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So I didn’t realize this was gonna be a popular idea… but I have a few headcanons/fanons some taken from yours truly, others just spitballed🫡
•Both look out for the other. Maybe an occasional “you okay? You look like hell” most of the time just snickering when the other passes out before getting them some salt or electrolytes.
•I’m a firm believer that Ashley has made it a point to see how quickly she could pass out after standing or getting up. For the drama
•Andrew has probably passed out a few times, less proudly than Ashley. Likely disoriented and cranky afterwards (as most are).
•Speaking of… smoking can exacerbate symptoms like heart palpitations. I wouldn’t be surprised if that boy gives himself a mini-heart attack every now and then out of the blue then goes back to his habit like nothing happened.
Caffeine can also do that (ie; toxisoda)
•I feel like these two both could bedrot for hours at a time, especially with any level of fatigue.
•Migraines are also probably pretty common among those two. Along with brain fog. I know in my heart they both are just so lost sometimes.
•Maybe fevers too. After a while, you could be running a high temp, and literally dying and just be like 😐 okay
•Oversalting food to try and keep your body regulated? Making everyone say you’re a shite cook? You know they would.
•Ashley is one of those people to do party tricks with her hyper mobility, just to scare people. Like the weirdly flexible people who shouldn’t bend that way? Yeah, that’d be her.
Enjoy. I may have a few more eventually <3
I lied, put your clothes back on. I’m gonna talk about how the Graves siblings both developed long term chronic illnesses/health complications after quarantine and how it’s the perfect set up for more angst and drama.
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I’ve been following this blog ever since your first headcannons and I’m in love with your writing. I’ve been DYING for someone to request this but nobody has so I will! Could I request a Yandere Andrew with a willing fem reader? She’s just pretty chill and doesn’t mind Andrew’s possessive and yandere nature and is even willing to cut ties with people because she loves him and genuinely sees nothing wrong with it?
P.S I just love the Ashley and Gabriel ship! I think it’s adorable! I love Gabriel’s design and the pairing looks adorable together! I’m always looking on Tumblr multiple times a day to see if you’ve posted something new.
If you accept, please take your time and have fun! Thank you!
Anon- you are so sweet. Thanks dog <3
totallynotcryingtotallynotcrying—
Yandere!Andrew Graves x Willing Fem!Reader
You can’t remember the last time someone cared about you as much as Andrew did
Someone who would do the things he did just to protect you
Really you couldn’t be luckier
Most women would be terrified to see the dark silhouette of their partner standing outside their window late at night
Not you though, you know he was just making sure you were safe.
You waved to him once, and though it was difficult to see- he waved back
It was endearing how much Andrew cared about your safety
It was sweet how much he noticed about you
Small details that would go overlooked, like the shampoo you used- or the way you held yourself while conveying emotions. He noticed.
Andrew loved you. And you loved him.
“I’m just…worried.” Your friend’s voice felt like the vocal equivalent of chewing cardboard. If it wasn’t for the subject right now, you would’ve tuned her out ages ago. But this concerned you and your life, so you listened, “Like- he’s a stalker Y/N! Straight up stalker! What if he like- wears your skin like a jacket or something.”
“Hm.” You shrugged, “I’m sure he’d sew a lovely jacket then.” A small grin formed on the corners of your mouth as your friend gave an annoyed sigh.
“I’m being serious! He’s obsessed with you!”
“Boyfriends are supposed to be obsessed, aren’t they not?”
“No! Like weirdly obsessed!” You could hear the desperation in her voice, “Y/N, you don’t get it. I’ve been- I’ve been getting letters, voicemails, goddamn post it notes on my desk to stay away from you and they’re all from him. He broke into my house!”
Andrew….did all that?
“Oh my god…” you let out.
“Thank you!”
“Oh my god…he- really must not trust you then.”
“WHAT?!” You had to hold the phone away from your ear as your friend yelled into it.
You slowly brought it back to your ear, “Well- yeah? I mean- clearly he doesn’t trust you.”
“Clearly he’s insane!”
Alright- you had enough.
“Look,” you took a breath, trying to remain calm, “If you have a problem with my boyfriend- that’s fine. But I’m not going to sit here and listen to you insult him.”
“I’m not insulting him I’m—“
“Don’t call me again.” You said flatly, and not a second later hung up the phone.
You should feel awful. You should feel apologetic for what you said. You should consider your friend’s words..
But you didn’t.
It wasn’t like how they thought it was.
That friend, and any others who had something to say could fuck themselves over it
It was hard every time you had to do it
But Andrew- bless his soul- always comforted you
Hell, sometimes he even did it for you cause he knew how difficult they could be
He’s so sweet
Still would make them call, but you slowly blocked out the incessant sound of the phone’s ringing
When one of those conversations would bring you down, Andrew would be right there to lift your spirits
Andrew’s hands cupped your face, his thumbs trying to lift the corner of your mouth into a smile. The more he did it, the more it amused you- causing an actual smile to stay.
“There we go.” His head tilted a little as he gave you a small smile of his own, “Much better.”
“You’re a dork.” You buried your face into his chest, sighing happily as the familiar feeling of his hands stroking your hair.
“I’m your dork.” He hummed, “And I like your smile. So you better keep it, or I’ll carve it on to you.”
“Awwww, is that a promise?” You tilted your head up to look into his pale green eyes, your chin rested against his chest.
He nodded, “Mhm! Now C’mere.”
He leaned his head down, kissing you softly. You returned the kiss, reaching your arms up and wrapping them around his neck to hold him there. Not like he’d pull away, but as a measure for yourself more than anything.
For all the “warnings”
All the “concern” people gave your relationship with Andrew Graves
You didn’t care
You loved him
You loved his fucked up ways of affection
His twisted form of love
And he loved you back, tenfold
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The graves siblings in suits perhaps? 👀
Minors DNI || AGE IN BIO BYF || DO NOT REPOST
I’m having way too much fun drawing ashley and I can’t STAND her augh this was fun to draw
Something something formatting
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Digging Graves for your Morals; Or, The Ethical Problem of Outlawry
Hello, yes, I am here again. This one is shorter, I swear (it’s under four thousand words, even). If this is the first post from me you’re seeing, this is a follow-up to my prior essay posted here on the game The Coffin of Andy and Leyley, although it should be able to mostly stand alone.
At the end of my last essay, I touched on both the game’s nearly uncompromising moral scepticism and relativity, but I didn’t really dig into it. I outlined that the game only textually frames actions as ‘morally bad’ in the context of a morality set by the society and the world that has treated them as no better than farm animals raised for the slaughter. Well, I have a lot to say on the topic of ethics on the topic of The Coffin of Andy and Leyley, so buckle in, this one’s going to talk about the social contract, moral scepticism and everyone’s favourite topic: Mrs. Graves.
As usual, this was originally posted and formatted for on Sufficient Velocity and you can perhaps more easily read it there. Spoilers abound, and my content warning from last time still applies.
She’s not too hot on either ethics or her mother
The Meat of the Matter
Since a lot of this is optional or otherwise missable information, let’s review the premise the game gives us. If you’re already aware of all of this, I apologise, it won’t take long.
First off the bat, the quarantine at the start of the game was a hoax-driven money-making scheme of which you can pick up more-or-less all the relevant details of. This is entirely missable and by the time it’s possible to discover, our protagonists have better things to dwell on and have dialogue about, so I’ll give you a summary of what you can deduce from reading the notes and thinking about it.
The quarantine is an organ harvesting operation, as per some documents you can discover in the wardens’ office. They entrap the residents, test their blood types and starve to death those they deem surplus to requirements — alternatively the starvation itself could be their method of ‘preparing the harvest’, there’s evidence in both directions and it hardly matters — harvesting the organs of the others for sale. As our protagonists are AB-typed, the ‘universal recipient’ or ‘most selfish blood type’, they’re some of the first on the chopping block.
If you read through the newspapers and the documents in Mr. Washing Machine’s car, you can discover that ultimately ToxiSoda are responsible, and a similar thing is happening in a different city under the guise of a ‘chemical leak’. Should you further investigate matters, you will find mentions of the ‘man behind it all’, the doctor, or the Surgeon, as the fandom have been referring to him — you may recall Mrs. Graves mentioned someone similar! Yeah, he’s the guy who runs ToxiSoda, who are themselves partners with the water company that faked the parasite outbreak in the first place.
It’s all a life insurance scam, apparently
How much the details of the operation matter is something open to interpretation — it might just be something for players to figure out and Episode 3 will not cover the Surgeon at all, or he might play a major part; it's not particularly relevant to this essay. What matters is that it happened at all — indeed, it’s fairly easy to justify Ashley and Andrew in everything they did in Episode 1 (flashbacks aside), arguing that if they’d made any other decisions they’d have died — an argument that the victims dug their own graves, even if the Graves siblings put them in them. How correct that is is a matter of debate, but that you can make the argument at all matters, and we’ll be returning to this later. In my last essay (and again in the introduction here), I made an analogy to farm animals, raised without love and for slaughter. Let’s put a pin in the ‘for slaughter’ part for now and take a look at the ‘without love’ part.
That’s right, it’s time to meet the parents.
As Andrew notes, there are significantly more compelling reasons for you to say that
They Fuck You Up, Your Mum & Dad
They really do.
Our charming protagonists are, as with many things depicted in this game, an exaggerated, almost farcical example of this phenomenon — one that’s just grounded enough to still feel very real, just like the siblings themselves.
The late and lamentable Mrs. Graves is just the same: originally a teen mother, hopelessly out of depth with two difficult children — even if one was good at masking it — and an unreliable, emotionally unavailable (at least to their children) partner who can’t hold down a job, ends up foisting them off on each other and doing a Parental Negligence because she simply Cannot Cope. That’s the real part. The part where she gets paid off by an organ harvesting operation to leave them to die, that’s the borderline-farcical exaggeration that throws all the nooks and crannies of her character into sharp relief.
Mrs. Graves does not have a good relationship with either of her kids. Having self-admittedly fobbed the job of raising Ashley off on her son, to the degree that they did not even celebrate her birthday as kids, both of them hold differing degrees and types of resentment for her.
For Ashley, it’s hate — perhaps not quite so clear cut as that, as it’s her that calls for the eulogy and she shows some potential signs of discomfort while cleaning up her parents’ corpses, but by and large, it’s fairly simple and straightforward, as usual for Ashley. The sentiment is not exactly unreturned, either.
This brings Ashley’s heart great delight!
The most clear incident raising her from everyday ‘neglectful’ to ‘wow she wanted nothing to do with this kid’ is the optional ‘birthday cake’ scene, obtained by finding the present in Ashley’s first ‘transitory world’ dream, in which we see Ashley’s birthday and the founding of a lemon cupcake tradition between Leyley and Andy. She has received nothing from her family, notes that her ‘friends’ would say they were busy before she even told them the schedule and Andy takes her out to buy cupcakes with his pocket money.
This scene gets a callback in Andrew’s dream later. Just remember to Ask Nicely, rather than Kill Her.
Parents of the year, everyone.
So with Ashley it’s as straightforward and obvious as she herself is — she hates her mother, her mother hates her. With Andrew, as with Andrew himself, it’s a fair bit more complicated. His mother is a much more nuanced figure, who is believable in her role as an unfortunate teen parent who was trying her best. He has a degree of trust in her against, seemingly, his own good judgment In her conversation with Andrew, she acknowledges her fault in raising him and seemingly sincerely tries to offer him a ‘way out’, an olive branch.
I think many people have had relationships where they might say this
This scene in particular intrigues me, because she is acknowledging fault in a way that Andrew strictly avoids doing — and well, there’s nothing Andrew likes more than a good way to avoid acknowledging any fault of his own. With her dominant relationship over their father as a model for Andrew to draw comparisons to his own relationship with Ashley with, it’s no surprise that the narrative resonates with him to the point of ‘Accept’ being many people’s first completion.
Of course, that’s not all there is to it. There is a fascinating contrast with her later conversation with Ashley, where she — despite accusing Ashley of brainwashing Andrew — refers to Leyley and Andy as ‘two psychos’ and states that she always knew they were responsible for Nina’s death and that, implicitly, they owe her for not turning them in.
There's something about mother-daughter relationships here that I just do not have the time or reading to dig into, unfortunately.
Meanwhile, when Andrew interrogates her on her possession of their death certificates, she has… an interesting, plausible story about a life insurance scam and claims that she really did think they died in the fire, implicitly denying the claim that she sold them. It’s entirely possible that she’s describing the details of the ‘scam’ correctly — you can even buy that she genuinely does care for Andrew in some way, if not Ashley, but her claim about being an honest, grieving parent shocked at their deaths… doesn’t add up?
This is a very normal reaction to your supposedly dead children showing up in your house.
As Andrew himself notes after hearing her story, she’s full of shit. This gets into speculation, because there are a few ways to read this, but the most plausible ‘gist’ is that she and her partner were paid off in money and jobs to not raise a fuss — the surgeon she mentioned is almost certainly the founder of ToxiSoda, remember?
The overwhelming difference in presentation between how she speaks to Andrew and Ashley invites investigation — and when Andrew turns down her offer and tells her he isn’t interested in her offer in Decline, her reaction isn’t… despair, it’s shock — and well, there’s a good reason for that.
Why do you think she did it in the first place?
This is the happiest we see her
Well — it’s so she can finally fit into society. That white picket fence, that idyllic 1950s life — hell you can call it the American Dream. She wants that, or as close to it as she can get — the working-class teen mother, living in poverty, aspiring to the middle-class. It’s a very common, very real and very grounded motivation.
And to that end, she effectively sold off her children. It’s no wonder she can’t fathom why Andrew wouldn’t choose the same.
That’s the part that makes you think — just like the deaths in Episode 1, well- maybe the siblings are justified here, too. It’s a weaker argument, but it’s still one you can make under many common moral paradigms today — what goes around comes around, all that jazz. Just look at how awful she was to Ashley.
She’s finally found what she’s been striving for.
Here’s the thing, here’s the thing though — what, reasonably, could she have done? Andrew and Ashley briefly highlight this in conversation about Ashley’s ‘friends’ in Episode 1 — was she supposed to fight gunmen to try and break them out? Throw food to the balcony from four stories?
Moreover, as she herself says to Andrew… would anyone really have been able to do better than her in her position? She was seventeen when Ashley was born, living in poverty with a partner who couldn’t even remember Andrew’s name when he was a kid. Anyone would have had difficulty, let alone with these kids.
Her evils are — they’re not any deliberate action, but rather… prompted inaction. She didn’t have the emotional energy, resources or plain capability to properly parent her children, she didn’t have any solutions to their murder of Nina in a state so blatantly hostile to its underclass, she didn’t have a way to connect with Ashley and she took the money rather than fight a futile and likely suicidal battle against a corporation and its armed goons in a dystopian setting.
Ashley, notably, does not deny this.
Her sin is the one we’re all, I think, guilty of — that of not trying hard enough, that of inaction in the face of difficult tasks, of not standing up on principle because it’s just too much that day and you don’t have the spoons, you’ll do it tomorrow (no you won’t). It’s a petty, everyday kind of evil — that of not doing enough.
Is that enough to condemn her? Certainly, there’s a pretty manipulative read of her that likely has some truth to it — in the locked door in Ashley’s dream in ‘Decay’ you can discover that she has a ‘not-hatched’ tar soul — but consider that lens — the game won’t make up your mind for you, so you’ll need to choose that for yourself.
The dad is interesting in terms of negative space — but he’s mostly important in that he doesn’t matter, so I decided to not fit him in here. He has art, though — just no sprite, because, well, he’s never mattered to either sibling.
The Contract We Call Society
Right, it’s time to get a little bit Theoretical in here. Not much, but a little. Social contract theory is a complex topic with a lot of nuance, much of which I will be eliding in the name of not writing a twenty thousand word paper on semiotics, law, and anthropology, but the short analogy is… the idea that as long as you play by society’s rules, as long as you are a good citizen, a good person, the state, or the community, will take care of you.
In a number of ways, the harshest penalty levied by many historical states and legal codes was not death, but rather the criminal status of outlawry, a practice that’s cropped up a number of times in history — the practice of no longer being protected by the law. This meant one could be killed or worse with impunity — you were no longer protected by mob justice and, while overexaggerated as a term of reference, certain texts from Medieval England refer to outlaws as bearing a wolfshead, ‘for the wolf is a beast hated by all folk’. Never minding that wolves are actually delightful, this was a time when wolves were actively hunted and sold by people — and the same was intended to happen to outlaws. They were ‘fair targets’ as far as society was concerned, no longer to be treated as your fellow citizens.
This was the gravest punishment on the books, for most of these legal codes — something saved for those who had broken the social contract so completely that there could be no turning back (civil outlawry is… a bit different, that’s not the topic here). Among others, a modern critique of the concept is that it offers no incentive for improvement, no incentive to change or to cease harming society — if an outlaw has none of the social contract’s protections, what reason do they have to obey… any of the social contract? If that seems familiar, well, let me ask you this:
What if the state or community fails its end first? What responsibility does the innocent outlaw have to that contract?
It’s an interesting phrasing, that the world is better off.
It’s time to talk about the incest, and part of why it’s there. The cannibalism too, but that’s less impactful here. If you’ve seen me elsewhere, you might have seen me say that the incest is a load-bearing narrative pillar — in large part due to it being a critical facet of the siblings’ relationship, but in another large part due to it being an equally critical part of how the game uses taboo.
A taboo is in this context something that is considered repulsive and to be avoided by society. It’s a more complex term than that — you can also use it for certain sacred actions or utterances that are only permitted to certain people, for example — but that’s what it is here. Swearing, premarital sex, BDSM and murder are, approximately from weak to strong, some example taboos held in modern Anglospheric society.
Strong taboos are a staple of horror — they shock, they disgust, they draw people’s attention and it’s that last one that’s critical here. Incest is a very strong taboo — while I am absolutely not segueing into its historical context, the very well-established Westermarck effect gives it a certain timelessness and immunity to desensitisation that most other taboos don’t have — murder, to contrast, is a taboo we’re largely desensitised to in modern media and works of modern media have to put in actual work to make a murder seem horrifying — through atmosphere, cinematography, evocative prose etc.
And this is important because the use of taboo I’m covering in this essay is that the incest is used to invite judgment — it is so ingrained as a ‘wrong thing’ in people’s brains almost regardless of background that it forces the player to engage with the work morally. And that’s where the fun starts.
I’ve mentioned before, very briefly, about the juxtaposition of tone between the Burial & Decay endings, contrasting with the very monstrous difference in morality. Burial is remarkably light-hearted — they play around with the drain blockage, they joke about their mother’s personality and this is further exaggerated on the Love path, where Andrew is much more comfortable with casual contact and the two make a game out of how far they can throw their parents’ skulls, the humour is directly contrasted against their abhorrent actions.
I’ll be real Ashley is far more merciful than I, I’m shuddering at the thought of that gunk in my hair
In comparison, Decay is… bleak. I’ve seen it being referred to as being ‘emotionally sandblasted’ and, yeah I think that’s fair — it’s uncomfortable, it’s heavy and it’s just not fun. And this is the route in which, if you chose Trust into Accept, Andrew has bought into the narrative that his mother’s offered — that he can fit just fine into society if he wasn’t stuck, if not for Ashley — the route that ‘fits’ most closely to the social contract, to Andrew feeling the guilt that we think he should and hating the monsters that they’ve become, as the social contract deems them. Given the pains the game takes to attach the player to the protagonists, this normative moral ending is very easily interpreted as the bad ending.
And well, isn’t it?
Thing is, as mentioned above, the social contract has never held up its end for them. The game takes careful pains to point out to a viewer that they’ve never had the life that society promises people, so why do its moral standards apply?
The game invites you to judge the characters, and in the same motion, asks you from what principles you judge them, making a pretty good guess in that, like most people who haven’t spent a large amount of time navel-gazing and reading some very boring books by very dusty old men, they come from the society around you.
Love even has Ashley express this sentiment directly after the incestuous dream — she asks you — well, Andrew, but this is also something for the player to mull over — why this is what’s engaged your morality or sense of revulsion, rather than the desecration, cannibalism or murder.
Andrew and Ashley are both very funny and very fascinating in this scene.
And that’s the framing that it casts all of its own moral judgement in — even the ‘tar-soul’ aspect is… well, it’s unclear what it even means. Mrs. Graves was a ‘not-hatched’ tar soul, after all. Other than that, it’s society and the world being better off without them, rather than any kind of assertion of objective morality. Due to the present of ‘soul colour’, we’ll presumably see the game make some moral statements in Episode 3, but as it stands?
It’s nearly completely morally sceptical, in and of itself — it’s not interested in moral assertions or education, it’s interested in making you question your own morals. Deconstructive (not that kind), rather than dialectic, to be mildly pretentious.
It uses taboo and shock to invite moral judgement, but then uses tone, charm and our instinct to look for the happiest end for our blorbos to get you to recognise that these are principles you yourself brought into the game, rather than any it’s handed you.
To summarise: you’ve brought these principles in from society, but what do the siblings, the protagonists, the villains to the world, owe society? Enough that they should follow them? It failed them first, after all.
Closing Thoughts
This one is a bit less energetic than the last, tragically — my sleeping schedule is the stuff of nightmares recently, I love windy weather. Wait, no the opposite. Huge thank you to everyone who commented on the last one, you are the wind beneath my wings and the main reason I managed to get this out this week.
This essay is a bit more interpretative than my last one — certainly, there are alternative readings and I’ve been toying with the idea of deliberately taking a reading I don’t like very much and writing from that perspective as a demonstrative exercise recently — mostly that you shouldn’t just take my word for things!
Otherwise, if the last bit at the end seemed murky, I apologise — I did try to write a more detailed version, but firstly, it was three thousand words and secondly, I re-read it the next day and I could not understand what the fuck I was talking about. Personally, I blame Derrida — suffice to say that I strongly recommend playing through it with an eye towards considering culpability, morality and why you think certain characters are more or less forgivable than others, and for what deeds. See what you get out of it.
I managed to keep one particular thread open to wrap up with here — I try to keep speculation on Episode 3 content to a minimum in the main essays, but it should be fine here — you might have noticed that I refer to Episode 1 and Episode 2 being on something of a spectrum of justifiability, with the siblings’ actions being ‘more’ justifiable in Episode 1 and ‘less’ justifiable — but still justifiable if you try — in Episode 2.
To continue the thought of the happiest ending being the one in which they step the furthest away from common morality and to further jar the viewers’ sense of morality by contrasting societal morality and blorbo-oriented morality, Episode 3: Burial could continue this trend in having a major victim be someone who, well, has done nothing wrong and isn’t even guilty of bystander syndrome.
I wonder if there’s any good candidates, someone who’s sweet, harmless and will indisputably be an innocent victim…
…I’m sure she���ll be fine
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Andy
#Do you like my edit that I made in 7 minutes I made it with love#soleil asks#the coffin of andy and leyley#andrew graves#ashley graves#coffincest
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#im not good at meta dont ask me to explain i just thought of them reading that post#tcoaal#the coffin of andy and leyley
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andrew graves as a yandere in denial. no, he's not possessive, he just doesn't want you to talk to other men, or look at other men, or think about other men, or smell like other men, or know that other men exist... that's just normal relationship stuff, right?
[gender neutral] reader-insert, yandere andrew graves
very normal relationship stuff... according to ashley maybe, hehe! andrew knows that this is wrong, most relationships do not have one partner squander or keep the partner hidden away like a treasured gem. then again... none of the graves are normal.
andrew has a face to keep up in public. he's next to perfect; sociable, smart, charismatic. his possessiveness would be subtle at first, maybe a casual possessiveness? nobody wants their partner to be gawked at by others, they're off the market. you are his (you're also ashley's too, in her mind, even if she doesn't want you). his possessiveness is something that can't be played off forever. eventually you'll notice boys and guys from school ignoring you or outright avoiding you, and ashley seems to be more passive-aggressive than usual (compared to her usual aggression towards you).
your date nights with andrew aren't getting interrupted as much. it's just you and him now.
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coff-in
#cobweb in the coffin#the coffin of andy and leyley#tcoaal#the coffin of andy and leyley x reader#tcoaal x reader#andrew graves#yandere andrew#yandere andrew graves#sorry... im off my groove#it's been about... four-ish weeks since i last answered an ask#oof#my apologies
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I keep an eye on extremist spaces and I realized something: I don't think antis realize that they sound almost identical to kiwifarms. I was reading a thread about a streamer who played (and liked! oh no!) The Coffin of Andy and Leyley (the game with that 1 second long incest scene that's supposed to illustrate to the audience the horror of their codependency/enmeshment) and it went something like "she'll face the wall with the rest of the fags for normalizing and exposing this degeneracy to her audience."
Legit that's just an anti post with less fog covering up the puritanical sentiment lol. The only difference is that a kiwifarmer won't cowtip, but an anti will try to find their workplace to file a complaint after telling each of this chick's family members that she's an incest fetishist.
Their callout posts are genuinely just smaller, badly organized kiwifarms threads with less slurs.
👆👆👆👆
#mod erin#ask#just anti things#just asshole things#kiwifarms mention#coffin of andy and leyley mention#incest mention
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Ashley: "G-gently. Gently, goddammit!"
Andrew: *goes harder*
Plot twist: she was asking him to slow down because she cums super quick, not because it was painful lol
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What’s the best adventure you and Andy have been on?
Hmmm probably when we set off homemade fireworks during summer break one year. We just made the mistake of doing that indoors😗 still, I think it added to the adventure.
That, or our grocery shop runs. Those were always more fun when it was just us💕
And I’m so nice I included a picture for reference. Belongs in a museum, dontcha think?
#tcoaal#ask leyley#the coffin of andy and leyley#leyley graves#roleplay#andrew graves#ashley graves#andy and leyley#the adventures of andy and leyley#andy graves#ask me anything
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I got curious and looked up The Coffin of Andy and Leyley.
HOW ARE THERE PURITEENS WHINING ABOUT INCEST IN THIS FANDOM???
Nevermind the... literally everything else, since antis are inexplicably drawn to dark taboo breaking content as long as it's not sexual taboos. So ignore that...
But there is literal, official, IN THE GAME, art of Ashley sitting on Andrew's lap, lighting his cigarette, with his hand going up her shorts. And they really thought there wasn't anything going on there?
Antis brain dead confirmed???
Oh, even ignoring Chapter 2, you had official art posted by the creator while clearly referencing the incest like that one:
Like the first chapter alone couldn't scream 'they wanna fuck' harder without outright showing them fucking, which chapter 2 did.
Genuinely yes, them being brain dead is the only possible explanation for all that nonsense.
Thanks for the ask ^^
#the coffin of andy and leyley#andrew#ashley#coffincest#official art#thanks for the ask ^^#anti anti#anti nonsense
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I think it’s a testament to Nemlei’s skill as a story teller and artist that even people who hate the subject matter are so obsessed with the game. They keep interacting with it nonstop even though they’re fuming at the mouth from all the constant copium because the incest is an integral part of the game whether they admit it or not
I couldn't have said it better 👏👏
Anti's coping is always a fascinating thing. You can basically smell the self-deception in every one of their comments. Nemlei is a genius, of course, and this a HUGE ccomplishment (getting Antis obsessed with an incest game of all things!)
I've seen people say that the burial ending is a joke (because of incest), which makes no sense. We played the same game? I've seen others claim that the decay ending is the good ending, which convinced me that we indeed played different games.
Burial-incest is the happiest route, we see Ashley and Andrew at their best. No more 'toxic couple-like' fights, they really act like siblings, joking and playing (like when they trow their parents' bones into the river) and even Andrew's shock isn't that serious (Ashley doesn't get choked again).
Decay is a tragedy. No matter what you choose, they'll both die. I've seen people say that Decay is about Andrew breaking free from their abusive dynamic, but no, not really. Decay is about Andrew giving up, accepting that there's no way out, no way out but death. If Ashley has bullets but chooses not to shoot, he makes it clear that he'll follow her. They'll be together, in love or in a unmarked grave, no matter what.
and these are just some of the bizarre interpretations that happen when you cope so hard you basically distort your own memories of the game just to avoid breaking your illusion.
#tcoaal#the coffin of andy and leyley#andrew graves#ashley graves#andrew x ashley#coffincest#meta#ask#anon ask#anti anti#proship
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I have a request for a thing you could draw, but it requires some context. are you familiar with the folgers incest commercial?
MINORS DNI || Age in bio BYF|| DO NOT REPOST
No but I definitely am now (this is rushed I’m so sorry everyone)
#This is somehow both rushed and also took a while to make#sorry if it looks uncanny i traced it to save time#thank you again for the request miss spyderslut#tcoaal#ashley graves#the coffin of andy and leyley#the coffin of leyley and andy#andrew graves#leyley graves#andy graves#asks#spyderslut#silv animatics
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Did Andrew ever bake you lemon cupcakes for your birthday or did he just buy a pack every year?
He did once… it didn’t go so well. Andrew can’t bake for shit XD. He tried and almost burnt down our kitchen. Now he just buys them, says it’s safer . No matter! He’s my favorite lemon muffin anyway <3
#ashley tcoaal#ask the graves#leyley tcoaal#tcoaal ask#the coffin of andy and leyley#answered#ashley graves#ask ashley#send asks#the coffin of andy and leyley comic
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So um....can I get Yandere Andrea Graves (genderbent andrew)....please I'm desperat-
OH- an Andrea request??? Hell yeah I can do that!
TW: Yandere Behavior, Brief mentions of cigarette burns, assault, implied murder
Yandere!Andrea Graves x Reader
(Edit by Junkcoon on Reddit)
You love your girlfriend- really, truthfully you do
And she loves you too….maybe more than you love her
It’s such an intense, deep love that scares you sometimes
Purely because of how deep that love goes
The times she showed emotions, it was always so intense
Her adoration for you
Her detest for passersby who so much as looked at you wrong
Her panic attacks of fear when the nightmares hit
All- so intense for your usually quiet girlfriend
The panic attacks especially
She’d hold on to you, like you were going to float away. Her tears staining your shirt as she cried into your shoulder. Sometimes her nails would dig into your skin so hard it left marks
She was scared of losing you, and despite your reassurance that those fears would never come to fruition- she was still weary
Weary of everyone. Strangers walking by. Friends of yours from work or hobbies. Even your own family.
She’d glare at them like they were the scum of the earth
She loved you too much to let you get hurt
“Love…could we talk?”
The two of you had been cuddling on the couch, your head nestled against her chest as she idly smoked. It shocked you how used you got to the smell of cigarettes, in fact- you weirdly found it comforting. Your eyes blinked open as her mellow voice hit your eyes, your attention turned to your girlfriend.
Andrea was looking elsewhere, smoke wafting from the cancer stick she found oh-so comforting. You snuggled closer to her, nodding.
“Of course,” you loved her voice. It was so soothing, “What’d you want to talk about?”
Andrea paused before she sighed, “You know I love you? Right?”
Faintly, her voice cracked, almost like that question was too difficult to muster. You responded by wrapping your arms around her waist, nuzzling your cheek against her chest and sighing with content.
“Of course I do,” you replied so matter-of-factly, “With all my heart.”
In the corner of your eye, you saw her lips upturn into a small smile. Andrea leaned down, kissing the top of your head. Her black hair cascaded down and tickled your face, making you smile wider.
“And you’ve got a big heart doll,” her hand rested on your back, rubbing gentle circles against it. She then, with a somber tone, murmured, “…that’s what worries me, ya know?”
You perked up, opening your mouth to speak- but Andrea continued.
“You’re so sweet, so gentle, so…naive.” She looked away from you as her green eyes darkened with scorn, “Pricks of this dumpster fire of a world chew that up til it’s nothing but a husk they can’t have fun with anymore.”
“Andy..” you lifted your head from her chest, Andrea’s hand that had resided on your back cupping your cheek.
“I want you to know Y/N,” her eyes bore holes into your own, “I won’t ever let that happen.”
What would be considered such a comforting conversation, this had deeper undertones. There was a malice in Andrea’s voice that made you flinch. The way she held your face, it wasn’t comforting- no- this was possessive.
Possessive is a good way to describe Andrea
From small things to holding your hand in public
To putting her cigarettes out on your neck as a means of “marking” you
You’ve grown tolerant of the pain, even starting to like it
It’s almost like a kiss- a very twisted and morbid kiss
You used to scoff at Andrea’s concerns, chalking it up to paranoia
Keyword: used to
You held the pillow close to your person, breathing shakily with a panicked look in your one open eye. The other was swollen shut with a purplish red bruise. You had been on your way home when some assailant attempted to steal your stuff. You gave them more of a fight than anticipated, only getting away with 20 bucks from your wallet. Though, you didn’t get home unscathed.
The moment Andrea had seen that black eye, she was doting on you- asking several questions as she treated your bruise. Thankfully you hadn’t been stabbed or worse, but the experience still shook you up. Once you had calmed down, Andrea asked more questions about your mugger. What they looked like, where this happened, when did this happen- basic questions. After relaying the information, she said she would be back and left. You presumed to give this information to the police or- someone who could help….but it was getting late and you were worrying.
You missed her warm embrace. The smell of cigarettes that clung to her thick black sweater. Her comforting voice. Her beautiful green eyes. You wanted her to be with you so badly it ate you from the inside.
The sound of the door opening was like a starting gun to you, your body immediately flinging itself off of the couch and running to hug whoever came through that door. You practically sobbed as the smoke hit your nostrils and the warm sweater nestled against your cheek. Andrea slunk down to the ground, holding you as you sobbed. In your desperate state to feel the comfort she provided you with….you failed to notice the blood on her hands.
“It’s okay love…” she spoke in a hushed tone, “I’ve got you…..”
“No one will hurt you again.”
#‘why am i into this?’ was one of the many questions i asked myself while writing this#the coffin of andy and leyley#andrew graves#tcoaal#andrea graves#andrew graves x reader#andrea graves x reader#x reader#tw yandere#this was great!#genuinely did not think I would get an x Andrea request
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