#batwoman the drowned

[reverseflashes]

"This place, this light, this amnesty bay, this world... It's what I'm owed. My name is Bryce Wayne, and I'm here to take it."

[super-hero-confessions]

[catluniscia]

The Drowned

The Drowned who is uh Bryce Wayne, who is part of Earth -11 which is part of the Dark Multiverse. Who due to her death of Sylvester Kyle (if you haven't figured it out this is a gender swapped universe as well) by some rouge meta humans, Bryce decided to go against the metahumans...and then Aquawoman came along drowned like half of Gotham and Bryce decided to modify her body to be able to go into the ocean and defeat Aquawoman, which included using the dna of mutated sea life, which gave her similar abilities to Atlantians and just, yea its gets kinda messed up. Also yes defeats Aquawoman and just...listen its part of the dark multiverse and becomes part of the Batman Who Laughs crew the dark knights and called herself The Drowned...yea. Listen I just really liked the cool pirate look and wanted to draw it. ^^;

[clawsextended]

i would like to formally thank you all for allowing me lately to write ‘selina is fucking unhinged’ threads they’re my lifeblood.

[batwomanandmotherpanic]

[avayarising]

Deaths of Tim Drake

Unfortunately, Tim is wrong. At the time of the above panel (Robin War 1, 2015), Tim had died twice. To be fair, though, this being New 52 where Tim was never even actually Robin, they have presumably unhappened or, at least, been forgotten. (However, current canon is that all timelines have happened, so they still count.)

Tim has died three times and visited an afterlife once, if only barely. There are also a further three occasions when he might have arguably died, though it is not shown on panel.

Total time dead: a few days.

Verifiable deaths

1. Killed by the Joker (Emperor Joker, 2000)

Tim was killed by the Joker after Joker stole reality-altering powers from Mxyzptlk and remade the universe to his liking.

By the look of his corpse he was shot several times in the chest, possibly with a machine-gun.

Time dead: At least a few days. By the look of the corpses, Dick died before Tim – his body is noticeably more bloated – but neither has been dead more than about a week or two. On the other hand, Joker has powers over reality here, so he could have them appear at whatever stage of decomposition he wants.

2. Drowned in Blüdhaven (Robin 2:145, 2006)

Tim drowned in a water attack by a villain called Monsoon during an attack on Blüdhaven by a large number of meta villains, just hours before Blüdhaven was bombed by Chemo.

He was resuscitated by Laura Fell, the Warlock’s Daughter (his school friend Darla returned from the dead), who says she used CPR (the resuscitation is not shown on-page).

Of course, the person who gave her the CPR that didn’t help when she died was Tim, so that’s a hell of a thing to bring up just now.

Time dead: unclear, but probably in the order of minutes – Laura is grabbing him and pulling him out as he’s losing consciousness, so it can’t be long.

3. Electrocuted by Evil Future Tim (Detective Comics 1:966–967, 2017)

Tim’s Evil Future Batman Self (pulled from the future by Dr Oz) helped Tim escape Dr Oz’s extradimensional prison, where they were both imprisoned. When they got back to Gotham, Evil Future Batman Tim incapacitated Red Robin Tim with a powerful electric shock so he could go and kill Batwoman without interference.

Tim staggered to a nearby hospital, removing the more recognisable parts of his Red Robin outfit (which at this point in time actually looks just like his Robin outfit) on the way, and collapsed in the doorway. His heart stopped and he had to be revived by defibrillation.

Time dead: a minute or two at most.

Bonus extra deaths

(Implied, inferrable, ambiguous and arguable deaths)

1. Possibly died briefly during his splenectomy (Red Robin 5, 2009)

As Red Robin, Tim got stabbed in the spleen, and almost died from blood loss. He was picked up and treated by the League of Assassins, and woke up next to a Lazarus Pit. He was told, however, that he had not been resurrected, nor been submerged in the Pit for healing, but had only undergone surgery.

That may be so. It still leaves open the possibility that Tim did briefly die on the operating table and was resuscitated by more normal medical processes. It’s also possible that the White Ghost was lying by omission and, even if Tim wasn’t submerged in the Pit, some Lazarus Water was involved in the operation.

Time dead: Maybe a minute or two, if anything.

2. Arguably died when he was shot by a hundred drones at once (Detective Comics 1:940 (2016)

Jacob Kane (Batwoman’s dad and Bruce’s maternal uncle) had a plan to take out members of the League of Shadows (an offshoot of the League of Assassins) with targeted drone strikes. But the drones would have potentially killed a lot of other people too. Unable to actually disable the drones, Tim managed to hack them and reprogram them to all fire on him instead.

This was absolutely suicide, and it absolutely would have killed him had Dr Oz not spirited him away to his extradimensional prison. But you could argue that Tim did actually die at this point. Did he get transported just before the drones hit, or did his body get disintegrated and then reconstituted from his soul (which would count as death) in the prison?

Against the former, surely it wouldn’t have been hard for the other Bats to spot if his body had disappeared a millisecond before the lasers hit, and the panel appears to show his body beginning to disintegrate. Tim remembers the missiles hitting him.

On the other hand, when Tim manifests in the prison he is still as injured as he was before, with a swollen cheek and a bloody nose, and you’d think if his body was reformed it would come back fully healed.

Dr Oz’s answer is ambiguous.

Time dead: unclear. If he died at all, it was probably for moments.

3. Probably died in Death Metal along with everyone else (Death Metal 7, 2021)

Tim probably died in battle when the Dark Multiverse invaded and destroyed all the worlds of the multiverse. All the remaining heroes came together in a hopeless fight against an army of their worst nightmares, including an apparently never-ending swarm of groblins (mindless evil Jokerised Robins led by the Robin King, an evil child Bruce Robin).

Tim’s death isn’t shown on panel and neither is his dead body, but he is definitely in the group of Bats standing ready to fight (left, next to Spoiler):

As with Cass, Tim is likely to have died here, but he could have just been fighting elsewhere when we see Evil Child Bruce Robin taunt Batman over the fact that everyone is dead. In any case, everyone is fine again when Wonder Woman persuades the Creators to remake the multiverse.

Time dead: unclear; might be up to an hour, or longer if it takes longer to remake the world.

Afterlife visits

1. Pulled to the edge of the Abyss (Young Justice 1:19, 1999)

So apparently one of Greta’s (Secret’s) powers is the ability to create a portal to the Abyss – a rather horrific realm of the dead – within herself. She basically gathers people into herself to pull them in to the afterlife. She can also use this power to teleport/transport people by taking them through the Abyss – though it is not pleasant. She does this for Young Justice when Mount Justice blows up with them all inside it. In Greta’s internal portal, they experience falling into darkness, being burnt up, and being frozen and shattered. All the time, Greta is laughing cruelly.

And then they get spat out into a forest in the rain.

Greta is at pains to insist that she didn’t actually take them in to the Abyss itself, just the edge of it within herself. But it was still obviously absolutely nightmarish for all of them.

Time in in Greta’s internal afterlife portal: moments, or an eternity.

Batfam Death Project Masterpost

[raphael-angele]

Teen Justice Headcanon of the Week

I'm currently on my way back home from the city for the holidays and I wanted to share something I've been headcanoning about Troy for a very long time

I have this ability to give a character with the angstiest and most tragic backstories. That is, if they weren't given a backstory already.

And we all know how Troy has a mysterious past that even THE Batwoman wasn't able to comprehend.

So, here's the tragic past of Donald Troy in my perspective (Please take note that this isn't canon and may make no sense)

For me, there's a reason why Troy is oblivious to certain things. I think there is a reason why he keeps his hair long, and I personally headcanon that he is afraid of needles, lightning, and the dark. I also headcanon that he used to be afraid of the water. And last but not least, I headcanon that he doesn't remember much about his past

Troy basically had an Eri backstory. Eri from My Hero Academia was a child who was used for her powers to take down the heroes or something like that.

Here's my take.

Troy is the child of a mad scientist who was obsessed with taking down Wonderous Man

WM found the lab and stopped the operation before it could get any worse when Troy was around 5 or 6, or at least that's what WDM had estimated his age would be. (I'm getting tired of writing WM so Imma just write Dane). When they first saw each other, Troy's first instinct was to attack since that's what he's been trained/modified to do. Of course, Dane easily restrained him which only scared Troy. Dane had comforted him and this is where he sees the serial number/code tattooed on his nape.

As it turns out, Troy doesn't have any birth records or any records at all. So, secretly, Dane took him back to Themyscira.

Now, onto the fears...

From an early age, he was genetically modified so that he'd be stronger than Dane. This is where his fear of needles comes from; he doesn't like the feeling, nor the sight of them since they remind him of what the scientists did. So taking him to the hospital has been very difficult because of this.

His fear of the dark comes from always being in a locked room with no one to accompany him and the only time they'd come get him is when it's time for another unethical experiment. He hates night time or at least used to. The only reason he's not entirely scared at night is because he can see the stars and the moon. But if you were to put him in a dark room with no way for light to get in, he'll feel like he can't breathe and he'll go into a panic attack. It only makes it worse that there's limited space.

His fear of lightning comes from the electric sparks of machines that were used on him. It died down as time passed but it still kinda scares him.

He actually got over his fear of water. His fear came from being drowned in a tub to make him stay awake during the experiments and from being drowned simply for torture or punishment. He only got over it after being taken in and Dane slowly showed him that the water isn't so scary (Which also gave him the love for sea turtles).

Growing up, Troy never really liked having short hair. For one, he really looked up to Dane and wanted to look like him. Secondly, he didn't like the serial number on his nape showing. It was no doubt he got insecure everytime people saw it and he would always cover it like his life depended on it.

The one thing I don't know if it's a good thing or not is that he doesn't remember much about his past. Dane doesn't know if his mind chooses not to remember or simply because he was too young to remember any of it at all. But the thing is, Troy doesn't even remember being adopted.

I actually have an entire plot dedicated to this so I might make a part 2 of this.

[dyslexicandakeyboard]

Hi. I already asked someone this question, but I really want to know what you think about it:

What do you think about Batwoman the drowned, as Gotham city sirens antagonist? I mean if you look closely, she’s has potential for interesting conflict with each of the girls. Her dead lover -Sylvester is Selina’s multiversal version, and yet she becomes the opposite of everything the cat represents: survival, love for life, freedom…

Both Harley and Bryce fell in love with male criminal, and it lead them to betray their morals and eventually lose themselves. But while in Harley’s case it happened because the Joker was a manipulative psychopath, Bryce Brakes after Sylvester Dies. I don’t think that Sylvester was anything like the Joker. I headcanon that he was a descent person and a descent boyfriend, despite being a thief like Selina.

And she’s interesting parallel to Poison Ivy, because both of them connected to forses of nature trough scientific experiments. But while Pamela loves plants, and wants to protect them, The drowned hates and exploits her element.

I feel that this Batwoman would actually be great antagonist for the Gotham City Sirens, especially for the reasons you pointed out. Each member is complimented and contrasted by Bryce's character.

Selina's core qualities, which were cultivated by her traumatic background, is mirror by Bryce's characteristics which also resulted from trauma. It would also be an experience for Bryce to see her dead lover basically alive and well. I wonder would that further hurt her or would it cause a change for the better? Would Selina have any thoughts on it, knowing that in a different universe Bruce completely lost it because she basically died? Would that taint their relationship? Bryce would also fully contrast to Selina, as you said. They are opposites in all ways, making to an interesting conflict, Selina's want of absolute freedom verses Bryce's need to subjugate people for the "better".

Would Harley see herself in Bryce, like she saw herself in Selina during Gotham City Sirens issue 19, and take pity on her? Harley must understand how it feels molding your life around a person, even if it hurts you, having your personality and sanity built around this guy. While the situation with Bryce and Sylvester is completely different from Harley and the Joker, it does serve as a cautionary tale on the dangers of loving too hard, though in Harley's case it was because Joker was a abusive shitbag.

And not only are both Bryce and Pamela connected to nature due to experiments, I feel a huge distinction to make is that Pamela is usually a victim of someone else's machinations and reclaims power with her new found gift while Bryce purposely experimented on herself to take a power. Bryce doesn't respect the power she has while Pamela does. However, they both use it in the same way, to mind control people for their own purposes. This is such an interesting connection between how different they but similar they are.

Honestly, thanks for telling me about this, a very interesting character.

[shyjusticewarrior]

Hi. What do you think about Batwoman the drowned, as Gotham city sirens antagonist? I mean if you look closely, she’s has potential for interesting conflict with each of the girls. Her dead lover -Sylvester is Selina’s multiversal version, and yet she becomes the opposite of everything the cat represents: survival, love for life, freedom…

Both Harley and Bryce fell in love with male criminal, and it lead them to betray their morals and eventually lose themselves. But while in Harley’s case it happened because the Joker was a manipulative psychopath, Bryce Brakes after Sylvester Dies. I don’t think that Sylvester was anything like the Joker. I headcanon that he was a descent person and a descent boyfriend, despite being a thief like Selina.

And she’s interesting parallel to Poison Ivy, because both of them connected to forests of nature trough scientific experiments. But while Pamela loves plants, and wants to protect them, The drowned hates and exploits her element.

I've actually never heard of the Drowned til your message, but that sounds really interesting.

[gothamvengeance]

'I've got to. It's the only way to protect them.' ── 「 Selective blog, headcanon heavy, extremely canon-divergent character study for Bryce Wayne AKA Batwoman from DC Comics. Inspired by: Arkham Verse, injustice, Batman INC, Earth 2, Dark Knights of Steel, Batman: The Drowned, The Batman who laughs: The Grim Knight, Last Knight on Earth and many more!

Potentially triggering content such as [Violence, Torture, Abuse, Murder, Clowns, Mental health, PTSD, Trauma, Transphobia, Misogyny, Child abuse, Child murder, and more.] All will be tagged.

Exploring themes of [What goes bump in the night, My Greatest Failure, Death through inaction, Haunted by the past, Trans identity, Humans are the true monsters, Two faced performer, Unresolved Trauma, Adaptational badass, A fist full of reality, and so much more.] Ableism/transphobia is not tolerated.

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[zahri-melitor]

Ok summary of recent reading as I’ve been hopping around and trying to get to various things I own while also crossing some stuff off my long list:-

Anarky 1999

Underworld Unleashed (main story and 4 one-shots)

DC One Million (practically everything)

Started Huntress 1989

Billy Batson & the Magic of Shazam #1-6

Saga volumes 3 & 4

Wonder Woman Historia

Current plan of attack (until I get derailed again):

More Huntress 1989

JLA Tower of Babel

So JLA/Titans comes immediately before Titans, yes? I’m sort of interested now after seeing Roy trying to pick a team back up in DC One Million to read this in the “coalescing attempts before the title starts” way

More Billy Batson & the Magic of Shazam

Batwoman: To Drown the World (#6-11)

[gamesception]

Sception reads Cassandra Cain #5

The Batman Chronicles #18 written by Devin Grayson, pencils by Dale Eaglesham

I've kind of gone over this in the past, but whatever, it's been a while. So Huntress / Helena Burtinelli was very briefly Batgirl/Batwoman during No Man's Land, while Batman was outside of Gotham trying to use his money and influence as Bruce Wayne to get the government to rebuild the city instead of walling it off, and for a while continued under that identity with Batman's approval after he returned. She was always meant to be a decoy/red herring by the editorial staff - as they had to announce the upcoming Batgirl title long before introducing the brand new character who would be headlining the book, but I honestly think this was a mistake - and more importantly just kind of mean to her fans.

Because Helena honestly made too much sense as Batgirl. Her character had originally been conceived as an alternate universe Batgirl who was the daughter of Bruce and Catwoman/Selina Kyle, a version of the character that was unceremoniously killed off and then erased from existence during the Crisis on Infinite Earths mega crossover / continuity reboot. So this is already a character and fan base who were hard done by before she was re-imagined as Helena Burtinelli, a version of the character who has at times been poorly treated in her own right. Elevating her to the mantle of Main Continuity Batgirl would have been long overdue justice to her fans, and a promise that the character would be treated better going forward.

And it was all just a red herring so the new character reveal could be a surprise. Not only had editorial not suddenly found their long missing respect for the character, they thought so little of her that her entire character could be jerked around for a cheap stunt.

Worse, as Red Herring Batgirl she was now in the way and had to be removed for the new Batgirl to take her place, and the way that went down was also pretty much bullshit, making Helena look like a coward for not even trying to save people under Batman's protection from Two Face's gang and making Bruce look like a monstrous asshole even by the Batman standards of the time. I really should have talked more about in the write up for Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight #120. Oh, well.

I wasn't a big Huntress fan, but if I had been it absolutely would have soured me on this new, unproven Batgirl character. In universe Helena would be more than justified in giving Cass a chilly reception. As far as I know, this issue is their first interaction, and I don't think I've read it before, so lets see how that goes.

despite the cover, and my long tangent above, neither Helena nor Cass is the actual focus of this issue. Rather, this is a Dr. Leslie Thompkins issue. Iirc she was a DCAU original, a doctor and surgeon in Gotham who did a lot of charity work, who knew Bruce since he was a boy. She knew Bruce was Batman, and basically served as the emergency doctor for the bat family in general. She appeared fairly sparingly in the animated show, but became a regular part of the comics, where she served as sort of a moral conscience for the bat family, constantly questioning their methods and use of violence. TV Leslie was a pacifist too, but that wasn't the primary focus of her character, and the change in focus and overuse in the comics did her absolutely no favors.

Because, of course, the Batman comics can't endorse the idea that the Batman is fundamentally a bad idea, so Leslie is inevitably put in situations contrived to make her wrong. Over and over again. And yet she keeps harping on about how violence is bad and the bat folks should stop hitting people who are threatening to blow up city hall or that punching a supervillain who is shooting up a crowd of civilians makes you just as bad as them or how the morally correct thing is to politely ask the Condiment King not to drown celebrity guest Gordon Ramsay in ranch dressing, and if he chooses to do so anyway well that's on him but at least your conscience doesn't have to be burdened by the indelible sin of hitting, because hitting is bad, and if you don't feel bad about hitting then she'll be sure to feel twice as bad for you, and she'll rub your face in her own misplaced guilt until you feel some by proxy god damnit.

Overall it was very insincere and turned Dr. Thompkins from the beloved character of the animated series, an all-to-rare rare surrogate mother figure for Bruce, into a smug self righteous downer and a nag.

This poor treatment of Dr. Thompkins in the bat books would eventually escalate into one of the most egregious and disgusting and frankly uncalled for character assassinations in the history of the medium, as bad if not worse than what Cass suffered. Eventually retconned, badly of course. Even so, I hope I get bored of this project and drop it again long before we get to the point where I have to talk about War Games / War Crimes in detail, because that was some of the most disgusting, reprehensible, and just plain mean spirited comic book writing in DC history - already a shamefully low bar - and the entire editorial staff responsible for it should have been banned from ever putting ink to page again.

But hey, here I am going off on ~another~ tangent, instead of looking at the actual issue in front of me.

So anyway, this issue opens on Dr. Thompkins having a nightmare where she pushes through a refugee camp, unable to help any of the people due to a lack of supplies, while stalked by a monster man - obviously Bruce - trying to take her away from the work that needs doing but that she can't do anyway, and maybe secretly doesn't even really want to.

Leslie's nightmare isn't far removed from her waking reality, as her little medical camp is under-staffed, under-supplied, and overwhelmed by sick and injured people from across Gotham with literally no where else to go for treatment.

Adding to her troubles, Zsasz was brought in to her clinic beaten to hell and with a conspicuous bite taken out of his side, and while he's unconscious for now he'll doubtless start killin' again as soon as he wakes up.

As dangerous as Zsasz is supposed to be, though, mostly down to sheer relentlessness, he's still just a guy? He's not super powered or anything? If Cass is in this book she should just beat him outright in any sort of physical fight in a rock-beats-scissors sort of way? Hrm.

Zsasz's injuries come courtesy of Killer Croc, who attacked Zsasz after he attacked a homeless man who happened to be Croc's friend. Now both 'Stumpy' and Zsasz are being treated by Leslie, and Croc's stalking the outskirts of the medical camp, torn between tearing through the place to finish of Zsasz and holding back so that Thompkins can treat his friend. He wants Leslie to just hand Zsasz over to him, but of course she can't do that.

Above I criticized the sort of moral dilemmas the writers often subjected Leslie to, but so far at least this feels more fair and Leslie's position doesn't seem as unreasonable. But despite his current injuries Zsasz /does/ present a threat to everyone at the camp, arguably even more so than Croc does. The GCPD group in No Man's Land is run by Gordon, at least in theory, but most of the cops are more loyal to this other guy who would immediately kill both Zsasz and Croc if he got his hands on either of them, probably 'Stumpy' too if he heard the guy was Croc's friend, so she can't turn to them. Honestly, she knows Bruce doesn't kill people, so the ideal solution would be to hand Zsasz off to Batman.

Speak of the devil, it's Officer Pettit. His deal is that since there's no legal system in No Man's Land, no way to put criminals/supervillains on trial, no intact and manned prisons to hold them in (that he knows about anyway), that anybody he deems a criminal should just be killed.

The classic conflict between at least this version of Helena and Bruce is that she's willing to kill people sometimes, whether for personal revenge reasons or if she just can't work out some other way to stop them from killing other people in the moment. And killing is something that Batman generally, and especially at the time, took a particularly uncompromising view of. In Batman's mind, if you kill you're a killer, and no better than anyone else who kills people. Never-you-mind that he's pals with the justice league and most of them, even Superman, have killed at this point in continuity. Within the pages of the bat books at least, Bruce's feelings on killing are as uncompromising and iron-clad as Leslie's feelings about violence in general.

Come to think of it, why wasn't that the reason Helena stopped being Batgirl? Like if she had fought Two Face's gang to try to protect the people in Batman's territory despite their overwhelming numbers, but in the end had resorted to killing some of them to save the people they were attacking. That would have made for a believable conflict between Helena and Bruce to justify their falling out, one that would have been more in line with their respective characters and wouldn't have made either of them come off looking quite as heartless and frankly unheroic as what the writers/editors actually went with.

But whatever, the point is that with Helena's looser stance on killing, it makes some amount of sense that she'd end up with Pettit after cutting ties with Bruce, at least temporarily. Eventually she'll realize that he's no good, but I guess that hasn't happened yet.

Anyway, Leslie agrees to let Pettit's injured officers into the camp if they leave their guns behind. They agree, and Huntress accompanies them and Dr. Thompkins while Pettit stays outside the camp with his health and armed men to hunt for Croc.

Once Helena realizes Dr. Thompkins has Zsasz there, though, she objects pretty vociferously.

It's one thing to endanger herself for her principles, but Thompkins is also endangering all of the other people there seeking her help. Also, yeah, comic Thomkins is kind of a downer.

Around this time Bruce and Cass show up, dropping off medical supplies they got from... somewhere, I don't know.

And there's their first meeting. And yeah, a justifiably cold greeting from Helena, though at lest she's not particularly mean or aggressive about it. It's Bruce she's angry at overall. The fist-bump as a hello for Cass is cute and on brand, and I like that we can kind of make out her facial expression despite the mask.

I like these handful of panels, with Helena shoving past Cass to confront Bruce. For one, we get a good sense of difference in size where Helena, a grown ass adult, is shown as clearly larger than teenage Cass, while Bruce towers over her in return. Its not just these three, there's also skinny fragile Dr. Thompkins, and various background figures in the crowd scenes. I have to give Eaglesham credit here - he knows how to give characters, including the female characters, different silhouettes and body shapes and facial features and body langue, and he effectively uses these differences to convey the characters' different personalities and emotional states. Like, Helena is annoyed at Cass, annoyed at how quickly she was replaced, but she's angry at Bruce, and Eaglesham really shows that in her facial expression.

We're here for Cass though, and I really like how she's drawn in that panel where Helena's pushing past her. Her proportions, the big head relative to her body size, the way her cape folds, etc. Between that and the offered fist bump panel, this doesn't just feel like Batgirl to me, it feels like Cass specifically.

As much as Bruce and Helena are on bad terms right now, Bruce is very much on her side when it comes to treating Zsasz at the clinic, and in particular when it comes to giving him a blood transfusion when donor blood is so hard to come by right now. Of course, there have been versions of Batman - versions I generally prefer - who would have taken Leslie's side on this, but NML Batman was a bit of a grumpy guss, so this isn't exactly out of character.

Pettit starts shooting at Croc, interrupting Bruce & Leslie's argument, and... I'm sorry, what the hell is with that panel of Cass's face there. Like, cheat and draw her face through the mask, or just draw the mask, either would be better than whatever that mushy mess is. And I was just talking you up, Eaglesham, what happened there?

On a more positive note, this bit where Cass asks Bruce through pantomime if Leslie is his mother is good. Very on brand, gets the idea across well, doesn't take ~too much~ more panel space than if she was able to just ask him in a word bubble. It's also a good example of Cass being empathetic to the people around her which is simultaneously one of her core character traits and in a sense also her super power.

Like, she's not at all the focus of this book, but so far both the writing and the art for her are pretty solid.

The distraction is fairly brief, and afterwords Bruce & Leslie's argument resumes, escalating to the point where Bruce is compelled to storm off and brood for a while.

As he goes, we get this interaction between him and Cass, where, on the positive side it's a continuation of the themes I liked before, the empathy, the communication through pantomime... and her face is a lot better in these panels than in that weird mushy one from before. But asking if Bruce is sad by tracing a big ole fake tear down her face with a finger is a bit hammy.

Of course, the moment Batman leaves everything goes to heck. Zsasz is up...

And Croc gets the drop on Pettit.

So Zsasz is threatening Dr. Thompkins and Cass & Helena rush up to help, but - and this isn't super clear from the art - but Helena goes to shoot Zsasz with her wrist-mounted crossbow. Yes, it's a gimmick weapon that looks like a toy, but her crossbow has absolutely been established as a lethal weapon in universe. Cass, whose 'no killing' policy is if anything even more strict than Bruce's, stops her from shooting Zsasz, which leads to a scuffle between Huntress and Batgirl, preventing either of them from intervening to help Dr. Thompkins. Which I guess explains why Cass being nearby doesn't just neutralize Zsasz as a threat, but it does make her and Helena both seem kind of dumb in the moment.

But making Cass and Helena hold the idiot ball for a bit must have been worth it in the writer's mind in order to give Leslie her Big Scene.

Believe it or not, Zsasz is unmoved.

Wont resist him with violence? What would you do if you weren't so morally upright, Leslie? Lightly open-hand slap him into submission? Like, if this scene could somehow happen in such a way where she actually had physical power over him, like if he was tied down and she had a scalpel or something, then the decision not to exercise that power might have some meaning, but the way this scene was set up it's not like there was anything she could do anyway. She's not even making a convincing appeal here.

By 'not resist him with violence' she means 'no resist him in any fashion what so ever' - not even physically stand in front of him to buy the people behind her a moment to run. Instead she literally curls up on the ground in the fetal position. Cartoon Dr. Thompkins was also a stanch pacifist whose moral convictions would have compelled her to help even a killer if they were in need, but she had more dignity than this.

Croc shows up to save Leslie while Cass and Helena are still busy bickering amongst themselves.

And afterwards Cass gives Leslie this super respectful bow like the reader is supposed to have been blown away by Leslie's great moral fortitude.

And Bruce gets over his big sulk just in time to catch Zsasz and drag him off to his secret prison, which is an absolutely normal thing to have.

...

So yeah, I got super sidetracked this time by how much I don't like the comic version of Dr. Thompkins, at least not the way she was portrayed at the time. But focusing specifically on Cass... they didn't do a bad job with her here, like, at all. She mostly looks cool. She's recognizably a teenager most of the time, instead of being drawn exactly the same as when Helena was in the costume. She's shown to be curious and empathetic and a bit stubborn and actually quite communicative despite being non-verbal. There's a bit of her individual personality showing through here even though there's like four or five other characters who are more central to the story being told than she is. I didn't really enjoy the issue overall, but I'm honestly pretty happy with Cass's portrayal in it specifically.

[leonrocha45]

Batwoman the drowned ...mi nuevo personaje de injustice 2

[batgirlgeek]

Funko Pop Collection

So I got this ask a while back from a mutual (aka @blackcat2907) and I mentioned in the tags that I could show off my funko pops so here I am! I started collecting them in middle school. They’re probably a money waster and will most likely be thrown away by future descendants but I like them🥰

I tried to get them all pictured together since they’re all scattered about my room but that didn’t happen bc I either misplaced some or they weren’t standing right (bc as we all know, Funkos can be finicky with if they want to stand properly on a given day).

My Harlequin Batman/Alfred Hitchcock/Darla/Lock/Mr. Rogers are usually on a shelf together since I don’t know where to put them and I’m not sure where most of them came from. I imagine Lock was purchased around the time when I was making my descendants fics (one of them featured Lock, Shock and Barrel’s Children) but idk for sure😅

From back -> front/left -> right we have:

Carmen Sandiego (she was my first)

Drowned Batman/-11 Batman (I haven’t actually read Death Metal but I really like the aesthetic of that AU Batman😅)

Regular Batman

Harlequin Batman

Darla from Shazam (I really liked the first live action—and the second—and I thought Darla was sweet❣️)

Alfred Hitchcock

Lock (nightmare before Christmas)

Mr. Rogers (I think I bought this when I saw the Tom Hanks’ biopic)

Eric + Ariel (I keep them with my fairytale retellings. I’m hoping to get a Cinderella figure at some point since

Batgirl

Pride month Robin (I usually buy my Funkos from retailers or Amazon but this one I got from funko’s official store since it came out during June last year shortly after Tim came out)

A bonus Dorian from D&D: Honor Among Thieves:

I enjoyed that movie a lot and I have a soft spot for tieflings so when I saw Hot Topic had the movie Funkos, I snagged her. I nearly forgot to include her since she’s usually sitting on a corner bookshelf behind my chair/desk. Since D&D is a roleplaying game, I’ve kept her with my game disks/switch & DS cartridges

The bombshells collection:

Left -> right:

Hawk girl

Supergirl

Batwoman

Poison Ivy

Catwoman

I’ve been trying to collect DC’s Bombshells line because I just love their 40s aesthetic a lot—I’d like to get the comic series also but I’m currently on a book buying ban to curb my physical TBR (there’s 58 books left if my Storygraph’s count is right).

And finally, my minis:

My mom got me this DC funko advent calendar for Christmas last year and it was very fun opening them all up since it gave me something to look forward to every day. Unfortunately, a lot of them were duds as there were so many duplicates (I suspect the company just retooled actual Funkos and didn’t bother to make new ones lol). Also the flash ones don’t stand unless they’re leaning against another mini. But I still think they’re cute so they’re displayed on their own shelf :)

I’ve never officially counted all my Funkos before but in total (excluding my advent calendar minis) we have 18. There’s a lot more I’d love to buy (including a Huntress funko) but at the moment all I can do is stare wistfully at an Amazon wishlist and I’m okay with that for now😅

(I’m sorry this took awhile BTW. I could lie and say I was busy but I really got sucked into the tv series White Collar of all things. It’s good, I’m on s4 <3)

By the way,, before you leave: if anybody is reading this and is collecting the deluxe editions of these dragon age books or knows where I can get copies for a reasonable price, I would appreciate it. They are very hard to find now since they’re technically out of print I think. I’m missing The Calling, The Stolen Throne and Last Flight. Might have to cave and buy them in their original editions which would be a shame bc I think these copies are gorgeous and have incredible art😅

[fernweh-s]

I wonder if there a fan edit timeline of just homelander becoming more n more unhinged. I’d totally watch that as a recap when the next season drops

Have you ever seen American Gods / Preacher / Legion. If so what ya think of them.

Just knowing it’ll be be made gets me excited cuz it’s like a little treat for future me. Idk when it’ll drop so maybe it’ll slip my mind untill they announce it n then I get double the excitement like omfg I remember when they were talkin about it n now it’s dropping.

Well of course he would batman and the joker have always been two side of the same coin so they had to make him the overpowered cliche n Barbatos was definitely way cooler. The BWL has cool design but not a fan of his story just very predictable even the brain switching like such a cliche terrible writing all to snuff Barbatos 🙄

N making constructs he should be able to make n tapping I to that darker dimension just A1 writing.

Same with Red Death homie strapped him on the Batmobile like a hood ornament n obliterated him 😮‍💨

Doombreaker shouldn’t even been in the line up tbh so unnecessary. They shoulda gone with something else.

Omfg your the first person I’ve met/come across to have heard of it let alone read it. You seem to have good taste so now I’m extra excited to start it.

You laugh now but I’m so serious, everytime I see shark related things irl I be whispering to myself Chichimatul

Lmaoooo I'm willing to bet that there is definitely one out there somewhere. 😂

I've seen both American Gods and Preacher! I loved Preacher; I really liked all the characters. American Gods was another of those 'its just okay' for me at the start; I initially wasn't really v attached to the characters (besides Mad Sweeney lmao, he was an INSTANT favorite), then by seasons 2&3 I was more invested and tHEN THEY WENT AND CANCELLED THE SHOW.

Lmao exactly! I'll probably honestly forget too by the time it finally drops, so it'll def be a treat for future me also. 😂😂

Yeah; I liked BwL's design (although personally, I would have preferred if he had Bruce's actual body type instead of basically looking like the Joker cosplaying as Batman, like, he's just supposed to be a Jokerized Bruce Wayne, so why was he so skinny and lanky like Joker??—I whipped up a little 'how I'd have preferred he look' concept before:

all the main elements of BwL, just [what I consider], to feel more Batman-y, and less, 'Joker playing dress up as Batman', lmao) and even his concept was a cool one—a Batman driven to Joker levels of madness? Heck yeah, sign me up, but DC definitely took the idea and made him more than what he should have been imo. Esp, again, when Barbatos was RIGHT there, being so much cooler!! Also, yeah, the brain switching was sUCH bad writing, especially since we ended up with basically TWO BwLs after! Since we have the original, now running around as 'Darkest Knight' after the ol' brain-switcheroo, and then when we had Batman use the Black Lantern ring to raise an army, BwL's original body was among the people he reanimated, and, despite NO LONGER HAVING A BRAIN ANYMORE it??? was still basically BwL somehow??? That was when I was just fully DONE with the whole event and like 'okay this is ridiculous, please wrap it up already' lmao. Like it went from such a cool concept to just, okay this is dragging out and just bad writing now.

Yesssss!!! His 'dark constructs' were honestly SO cool!!! I really that wish we'd had stories more of him, instead of BwL taking center stage and Dawnbreaker and the other Dark Knights basically being reduced to like, his lackeys (which was so dumb imo, like they're ALL Batman(/batwoman, in The Drowned case), they should have been more equal. 😤😤

For real!! The Batman who became Red Death doing what he did to the Flash was absolutely brutal. (And the fact that Barry was still present afterwards and basically trapped in there with him, constantly trying to get Bruce to come to his senses 😭😭).

HE REALLY SHOULDN'T HAVE!! Like, I get that they wanted a counterpart for everyone on the JL, but for Superman there really were SO many better choices to choose from who they could have combined with Batman!! I still maintain that a Cyborg Superman or a Metallo version would have been SO cool, but there're plenty others that would have been neat too: a Brainiac/Batman mash-up, or a Livewire or Silver Banshee one. Heck, even a version of Batman combined with Parasite would have worked and been cooler than what they gave us!

😆 I hope you enjoy it!!

Lmaooo. 😂😂

[vampire-robin]

Right, because making a deal with the devil is the better route 😒 As far as I’m concerned, that’s nothing more than a lousy excuse. You’re drowning in self pity and now you somehow think bringing them back will magically make everything better.

I’ve moved on, Vampire King. I have people I’d give my life for. I don’t need to continue on with self pity.

If you truly wish to redeem yourself, free the vampires you’ve enslaved. I’m sure Batwoman would help you on your endeavor. Protect every human survivor. Maybe help Superman find a way to feed that isn’t his family. More importantly, don’t do it to earn my forgiveness. Do it because it’s what you WANT to do. Because it’s the right thing. You may earn Gordon’s forgiveness.

He's going to make a deal with Klarion!

Great 🙄 He’s making a deal with the devil. He gets 0 pity points from me, 0 fucks from me and 10 stupidity points. Not even thinking about using the Lazarus Pit.