#baylan skoll headcanons

[snow-dragon-rider]

Baylan Skoll, shiny new Jedi Knight, full of boundless optimism and joy, takes a shiny new padawan, a tiny girl full of boundless optimism and joy to match, and the Council smiles at her endless questions and his endless patience.

Baylan Skoll, Jedi Knight, promises to teach and she promises to learn, and they adore each other and the Force dances around them in the hope of what could be.

Baylan Skoll, Jedi Knight, is sent off to war with his padawan like they all are, and already the Temple seems dimmer, like shadows creep in the corners without the two bright balls of light in the Force to keep them out.

Baylan Skoll, General in the Grand Army of the Republic, fights for what is right and teaches his padawan the same, as he keeps her as far from danger as he can in a galactic war.

Baylan Skoll, Jedi General, senses a change in the clones as the order comes down, and he pulls his padawan behind him, tells her to stay there and he will protect her, and she believes him, she always has, and he has never let her down before.

Baylan Skoll, traitor to the Republic, runs, shields his little padawan, sends her into the vents to hide while he cuts them a path out, and he kills dozens—hundreds?—he doesn’t know anymore—of clones, because he promised to protect her.

Baylan Skoll, Jedi Knight, fights no longer to get them out, but to get back to her, because the clones have found her and she is alone and she is terrified and the last thing he feels before he watches them execute her is her hope—her knowledge—that he will save her.

Baylan Skoll, broken man, kills every clone he can find because they took her and he couldn’t get her back, they betrayed the Jedi and he can’t get them back either, the Order has fallen and so has he.

Baylan Skoll, man on the run, takes his fight to whoever has the misfortune to catch his eye, and woe betide those he sets his sights on.

Baylan Skoll, mercenary, finds himself teaching a new apprentice to fight for a new Empire, not the old one the clones killed his padawan to create, but a new one, built by a new man, a man who sees the greater good and knows what must be done to bring it about (so he is told).

Baylan Skoll, fallen Jedi, finds this man, this Thrawn, and he has gone through trial and storm and tribulation and fire to get here, but so have Tano and her allies, and he will not give up without a fight, he never has.

Baylan Skoll, fallen Jedi, sees this boy, this child who would have been a padawan in the old days, who should be one now, who is in danger, who is terrified of the soldiers bearing down on him.

Baylan Skoll, fallen Jedi, fights for what is right, even though he hasn’t always, because he couldn’t save his padawan all those years ago, but damn it he will save Bridger’s.

Baylan Skoll, Jedi Knight, dies a hero, dies a death he could not all those years ago, dies to save a child, and the Force dances at the blaze of hope that burns so bright it shames the stars as it welcomes him home.

Baylan Skoll, worthy Jedi Knight, the Force says, be at peace.

[nothingfromnowherenooneatall]

Shin Hati is 100% an unhinged She/They that bleaches their own hair with boxdye at 3am while listening to Deftones and fantasizing about kissing killing Sabine. (she also completely ruined their hair the first time they tried bleaching it themselves, so Tired Dad To A Goth Child™ Baylan had to teach her how to do it properly)

[bri-the-nautilus]

Headcanon: Shin has selective mutism

As long as she can remember, Shin has had a hard time holding conversations with anyone besides her Master. Even dealing with clients or other people related to their jobs as mercenaries is uncomfortable for her, and she speaks little and with great effort. Which is why she's confused as all hell when she can't stop herself from exchanging taunts with Sabine Wren.

[cethlyarlo]

Shin's Belt

I really rather like that the symbol on Shin's belt is that of the alchemical symbol for chaos. Let me tell you why:

Chaos represents the concept of everything doing everything all at once; existing together, in tangent, or not at all. It represents all paths and what lies beyond what was made to believe is set in stone. The definition of chaos is not particularly the opposite of order in this circumstance, but it can be used that way.

More clearly, chaos provides an opening for new beginnings; to disrupt what is stagnant or what doesn't feel right to present alternative pathways. Chaos is needed to undo pressures, expectations, norms, etc. so that an individual can learn to be themselves; to grow and change as needed.

It's very much not the evil or negative symbol pop culture and Hollywood would have you believe. I've even seen it used to refer to Satanists, which is very much not true. Dark practitioners can and do use this symbol, but this symbol does not represent them. They don't own it nor can they control it/assume authority over it. It's not exclusive to one group either: anyone can utilize it however they see fit and like with most things, that could go in any direction. We will be focusing on the balance between the negative and positive aspects of chaos here in this write up.

That being said, on to why this symbol is important for Shin's character arc:

Firstly, Shin is devout and loyal to Baylan; her Master and depending on how you look at it, potential father figure. He's everything she's ever known and his own views, teachings, and opinions have been pressed on her since she was young. There's nothing particularly wrong with that, seeing as that's usually how parenting/teaching goes, but it isn't allowing her to see beyond that. The box is small and she finds herself unable to think outside of it due to her loyalty to him.

When Baylan begins to refuse to tell her crucial details about his plans and goals, she begins to question him and her idea of him. This is the beginning of chaos' disruption over her life and as the show progresses, this disruption continues to grow. It's a butterfly effect, if you will; the seeds of disarray have been planted and they have the potential to grow into something exponential.

She comes into contact with Sabine Wren, who has lived a very different form of life compared to her own and I believe the simple interactions between them helps to spur the questions she suddenly has about her life in general. There are things and people that can and do live outside of the box in her mind and while she's probably aware of this, she hadn't truly understood what that meant until this point. With her master's increased elusiveness and the lack of answers, plus the eye-opening revelations that witnessing bits and pieces of Sabine and Ahsoka's relationship (I.e Seatos), the seeds of distrust and further questions begin to take root and sprout. Her mind is opening to other things; the walls of the box are beginning to crumble.

By the time they're on Peridea, Baylan's motives are entirely unclear and somewhat unpredictable to her. She's confused by him and what he wants. Chaos is taking greater hold of her now; her life is changing so quickly and in directions she can't forsee like the arrows of the symbol that gesture to all directions simultaneously. The seeds begin to uncontrollably grow into trees regardless of her attempts to reconnect with him.

Then he abandons her.

Without a word on where he went, Shin's found herself alone. The walls of her box have been destroyed, the wound made worse by Ahsoka's offer to help. Chaos has upended her normalcy, her comforts, her mental and emotional stabilizers, her trust, her view of self; her life. What began as seeds have rapidly grown into a sprawling forest and now she has to deal with the wreckage.

The change is for good though. With Sabine and Ahsoka stranded with her, she has the opportunity to step into her own person. She now has the opportunity to find herself; to make her own decisions, to spend some time with other people like her. She has the ability to learn and grow free of her box and the restrictions that had been pressed on her since joining Baylan, however long ago that happened to be.

Shin gets to be her own person now, and she can do whatever she wants with that :)

Edit: I realized I forgot to mention the little dots within the wheel!

Symmetrical to the Norse story of Hati and Skoll [who were sons of Fenrir (and Fenrir is the son of trickster God Loki and Jötunn giantess Angrboða)], the wheel of chaos on Shin's belt sports two little dots which I believe represent the sun and moon [and thus the wolves that chase them; Skoll (the one who mocks) and Hati (the one who hates) respectively]. As it goes, the celestial bodies rise in the East (right quadrant on the belt) and set in the West (left quadrant on the belt). The little dots are doing just that. The dot on right I believe represents the moon, or Shin, and that the dot on the left represents Baylan. The moon is rising and the sun is setting, showing that Baylan's time in her life is ending and her own time is just beginning.

Either way, it's a very hopeful symbol in my opinion :)

[shinhatisgirlfriend]

If the Galactic Civil War didn’t happen, I’m convinced Baylan would’ve been a librarian like Master Nu. That man is a nerd and no one can tell me otherwise.

Padawans would be spreading rumors that they’d never seen him leave the library before, that they weren’t even sure that he ate, and that if you asked him to help you find something you’d emerge from the archives 10 years later, no longer remembering what you were looking for…

Anakin goes to ask Baylan about a Sith legend about Darth Plagueis and Obi-Wan finds him days later asleep in the stacks, Baylan’s cloak over him like a blanket.

[awsok]

there's so much we don't know about baylan and shin it fascinates me! like at all times i am thinking about:

what was baylan's relationship with his own master like (and how has that influenced his relationship with shin)?

what was baylan like as a jedi knight? (did he ever question the order before it fell? what was he like as a general during the clone wars?)

did he ever have a padawan when he was part of the order? if so, what was their relationship like (and how did it end)?

how did baylan survive order 66 and the jedi purge?

what caused baylan to see the jedi as "weak" with "no future"?

what was shin's life like before she met baylan? (did she know she was force-sensitive? did she ever have family or a community?)

how did shin and baylan meet? what drew him to her (or her to him)?

what made baylan decide to train shin? (was he looking for an apprentice? or did he just stumble across her, realise she was force-sensitive and — what? decide she could be useful? want to protect her from inquistors?) what made shin agree to be trained?

how old was shin when they met (and as a result, how long has baylan been training shin)?

how did their relationship develop? when we see them in ahsoka there was an unexpected warmth between them: mutual trust, a hint of playfulness. but there is also a significant distance: baylan gives the orders and shin follows, shin asks questions but rarely receives answers. baylan is visibly furious and protective when ahsoka throws shin into that rock in 1x04, yet a few short episodes later he sends shin away and leaves her to fend for herself. did they use to be closer? or is this as close as they've ever been?

how does baylan see shin (both what he consciously tells himself and what does he really feel)?

how does shin see baylan (both what she consciously tells herself and what she really feels)?

baylan said he was training shin to be "more than a jedi": what does that mean exactly? shin clearly draws on her anger for power and both wield sith-esque orange-red lightsabers. yet baylan also criticises anakin and ahsoka's legacy of "death and destruction" and claims to "serve a greater good".

and of course. what the fuck is baylan's mission?

this is absolutely an invitation to put your headcanons and theories in a reblog/the tags/the replies/my askbox/your own post/literally anywhere as long as i can read it. they make me soo crazy and i need to know everyone's headcanons right now immediately. pleak

[sixtysixproblems]

so i saw some sort of clickbaity article when the ahsoka show was still coming out about how baylan was going to be revealed to be plo koon's former padawan, and this has been canon to me ever since. like it just works so well. also, the wolf motif.......my dudes I came up with the most cursed friendship (crackship) as a result of this, send help

Wolffe hates him instantly because of some miscomunication I haven't decided, meanwhile Baylan can sense it and is like "this guy's fascinating...anyways--" (proceeds not to think about him at all or resolve the situation in the slightest)

Baylan, internally: oh it's that strange commander again. alright (starts zoning off about the Mortis gods)

Wolffe, internally: I can't kill him, Plo would be sad. I can't kill him, Plo would be sad. I can't kill him, Plo would be sad, I can't fucking kill him-

Plo, who can sense both of these:

they do become friends though (eventually) and tease Plo about Ahsoka. Plo's glad his son-figures close friends are finally getting along, but at what cost?

Baylan: We have both been replaced. Forsaken

Wolffe: *nods morosely*

Baylan: You as his favorite Commander, and me as his favorite Padawan.

Wolffe: Betrayal.

Plo: I'm not even training Soka...

ALTERNATELY, if they met in some post-order-66 AU

Baylan: ...You're Commander Wolffe, correct?

Wolffe: *only vaguely recognizes his face, has no idea who he actually is* and what about me

Baylan: *ignites lightsaber* and you were General Koon's commander who carried out order 66, also correct?

Wolffe: *finally connecting the dots on who this guy is* oh fuck me

Plo, entering after the fight started: NO, BAYLAN, PUT HIM DOWN (pulls out spraybottle)

Bonus:

Wolffe: (stares at toddler Shin) what is that. is it possessed

Baylan: * head tilt * I believe I'm going to try and kill you again

Plo: *distracted* I HAVE A ✨GRANDCHILD✨???

[pawsimses]

Brainrot Trash Idea about Shin and Baylan

So I've been seeing a fair amount of stuff about Baylan and Shin, and bc I'm a Sucker for Father-Daughter characters, decided to play with a few headcanons. None of which are remotely close to Canon and a few AUs bc I can.

General HC Rambling

* Shin is Baylan's actual daughter. Yeah, I know she's (99%) not in canon but look. The idea of Baylan having and then training his own daughter to be something greater than the Jedi lives rent-free in my head.

* He got Shin from a young age to refer to him as "Master" instead of "Father" for both their sakes. Smother the risk of attachment and keep them both safer should the Empire catch on. (Jokes on him, because both of them are very attached to each other).

(For Shin, there actually isn't a real difference between terms; for her, calling him "Master" is her just saying "Father". He is her father, not her mentor, in her POV. She just uses a different word is all. (Help them, plz)).

* On that not of terminology, been thinking and I know it's probably just a harmless/unimportant honorific, but the fact Baylan has the title of Lord makes my brain go "what if Baylan was actually of noble origins?". Which then shifts into "Shin having a separate last name from her father is due to Baylan gifting her his mother's maiden name, for the same reasons he has her refer to him as her mentor instead of parent". It's also a way, in his twisted mind, to honor his family nobility when he himself failed it (by being a Jedi).

(Also imagine the Skoll/Hati family coat of arms being *wolves*)

* I even got genealogy HC worked out cause- "well Shin doesn't look like Baylan". And yes but hear me out: she takes after another relative of his (sister, mom, aunt, grandmother, etc.). Maybe she reminds him of his mom, idk. But if so, maybe that's why he gives her the surname Hati? As a quiet honoring? Either way, she takes after his family members, just not him strictly lol.

* (I'll be honest, her hair looked dyed and frankly speaking, I do HC Baylan as being a dark brunette before he went full Grey, so not a far stretch to also consider her inheriting his hair at least.)

* Back on the Hati surname, thinking more also led to "its a family name but farther back in lineage before it got changed to Skoll somewhere down the line". Kinda like how the Bakarn family in SWTOR used to be the Bakvalens before it got changed to a more common surname. Either way, the name Skoll puts a target on Shin's back and Baylan isn't taking that risk.

* (Ngl, part of me now wants to play w the idea of Baylan actually being a descendant of the Bakarn family. Idk if he'd be related to Syo tho, for obvious reasons.)

*Regarding upbringing, Baylan was a single dad front day 1, raising Shin on the run. Who the other parent is or if she even has one, no one knows. (Mostly bc I'm lazy and single dad Baylan lives rent free in my head). They mostly drifted from place to place, never really calling somewhere home. Hence another reason why Shin is very attached to Baylan; he's her only source of stability. He is "home".

*Leaving Shin was hard for her, but it was also hard for Baylan. It's not that he doesn't love his daughter. He absolutely does. But he's driven by personal ambition to seek this unknown power on this strange world and that takes priority. And truthfully, it's dangerous. He knows it's dangerous. But it calls to him in a way he can't ignore. In a way Shin can't hear. And if For her sake. Even if tearing away from her rips him in pieces; it's dangerous what he's doing and he won't drag her into it.

(Mentally he tells himself he's doing this all for her. For a better future, for her.)

(Shin, of course, is too attached to her father to actually leave the planet.)

AU VERSE HC

On another hand, been seeing a fair amount of Baylan/Morgan content lately and THAT got me thinking of "Shin is a Baylan/Morgan child". Which...

-Half-Dathomiran Shin. Half-Dathomiran Shin with Morgan's markings.

-Shin whose been raised by a human most of her life, who isn't at all attuned to her Nightsister half. Who doesn't really know Morgan and probably is unaware she's her parent.

-Shin who isn't attuned to her Nightsister heritage, suddenly experiencing summons of green fire and magic when her parents leave her behind for their own paths.

Nightsister-Dark Jedi hybrid class Shin Hati.

[yardikins]

My brain isn’t functioning properly rn so this probably makes *zero* sense but I just need to type this out I feel like im going insane

I’m aware this post is just me incoherently rambling about Baylan, Shin and Ragnar but it’s in my head and I need it out of there so that I can sleep, it is currently 1am

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Okay we all know Baylan and Shin are named after the wolves in Norse mythology that chase the sun and moon, Sköll and Hati, thats an established fact in the fandom. But let’s dive a little deeper into the legend

According to everything that I’ve read, Sköll and Hati chase the chariots of the sun and moon across the sky, and when they eventually catch the celestial bodies, that will trigger the Ragnarök, the end of times.

What’s getting me here is the name of the apocalypse that the wolves will start when they catch the sun and moon. The Ragnarök.

…Ragnar.

There’s a character named Ragnar in The Mandalorian. Ragnar Vizsla, Paz Vizsla’s adopted son, introduced in season three

I- as far as I can tell, everything Filoni does with characters means something. Every naming choice, line of dialogue, means something. But what does this mean- if anything

If I remember correctly too, Ahsoka takes place at the same time Mandalorian S3 is happening, so im sitting here thinking about the two characters named after the wolves that start the Ragnarök and the child with a name two letters away from being Ragnarök, all being introduced within the exact same time period

All three characters clearly have bigger roles to play in future seasons of their respective shows and the upcoming Mandoverse movie, but are those roles gonna be. Connected??

This is sending me down a spiral of incoherent Star Wars thoughts and I’m subjecting everyone else to it cause like- has anyone else thought of this, does this even make sense

I have so many more thoughts about this but I’m gonna shush and not say any more of them, not rn at least. Future post.

[tacticalvalor]

«────── « HEADCANON » ──────»

Shin Hati shares her name with Hati, the wolf that chases the Moon in Norse mythology, while her master (Baylan Skoll) shares his name with Sköll, the wolf that chases the Sun.

Sköll is a wolf that, according to Snorri Sturluson's Prose Edda, chases the Sun (Sól) riding her chariot across the sky. Hati Hróðvitnisson chases the Moon (Máni) during the night.

In Old Norse religion, it is foretold the two wolves will chase the sun and moon across the skies until Ragnarök, at which point the wolves catch up and devour the celestial beings.

Baylan really meant it when he said, "Your ambition drives you in one direction; my path lies in another."

And I am terrified that he knows their deaths are inevitable, and is creating distance so that there may be a chance she survives beyond him.

[whatyousyeiswhatyouget]

Ahsoka Spoilers (somewhat)

After Baylan's line that "everyone knew Anakin" and "what he became" (obviously not direct quotes), I decided that he and Anakin must have been friends, just because I wanted them to be, but the more I think about it, the more I think I have some (albeit flimsy) evidence.

Anakin spoke highly of Ahsoka. Obviously Anakin might have just gone around the temple telling everyone that would listen about his padawan (I fully believe that that is possible) but maybe he also told Baylan specifically.

Who Anakin would become. The identity of Vader was the Emperor's best kept secret, so unless you were close to him (Obi Wan and Ahsoka) or you were at the temple, then you wouldn't know. (Admittedly, I haven't kept up enough with post Return of the Jedi material to know if the New Republic revealed who Vader was, but Baylan seems to be talking from personal experience).

Baylan fought in the war as a general, so it's not impossible nor unlikely that their paths didn't cross.

The wisdom that Baylan has (mostly with what he says to Shin) makes it likely that he was an attentive padawan, but his divergence to grey after the empire's rise could be like that darkness in Anakin.

Baylan sends Shin on her own in episode 7 and the way Anakin lets Ahsoka go (only when he knows it's better for her) just strikes me as similar. It's not even evidence, it just feels similar.

So obviously most of this is not evidence, but I want to believe that they were friends, so that's what I'm doing.

[riodibuja]

I think Ezrashin fits in the black cat x dog, golden retriever ship dynamic. :3

That's the same thing I thought!

A little hc:

Baylan and Shin have been in some pretty horrible situations and know better than anyone how cruel life can be, which is why they adopted a raw and bitter view of life; the death of hope that, deep down, lies moribund in their hearts. While Ezra and the other rebels took that cruelty and made the best of it; Find a motivation in all the tragedy

Realism and Optimism, black cats and golden retrievers, both complement each other in a beautiful way!

[jedim3rc]

#JEDIM3RC

Independent. Private. Semi-Sel.    Rp blog for    " Baylan Skoll "     from the Ahsoka tv show. Canon and Headcanon based. Knighted by Ang.  21+. Personals and minors dni.

[itallstartedwithharry]

Post-episode 3

So I'm leaning more into the Ahsoka show as it goes along, I'm okay with a slow burn. I still do have some Big Things that I'm hoping get addressed/revealed over the course of the show. (If not, of course, I'll do what I always do and bend headcanon to make it make sense)

I NEED KANAN'S NAME SPOKEN. At least once for my own pain.

*Why* does Sabine want to be a Jedi? I'm pleased at least they're not claiming she has an innate force sensitivity, but still baffled by some clear character shift that we don't have an explanation for yet

We're not going to get this one but how did Sabine survive a lightsaber through the chest??? Unless I missed something lightsaber through chest/abdomen is pretty much always shown to be fatal

More of a question for other fans, were we supposed to recognize/know anything about Baylan Skoll? I literally have no recollection.

[cethlyarlo]

Imagine this with me for a sec, I'm here to break your heart with this silly little headcanon:

Baylan and Shin made their outfits.

When Shin was young and living with her family, she learned to sew because it was something commonly taught to all people within her community (like driving or riding a bike in ours). This means she grew up with the craft and is familiar with how to both sew by hand and with a machine. She knows how to darn, mend, and honestly I wouldn't be surprised if she knew a thing or two about embroidery, crochet, or knitting.

(oh my golly, imagine Sabine finding out Shin can crochet)

Anyways, fast forward to the first few years she and Baylan spent together on the run. Shin is officially an apprentice and they work together to survive, take contracts, teach, and learn. They do everything together, and because of their profession, they feel like they need ✨outfits✨ to appear more reputable to potential clients.

Now, if you look at the stitching on Shin's tunic compared to Baylan's, it's a lot neater. The color of fabric is uniform and overall, it's looks like it's held up fairly well to the abuse it's been through. Baylan's is... a little less neat, but still durable and it serves it's function.

Here's where I'm going with this:

Shin, in this scenario, is a relatively experienced seamster, or at least more experienced than most. This means that she probably had to teach Baylan a thing or two when it came to creating their outfits respectively, hence why the craftsmanship in Shin's appears a tad better than in Baylan's.

Now just imagine Baylan's pride towards trying to learn this new skill from his apprentice and inevitably succeeding after many failed attempts. He knows his handiworks isn't the best in the world, but he did it and it was his own apprentice that taught him how. It made his apprentice smile and that's really all that mattered in the end. It was probably a defining series of moments/activity in their relationship and it probably brought them closer as a Master and his Apprentice, or more like, a Father and his Daughter.

That's all 🙃

[shinhatisgirlfriend]

I’ve been thinking about Baylan Skoll a lot lately (we stan a he/him lesbian) and I’ve decided it would be fucking rad if his lineage traced back to Kreia from KOTOR II. He wants to break the wheel, to stop the Force from putting the Galaxy through the same repetition, the same conflicts. Similarly, Kreia wanted to destroy the Force to liberate people from it & its influence.

Like I know it’s unlikely that Baylan would have traced his lineage that far back, but if by trying to break a cycle he ends up unknowingly repeating one… that’d give me chills