#astv jess

[human-space-heater]

incorrect quote generator (Spiderman: across the spider verse pt2 feat. spider noir, spider ham, and peni parker)

Miles : Fight me! Hobie , standing behind them and holding a knife: *mouths* Do not.

Gwen: Are you a masochist or a sadist? Pavitr , deadpan: I’m a Taurus.

Hobie : I have issues. Miguel : Finally, you admit it! The first step to redemption is accept- Hobie : With you.

Miles : *speaking Spanish* Gwen : I know, I know. Hobie: You speak Spanish? Gwen : No. I just know the phrase, 'this is all your fault' in every language Miles  speaks.

Gwen : Can I get a waffle? Jess and Miguel : *fighting and yelling at each other* Gwen : Can I p l e a s e get a waffle?

Pavir : *eating a cinnamon roll* Gwen: Cannibalism. Pavir : *confused chewing noises*

Spider noir : *holding a salt packet* It’s just a little sodium chloride. Peni : Actually Spider noir , it’s salt. Spider noir : That’s what I said, sodium chloride. Peni : Uh Spider noir , that would be salt. Peni : *takes salt packer from Spider noir * This is iodized table salt, which in addition to sodium chloride contains anti-caking agents and potassium iodate, which is added to prevent iodine deficiency. So not only are you being overly pretentious by insisting on using scientific terminology for everyday items, you are factually wrong. Your arrogance is your downfall, you annoying little shit.

Spider noir : If you water water, it grows. Peni Parker: ...What. Spider Ham : They've got a point.

[dailyunstableeve]

Here's some more HC about my spidersona, Eve/CloakWidow after and before her universe vanished (canon event)

#1

Peter B Parker's younger self actually looks like Eve's Peter. When she first met Peter B, she was stunned. Peter B was shocked by how Eve just walked in circles to observe him while MayDay thinks Eve was just playing circle games with Peter B.

After Peter B knows about Eve's story, he starts to interact with her more. Even in age Eve is younger than Peter B but she couldn't help it but to act like an older sister of Peter B and he doesn't seem to be bothered about it. Sometimes Eve would crash into the Peter B universe, even though she can't see her Peter living an actual life but seeing Peter B with MJ and Mayday actually gave her some kind of comfort.

#2

Well, Peter did mention about a dish from Aunt May that's Eve's favorite. During her free time at the HQ, she would raid the kitchen just to cook the dish but she just couldn't find the exact same taste as Aunt May's cooking so she would go find those SpiderMan and SpiderWomen who still have their Aunt May and ask about what kind of seasoning their Aunt May would put in their best dish. To this day, she still hasn't found the right taste yet.

#3

One time Eve was sent to Hobie's universe to capture an anomaly and also recruit Hobie. Slowly they become best friends, Eve would be the vocal of Hobie's music. Then Gwen appears, they become a band together. So far their band music rules all.

#4

Eve and Miguel went on missions together the most, because Eve joked about they are the emo gang because they lost/ruined a universe. Jess is mostly the backup because Miguel and Eve agreed on its best that Jess to take care of the baby even though Jess would beat them when they bring up the "you're pregnant, you should rest" kind of topic.

#5

Whenever Miguel is not in his office for hours, Eve would raid the office, using the network to watch other universes, just like watching movies. Her most favorite is earth-616 because it has so much drama going on.

Sometimes Miguel would return early and find what Eve was doing. At first he strongly disagreed with Eve's action but slowly he would leave some snacks on his desk so when Eve was watching it, she could have snacks. He would join sometimes too.

#6

When Eve first meets Pav, they have a small competition of who's mask is better and cooler because it's almost the same way of how it works.

When Pav jokes about her suit or her style of fashion, Eve would just attack him back with the "Chai Tea and Naan Bread" types of jokes. Hobie always enjoys watching them two argue and shake their hand and become best friends again.

#7

Eve has tried many types of hair dye after she graduated from highschool, at the end she sticks with red because it matches with her suit.

#8

Flash is a bully in Peter's life, but with Eve there, she would find a way to hang Flash upside down with any type of rope she can find and tell Flash to beg to get let go, and apologize to Peter. Of course, Flash didn't tell anyone because Eve always has her eyes on him and if he speaks a word of it, he'll probably never return to the school. Though, those are just words threatening but she never knew Flash would be easily scared.

#9

CloakWidow is actually having a secret affair with Black cat. Only CloakWidow knows who's Black cat is and Felicia doesn't know who's CloakWidow is. They don't do crimes together, they just love to hang out when the night is lonely, without anyone knowing. They would meet up twice a week on some spot of the city and just spend the night together, hanging out.

#10

Eve is actually banned to go to Insomniac spider man's universe because that universe of Felicia is hot (aren't she tho 😭) Miguel banned her to go because he knows Eve would try to hit on her.

#11

Other than Peter B annoying Miguel, Eve annoys him too. Miguel would just think they are just acting like siblings and just ignore them.

#12

After Eve's universe collapsed, there would be some nights where she would wake up from the nightmare of watching Peter dead in her arms.

Sometimes she would raid Miguel's office to watch some moment from her universe, and she would go over the codes, searching more for what if, her universe didn't collapse, how would her life be.

(Miguel's office is basically a cinema for Eve, and ofc, she only uses it when Miguel is out)

#13

When Eve, Gwen and Hobie visit Miles' universe, they would drop by Miles' house for Rio's cooking because Miles won't stop bragging about how good Rio's cooking is.

When Eve tasted Rio's cooking, she would hide her face on Hobie's back and just cry because it tasted 98% like her Aunt May's cooking which she has been trying to find for the whole time. The cooking and dish are totally different from what Aunt May usually cooks but the taste reminded her of Aunt May's cooking.

#14

Eve's pansexual-

I just feel like I should say it out, that's all (sweat)

#15

During Christmas, Eve would knit sweaters, scarves, gloves, and beanies for everyone. Once December arrives, she'll start working on it.

Let's just say, it took four years to collect the full set.

#16

One of Eve's favorite trolls is bringing Pav to a restaurant where they have the menu written "chai tea" instead of just "chai", "naan bread" instead of "naan" and she would tell Pav to order his own order which she would just watch Pav suffer ordering.

After it, she would apologize to Pav with her cooking and write an apology letter to him.

#17

Before Jess appears while Miguel and Eve are capturing Vulture, Eve and Gwen meet. Eve was caught off guard because Gwen reminded her of her best friend, her universe Gwen. Even though they both look totally different.

Her old habit to always look after Gwen.

#18

She loves lemon, or anything that's sour. No one can beat her for that.

#19

Eve and Miguel would have dinner together most of the days because at the end of the day, everyone would go back to their universe while only leaving Eve and Miguel at the HQ.

#20

Eve love giving hugs, she would ask if she could give a hug to anyone she passed by, whether they needed it or not. Peter B would return with a long hug (reason on #1)

Miguel would give back pat or head pat just to tell Eve to let him go.

Eve would hug Jess from the side because she's scared she will squish the baby.

When it's Miles and Hobie, Eve has to tip toe. Sometimes Hobie would swing Eve around just for fun and watch Eve getting dizzy.

Pav would squish Eve when she gives hugs. "Oh I love hugs!" ← something Pav would say.

Eve, Gwen and Peni would end up crying if they hug and always find comfort with each other.

I'm still trying to draw her istg-

[kombuuuu]

Omg I just saw that u write for atsv!! So I was wondering if u could do one with a female reader x hobie where the readers quite reserved to everyone in public (maybe she’d been a spidey longer so she’s lost more people? Idk why she’d be reserved bc I cannot write for shot lmao) and people think she’s super cold but then they like?? Walk in, and she’s like open and warm with Hobie (it doesn’t matter if she’s loud or not) and they kinda just look at the scene in shock like wtf and Pav is sort of smug bc he knew all along and then it comes out that they’re dating?

It Sounds Nice coming from You.

Hobie Brown x Fem!Spidey Reader

“I totally called it.” “Don’t even speak, Pavitr.”

kisses him cause he my bf (-compulsive liar)

People whispered about you. Spider people and the general public alike. Your city spreading gossip, rumours and misinformation to try and figure out who you were, but that was a Spiderwoman affair, every one of them dealt with it.

But having people same as you talk in hushed tones, glancing at you as you walked past. That’s a new kind of feeling.

The Spider Society didn’t exactly favour you, per se. There was nothing inherently wrong with you either, so no reason to get rid of you. But you were just so silent. No one knew a thing about you.

You mostly kept to yourself around base, never really trying too hard to make friends, you were well known enough not to be questioned. A loyal fighter was what you were recognised for, not your personality, your abilities.

There were still some people that managed to creep their way in though, their hearts so full of love, you didn’t know how to refuse them.

So you conceded. You let them in, and begged to any deity that would listen not to take them from you.

—

Hobie knew you as someone who could listen. Who understood him rather than challenged his beliefs. Not that he had any, but that was the point.

Your lack of input made him feel accepted in going on tangents of why he thought the way he did. And you just sat, and listened. A kind heart and an open mind.

Which eventually led to him falling for that kind heart. Tripping over his own feet to please your silent self. To get those small smiles or amused huffs out of you.

The occasional time you spoke to him, under hushed breaths and fond tones. God, he couldn’t take it.

The way your accent forms over each and every word, how your voice was akin to honey malt, sweet and addicting. Only giving him small doses, but he was the only one who got those doses. Only him, and you, and the words you spoke or times you listened.

He knows that people thought you were cold, or unloving. And maybe you were at first, maybe he thought you were. But he figured you out fast. Where you couldn’t talk, you could touch. Brushing your hands over his arm to get his attention. Linking your hand through his and dragging him away from people you don’t want to be near, he would smile down at you and follow along like a lost puppy. How your brows would crease a certain way, or nose would scrunch a little when you found distaste in things. He was a fool for you.

Where you lacked in verbal communication, you strived in every other category. So when some Spider-people decided to come to him, urging him for answers about you.

Telling him that he wasn’t sure you even wanted to be here—, Hobie would shut down the conversation quicker than thought to be possible. Giving a simple “She’s just quiet.”, and ditching the moment the words are out of his mouth.

It’d worked—, for a while. Ignoring the demeaning or conspiratorial comments made about you by spider-people a-kind. But eventually it got the better of him. Having him borderline snarl at the people who would talk shit right in front of his, or your, face.

“She’s silent, ain’t she?”

“Yeah. Peter 48 said she was like that ‘cause she killed her parents, made ‘er real quiet.”

“Jesus christ. Wouldn’t surprise me, she’s a freak.”

“Dude—“ One of the two spiders, the first one, turned to Hobie. Spider-senses ringing. Hobie stated back at them, deadpan and unblinking. “Don’t.”

The younger spider paled, quickly trying to backtrack.

“Hey— Hobie. I— Didn’t mean it. Was just repeating what I heard, ykno—“

“Cut it, mate.”

He squeaked, head tilting down in respect, the other spider following.

“Stop spreading shit rumours like ‘at. It ain’t fun when you’re the subject. ‘S it?”

“No.”

“Mm.”

Hobie walked past them smoothly, brushing shoulders with the kid just to scare him a little more. When he was far enough away, he heard them start to whisper to one another. “Fuck man, that was close. He could tell Miguel, and then we’d be out.”

“Jesus..”

He felt rather accomplished that day.

—

It was days later where you were brought up around him again. He’d been texting you, the upper half of his body hanging from Miguel’s platform, his wicks shifting every time he moved.

Miguel and Lyla were talking amongst themselves, clicking through holograms and sorting things out for potential anomalies.

Jess, Pavitr and Gwen had walked into the room chatting, Pav and Gwen expressing their excitement rather loudly.

He glanced up at them from his phone, you were still typing.

immm gonna b homein ten just be patient >:(

I’m patient 🦑

u werent 2 seconds ago

I don’t subscribe to consistency.

Or this slandering talk

ur consistently lame

also why squid

I’m never lame. Also, he’s cute

hes not real

Don’t do this me

reeeeeal tasty tho

What is wrong with you.

numnnum crunchhhh crrcchhh numnum ( > _ <)

Inhumane.

mmmmmm yummyyyy

He can’t die, he’s immortal

The ‘Texting’ bubble popped up on his screen.

“Hey, Hobie!”

Pavitr was running up to him, looking from his lowered position below the elevated platform.

He slipped further down the platform, slumping slowly as he greeted Pavitr upside down.

“Pav, my guy!”

Pavitr bounced on the balls of his feet, smiling wide at his friend.

“What’chu doing up there?”

His eyes darted to Miguel and Lyla, ending their conversation.

Smirking, he whispered to Hobie, “With the grump.”

Hobie snickered, gaining a disapproving look from Jess.

“Textin’ [Name].”

Just then, the next message from you showed.

immortal ??? how consistent of him to live

He grinned, typing back quickly while Pavitr eyed him knowingly.

He’s a squid, he’s more fluid than anything

ihu

terrivle joke

No, you don’t

And it was great

wtvr >:P

Hobie grabbed the ledge of the platform and swung down, landing softly in front of Pavitr and pocketed his phone.

“Glad ya ‘ere. Those two can’t keep it quiet, aye?” He said, pointing back towards Lyla and Miguel.

“They do argue very often.”

“Nah, Lyla don’t argue, mate. Just the hardass.”

Pavitr snorted and Hobie softly punched his stomach in jest, earning one from Pav to the chest, and starting a round of playful punching. Pavitr laughed as Hobie brought him into a headlock, scrunching his fist over the shorter man’s hair and rubbing it in.

They let up when they heard Lyla teasing Miguel for something again, giggling to each other at his expense.

He threw an arm over his fluffy haired friend and leaned his weight on him. Pav smiled up at him once more, brighter now. Before he could speak, Gwen’s voice echoed through the barren room.

“Same reason as you, I’m guessing.”

Hobie turned his head towards her, dropping himself off Pav and standing up straight again. Smiling at her as she reached him, and went in to hug her briefly. When they disconnected, he spoke again.

“Yeah—, No clue then, mini-punk.”

“Don’t call me that.”

“Neither big bad has said nothin’ to me yet.”

“Seriously, are we going to skip over that?”

“Maybe they’re waiting until [Name] is here!” Pavitr chimed in.

“What does mini-punk even mean!”

“Not exactly, Pavitr.”

Jess, who now was standing next to Miguel, spoke.

The trio turned to face the two elder spider-people.

“Huh?”

“We wanted to have a discussion with the three of you—.” Miguel put his hands on his hips, authority that Hobie only saw as a challenge emanating from his figure.

“—Away from [Name], she’s already been consulted.”

Hobies eyes narrowed, the atmosphere in the room suddenly shifting to something a lot less unfriendly, and a lot more cautious.

Jess caught wind of the younger man’s tense stature and shuffled forward a step, not unwilling to intervene.

“Nothing too bad, just—,” He paused for a moment, the dense light from the reflective floors making the contours of his face pop.

Hobie watched with batted breath, posture only slightly relaxing from the statement. The crease in his brows begging to be drawn, yet his pokerface was something to be beat.

“,—Addressing her.. lack of communication.”

A shiver raked down the brit’s body, physically restraining himself from chewing this man out with a rebuttal.

“Wha’ ‘bout it?”

His gruff voice was a stark indicator of his annoyance.

“Well, ignoring the rumours following her—,”

Hobie, the usually rather sensical man, was getting more agitated by the minute.

“,—We’ve noticed a certain independence that she holds. Something not many others do.”

The punk quirked a brow.

“So?” Gwen was the one to talk now.

“That doesn’t seem very serious, ‘f you ask me.” She laughed lightly, trying to lighten the mood. Something Pavitr seemed a tad scared to do. There was a lot of competition in the air right now, he wasn’t very competitive.

“Exactly, it’s not.”

Jess cut in, seeing how terribly Miguel started this conversation made her cringe.

“It’s not—, but,” She shook her head, hair falling prettily with every move. “,Her ‘independence’, has been more akin to ‘lack of teamwork’. In some cases.”

Gwen started to speak again, her eyebrows furrowed, just as Hobies now were. He was right about brewing with offence.

“So!—,” Jess cut her off before she could begin.

“So there’s no need for her to have distractions anymore. From now on, she will not be going on team missions. Just solo’s.”

“Wha—! You’re cutting her off?!”

“Gwen, it’s not like that.”

“Like hell it isnt! She’s a part of us!”

“Doesn’t this mean she’s going to be in more danger?” Pavitr spoke up, concerned.

“No— well, not unless—,”

“Unless!? You’ve gotta’ be kidding!” Gwen choked out.

“And what does ‘consulted’ mean! Did she agree to this?!—“

They continued to argue, Gwen and Pavitr advocating for your teamwork skills while Miguel and Jess had made up their mind.

“No communication,” He pinched the bridge of his nose “,Fuck off.” Hobie scoffed under his breath, turning to leave and storming out.

The voices of Miguel, Jess and his friends following him through the portal to you.

—

“You agreed to this?”

lIts not like they’re wrong, I just hold you all back.”

He huffed, exasperated. Not only were you putting yourself in danger, you were doing it alone. And letting some guy who has a borderline vendetta against teens be the call for it.

“Now, you know that’s not tr—“

His stern voice was cut off by the frown on your face quivering. A due sign of you nearing to cry.

“Oh, shit— C’mon dollface, c’mere.”

He sat down on your shared bed, scooting against the headboard and bringing you into his lap. A soothing hand ran over your back as you tried to reel in your embarrassment.

“I really didn’t mean to agree.”

Hobie sighed, pushing your head into his neck and watching how the rings adorning his fingers rose goosebumps in their path. “I know, sweet’eart.”

And he did know, the moment that it had been a meeting addressed solely with just Jess and Miguel, he knew that Peter had been excluded for a reason. That Miles had been sent after an anomaly as an unknowing distraction for Peter to chase after. He knew those two intimidated you. And the fear of parental disappointment was something they used on you—, young, sweet you. That only ever got hurt because she didn’t want her problems to hurt others, or herself.

You had opened up to him once. Told him what everyone twisted when they whispered sickening words. A story unlike the rumours crowding your reputation.

How no, you hadn’t killed your parents, or siblings, or whatever messed up thing people claimed of you.

You told him how you hadn’t been bitten yet. How, when your family was killed, you hadn’t had any powers. So you couldn’t save them. And it wasn’t even canon. Nothing could’ve stopped them from dying, but it didn’t have to happen. And that was the guilt that weighed on you. How no matter the hardships your parents put you through, a kid neglected of attention. You still would rather die a million times for them to live once.

And it’s all “would”, and never “can”.

Other spider-people don’t have to live with the fact their parents died for nothing. Was what you said. A messed up thought, no doubt. And one you felt guilty for. But the sole continuer of this sorrow-filled silence. Which has worked well enough to protect you so far, why is Hobie one to break that?

Because you love him, you guess.

His hands slid further down your back, resting on the curve of your waist in his lap.

His breathing soothed yours. The shuddering breaths you had been giving to stop your tears, also stopped.

“You wanna talk about your day instead, luv?”

“Yeah, thank you Hobie.”

“Love when you say my name, Babydoll. So pretty and sweet like that.”

Wrapping your hands around his lithe waist, you hummed. Beginning your recount of the day in the honeyed, reserved tone you’d always held.

—

Around half an hour had passed with Gwen arguing against Miguel before Peter showed up, Moles in tow.

“What’s all this about?” His slippers flopped when he walked and the baby carrier strapped to his chest shifted every time a sleeping MayDay squirmed to get comfortable.

“This—, This asshole!”

“Gwen.” Jess chastised her.

Gwen ignored it, pointing at Miguel accusingly. “—Kicked [Name] off the team!”

“Not kicked.”

“You said she wasn’t going with us anymore.”

Miles looked offended by the prospect. “Why?”

“She’s not kicked, she’s simply better off solo.”

“Oh, so it’s our fault then!”

“Gwendolyne.”

“All of you, stop.”

Peters voice ended the bickering, having learnt since fatherhood exactly how to use said voice. “We are not sending an 18 year old on solo mission against anomalies.”

“Since when did you have a say—“

“Miguel. You’re an idiot if you think i’m going to let that happen. That’s a kid.”

“She’s an adult.”

“When it’s convenient to you.”

Miguel pinched his nose bridge, growling under his breath. Jess spared a glance at him before wincing and backing down from the conversation.

“She doesn’t talk to people.”

“I’m sure she does, just not to you.” Gwen cut in.

“Yeah, her and Hobie talk a lot.” Miles prepped up on his toes. Pavitr smiled and hummed an agreement.

“Not that I’ve seen.”

Peter gave him another disapproving look. “Disregarding that. The fact you decided to not consult me on this decision is another reason that it’s not happening.”

“Consult? Like some council, please.” Miguel scoffed at him, rolling his eyes and turning to open a holographic tab.

“Yes, like some council. Someone’s gotta be the brains ‘round here.” The father joked, coddling MayDay as she cooed.

“I’m going to go inform [Name] the retraction of this decision.”

“Don’t you dare.”

“Oops too late, portals open.”

“Can I come with?” Miles jogged after Peter, hopping quickly through the portal, Peter, Gwen and Pavitr following. Not without Gwen flipping Miguel off as she went. “We’ll sort something out, she can go duos with Hobie.” Jess put a hand on his shoulder, watching as he stared off to where the portal had previously been with a sided expression before sighing.

“Yeah..”

“That went great.” Lyla dragged, popping up on Miguel’s shoulder.

“I’m a second away from shutting you off.”

The AI blew a raspberry at her companion, and disappeared.

—

He had went off on a tangent about some movie he saw, or song he’d heard. Hobie honestly couldn’t remember, he was too focused on you. The way your voice sounded, how open you were being with him when every now and then you would respond to him. The hearts in his eyes were probably from how heavy his own was beating. Staring at you like a sinner to a prophet.

You had moved down from his lap, now curled against his side, head leaning on his shoulder and hand resting on his chest. At some point, the movie you had been watching before Hobie showed up was unpaused, and serving as background noise for his quiet rambling.

Both of you pressed under a blanket to beat the cold, and the darkness outside your window being killed off by the lights strung across your room. He doesn’t think he’s ever felt this cozy, this utterly comfortable.

Sparks of colour strung out of nowhere, neither of them really seeing it at first, up until it spat out Miles. He stumbled forward a little and went to greet you before taking on the scene. You and Hobie cuddled up on a bed, blanket wrapped around you both, fire going, people singing. He was exaggerating the last parts, but it felt necessary for something so unexpected.

“Hey—, guys.” The awkward teen managed, before Peter walked through the portal with the other two in tow.

“Woah, no mean to interrupt.”

Peter put his hands up in surrender. Hobie snorted, it wasn’t like you were incapable of affection, It just seems he was the only one who got it.

“I totally called it.”

“Don’t even speak, Pavitr.”

He pouted, before giggling and waltzing over to sit next to the both of you. Flopping down on the bed and turning to watch the TV.

“Oh my god, I love this movie!”

“Favourite character?” You inquired. A collective raise of eyebrows was shown throughout the room.

Gwen shuffling over to sit down as well, a baffled look on her face.

“The horse.”

“Pff- Max?” Hobie snorted at Pav. Giving the still rather confused Miles - Peter duo a reassuring smile. And greeting Gwen with a fist bump, she smiled wearily at him before her smirk filled out and she punched his arm in congrats.

Pavitr nodded and laughed, gasping excitedly when the scene on the lake showed up. “Perfect timing.”

You glanced up at Hobie, Miles and Peter finding somewhere to sit as well, talking quietly amongst themselves.

He smiled at you, bringing you in closer while Pavitr sat smug.

The air of confusion slowly dissipated into something accepting, none but Pavitr had really expected you to be so.. Open. But they came to find they didn’t exactly mind it.

—

Everyone had left by now, the knowledge that you didn’t have to go on dangerous missions alone anymore leaving Hobie satisfied and you comforted.

“You doin’ right, babe?”

“Yeah, Hobes.”

You gripped his shirt a tad tighter and yawned, eyes drifting more shut as the minutes ticked down. “Wanna go t’ bed?”

“We’re in bed, dummy.”

He shot you a playful look.

“Don’ ge’ smart with me, young lady.”

You smiled at him before he made the decision to shuffle you both down in bed to get comfortable, switching off the lights by the outlet. He moved back to you, letting his whole body rest near yours, and letting you initiate any contact wanted.

A leg wrapped around his, and your arm still picking the fabric of his shirt.

“Sleep, sweethear’.”

“Mhmmph.”

Hobies breathe lulled you to sleep, white noise against your racing thoughts. He watched you fall, your trust in him to keep you safe was enough to make a man weak. He smiled, looking out your shared window at the city life below.

No crime, no anomaly or misshaped villain could possibly drag him away from you.

—

BAMBAMBAM 🦑‼️

[pandadrake]

I sketched this while I was drawing Miguel getting attacked by a horse because I realized that I only ever draw him looking unhappy.

First time I Drew a Jess.

(That's not Jess saying that. It's me.)

[sp1der-wid0w]

“we listen we don’t judge.” gladly.

miguel, peter b., and jess deserve equal hate

hear me out.

a lot of people are saying things like only miguel and peter b. deserve the hate but not jess and gwen, but i think they’re wrong. because only gwen doesn’t deserve the hate.

long story short, they are three irresponsible grown adult superheroes who have brought shame and disappointment to the other characters and the audience.

they are parents. one used to be, one currently is, and one is about to be. but you can tell they lost their parental instincts and responsibilities the second the hero mantle needs their attention. the miles situation really showed us who they are as people. a crashout, a hypocritical bystander, and a traitor.

miguel is literally the fourth spiderverse character (after kingpin, doc ock, and spot) to do more harm than good. spot is the reason why the multiverse is in danger, meanwhile miguel is the reason why the spiderverse is against miles. grown adults having resentment for a teenager they know nothing about. a scapegoat..

the attitude jess had for everyone, telling gwen to shut up, ignoring and eventually assaulting miles, telling peter b to shut up as well, rolling her eyes at hobie, and being sassy to ben. but when miguel is literally pressing gwen or literally being a menace to society, she’s standing her ass there and only giving puppy dog eyes from her cowardice. and peter b. was a big ass downgrade from itsv, because he used to not play about miles. he actually taught him things despite being an ass mentor.

but genuinely they both suck, there’s no in between. miles had to learn everything on his own, while gwen was being taught the more business instead of genuine kind-hearted type of hero. and sadly, the second miguel enters the picture, they were quick to let their protégé’s take the blame for their own safety.

if they’re not afraid to battle prowlers, or vultures, or doc ock’s variants.. why are they afraid to stand up to Miguel? why did a fucking 16 year old do something they were afraid to do? miles humbled them all.

honestly, i’m done. idgaf, we listen we don’t judge. miguel o’hara is such an asshole, peter b. is a bad father, and jess drew is a coon. bye <3

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~ Reader is a newer spider, who, after losing a fight against an anomaly that found its way into her universe, is consoled by her friends.

ASTV x Fem!Spider!Reader

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[robinthisbank]

Miguel was on something good if he thought he was gonna convince a 15 year old that his dad needed to die. Mf it takes a whole fight to even get a 15 year old in a shower

[autisticarach]

Title: let’s get one thing Straight

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“Just calm down,” Jessica snaps and it’s almost visible the way that Asa snaps, the way that he goes from being ready to talk everything out to absolutely losing his shit.

“Jessica Drew, I know on. Chaos’s word that you did not just tell me to calm down,” Asas murmurs, the sound activating every spider-sense in the area. Hobie winces, mumbles, “stay back, let ‘im loose it.” It’s Pav that tries to step forwards because he doesn’t know this tone, hasn’t been there for one of Asa’s absolute destructions.

The temperature in the room drops and the few pieces of Asa’s hair that’ve managed to escape today braid start to flicker upwards, almost like a fire, warning everyone around that the threat is here, that there is danger here. “Miguel sent gwen and Pav on their own to the fucking nineteen thirties, I have every right to lose my shit.”

Miguel sighs, pinching his nose, “I admit I ddidn’t think that through all the way but they’re quick, and good at close combat fighting. I needed them there.” Asa practically snarls. “No you did not.. Youu could have sent Diane, a grown fucking woman that can handle her shit better then two children, or me, or Maxie, chaos, you could have sent any of us that are not literal children that are barely sixteen. Fuck off with that shit Miguel.”

At Asa’s display Miguel hisses at him, to which Asa responds with a violent death rattle, a warning to tread very fucking lightly.

“I am taking the kids to infirmary and if there is a single scratch on them, I will fucking knife you. Estoy claro hijo?”

Miguel looks about to snap but the way that Asa snarls at him makes him think better of it and he nods.

“You know that he’s right

Miguel nods sharply, “oh I’m aware but they need to learn how to handle these missions.”

Jessica doesn’t say anything, and something tightens in her stomach

(Diane belongs to @the-cat-and-the-birdie)

[lemon2099]

How would you guys feel about a Jessica x Reader x MJ smut fic?

[ashdoesfandomarchieved]

full shade (lovingly) onto peter b because he fails as a mentor to miles in atsv along with the other adult role models, BUT there is just something so infuriating about jess calling him out on it when all she does is put gwen down for the entire movie

[moonssugar]

(sigh). let me preface this by saying i don’t defend jessica drew or miguel or peter b. parker for what they did and how they did so thats going to color what i think about them. before anyone starts shit, im black as well and i do not like jessica drew. i think people have valid reasons to dislike her that arent just chalked up to fandom racism. i also think the movie narrative wise wants audiences to criticize her, peter and miguel, but instead people fawn over miguel and ignore the crimes. its complicated but because all three of those characters are flawed their actions can be critiqued, yes that includes jessica

lets break some of this down starting with the last part

that’s why shes like I can’t help you - its like when youre a little kid acting bad as hell and ur mama is like 'iight wait till ur dad get home just wait’ and youre like 'FUCK’ because u didn’t listen to her and now have to deal with him

you know this actually rubbed me the wrong way for a lot of reasons. one reason is my belief that not only is miguel, the guy in charge of the whole spider society, is fundamentally wrong, projecting his mistakes onto miles and overall making spider society a negative environment. the second reason is parenting and since we’re talking about atsv, mentorship. see this example which is being used as an analogy here is actually a perfect example of bad parenting because — the child in question is living in fear of their father and the mother uses that fear to get the child to obey. the issue here is the use of power imbalance (parent over child) and the use of fear. i don’t believe children should be raised with fear or be afraid of their parents and that makes me anomaly in a lot of ways (see what i did there). the only reason this phrase works is because the child has an instilled fear of their father already but instead of addressing this mothers (and often black mothers, yes ive experienced this as a child) use it to their advantage. 

in the case of jessica whos going to be a mother eventually and was a mentor before that, she never questions why gwen should be and is afraid of miguel, ie she never questions why her boss has 15 year old children and hundreds or thousands of grown ass adults extremely afraid of him. she doesn’t question his violent behavior in much the same way mothers don’t question the father’s violent and intimidating behavior they just use it to control the child if we want to expand that analogy. she doesn’t question the position she’s in, she just either tries to shield gwen from it whiles its looming threat remains (and doesn’t shield miles at all but we’ll get to this in a second) or throw up her hands when “dad” gets home and says “i can’t help you” when shit finally hits the fan. “i can’t help you” meaning “i am not going to intervene” meaning “if miguel gets mad at you then its your problem” meaning “if i intervene i may suffer consequences myself”. she warns gwen...instead of questioning why she warns her and why she’s using it to keep gwen in line with what miguel envisions. she knows what will happen to gwen if she goes back to her own dimension and jessica uses that too. she never questions miguel if his methods or goal or means to an end are good or not. she seems perfectly content with this system. thats one my problems with jessica drew (and why alternatively i love hobie brown so much)

now, i am not ignoring the fact that jessica is pregnant and wants a future for her baby or that peter b. parker already has a mayday and wants to keep her safe from the danger miguel has described to them. i want to point out that miguel is using these to manipulate them into cooperating by implying that they will also loose their family like he did (ignoring the fact that she was never truly that 2099 miguel’s daughter in the first place but whatever). its a good, effective threat but we have to see that it is a threat and that is how miguel is holding everything together: through fear and collective trauma. a structure like that is bound to fall apart in the ugliest and most damaging of ways. jessica is a part of that structure, a quite integral part of it actually since she's so close to miguel. she plays her part and lets it continue.

second thing about why i dislike jessica: we’re all focused on how jessica interacts with gwen because she’s seen with gwen the most but nobody is talking about the fact that jessica willingly lead miles to miguel knowing what she already knows miguel thinks about him and that her shitty boss miguel o’hara physically assaulted — beat up — a black boy, almost killing him on a chase that not only jessica was a part of but fully endorsed and encouraged his friend (her trainee) to help with. a grown black woman allowed a young black boy to be physically assaulted, chased and entrapped on her watch without ever questioning if this was the right path, the right way to do things, morally right or ethically right. of all the characters she looks out for, jessica looks out for miles the least which is astonishing to me. again, shes just a black woman doing her job, right? she threw him under the bus with no hesitation and then did the same to gwen once miles escaped. jessica drew flaked not on just one teenager but two in the same day. this is the biggest and second reason i dislike jessica drew. because if i were in her position i would not tolerate that, miles being an "anomaly" or not, as a black person i would not allow it. i think the violence miles experiences at the climax of this movie is coded in a specific way and thats purposeful. when rio talked to her son, she meant people like miguel and jessica. unfortunately, just because miles has two things in common with jessica doesnt mean she wants to see him succeed. as the old saying goes...you know which one.

completely different rant beneath the cut because this is responding not to op but a reblog from them which got on my last nerve. dont read unless you want to be genuinely angry lol

minor thing: ive been reading tags that are saying “oh yall are just mad jessica wont defend the white girl or cater to the white girl” when the white girl in question is in danger of imprisonment if she returns home and also is a teenager. like what the fuck. im sorry, if jessica drew was actually a good mentor that still wouldnt make her a mammy stereotype but just say you think the idea nurturing black women are just mammies. an adult black mentor taking care of a white teenager trainee isnt what a fucking mammy is holy shit none of yall know what that stereotype is if youre saying that. honestly if thats all you see in jessica maybe the issue is with you actually. showing compassion and intervening with child abuse doesnt make you a mammy if youre a black woman while doing it holy fucking shit rant over

Y’all get mad at Jessica - the black Woman doing her job and trying to hold the multiverse together so her baby can have a universe to live in more than y’all blame Peter, the whites man who knew and trained Miles and still chose to believe he was an anomaly.

Like Peter TAUGHT Miles how to swing and he still was like ‘oh yeah miguel that makes sense yeah miles isn’t suppose to be spiderman’ HOW

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Miles older sister who takes care of him. She’s the one who knows when something is up and is the one always giving advice.

Miles older sister who had a hunch something was up with her lil brother but wasn’t sure what exactly until she caught him red handed. Him still on his suit in his room.

Miles older sister who had to take a minute to process that her little brother was fucking Spider-Man and understood why he didn’t tell her or their parents.

Miles older sister who becomes his girl behind the screen. She tells him whenever a villain is causing chaos and calls the cops to get the villain he apprehended.

Miles older sister who gets her brother out of suspicion and trouble with their parents, always having a convincing excuse.

“Mija, have you seen miles?”

“Oh, he went to the store to buy more ice cream cones since he ate mine.”

Miles older sister who never leaves her brother suffer by himself. Always hearing out whatever is bothering her brother and giving advice only an older sister could.

Miles older sister who gets caught up on the whole multiverse stuff by her little brother and learns of all the other spidermen her brother considers his friends.

Miles older sister who meets Peter B. Parker and Mayday and is immediately in love with her. She always counts on him to take care of Miles and is ok with babysitting Mayday.

Miles Older Sister who, when she meets Miguel, is not the friendliest. She’s not over how he treated her little brother and doesn’t hide it. She later on goes easier on him since she sees how he’s genuinely sorry and embarrassed by how he reacted.

Miles older sister who is a bit doubtful of Jess. She didn’t think someone who was a mother would’ve acted like she did towards a kid. She learns to trust her later on.

Miles older sister who meets the other spider kids closer to Miles age and immediately approves of them. She’s even willing to make sure they don’t get in trouble with their families.

Miles older sister who becomes an older sister to Pavitr, Gwen, and Peni. She listens to them and gives them advice like she does with Miles. She’d go insane if anything or anyone hurt her kids.

Miles older sister who meets Gwen and immediately likes her. She gives her advice on wooing her brother and getting the approval of their parents.

“Miles loves drawing so you can never go wrong with giving him stuff like drawing books and markers. Oh, and you should call our parents by our last name. Mom hates when kids call her Rio.”

“Wait, seriously? Why didn’t Miles tell me?”

“Cuz he was probably too whipped to tell you lmao”

Miles older sister who, when she meets Hobie, clicks with him in a different way than when she meet the others.

Miles older sister who gets flirted by Hobie and responds with flirting back, only to get caught by Miles and seeing his hilarious reaction.

“Seriously? My sister?!”

“Aye, calm down Peter Pan.”

“C’mon man! Why it gotta be my sister?”

“Miles relájate nene.”

“What do you mean relax?! If i hadn’t come in you probably would’ve been eating each others faces!”

“PFFT-“

Miles older sister who sneaks in Hobie through her window, having to shush him so her parents don’t hear them and have her father storming in.

Miles older sister who gets caught by Rio one day, with her and Hobie having been sitting on her bed talking about random things.

Miles older sister who has to introduce Hobie to her parents. Rio and Jeff are apprehensive at first, Hobies punk appearance not being what they expected for their daughters boyfriend.

Miles older sister who’s glad Hobie gets along with her mom and tries to be civil with her father and tries not to get into politics or fights with them.

“So, Hobie, what do you do for a living?”

“Kick fascists ass and play in my band.”

Just Miles having a nice and caring older sister <3

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[margokesses]

Alot of the astv jeesica drew hate is bc she's not fitting the mammy stereotype that some of yall have of her in yalls heads

"Jess was so mean to gwen!"

She literally wasn't. She was telling gwen like it is. Yall just made that Jess didn't hold Gwen's hand about it.

"How dare Jess tell gwen not to form connections with miles when she has her own man!"

Jess was looking out for gwen. Bc she (and gwen) knew what was gonna happen if miles got found out. Miles would be in trouble and gwen would be in trouble and have her heart broken. Jess was trying to prevent that.

Also ppl like to forget that Jess was the first person to vouch for gwen to be on the team and gave her second chances.

"How dare Jess side with miguel!"

Jess is just trying to protect her baby and husband and other loved ones. I get that Miguel's logic is flawed and it looks like she's gonna end up questioning it in the next movie.

Also funny how y'all talk shit about her but not spectacular spidey and the 100s of other spider-people on that team

[pinayelf-archive]

miguel isn't an inherently angry and aggressive man nor is he evil

he's grieving in astv and he's desperately grabbing onto his last modicum of control (what he believes will stop ppl from making the same mistake he did with gabriella's universe)

miguel has been bottling all of this in, possibly pushing all of this to the side by putting all his focus on controlling anomalies and finding people crashing through different universes because he seems like the type to find something to distract himself or find a way to "fix" a tragedy rather than sit down and process it

miles refusing to let his dad die made him snap because it threatens the one thing he's so obsessively preventing to happen again. he's projecting onto miles because he doesn't want what happened to him to happen to miles

he wasn't right in the way he went about it, he should not have put a kid through that at all. I'm not defending him at all - I'm just explaining why he went so crazy

and when he went insane its clear from how everyone reacts, Jess (his most trusted right hand woman), and Peter (a close friend who openly trusts him with his very young child) is shocked. they've clearly never seen him that way

in the deleted scene, when he's on a more typical call with the other spiderpeople he's snarky and sarcastic. there's banter. I can even argue that there's a bit of that in the beginning when him, Jess and gwen were trying to stop vulture

so no, I don't think he has anger issues. I don't think he's typically the kind of person to go and hurt children. he isn't incapable of love and he isn't evil. I don't think that is him at all

he's a traumatized guy who made a lot of bad choices and went about trying to fix things the wrong way