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sunnymainecoonx · 8 months ago
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Can u guys tell I like setting up different interpretations of the same character together yet
I've done so with swap(he's the most obvious one) and I've done so with horror. And now dusts on that list too. I have had thought of others like ink but, maybe another time
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tzarrz · 2 years ago
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to all people who said PART 1 made them laugh - i lov u 💗 this is for u
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sincerelyrf · 7 months ago
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me: *seeing people yell about how they did Glintshore & Percy's death in the show*
also me: ..................anyway
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foxstens · 10 months ago
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idk i just think their relationship is one of the most interesting in the entire series
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dittomander · 2 months ago
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every once in a while I think about how impossibly lonely the amigos must have been before they found each other and I cry
Elena obviously was in the amulet for 41 years, in total isolation save for her one-way interactions with the amulet's wearers, not knowing if there were any survivors among her family and old friends, and then came back into a world that had moved on without her and changed so much while she was gone
Mateo spent most of his childhood studying magic alone, with no mentors or really any sort of support network, because it's not like he could talk to anyone about what he was doing. he would've grown up seeing his identity propagandized against, and as the de facto Last of His Kind
Naomi spent an indeterminate amount of her life traveling. we don't know where she lived or for how long, but it's likely she would've struggled to make meaningful, long lasting friendships. her one established pre-series friend is very long distance, and she's ready to call Elena her best friend 3 episodes in, which kinda suggests she doesn't have many strong connections in Avalor
Gabe has a pretty good rapport with the other guards, but it's also implied that he's one of the youngest members, if not the youngest outright, and he doesn't have any kind of military background, and being the odd one out like that can be incredibly isolating. like, what did the training period look like? he also explicitly has an extremely unsupportive parent at the start of the show
like man it's no wonder they latched onto each other so quickly. loneliness is absolute hell.
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buddiesmutslut · 6 months ago
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I know I've said it before, but I think this upcoming episode is going to be so interesting, even if we don't get Queer Eddie OR BT Bones (neither of which I'm fully convinced are going to happen on Thursday), & it's really for this one interesting phrase that Ryan & Oliver have both used.
They have both mentioned "rose-colored glasses" when it comes to Tommy & Shannon, and I would argue that they each have to reckon with these relationships before we can have any movement towards Buddie.
Eddie thinks that Shannon was the love of his life, that he failed her and has to carry that guilt with him for the rest of his life. I believe that Eddie placing Shannon on a pedestal is partially what's stopping him from realizing his queerness (along with the catholic guilt and repression, but a lot of that is also tied up in Shannon & their failed marriage.)
Buck's convinced that his big feelings last season were all about Tommy, and I'm not saying that some of them weren't, but I don't think it'd be too far of a stretch to say that he figures that he's in this relationship now and that obviously everything is fine now. He figured out this part of himself and he's dating a man and that means everything is Fine and he absolutely does not need to do any further digging or searching or learning, despite the fact that he and Tommy don't really seem to like each other all that much, nor do they seem to be all that compatible.
Buck has to reckon with the fact that realizing his bisexuality and immediately jumping into a relationship with a man that he wasn't even sure he wanted (his speech at the coffee date) might not be the solution to all the problems he's had, and Eddie has to deal with the fact that Shannon was not perfect, that what she did was not the same as what he did, that she's responsible for her own actions and that this romanticized vision he has clung to of their lives is not real and is not consistent with the actual relationship that they had.
There's a Divorce Arc this episode - which I'm begging does something with Eddie - and an uncomfortable truth learned about Tommy's past; it's not completely out of left field to assume that the Rose-Colored Glasses come off this episode.
And the fact that it's happening for them BOTH, at the same time? In the relationships that I think are the biggest obstacles to them realizing/accepting their feelings for each other???
I'm never fully convinced they're actually going to go there with these 2, but it will be SO interesting to see how this episode plays out, regardless.
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slobbykitty · 2 months ago
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kenny and kyle getting to be really close friends after stan moves out of town... they're still buddies with cartman but spend a lot of time in pairs, and not as a trio, bc the trio doesn't feel right if stan doesn't have the option to be there, and kyle keeps getting quiet and weird which freaks cartman out and makes kenny more caretaker than buddy.... sighs
anyways. kyle and kenny walking around really late at night on some kind of influence and just laughing and shooting the shit and listening to stupid music and dancing in the street. they're annoying but its the closest either of them gets to feeling like a normal teen
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inchidentally · 5 months ago
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just a thought, we know now that the grid dinner was at a japanese restaurant so obviously sushi’s on the menu, i wonder if oscar intentionally avoided ordering anything fish-y bcs lando was sat right next to him
😖✊🏻 aghsbsshjshhs
I mean he gave up eating salmon at the engineer's table and then gave it up for his breakfast for Lando which makes me absolutely insane bc that's smth so specific and pointed and sweet that should only happen in fic but !!
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necrotic-nephilim · 10 months ago
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What's so fun about BruJay as a ship is Jason's sheer obsessive devotion to Bruce. Jason is possessive over Bruce, to the point he doesn't care about the deaths of others so long as he has Bruce's attention. A part of the UTRH arc this isn't talked about enough is that Bludhaven fucking explodes mid-way and Jason won't let Bruce see if Dick is alive.
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batman (1940) #650
A lot of discussion about UTRH paints Jason as this anger-driven cold, calculating machine up against Bruce when it's so clear that his love for Bruce is what drives him at his root, even if he won't acknowledge it. He says it himself, he would've done anything if it was Bruce who'd died instead of him and his anger is rooted in that possessive devotion not being reciprocated.
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batman (194) #650
BruJay as a ship always to be, to some level, unrequited. Even if Bruce loves Jason back in that way, he'll never be that obsessed with Jason. Jason will always view Bruce's love for Dick or Tim to be a distraction, proof that Bruce isn't dedicated enough to him. Jason has the need to always have Bruce's attention, even when it could come at the cost of Bruce's other loved ones. Something something cannibalism as a metaphor for love in how Jason wants to consume Bruce's whole existence. He can't let Bruce leave him again, can't let Bruce love or grieve anyone else. Forcing Bruce to choose between Jason and the Joker isn't just about confronting Jason's killer, it's about confronting the other person who exists as this duality with Bruce and consumes so much of Bruce's life. That's the role Jason wants to fill, calling himself Red Hood and forcing Bruce to look at what he's become. But still loving Bruce and wanting more than anything for Bruce to reciprocate that love in the way that Jason understands. I just think it's good soup and rife with Dynamics that are underexplored with them.
#necrotic festerings#brujay#jaybruce#jaybru#jason todd x bruce wayne#batcest#i've had this thought in my head for a while#i was just weirdly shy about posting it? like convinced myself it's not as verbose as some of my other thoughts#also GOD why is the art of this arc SO BAD.#i can't take it SERIOUSLY#i hate looking at it.#the faces. why are the faces like that.#brujay needs more love bc jesus#gotham war had some good brujay content but i am still too bitter to discuss that shitshow. so. ignoring it for now.#bruce changing jason's brain chemistry as an act of love is the most FUCKED UP brujay thing ever tho#it's so Them.#sorry that is just peak brujay. they are incapable of meeting in any middle and always trying to change each other.#maybe this meta should've been about that.#but then i'd have to use new-52 and rebirth panels so eh. nvmd.#this page makes it seem like i hate post-flashpoint comics. i don't i swear#they just interest me less for batcest.#like oh yay everyone's getting along and working together.#it only came at the expense of throwing away decades of character work. small sacrifice.#i need to stop posting meta at fucking 5 am.#no one is going to see this bc i can't be a normal person.#wrote this while watching invincible#which is pretty good so far but man the ending of ep1 clocked me. i was absolutely bamboozled.#i had something else i was going to say in the tags but i lost it.#anyway most of this is a ship post and projecting shit as per usual and yk. not serious comic media.#i'm just silly and gay.
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lofi-bear · 2 months ago
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anyways everyone look at my spacer war hero "crumbling under the pressure of being the perfect alliance legacy golden girl" commander shepard and her murder chickenbug boyfriend
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akkivee · 3 months ago
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day 3's numbers with a 1-2 number margin of error!!!! maybe we're heading towards equilibrium already lol
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soo-won · 3 months ago
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Nobody is asking Yona to sacrifice herself or stay with the dragons forever. That's not why ppl are upset with her imo. What's disappointing was that when the gods say Kouka would turn into hell, we didn't saw any hesitation in her. She could've argued w them or showed some determination like: "hey, I won't let you play with me or my country no matter how hard you try" something she did while zeno was trying to kill himself. But no she's like oh hell sounds fun as long as I'm with my family. She even hesitated when Hak's life seems at stake. So what does it mean? And there's is a difference between her running away from the gods vs Suwon not depending on the gods. She's ok to enjoy the blessings but when it comes to pay back, she's running away. Yona acted like a selfish brat like she used to be in the castle, which is disappointing if we consider her development in the past
I'm not gonna lie in this case I feel like people are just looking for something to be mad at her. Like, in chapter 257, I was more bothered by Yona not hesitating because the consequences of that decision were 100% assured and known : all the dragons of the past waiting and suffering in vain until the current generation. And the whole time paradox twist was a lot to process and swallow in a few pages, that Yona's reaction felt sudden too. I wanted to see her hesitate then because I was affected as a reader by the twist that it was technically Yona that made the cycle happen? Even if from her POV it was about not erasing the past like damn that's a lot.
But the circumstances are not the same at all here imo. Yona has been in this chalice for like an entire volume. She tried already to negociate with the gods. It didn't work. They went against their words. They hurt the dragons. She tried everything she could here. They're basically bullying her, they keep tormenting her, she's not getting through them at all. Yona is affected and upset when they tell her about the dragons' limbs. She came here to begin with to save them, she made a deal with the gods that made her stuck inside the chalice against her will but supposedly in exchange of the dragons being freed, and now she realizes that even that failed and that they lost body parts. It's devastating. And Yona looks sick of it. From this point, it's clear to me she realized it's useless trying to get anything from them, because she won't. They're only toying with her and her feelings. All she can do is leave with them and defuse. There's NOTHING she can do more from the heavens, she can't ask the gods to save the dragons and even less protect Kouka.
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Yona has been having nightmares about natural disasters and wars breaking out since chapter 257, she's already past hesitating about this too. So I don't mind she doesn't hesitate for it here. Yona in chapter 257 was scared of even falling asleep because she was scared of this future where she's all alone and it's hell everywhere. But she can only stop it by facing it and standing against it. It didn't happen yet, she has to keep her eyes open... She already learned this lesson. As we've seen with Yona protecting Hak from Zeno, her nightmares can be prevented, but this won't be if she stays still in heavens. Staying in a peaceful garden and shivering because intervening outside could cause more problems is much more like Yona of the beginning before her development, than Yona leaving to live in Kouka and fight against problems arising there. Yona was told her existence and actions were a pain that could create more problems at different occasions, and her conviction has always been to make her own place in the world anyways. Before she asks for the gods' divine protection, she should face her own fears and try to do something herself...that's how she always worked. She has always refused to rely on the gods alone.
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The motif of living outside and in not the most comfortable place but finding purpose in getting through struggles together has been a thing forever that Yona's reaction about life outside being preferable only seems natural to me. I don't know... Her hesitating here would have felt redundant and would have surprised me. Yona has long ago developed the conviction that she finds more purpose in life in the struggles and difficulties because of all the people reaching out their hand to help, than her peaceful and confined, lonely days in the palace. She always found more purpose in helping people on the ground than to take decisions from above. Even in the castle and south kai arcs it was visible how she wanted to go help prisoners herself, and the way she went to rescue Meinyan shows it well too. I don't want her to hesitate for this. She already said she'd rather live in the mud in chapter 263 too. That's the most Yona thing ever imo, it makes me happy personally. It doesn't need to be said she's concerned for others, and she will keep running to their help to do something with her own hands. I don't need her to hesitate because personally I have no conflicted feeling about the situation and I think Yona is 100% right, here. I have no doubt she is intelligent enough at this point to say this too.
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You could argue it would have been better if she had a speech like the one she had in chapter 43, and I can't argue about that (it's true it's very good!). I can understand, I just personally don't need it, because the fact chapter 43 exists is enough in itself to me and the present automatically resonates with it and everything before. I can't be mad at Yona not saying word for word "I'm going to save people struggling outside" because I already know that. I personally don't need that reassurance at this point.
The chapter shows her being concerned for Kouka and everyone on Earth when she flies on Ouryuu's back. Yona always planned to return from the chalice for everyone and everything she left behind on Earth. Of course she's concerned. She wants to bring her friends back from the chalice AND help everyone in Kouka. She promised Yun she would come back with everyone, she planned to return to Suwon too and not abandon her duties as Princess. All these things exist inside of her. Anyways, Yona doesn't need to tell the gods to stop toying with her country like she did with Zeno before too, because the ways things are presented, it seems like it's not like the gods cause this on purpose either? It's a consequence of everything going to shit, and it's also Ouryuu who is on her side talking to her before she says she prefers hell than here. So she doesn't reply angrily, she replies with hope. That's why that page is beautiful too, imo. The gods might not see and understand the value in such a world that Hiryuu and Yona are so fond of. But they can't help but love this messy, "hellish" world. Talking angrily to the gods didn't work in ch263/264 either, so I feel like it was also her trying a different approach when she told them she would live in Kouka maybe? Like she doesn't want to let herself be affected and be upset by them and she simply, intransigently voices her intentions to them?
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You say you don't want her to sacrifice herself and stay with the gods forever, but also accuse her of "running away" from the gods and call her a selfish brat for her reactions in this chapter, so I really don't understand your point here. How on earth is Yona supposed to not depend on the gods in this situation but by not making a deal with them? Staying in Heavens, contract done to protect Kouka from doom and ending it at that (because she would be stuck there) would be truly the coward move imo. Yeah she's turning back and trying to get out of Heavens but... it's...good to stop moving forward and further if doing so brings you to extreme loneliness and/or death I think...? I think that's the point...Getting desperate, leaving everything behind and sacrificing more and more of your true wants and isolating yourself has been a pattern that never brought anything good to the characters that tried before. She struggles and things didn't happen as expected, many things are still unresolved, but she can only do so much in this situation. She tried. She tried discussing with the gods, asking them to free the dragons, to let her out. It didn't work, it was a blow on her when they forced her under a sea of flowers, when they tried torturing Zeno, and when she learned the dragons got injured. From that, she adapted and tried to leave. That's it.
I think Yona wavering when they threaten to kill Hak and what it means is pretty simple and is no secret. Yona loves and cares about Hak. Hak is someone important, personal and intimate to her, so obviously she's not unaffected. Yona from the very beginning has been trying to get stronger and do all she could to protect Hak again and again. Losing people dear to her is what scares her more than anything, it always has been so, even if it coexists with her caring about the world around her too. And you know, even if Hak is special to her, I honestly think that if the gods had threatened the lives of the dragons and not only their limbs, Yona would have been affected too. She would have also faltered had they threatened the life of people she doesn't know in the same terms. It's just extra cruel to use Hak in particular against her. It shows again the gods atp are only interested in destroying everything that might be connecting Yona to Earth. It's the exact same form of abuse that Chagol used against Meinyan. It's about isolating her. It's also not really the same as claiming people will die without the gods' divine protection that is more like a potential consequence than a term of a contract like it is at the end of the chapter. She can stand against conflicts outside and protect people there, but what can she do against Hak just, being killed by divine intervention if she doesn't return to heavens (supposedly)? They fucking coerce her here. Maybe it's just bluff, and she should not give a fuck about Hak and still leave. After all, what is one person against the world and her freedom! But well, she cares. She never discarded her loved ones and never compromised Hak and her friends' life. She never compromised the life of anyone really (which is different from sparing and refusing to kill anyone). That's who Yona is. Yona doesn't sacrifice and compromise people's lives, That's why she wants to save everyone AND wants to go home. And that's why she's stuck now. Yona wants to live. But she can't sacrifice someone innocent either, especially not someone she loves. It's the perfect dilemma for her. And that she's forced into it is what is heartbreaking. She shouldn't have to choose. That's why she needs help now.
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Bringing up payback like this rubs me a bit in the wrong way...This damn idea of paying back is what has been haunting the narrative for so many years i can't conceive repeating it for Yona too. To me it comes from the same mindset that asks for retribution, punishment and karma for every character that upset Yona in some way or should be grateful and kneel to her and Hak that has been so sickening for so long. I don't want anyone to be forced to pay anything back ever. Every character should get all the help and support they need for free at all times imo. I don't think Yona nor the dragons should have to pay such a harsh price either. Because that's what a blessing is. That's what love and kindness are. That's what wishes are. If the gods really cared for Hiryuu, they wouldn't ask her anything in return, they wouldn't torment her, they wouldn't punish the dragons either. It can just...stop. (Because yes this favor shouldn't be at all to begin with) Which is what Yona wants.
Aren't we so tired of all this "contracts" and "punishment" and "paying back" bullshit by now? I so am. It's exactly what has been ruining the lives of the characters forever and now (and my mental health as a reader lol). She's paying back right now by being in this situation already. And that's not a good thing at all. It's very good narratively though because yeah, they want her to pay back! They make this about contract when she was asking a favor! She's paying the price for her decision in ch257, for ever using the dragons, for entering the chalice as Hiryuu's reincarnation...But it's nothing but sad. There doesn't need to be this payback. That's what the story is exploring. Looking for the dragons to survive (whom she never forced, even if yes they were bound by their contract thing) and protect Hak is not a crime, not erasing the past to save her friends isn't so evil that she deserves to sacrifice herself. Making it end is enough. It may be selfish that yeah she enjoyed the good parts of it until it bothered her but honestly I think it's okay lol. As long as it ends. As long as no one has to pay back anything for doing their best to survive and struggling to protect something. Like Meinyan doesn't need to apologize or to pay back anyone for all she did and was done for her, just like Suwon doesn't need to be even and be punished, like Shinah doesn't need to executed for attacking Suwon, like Zeno doesn't need to be punished for betraying Yona and the ddhhb, etc... Because it's better to look at the bigger picture and at people's circumstances you know...That's how I interpret this arc, at least.
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Yona doesn't pay back by sacrificing things, she "pays back" by giving back out of gratitude. That's precisely what she does by doing all she can to save the dragons right now. The dragon warriors gave her so much without ever asking anything back, they saved her from danger and they saved her from despair, she's so grateful and loves them so deeply she wants to bring them happiness too. But Yona can't give the Gods what they want without sacrificing important things to her, and not when they're the way they are now. So she can only leave.
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Of course Yona/Hiryuu alone getting this treatment from the gods was always unfair and it shouldn't be at all, especially not at the cost of so many dragons suffering for so long. But well, she did. And when learning how this "favor" was hurting the people around her, she was affected, grieved it in ch253/254, and then she opposed it and tried to stop it in the present. (Also she's been concerned by the dragons' use of their powers for a very long time even if she doesn't go deeper) But the gods don't care. You can blame her for not questioning things more before, I'm critical of this too, I still conflicted about chapter 257 as well, plus everything irt the crimson illness etc but like, she says it, she doesn't want their powers if that's the price. She only wants the human them. She doesn't need the dragons' powers and she doesn't need the gods' protection. When she throws away Hiryuu's sword they give her, it's her rejecting that again. She doesn't want that special power and favor, that's not what she's asking. She wants agency and power, but not at the price of the agency and free will of others. She wants everyone to have normal lives where they can decide things for themselves, to live with their whole free will. That's her development in this arc. I like that she finally faces these things.
Maybe it's just a question of preference, and you might be affected by Yona's reactions in a way I can't relate. But personally I like the chapter this way and I like Yona in it. I don't think she's a selfish brat (god. it's...such a thing to call her honestly it irks me sorry, despite all criticisms I have of her character.) I don't think she doesn't care about Kouka and its people at all. Ive seen people say that too but...Even if yes Yona is still a 16 years old girl with struggles and feelings and still some immaturity which is important to take into account, I don't think she's as childish and inconsiderate as people make her either. People often seem to say her reactions and decisions are emotional and with no reason but I think they're emotional AND with reason, at least here. Yona doesn't say this about Kouka struck by disasters being preferable than Heavens from emotions alone (because yes, she just wants to go home and she genuinely loves the people in Kouka), but also from experience and conviction. They don't cancel each other out. It doesn't make her a hypocrite to have personal interests in it too.
#akayona thoughts#any spoilers#yona#yona can care about her friends first my king will take care of the country#cousins of cleaning each other's mess...really i just feel sm peace in my heart when i think of the way they rely on eo and support eo now.#suwon who can also follow his heart more and return to kuuto bc he knows yona will come back oughhh...i care so much...#i have to confess i really see no difference between yona 'running away' from the gods and suwon not depending on them.#like suwon doesnt run away from them bc the gods arent...running after him and don't love him. so his refusal to use their powers is that#but for yona to not depend on them she has no choice but to run away. they keep chasing her now. and pushing her to depend on them#they hate suwon but at least suwon is free on this regard lol. for now at least. mom im scared#and when the narrative pushed and forced the dragons and yona on him he had to accept it too in the end. painfully.#it was part of the process...it's all part of the process....(head in hands)#and even when you had like dragon shinah suwon didnt avoid it and run. was that the good mature thing to do bc it was payback?#if it is i wish he was more of a selfish brat too then! i wish he had ran for it! it's not mature and selfless to me it's just...suicidal.#heartbreaking. painful. sad. tragic. makes me throw up everywhere.#so i'm glad yona is the way she is. one suwon is enough.#and no suwon is not enough at all. save me suwon#im not gonna lie having to like...break down yona's every thought word and action was tiring and not very enjoyable to me here.
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goldentigerfestival · 3 months ago
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One of my favorite things about Fluri is how both Yuri and Flynn talk each other up but don't always tell each other those things. They always talk so fondly and with so much pride about each other to other people. And ultimately, I don't think they need to tell each other. They show each other with their actions anyway, and if you really care about someone so deeply, you won't just say it. You'll show it.
When Flynn sees Yuri so distraught at Nordopolica, trying to understand what he's doing and trying to make him see that what he's doing is the same things they hate from the empire (which he literally points out), Flynn listens and considers the situation (he admits in a skit afterward that he did think about and consider what Yuri told him). When Flynn is distraught because Yuri won't take credit for anything he's done that Flynn's gotten credit for, Yuri won't take credit but he does offer to let Flynn express his emotions in a way that's handled between only the two of them - with swords, and expressing their feelings through a battle - a battle you, as the player using Yuri, can lose and get dialogue for. Not every example of course, but just a couple in passing.
In general they always have good things to say about each other, but they have their own way of expressing their feelings to each other directly. They're up front and honest with each other. They expect that the other will call them out if they fuck up. They won't let each other go down a dangerous path without warning the other. But along the way, they make sure to get the word out about the other's good heart.
Plus, on Flynn's end, he has a very high opinion of Yuri, but Yuri doesn't have a high opinion of himself. If Flynn wants to say something good about Yuri, his best bet is to tell someone else. On Yuri's end, he's very proud of Flynn's willingness to protect people and their home, but Flynn has complicated feelings about his position in the knights (such as becoming commandant bc of Yuri's actions, or because early into the story, he feels he can't do enough because his ranking isn't high enough. So no matter what, Flynn ends up in a tough spot because of his position). It's easier for Yuri to talk Flynn up to other people.
It's like when, as I've talked about before, in the jail switching scene, Yuri jokes that Flynn is trying to abandon him. Flynn never tells Yuri this, but he later tells Don, "I had no intention of abandoning him". Heck, in that way, Flynn makes the entire reason for stopping the war sound like it's because he had no intention of abandoning Yuri, and not for the war itself. Obviously the whole point of the swap was to stop the war, but when Don remarks that he didn't expect Flynn to come back, Flynn's stated reason to the leader of Dahngrest isn't "I had to stop this war from happening", or "I had to stop my people from dying", or "I had no intention of abandoning my people", or even, "I had no intention of abandoning my people and Yuri".
It's, "I had no intention of abandoning him" (literally, he makes it about Yuri by saying "him", leaving it implied but obvious to Don who he's referring to: あいつを見捨てるつもりは、はなからありませんので). Honestly? I think this is such a powerful statement by not using Yuri's name. There's something about the inherent obviousness of him not even needing to specify. Don already knows they're close because of the swapping, but what really gets me here is that Flynn looks Don in the eyes when he speaks, and it's this vibe of like... "him. You know who I'm talking about".
Flynn and Yuri's dynamic when together, when they're on good terms with each other and themselves, such as in arc 3, is silliness, happiness, and lighthearted teasing. Their bickering is about very inconsequential stuff at that point (such as the skit where they're arguing over how they use their artes). They aren't good at taking compliments though, especially from each other, so they save those compliments and tell other people so that other people will have a higher opinion of them. Yuri literally borderline brags about Flynn saving their home from Heracles.
There's a point where I just feel like... it's more powerful to say the really good things about someone when they're not there. Like of course you wanna say good things to them while they are there too, but it's not just "only when they're there". They'll still say the best things about each other where the other doesn't hear it and will never even know about it because those are their real feelings. They don't reserve the compliments just so each other can hear them. They speak them freely to anyone, because their feelings are so genuine and sincere that they don't need the other to be there to speak them. Heck, even in the 360 ending, Flynn doesn't need anyone there to speak his honest, true feelings about Yuri ("you are my pride, dear friend" / 君こそ僕の誇りだよ。親友).
Even when Flynn's complaining about Yuri's lifestyle to other people, it's because he cares enough. He's worried and aggravated that Yuri lives like that. If he didn't care he wouldn't say anything, but he talks to other people about it when he knows it won't get through to Yuri. He also talks about Yuri's best qualities to people. Worth noting imo is that his complaints usually go to people like Hanks - people who live around them and know them personally. When Estelle and Ioder meet Yuri, they've heard the good things. Basically, Flynn tells the "right" things to the "right" people. He makes sure that the people with powerful standings who don't know Yuri well hear the best things about him.
His tells his aggravations to people who are basically family, like Hanks. He sometimes vents his frustrations on accident in front of others if Yuri's already there, such as at Torim, but he immediately backtracks in Estelle and Ioder's presence to explain why he has these grievances, and it helps to avoid painting a bad picture of Yuri (who at this point, Ioder is only just meeting, and he's noticeably quiet in the scene, as if he's watching and learning and just taking in what's happening to make his own decisions. The next time he meets Yuri in Heliord, it's clear he's made up his mind on where he stands about Yuri).
I'm mainly bringing up Flynn here because he's out of the party and away from it for most of the game (and out of it entirely in the 360 version except for one battle), so Flynn's feelings on anything about Yuri are often told through other people, but his feelings come across just as powerfully when he's present. When Yuri talks about Flynn we see it because Yuri's always there in the party, but Flynn's feelings are just as strong. And, frankly, for how much we hear "Flynn told me/said xyz about you", Yuri babbles on about Flynn just as much. Just, again, we as the players are present for that more often because Yuri's always there.
Ultimately I just... really love how often they talk about each other (Flynn does so offscreen plenty, enough that Ioder had a very good idea about Yuri's personality before even really knowing him too well, meaning Flynn literally babbles proudly about Yuri to both imperial candidates at any given moment offscreen LOL). The other doesn't have to be there, because they're thinking about each other anyway. They have good things to say and don't need the recognition of the person in question hearing it. It's just truly how they feel.
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volivolition · 7 months ago
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wiggles my fingers at you ouuuu… you want to tell me about solace so bad…
HKJGG wiggles my fingers back lovingly!!! i really do, i fuckin LOVE solace :3 hey did you know i really like making fake skill descriptions?
SOLACE
Follow the north star. Find light in even the darkest places. Cool for: Optimists, Recovering lost souls, Sweet summer children
Solace is the skill you tucked away long ago, at the bottom of Pandora's box. The little one that tells you: despite it all, there is still hope. It needs a lot of nurturing -- and it's far from being the most helpful for police work -- but taking care of it is basically self-care. It enables you to find the glow in yourself that you often ascribe to gold lungs or brilliant halos in others. It encourages you to wake up and watch the sunrise, to play board games with someone you love, to forgive yourself and let yourself be a gentler kind of animal. Constantly looking forward to a brighter future, it also helps shield your morale from damage.
At high levels, Solace gives you a heightened sense of childlike optimism - which isn't always the sense to lead with in this precariously harsh world. Always looking for the bright side will blindside you with naivety. At low levels, however, you may just extinguish whatever keeps your soul alight. You've already lost her once. You may not survive the desolation if you let her disappear again.
#i wanted to draw a skill portrait for her for this but [gestures vaguely at life] i hope this is cool enough hkjgkj <33#solace is truly voli's ''keep going. there's still hope for us'' and echem's ''we can be happy again! let's go find joy wherever we can''#this is why i keep saying she's their kid hkjgh she covers the happy medium of both of their ideologies. hope for a happier future.#harry goes to the store and finds a pair of pink heart shades that gives her ''+1 Rose Colored Glasses'' :3#i feel like theres some mechanic that keeps her from gaining too many points. a locked skill cap or maybe she can lose skill points??#hm. considers this.#echem voice ''i can't believe i'm saying this but we really can't drink alcohol anymore. it's bad for the baby :(''#ALSO. THIS IS ONE OF MY MORE SELF INDULGENT WORKS SO IF IT SEEMS OOC IN ANY WAY THAT'S BC THIS IS MY COMFORT FIC HGKJKJ#i know sometimes i write skill relationships too sweet and the world too kind and the game too unrealistically...#i know shivers said the end of the world is in 22 years. i know being a revachol cop would kill solace. i know alcoholism is hard to kick#and dora still haunts us. i know life is so hard and there is so much that kills hope and that the pale is going to swallow elysium. i know#but isn't disco elysium about how the world is awful and corrupt and futile but there is still beauty and worth to living in it?#the sky. the world. you're still alive. after death; life again. one day i will return to your side. sunrise parabellum.#the phasmid exists. the pale can be fought back with art. the city's alive and she told us she loves us. and solace believes there is hope.#augh idk man hjlkjg just don't want to lean into the ''young witch trying to find a cat in the alps'' bullshit lmao FUCK that </3#i just think harry deserves a hope skill.#volta transmissions#inland drabbles#task: when two skills love each other very much
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britneyshakespeare · 12 days ago
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you know something i don't like about modern culture (and i wonder to what extent the prevalence of dating apps has to do with it) is that you're, seemingly, not supposed to ask people you just meet in real life on a date anymore? you're supposed to ask them to see you individually to hang out, and you're not supposed to call it anything...? people act like declaring intent is impolite or something.
this absolutely sucks if you're a woman on the receiving end of this kind of thing all the time, from men you don't wanna see privately that way. i've felt so much guilt about it in my life. whether i say no or yes. i know i'm giving that man hope that it's a date, that i wanna go on a date with him if i agree to see him for coffee or whatever. but if i don't wanna go on this undeclared date, i have to reject the very concept of spending time with him at all, which feels SOOO much meaner and more personal, doesn't it? it feels like that to me. and if i do go, and i don't wanna go on another one (because i never enjoyed the it-pretty-much-being-a-date element of the time), it feels like i'm crushing his hopes after puffing them up just a little bit.
and it's like. "date" is not a dirty word. we have so many expectations nowadays around things. women used to sit around and wait for a man to propose to them, and it would be basically the only decision they could make in their life. not even really the choice to marry, but to whom they get married. and obviously marriage was very serious.
as courtship continued to develop into modern dating and boyfriend/girlfriend culture, it sort of decentralized the importance or marriage and valued getting to know someone you like romantically, with the implicit assumption that you're doing it with the attempt to better choose the 'right one' by spending quality time with them. decent enough. although even the words boyfriend and girlfriend are much more serious than they used to be. they did not always imply a serious commitment like they do today, especially if you're... basically, just not a kid anymore.
people have a certain amount of expectation of what anyone over 18 should do or want to do with a "partner"—like, if this were the 1940s, i would've had several "boyfriends" in my adult life, but i never called them that, and the modern sense of that word would not be accurate. if i went on a date or two and flirted with them, that'd be enough to say "yeah i went out with a boyfriend." i'm mostly indifferent to this change of vocabulary, but the point is i have no word to describe any of those guys that i just gave a chance, never felt much for, and didn't wanna keep seeing. not bad things; it's just experience.
and if we aren't bold enough to call things dates for the sake of the atmosphere not losing the low-stakes nature... it's like, no, it doesn't do that. it's just two people spending time with the elephant in the room. perhaps that makes it feel more relaxed if both people really are doing it with the same intent, let's-just-see-if-we-get-along, figuring out if you like someone you don't really know very well yet. testing it. but like. that can be a date. that's what a lot of dates are. when you meet the person on a dating app and just grab coffee without setting higher expectations, you wouldn't hesitate to call it a date. if it's that person from your college class, that's ruder or more presumptuous, somehow?
a date doesn't have to be a candlelit dinner with the violinist standing by. a date doesn't have to be high romance. a date doesn't have to end with a kiss or lead to a commitment, if things go decently. a date certainly doesn't have to result in two people having sex. a date can be nonchalant and friendly and just trying to discover if you have any chemistry with this person who piqued your interest. why is that NOT the initial expectation anymore? why is "date" a dirty word? why?
#tales from diana#rant#i keep thinking about this because i asked my friends' advice on how to talk to wc. just approaching him and how to establish rapport#and i asked for advice bc i genuinely don't like any of my own ideas. we really are just awkwardly unfamiliar w each other#we need to move past hellos-in-the-hallway already goddammit... but i have few opportunities to make natural conversation w him at work#our jobs don't overlap much. y'know#and i AM taking their advice for what it's worth. i intend to. you know#they're going to help me message him sometime this week. and they might have to tie me up and take my phone to do it but it'll happen#but anyway my initial idea. which i admit was a bit hasty. was just telling him i think he's cute. like. not shocking imo#and that sorta does come from my sense of urgency at this point. i want to know what he thinks of me already!!!!#like dude if you think i'm cute too. let's just go on a date!#and i'm despairing the possibility of not having at least said that much before the end of the school year. since i wanna switch jobs#but that's not the thing you do nowadays i suppose? i guess that is a little bit of pressure. they were like 'thatll get UR anxiety up too'#not untrue. i GUESS. there's really no low-anxiety way for me to approach the guy ive had a silly crush on for over six months though#so they were talking over a possibility of me asking him for like coffee or something and being like 'dont call it a date' and im like. no?#i dont like it when ppl ask me on a date and dont call it a date. im supposed to do that to someone else now?#if he has any interest in me then surely he'll go along w it. but i worry about him bc i know (i ONLY know) what it's like to be on that en#i haven't asked anyone out or made the first move (really other than just nonchalantly flirting) ONCE in my adult life. havent wanted to#now that im on the initiating side im like. this is soooo stupid i wanna go on a DATE with you!! stupid!!#if i get so far as to hang out w him off of work just once. im not gonna let it last long before i declare intent#unless it's super awkward and we have no chemistry. which could happen. but if it goes well#AAAHHHH do you get it??? i think youre CUTE!! OBVIOUSLY. why do i have to do this stupid dance#like if youre gonna reject me romantically just reject me romantically. if he doesnt wanna meet up with me#well (cries) thats ok... but it's not like i'll ever try again lol#i'm gonna take that as romantic rejection anyway. so why not just say it? i dont get it. but ill do what the romans do
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ahalliance · 30 days ago
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rewatching severance s2 and in e1 mark w. talks about how his branch got shut down which reminds me of how in the finale the MDR department that we know was set to be shut down once cold harbour was completed . which to me at least implies that mark w. and gwendolyn y.'s department had a similar cold harbour-esque situation that in their case was finished bc why else would their whole department have been shut down
#severance#all this Also implies that this has been a process that existed long before mark and gemma but perhaps reached its intended goal with them#bc ive seen people be like 'why are mark and gemma so special' and it's nothing inherent about them lumon is just exploiting them like they#do everyone else . like the whole refining process relies on the innies' emotions right to isolate the numbers and sort them . and the#numbers are the consciousnesses of the trapped people on the testing floor . and so to me at least it's strongly implied that the stronger#the emotional connection the innie has with those numbers the more aptly refined it is or whatever . which is why mark and gemma are so#important to lumon bc of their deep emotional connection ! like the chances of having a married couple in ur fucked up experiment? of COURS#they were willing to do anything to get mark to finish fuckass cold harbour!! and considering how quickly drummond got to killing him after#he Did complete it it truly shows how they only wanted him for the unique labour he could do for them and didn't gaf about him as a person#anw tldr; cold harbour was just the latest attempt in the long process of 'mdr worker refines the innie consciousnesses of trapped people o#the severed floor to test the efficacity of the severance barriers with the eventual end goal of selling severance to the layman uptop'#and they were salivating over mark and gemma so badly bc they represented lumon's best opportunity to test those severance barriers (due#to their emotional connection as husband and wife)#this also does imply that the whole refining process taps into the innies' subconscious bc ms casey and mark s. don't recognise each other#yet the whole time mark s. HAD been successfully refining gemma's many innies#it does leave the question of who the others were refining bc even though they clearly singled out mark as their Guy bc they were probs#getting the best results from him the others were still refining people . they were all feeling emotional connections to the files#so to me that means they All have people they're in some way emotionally connected on the testing floor ? my crack theory is that helly was#refining her mom
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