she is right then, she would be of no help to Elphaba’s cause. So they part, heartbroken but accepting of the path the other person chooses.

It’s a catchy song, I understand now why my mom will hum it out of nowhere. But it has so many more layers to it than that, quite like the character who sings it.

Anyway, I had a lot of fun watching the movie and am looking forward to Act 2.

[lonelylittledot]

Wicked

~ a Wicked scholar's thoughts on the movie

Okay. I had detached myself from any feelings about the movie truly years ago, and so I walked into the movie theatre with really low expectations.

My overall opinion: it was not a bad adaptation. I'd expected to give it 3/10, it turned out as a solid 6.5/10.

Here are just a few things that stuck out to me:

The landscapes - didn't hate them but didn't like them.

The costumes - amazing. Pretty much every outfit slayed. I feel like they could have been even a bit more extravagant, but they were great as they were. - As for Elphaba, I think my favorite outfit was the first Shiz dress and the post-Popular outfit. - Glinda's bubble dress was exquisite, and I really liked her Emerald City ensemble, although I do miss the yellow dress, I feel like it doesn't get enough love

I liked Ariana's G(a)linda surprisingly a lot. Maybe it's because I know she's a huge Wicked fan, but I felt like her love for the source material really showed.

I wasn't really sold on Cynthia. Don't get me wrong, she has a truly fabulous voice, and she absolutely did shine in the big, loud parts - but overall, I wasn't a fan of her versions of the songs. She looked and acted great, though.

Michelle Yeoh, the woman you are. Fantastic casting, no notes.

Jonathan. Oh, dear, Johnathan Bailey. Looks? Hot. Vocals? Gorgeous. Vibes? Flawless. I wish he'd played the role a decade ago, because he does look forty and not college-age, but I think everything else about him truly makes up for it.

Speaking of - I liked that Fiyero got just a few tiny little additional scenes/lines, really helped to flesh out his character more.

Grammar-nazi Elphaba, my beloved.

Listen, I have shipped Fiyero and Elphaba since I was 14. And I'm not going to stop now. I stan them, I loved their chemistry in the movie, I will ship them until the day I die.

The direction on G(a)linda/Elphaba - hella gay. But I didn't quite feel their chemistry, neither friendly nor romantic. It was okay, but didn't blow me away.

IDINA AND KRISTEN???? love love love love my og queens

The movie dragged on. A lot. This is my only really big criticism, unfortunately it's a really important one. I think they could easily have made the whole musical into one 3h long movie, and it would have been much better for the pacing. - there weren't even that many added scenes; and a lot of the additions were pretty good, actually - some were totally unnecessary though. like the guards chasing Elphaba and Glinda and the whole balloon shenanigans? - similarly, many scenes were just unnecessarily stretched out; with the camera staying too long in one place or one moment being dragged out way too long - some of the songs just had slightly longer (like 2 bars?) breakes between the choruses added for no reason

Defying Gravity. This is the same thing as one of the previous comments, but I feel like it deserves its separate mention. The pacing in that scene (or, here, more like a collection of scenes) was extremely off, the song losing all of its momentum by being chopped up into pieces. And the way they made us wait for the iconic vocalization at the end; I honestly thought I'd die of boredom.

Sometimes I felt like the movie couldn't decide if it wanted to be more stage-y and theatrical, and lean into the whole campy vibe, or more cinematic and "naturally" acted; and sometimes it switched weirdly between the two.

There was one single thing that looked way better onscreen than onstage. The Lion cub. In the movie, he looked extremely cute, tiny little adorable darling baby kitten. Way better than the creepy-ass puppet they use in the show.

There were many more tasty little details that I simply couldn't remember/write down, or else I wouldn't have been able to pay any attention to the movie. Once it's available, maybe I'll rewatch and dissect it in more detail (I should also finally watch the 1939 Wizard of Oz, it's a CRIME that I still haven't! I'm sure people who know it well could also see many references in the new Wicked - even I noticed the ruby slippers in Popular, for example!).

Summing up this unnecessarily long rant:

It was not a bad adaptation; although I doubt it will make many people into Wicked fans. At the end of the day, it's clearly a story made for the stage, and even though it was transferred to the big screen fairly well, I think it still belongs in the regular theatre, not the movie one.

[amfish]

wicked headcanons/ stuff from the film

Minor wicked spoilers!!!

“Friend? Yes” The pause after friend. She’s so honored that elphie would call her that. She’s proud of it. In that moment, after she is asked if she was friends with the witch, all the memories of them together flooded back. They weren’t just friends. But if that is what they were called, she would bear the title with honor. Only after the gasps did she remember what weight that carried to the citizens. The twisted, distorted being that they were calling “the wicked witch.” They did not see Elphaba. Fabala. Her elphie. They saw a monster. 

Frock. Coat. This simple froat. Boop!1

Magical wise ones remind me of a Vegas fountains show 

Taking about her being green- i see an nose I see a curl theme 

Sweet gelphie moment- because I knew you motif 

Wizards bolo pin. Looks like eye in vines. 

Wizard says “Omaha” and they think he’s speaking a magical language  

“I could care less what others think” I have a feeling this will come back during Couldn’t Be Happier. 

Galinda screams when she gets excited 

Glinda can’t stay up past 11 pm or she becomes manic 

Elphaba gives those she loves poppies. A few days after she “died,” a bouquet of poppies shows up in galinda’s house. 

Galinda hates poppies, but she always kept a fresh bouquet around for elphie

Only those close to elphaba can call her fabala. Only galinda can call her elphie. 

Elphaba put Galinda to sleep with poppies because she knew Galinda would be too scared and rat them out. 

Grommetik would patrol the dorm hallways at night, so Galinda and elphie would cover each others mouths so it couldn’t hear their giggling. Eventually Elphaba cast a silencing charm on their room. 

Galinda would always stand with elphie at animal rights protests and make sure she was safe, even if they were there for hours. 

Galinda loves her hair being played with, so elphie would massage her scalp with her nails until she fell asleep after a bad dream. 

Elphie only lets her hair fully down when they are home alone. Galinda doesn’t ever care if it gets in the way. 

Glinda always does Elphie’s makeup. 

Both of them are freaked out by Tiktocks, but Galinda hates the ones that fly and shrieks when she sees them. Elphie will discreetly knock them out of the air and giggles as Galinda rants and raves as it dies. 

Every time Glinda tosses her hair, elphie will mimic her and Galinda will kick or elbow her 

Galinda has a habit of repeating what other people say when she’s nervous

Wizard, when asked to read the grimerie, recited all 50 US states. The citizens go nuts. 

Elphie would scratch or cut her back to make herself “pay” for what she did to those monkeys. She has long scars by her shoulder blades. 

Galinda has small dimpled scars on her arms and neck from the glass that fell on her.  Galinda is a comphet lesbian and elphie is bi you CANNOT convince me of anything else

[sparehandofgod]

finaly had the chance to watch the wicked movie yesterday and it's all i've been thinking about and of course i had to find a way of making it about starchaser because that's simply what i do so walk with me: it's hogwarts instead of shiz, and it's regulus and james instead of elphaba and glinda, and it's the dark lord instead of the wizard of oz. james potter is all dear galinda you are just too good, stupid rich kid forever perceived as a golden boy, but with a genuinely good heart, so of course he would become infuriatingly infatuated with regulus black the terror, tartar, disgustickified, quiet and ambitious slytherin boy. i am not even a huge fan of the enemies to lovers trope in jegulus but there are so many interesting parallels to explore between these characters and universes, and it's all i've been thinking about as of the last 24 hours. regulus discovering how low voldemort went with the whole horcrux ordeal and deciding to go against him/elphie discovering that the wizard has no real powers & standing up for herselr and what she believes in. regulus dying and james being the only person that Knows the truth that regulus wasn't a bad person, but staying silent about it to protect everyone he loves - and goodness knows i fucking love an everyone is deeply morally gray and trying to survive moment in my starchaser fics.

and because all i think about is the marauders you bet your ass i could incorporate them all into this, too. (i have done it mentally already but one thing at a time)

[totally-lyrical]

you know what i liked about the movie version of wicked?

(because yes, i liked it, quite a lot!)

it wasn't ashamed to be what it is.

so many hollywood musicals are ashamed to be musicals, especially ones made recently, but wicked just... wasn't. it was a movie version of a broadway musical. full stop. and, honestly, i think it worked wonderfully!!!

they did a fantastic job of converting it into another medium, and they played around a lot with costumes, set design, and ESPECIALLY the camera work!!!

(this is a longer post than i thought so i talk more under the cut)

I want to draw attention to a specific song that was done extremely well (NOT popular, god knows thats been played to death, the poor song) "what is this feeling"

GO LISTEN TO IT.

the schtick with this song is that the leadup almost feels like glinda and elphaba are gonna be in lesbians with each other, and then the word at play becomes LOATHING. but!!!! it feels like it would make for a PERFECT romantic reprise. The whole movie i was just WAITING for the music to suddenly halt and for elphaba to say "what is this feeling"

any other hollywood musical movie would absolutely WRECK this song because hollywood executives are fucking COWARDS. but instead, they stayed true, and the movie just... works.

ariana grande was ABSOLUTELY the right choice for glinda by the way, her voice works wonderfully for the character, even if she doesnt sound at all like the original broadway actress.

i also want to draw attention to the movie version of defying gravity (cynthia erivo has the voice of a GODDESS) because!!!! !!!!! !!!!!!!!! !! its SO WELL DONE. the way her cloak-cape is massive and billowing as she flies! the way she has an innate understanding of how to use her broom and it SHOWS! the way the winds of the storm make her look simultaneously divine and, well, wicked! god the way she just makes the classic "clipart witch" look absolutely ETHEREAL. the way how in the final scenes she's framed by the massive windows, making her silhouette stand beautifully against the sunset, while glinda is off to the side more, showing that this is ELPHABA'S moment. augh i love that scene

they took the broadway version and placed it into a medium where they could do MORE with it, could take what they already did well, and then kick it up a couple notches, and it was GLORIOUS.

when i looked at the set design, i just went "yeah, that's what oz looks like. yep makes sense." like that is what you WANT set design to do (and i'd like to mention that i have basically NO knowledge of the world of oz!) and the costume work made the characters interesting and lively, without even really doing anything special!

i understand that usually, things like this are just a low-effort low-budget cash grab, but i could FEEL the care put into making this movie, and i think that says something.

[humorisstoredinthetits]

The Heathers + Veronica go to Comic Con

Once a year the Heathers and Veronica go to their local Comic Con

'Local' is a stretch, its obviously not in Sherwood bc why would anyone in their right mind actually go there, so they drive to Columbus

They make a little trip out of it, none of them want to drive there, spend all day at the convention, and then drive all the way back

They take Duke's jeep bc its the only car that can hold all the crap they buy

Its around a 3 hour drive to Columbus, so they leave around noon the day before

Duke drives, her jeep is her baby and she will not let anyone else touch her under fear of death

Chandler rides shotgun, she gets carsick easily and being in the front helps with that

That leaves Veronica and Mac in the back

Chandler is a backseat driver, she is constantly criticizing Duke's driving, and if she goes even a single mph above the speed limit no one will hear the end of it

She's a massive hypocrite bc her driving is very reckless, but she insists that she knows what she is doing, unlike Duke and her 'monster truck lookin ass car'

Duke of course takes great offense to someone insulting her baby and they have a fight which lasts for five minutes at most before they get over it

Because of this Veronica and Mac bring noise cancelling headphones and nap the entire time

Chandler is also the person who makes them stop every five minutes bc she has to go the bathroom or she's hungry or whatever

By the time they get to the hotel Duke is about to kill Chandler while she's just thankful that the ride is over

They stay at some upscale hotel near the convention center

Once they settle in, they head to the pool with the attached hot tub

Chandler and Mac relax in the hot tub while Duke and Veronica take a dip in the pool

As revenge for being a pain in the ass during the car ride, Duke splashes the cold water onto Chandler and laughs while she flips out

They dry off and head back to the room, where they get to bed early

They have to wake up early to get their cosplays on

Duke and Veronica sleep together while Chandler and Mac take the other bed

Veronica set an alarm for like 3am

When it goes off she has to rush downstairs to get coffee (and tea for Mac) for her gfs so they won't be cranky

They quickly shower and get their cosplays ready

Some of the cosplays they've done include

Kessoku Band from Bocchi the Rock! (Mac was Nijika, Chandler was Kita, Veronica was Ryo, Duke was Bocchi)

Duke had to be Bocchi bc she was the only one who didn't have a character who matched with her color

The Gaang from Avatar The Last Airbender (Mac was Aang, Chandler was Katara, Veronica was Sokka, Duke was Toph)

The original animatronics from Five Nights at Freddy's (Mac was Chica, Chandler was Freddy, Veronica was Bonnie, Duke was Foxy)

Duke and Chandler fought over who got to be Foxy, Chandler said it should be her bc red is her color, but then Duke guilt tripped her and she gave in

Disney Princesses (Mac was Belle, Chandler was Aurora, Veronica was Cinderella, Duke was Mulan)

Originally they wanted to do The Wizard of Oz but then they saw Wicked and Mac really wanted to be Glinda so they went with that (Chandler was the Wizard, Veronica was Fiyero, Duke was Elphaba)

They then cross the street and head to the convention center

Once they get in they head to the Celebrity Area

The convention isn't exactly the biggest or most prestigious, but they still get a decent few celebrities

They brought a few things with them to get signed like funko pops or posters, and they'll spread out and meet who they want to

Veronica refuses to get anything signed by the anime VAs who are there bc she is a sub purist and refuses to watch dubbed

Once they finish up there they'll usually attend a few panels before heading to the Marketplace, which is where they spend most of their time

While they walk around people are constantly coming up to them asking to take pictures bc their cosplays are just that good

They also sometimes see Betty, Martha and JD there

Betty and Martha usually go as Wesley and Buttercup (who could've seen that coming) while JD does just the weirdest ones like Slenderman

They buy so much stuff, it's just crazy

They have to make so many trips back to the room to drop off their stuff so they're able to carry more

Chandler buys the least out of them bc she's the least nerdy, but she gets the occasional poster, figure, or the like, which is something they all get

Mac gets so many plushies

She is trying to collect a plush for every single pokemon, of which there are 1025, so she is constantly searching for the less popular ones and the ones only available in Japan

Duke and Veronica both are looking for collectibles, and they are both running ahead of the other to try and get a rare figure or funko before the other can see it

Duke is also a dice gremlin, and she can spend a good half hour looking through dice, trying to remember if she has this color or pattern already

One time Veronica bought a body pillow and Chandler was just so embarrassed that she refused to talk to Veronica for the rest of the day

Once they've scavenged the convention for all its goodies they'll return to the room and pass out as soon as they take off their cosplay

Once they wake up and have had their drinks they spend an hour trying to fit all their purchases into Duke's Jeep

It's like playing Tetris except they have to be extra careful bc if a box gets damaged then someone is gonna get mad

[festivating]

Elphie + Glinda + Liir family headcanons?? (I’m reading attrition rn and I love itttt)

Omggg happy you're liking it so far!! All of my headcanons will show up in attrition one way or another, so I'll try not to give too much away with these :)

Both Elphaba and Glinda are extremely protective of Liir, but in different ways. Elphaba will physically hurt anyone that hurts him, but Glinda takes the approach of showing Liir how to take care of himself via not looking for trouble and learning how to associate with the right people.

Liir is slow to trust others, because he's used to being picked on/bullied, but he trusts Glinda immediately. He and Elphaba take a bit longer to see eye to eye, but he trusts her blindly too.

Glinda cannot cook to save her life, since she's never had the need to cook for herself, but I like to think she can learn and does in fact try to learn so she can help Elphaba in making family meals.

Liir is not a picky eater, he will eat anything, but it's easy to tell he vastly prefers some meals over others and so Elphaba and Glinda both make an effort to learn how to make those.

I like to think Liir starts picking up both Elphaba's and Glinda's habits without them even trying to instill them on him. Like, as he grows he gets an interest in the things that matter to Elphie like Animal rights and social justice, but he also gets an eye for expensive things like Glinda lol

But because kids are never carbon copies of their parents he has his own things that he likes that Glinda and Elphaba Do Not Get. I don't know what the Ozian equivalent of an emo phase would be, but he would have one.

Activities!! When things are quiet and "normal" I like to think they enjoy spending lots of time together, whether that is going places or just staying at home. Even when he's a child both Glinda and Elphaba genuinely like talking to him.

Glinda and Liir are menaces together. Elphaba has never known a day of peace in her life, especially because when Glinda starts teasing her about anything Liir is always eager to join in.

When something scares him he usually goes to Elphaba because he thinks she's brave. When he's uncertain about something he goes to Glinda because he thinks she's wise.

That super common thing of the child waking up in the middle of the night because of a nightmare and crawling into bed with the parents? Happens a lot. Neither him nor Elphaba are cuddly people, but just being there with them can calm him.

He is easily distracted. Elphaba comes up with the weirdest games to entertain him and he takes them very seriously. "The floor is lava" is a life or death situation. Glinda doesn't get it.

Seeing who can scare Glinda and get her to scream the loudest becomes a regular activity once they start living together. Glinda still doesn't get it, but this one amuses her even if it's at the expense of her sanity.

The three of them have the wildest abandonment issues you can possibly think of, so they're pretty tight-knit. Perhaps almost to an unhealthy degree...

But to end on a fluffy note, they all love each other very much and it shows in different ways. Elphie with her protective streak, and Glinda with her willingness to rearrange her entire life to fit the two of them, and Liir with feeling safe enough to approach them for whatever he needs :)

[talas-first-lady]

I've never had someone to actually talk to about this, so please excuse my word vomit.

But I love book-Fiyero, and I don't love how musical-Fiyero is like 3 men shoved together into one asshole. I think the Glinda-Elphaba relationship seems more clear in the books because they're not actually 'competing' for the same man. Glinda wouldn't touch Fiyero with a 10 foot pole, even if his wife thinks they were having an affair. Glinda's journey is also very different in the books, but I can see value in both versions.

I mostly just feel very strongly what they did to Fiyero. Yet again, a POC book character is whitewashed. (Also, he literally had jewels in his skin, and I think that would be really cool to do with makeup!) I'm sure they did it for simplicity's sake, but I still hate it. Also, the musical gets rid of Shell, which is kinda fair, and Liir, which is not. I love him; he is a bi disaster like his mom.

I also had a question, because you seem to be knowledgeable about the books. I never really understood why the Animals were getting turned into animals. Was that ever explained? Was the wizard just stripping their rights and they weren't actually transforming and I missed it?

Ooh, you ask hard questions. Love it.

Ok, starting with the easy part: no Animals getting turned into animals in the book. That's just a musical thing. The law started treating them as if they were animals (or worse) but they could still speak and think (although some definitely stopped talking so stay under the radar).

I do not miss Shell or Liir at all. I have had quite enough of both of them. Liir might be a bisexual disaster but he was such a boring protagonist.

My feelings about Fiyero are really complicated in the same way as my feelings about the book vs the musical are complicated. I can love both as long as I treat them as separate entities.

I find musical Fiyero genuinely hysterical while I'm watching the show or the movie, and then I go home and literally forget he was even there. I've seen the musical 4 times and I can absolutely tell you what Elphabas and Glindas I've seen, but I can only name 1 of the Fiyeros (and that's because he went on to marry the Elphaba I saw him with). He's just kind of there. He's fun. He doesn't matter.

Book Fiyero is much more interesting and much more essential to the story but he doesn't fit into the musical. I'm ok with that. I'd rather spend an act with Elphaba and Galinda at school than with Elphaba and Fiyero and their affair. I'm glad that the book has room for both. The musical doesn't.

Basically I've made my peace with Fiyero, I guess. He has an awesome name. I can't fault them for reusing it. But he's not the same.

(Also, while his tattoos are awesome, I do think it was a good choice to leave them out if they were going to strip away his tribal background and outsider status. Whitewashing him but keeping the tribal signifier would have been worse, right?)

I guess this is the big thing about Fiyero: they Disney Princified him and put him right in the middle of a love triangle and Glinda and Elphaba STILL come off as being the main love story. He only makes them look gayer.

[tragcdysewn]

hello it's so late because fuck you tumblr but i got it out! if you want to plot, react to this and i'll message you to plot and split up starters!

abigail bishop: abi might be found wandering the edges of the market. she loved the holidays pre turning off her emotions, but she doesn't really care much about them now for obvious reasons. she's not looking to cause problems, but she doesn't really think it'll be anything enjoyable either

ahsoka tano: she is honestly probably making sure no one in her family kills anyone, going to be so real. she likes the holidays and absolutely needs to get gifts sorted for people, but her priority is absolutely making sure this doesn't turn into a ho ho homicide

alice tonner: daisy's two friends both are unavailable right now, and she's not a big warm and fuzzy christmas person anyways. she'll probably be drinking and avoiding the entire thing

allana solo: this is either going to be a really fun date with her girlfriend or an attempt to drag their girlfriend out of her depression cave, but allana will be having a good time either way. any excuse to decorate and buy dumb shit for their friends and family, honestly

ariana dupont: she's got the kids and whatever family members she can get doing the whole vibe. decorating ornaments, ice skating, girl is doing literally everything available and loving it

asmodeus: he's dressing as sexy santa and acting as his boyfriend's personal wallet. that’s all i got. he's very sociable though just approach him for whatever

athenodora volturi: the woman has been out of her tower for a month and you think she's going to a city wide block party? no. be so fucking for real

baxian argos: working security for the event and using breaks to shop for his friends. can you buy a novelty sized bottle of booze here bc that's most of what he's getting for them all

bela dimitrescu: it’s fucking cold she’s not going and nothing will change that

bryce quinlan: she's a sexy elf for sexy santa, because why not, right? definitely here to have a good time, can be found in the ice bar and skating when not being a ridiculous accompaniment to sexy santa

cassie lang: she's probably going with lott which... Yikes, honestly. but she'll probs have a good time even if everyone else observing is suffering. she loves the holidays and will try to get everyone around her to do the same

davina claire: talked her husband into sexy santa while she is running an art booth with a space heater. she won that argument

dewey riley: dewey is alone and depressed this holiday season, expect a bender in his apartment the man is not socializing at all

eleni vanserra: honestly gets a kick out of any season that isn't autumn, but people getting so excited for winter in particular is very charming to her. she'll be happy to try anything you might need a partner for

elphaba thropp: glinda will probably have dragged her to this, and she is reluctantly participating because she knows she can't leave until glinda's done shopping. she will probably complain about it though

eveline: evie is actually really into the holidays? good fake memories and would like there to be good real ones now too. she's never entirely sure how to behave like a person in a big group setting, but she is really going to try super hard

feng xin: he's absolutely dragging his friends to have fun, and probably at least attempting to help xie lian out with his actual booth. but his real priority is making sure his idiots stay sober this year

feyre archeron: eagerly participating in all the kid friendly stuff, and also managing an ornament decorating booth on the side. she's working it a bit, but not nearly as much time as she's spending with the kids

hannibal lecter: i mean... no. he doesn't participate in things like this. will probably throw a very fancy holiday dinner party though. eat at your own risk, none of the food is vegetarian

hazel levesque: she genuinely loves holiday activities now that she has family she can be close to. they will be dragging her brother and friends to every single thing they can think of, so i hope you're all good with that if you hang out with them

he chunyu: i guess she's spending time with fucking ming yi? but honestly the girl gets a kick out of how pretty everything is, even if (in her mind) she doesn't have any family or many friends to enjoy it with

howl jenkins pendragon: dad jokes and buying her kid a disgusting amount of sugar and silly little trinkets that he doesn't need. don't leave dad unsupervised next time, sophie.

james witherdale: he will be going to look for dinner, that's about it. maybe buy a few things for victoria, addie and laurent, but he's not sticking around long

jun wu: another one who does not do things like this, but will probably be dragged into it by nianqing so that the dude doesn't have to spend his own money. he is not happy to be there, and he will not pretend otherwise

kore sekkari: she'll hang out and observe, but it's doubtful she'll participate too much except to antagonize ceres and kaya a little bit. this lovey dovey holiday thing is not her favorite thing to dp

korra: would love to be a sexy santa, but is a woman and therefore cannot. the injustice is real. but they will have a lot of curiosity about the booths and games and all that, catch her poking around everything she can

kriya dura: honestly, she's really trying to have a wholesome family holiday with kaya and brinna, but we’ll see how that goes with her daddy issues going strong. please help her sort through gift ideas because she is so bad at it

lan wangji: he's very neutral on the holidays, but people who are close to him care about them quite a lot, so he'll get some gifts and try to enjoy himself as much as he can

liu mingyan: she's running a booth selling self written horny holiday books. if anyone asks, she is volunteering for some extra cash, and never met the author. but she will absolutely also wander around trying some new food and games

lucifer morningstar: he's seen every christmas since the dawn of time, so he’s kinda bored. but charlie is hype so he'll go all out in support of his daughter's enthusiasm. please help him get something for his kid i beg of you

lute: hates the holidays and has no one she'd want to celebrate with anyways. she will be ignoring that it's even happening

lyra ayala: lyra can one hundred percent be found performing christmas carols and taking requests near the edge of the market. she's not officially part of it, but close enough that she can get a good crowd

lysandra ennar: she will be spoiling their new niece rotten for her first christmas. lys loves shopping and any kind of celebration, and is very excited to explore everything they possibly can

manon blackbeak: nope. not a chance is she celebrating some silly mortal holiday about a big red man with reindeer. she'll go to some kind of dinner or party if her group throws any, but she's not going out of her way

melinoë: she's definitely curious about mortal holidays, and excited to experience anything new on the surface, but she's also absolutely lost. please offer her some assistance the girl is stupid

mj jones: she’s somewhat neutral on it, but she’ll go if she’s dragged tbh. it’s one of those things she’s sure peter would enjoy and knowing he’s not really here right now and they were fighting before it is a bummer

mo ran: he's kind of excited to try more new recipes that he can attempt himself for the restaurant or for chu wanning. otherwise, he's browsing for gifts vaguely

mobei-jun: another one here as a wallet for his weird little boyfriend. but also he fucking loves the winter, and will take any celebration that isn't taking place while it's hot as fuck

monkey d. luffy: newly aware, luffy is having a great fucking time. the man loves any kind of celebration, but especially one he can forcefully drag his little found family into participating in with him

nangong jingnu: she genuinely loves any kind of outdoor festival, and will be trying whatever is available, as well as chatting with any strangers who seem amicable

nie mingjue: honestly is just here to make sure kirei doesn't get herself in any real trouble, what else is he going to do?

nyssa solo: she has no idea what’s going on but is probably involved for the sake of her cover with her family. she's not having fun. not at all. don't say stupid shit

patroclus: probably was dragged by his friends, but doesn’t hate it nearly as much as he pretends to.

qi rong: this man only has any holiday decor because his son wants it around, he will probably make fun of the adults genuinely really enjoying it if he goes at all

renesmee cullen: she's probably having more drinks than she should, but will be having fun about it. will absolutely drag strangers into a snowball fight. it's not powers if you're just naturally faster and stronger, right?

rhiannon matthias: she doesn’t really care about the holidays, but is going hard as hell to keep violet distracted from her bullshit. catch her in a santa hat singing christmas carols

ryden samos: he is kinda lost about all this, because he’s never really celebrated anything like this, but he can enjoy the vibes of it anyways. please explain to him any of this he's so lost

sasha james: it was not her first choice to go to this, she’s definitely unsure about anything put on by this city, but it’s a distraction from The Horrors living at her job

shadowheart: this holiday is not shar approved, so she will be avoiding it like the plague. catch her recruiting people to her cult devoted to the lady of loss and sorrows

sheev palpatine: the vp has no reason to be there, and it's not like his brother would drag him, considering han doesn't care either, so he's not going

shen qingqiu: he has to actually buy things for his friends instead of just giving them cash like he did as shen yuan, please help him the man is terrible at gift giving

shi wudu: he truly doesn't care, but he'll go for qingxuan's sake. doing things that seem stupid to him is part of his attempts at trying to be a decent sibling

thanatos: they don't put a lot of effort into mortal holidays, but they can't help but be charmed by the ones that are so centered on showing your loved ones they're loved. they're also incredibly curious, and have to check it out a little bit

wen qing: surprise, festivals are fun when your creep uncle isn't overseeing them and watching your every move. she's honestly really enjoying this one, and they'll be doing a ton of shopping for friends and family

xaden riorson: he promised his foster dad he'd come home for christmas, so he has to get gifts. he's not thrilled about it, but he's gonna make it work

xiao lanhua: she loves this, and will be dragging strangers into hanging out with them as much as possible in between working sophie's stall. will probably drink a little too much

xiao qing: will try to rob people, but is also working a few stands for legitimate money so dad doesn't give them the disappointed voice

ziva desilijic tiure: not going, be so for real. she's celebrating with an expensive dinner and a glass of wine

[zalrb]

The way I see it, Elphaba has been asked to hold back her entire life in order to earn the chance to be accepted. Not to be accepted, but to earn that chance.

It's easy to see this with her father.He transformed Elphaba into Nessa's caretaker, the few times he addresses her everything revolves around Nessa, she is only useful to him in that role. Nessarosa on the other hand struck me as strange because she seems to be subtly mean to her sister, like that moment at the ball when she seemed to want sympathy for having Elphaba as a sister (which is interesting because the film also establishes that she recently had sympathy for being disabled).

I think the movie does a pretty decent job of establishing that Elphaba wants to be a change-maker, a desire that competes with wanting to be accepted (and I think that's an interesting parallel to Glinda) and that desire is captured in the form of the Wizard and Dr. D (in whom he also seems to seek a father figure). My problem is that all of that remains in question and is not explored.

The Dr. doesn't allow her to join the cause or learn more, he constantly pushes her away (which I think is his attempt to protect her) and when he is being expelled he tells her to stay calm. Figero It could have been interesting if they developed their relationship because he constantly asks her "why so defensive" and she is the accidental instigator of him reflecting but everything remains in a conversation. And after the party everything moves too fast, which hurts the part in the emerald city, Elphaba simply finds out that the Wizard is a fake the same day she meets him.

There is helplessness in the role that Elpha is supposed to play. A marginalized character who doesn't fit in with other marginalized people, a would-be activist who is asked to remain silent, a lonely soul yearning for company, but they are not allowed to delve into that.I think that if they had extended a little more the fact that in Glinda's company there is a certain acceptance and they would have shown a greater conflict with Elphaba spending more time with the wizard and doubting the decisions he makes and what he is teaching her, the character would have felt more complete. It creates a real conflict and doubts about whether to follow her principles and her heart or to have the love she has always longed for.

Yes, I can see that. But this is my issue

There is helplessness in the role that Elpha is supposed to play. A marginalized character who doesn't fit in with other marginalized people, a would-be activist who is asked to remain silent, a lonely soul yearning for company, but they are not allowed to delve into that

I don't think the movie really showed this conflict. I think the movie focused more on Glinda's conflict. "A would-be activist who is asked to remain silent", I don't actually see her struggle with this. "A lonely soul yearning for company" we do see this on a perfunctory level but not enough for it to feel like anything other than an idea rather than an actual arc Elphaba has to go through. It was more like, who wouldn’t want to be accepted when this is their daily life as opposed to it being this tangible desire for Elphaba.

I think the movie does a pretty decent job of establishing that Elphaba wants to be a change-maker, a desire that competes with wanting to be accepted

I actually don't think the movie did a decent job in showing that the two of those things compete for Elphaba. I think what the movie does a decent job in showcasing is that she's marginalized but that's about it.

[danyxpop]

A Wicked Movie Review. 🧹

Okay, so let me start off by saying I've never seen 'Wicked" on Broadway and I'm not a fan of musicals. But ever since I became obsessed with the movie "Wonka". I thought musicals were going to start growing on me. So considering it's a Broadway classic and the trailer looked very visually pleasing I decided to give the movie a shot.

The" Good": I LOVED "Elphaba" Cynthia Erivo's character. She's everything I expected her to be, smart, witty and kindhearted. But my absolute favorite was "Fiyero" played by Jonathan Bailey. He has the most fun and uplifting scene ( My favorite moment of the whole movie was when he flirts with the librarian)!

*Spoilers Ahead*

The Bad:

I didn't like the story or "Glinda" (Ariana Grande). I was expecting to see a really sweet friendship between Glinda and Elphaba. But their friendship seemed completely one-sided. It seems to me that Glinda was only nice to Elphaba just because it made her look "good". Even at the end when Elphaba finds out that The Wizard and Madame Morrible were just using her for her power. I think Glinda should have helped Elphaba do the right thing instead of trying to convince her to stay, if she was really "good". Even in the beginning, when Glinda announces the wicked witch's death, she acts like the munchkins are beneath her. I don't know, if her personality changes in "part 2" or if it turns out she's just faking it to help Elphaba in some way. But I didn't like her personality at all.

The movie was too long and it had a few parts that were definitely unnecessary. Every time a musical number would start, I would kind of dread it, a little too "Broadway". The only one I did like was the very last one "Defying Gravity". That one was cool.

I think you'll only really enjoy this film, if you've watched the play or know the story. Otherwise, I think you're better off spending your money and time elsewhere. Oh well, I guess musicals aren't growing on me after all. But I do plan to see the second one, just to see what happens. Make of that what you will. LOL 🍭